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This thread is for discussion of action on the field before, during, and after Week 7 Monday Night Football between Dallas and the New York Giants. If we're lucky, Tiki Barber retirement talk will overwhelm T.O. talk.
Go Big BLUE!
Gerry is correct. Down with Dallas!
I don't know if I need to be more worried about the Giants' offensive line or defensive backs. They're my team, but they're not a comfortable team to root for.
Merriman to be suspended 4 games!
I'd like to thank Ronde Barber and Matt Bryant for making this game a bit more interesting.
Oddly enough, the Redskins will only be 2 games out of first place in the NFC East after the MNF game... close enough to stick with Brunell... although the offense might not agree with Gibb's decision.
I just hope I can get through the game before the number of... references to one of the Dallas WR's makes me want to end it all.
I just got back from work, and was gonna listen to the NFL game of my choice, on the NFL FieldPass service on NFL.com.
But for some reason only the early games are avilable to listen to in the games list.
Anyone out there use the FieldPass service, and if so, do you know how long I will have to wait before I can listen to the game on radio?
I don't want to see highlights, headlines, or anything, but it's getting late, and I on't know if I'll have to wait half-an-hour, or until tomorrow night at 10:00 or something.
My guess for tonight's celebrity interview- Mark Cuban at 8:22 of the 2nd quarter. This will give them a chance to hype the NBA on ESPN.
My guess for Kornheiser's "fantasy team" reference:
4:25 left in the 1st quarter
The tastefully named Pat Kirwan's excellent writeup of tonight's game is linked on my name.
Okay, who's with me on this?
TO needs a fan club. I'll take one for the team and be the charter member. I mean, the man is very nearly the GoaT. He's unstoppable, if they'd just throw him the damn ball. The Cowboys aren't using him properly. I mean, come on, they didn't start throwing to him until the second half last week.
Erm, I think we're losing sight of the real issue here, which is 'What are we gonna call ourselves?' Erm, and I think it comes down to a choice between 'The League Against Inept Quartebacks' or my own personal preference, which is 'The Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrell Owens and the Resulting Increased Scoring'.
Erm, one drawback with that...
(It's obscure reference day, btw)
Wonder what Kornheiser will be wearing tonight? Maybe another trenchcoat/jacket with some lovely gloves?!...
For tonight's celebrity interview, I'm rooting for Drew Rosenhaus and/or Kim Etheridge. Because otherwise, we won't hear enough about TO. Has anyone in sports history been as underhyped as TO? Why doesn't ESPN provide more coverage of TO?
I was going to predict a satelite interview with Ronde Barber (Tiki's twin brother, he had a huge game yesterday, yatta yatta yatta)......but thats to closely related to football.
So with that being said:
I have no clue.
I haven't turned on countdown yet but my brother just im'd me and said that Michael Irvin just said that "Tiki Barber is quitting on his football team."
Did he really say that?
Actually, they'd be 2.5 games out of first place. Washington has 5 losses.
Bill Simmons think Cuban interview is very likely. I was doing the Monday Night Surround thing on ESPN.com, and that was one of the things under Simmons' section. O/U .5 times Cuban comes on.
Hey, this is clearly not the right thread, but I don't know where one is and it's as close as I can find here, so who's seen the early injury line for Indy/Denver next week: Matt Lepsis and Mike Doss both out for the season with ACL tears.
So just as Denver's run game and pass pro are weakened, so are Indy's tackling, coverage, and DB depth. Doss was their top draft pick a couple years ago. The game could end up being a 3-3 game. Or Indy could score 20 because of the short-field gifts from Denver's O. I don't quite see Denver scoring 20 back, though.... Indy's D has been in disarray all season with injuries, so this is probably a bigger blow to Denver, reducing their expected per-game point totals from 12.5 to 11.0. (yes, that was a numerically random attempt at a joke).
Gibril Wilson will start, Carlos Emmons is not back yet.
Boo stupid, annoying cross-promotion.
I'm all over the C.L.I.T.O.R.I.S.
Good Jay and Silent Bob reference, BTW...
Actually the reference predates Jay and Silent Bob, I think... and is slightly less well known, unless you're fond of PBS pledge drives...
Can we get LT in the booth? I wanna hear Tony K. talk about the new Blitz game, and I want to hear Theismann cry.
IRC chat open, as usual, in channel #FO on server bendenweyr.dyndns.org.
Did Joe just say that Dallas had the #1 defense after beating the #2 defense last week? WTF stat page did he pull that from?
He said the Giants faced the #1 defense last week (Atlanta), rated by total yards. However, more signficantly, Dallas has the #2 rated rush defense according to DVOA.
LT might be a booth guest. Seems reasonable.
And did anyone catch THeisman refer to MIke Tirico as "John?"
WHO THE HELL IS JOHN?!!?!?
Hmm, I suppose it would help if I ever looked at the defense ranks in their split up types.
Can we please start the game and leave these devil references and pregame pyrotechnics behind?
That was just sick.
Did Burress just do the star?
Wow, what a great play by Burress, just blows past the safety.
Nice pick by the ref, too.
#32: Assuming of course, by 'blows past' you mean: "Uses the referee as a perfect pick" then, yes.
Cmon, bomb to TO!
Hey, producers - can we get a camera shot of the ref taking out the safety? That sounds kind of important.
Question about TiVo:
I've never used it, but is there a way to actually delay the TV signal by a few seconds? That'd be awesome here, because the radio announcers are so much better than the TV guys.
You love to hype guys as THE GREATEST AROUND. Well how about this? YOU'RE THE WORST ANNOUNCER OF ALL-TIME!
Masocc, I meant the other safety, the one who was trying to cover him, not Williams, coming as help from the other side.
Ok, I'm sick of hearing this "You don't have many plays in your playbook that get you 15 yards".
What? Of course you do. Sure, not high percentage plays... but certainly higher percentage than a pass to the flat, or a draw.
#37 - just pause it, then unpause it. Just keep doing it until you get the timing right.
If Theissman thinks that NFL teams don't have many plays in the book that get 14 yards, he's been watching too many Redskins games.
Well Johnny, the other safety was actually ahead of Plax too... but on the outside (i.e. bad position), and the pass, while pretty, was a touch underthrown (which actually made it easier for Plax to win the jump ball).
JasonK, it's not just Theismann. I've heard that same phrase at least two other times this weekend.
Oh, I've heard the cliche before. I just like mocking the Redskins' offense.
Yeah, but that's just unfair, Jason. The Redskins have at least 42 pages worth of plays designed to gain 14 or more yards. I think the problem is they can't find them when needed. Al Saunders, offensive genius, Indexing simpleton.
I hate reviews on these plays. The call is so arbitrary, and it almost always stands.
Paul Maguire loves to use the "YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ANY PLAYS FOR THIS SITUATION" line......
He used it atleast 2 times in the college game he did on Saturday......
Kornheiser admits it!
Sounds like someone explained to Theismann what an "open palm" means during the break.
Horsecollar much? Damn.
Is Roy Williams ever going to get called for a horsecollar?
The horse collar rule is a joke.
Wasn't that the textbook definition of a horsecollar tackle?
I don't think the Giants have completed a single pass out of the 5-wide formation all year. Why do they keep doing it?
So the guy that caused the rule change to make horsecollar tackles a penalty commits the most blatant and obvious horsecollar, to the point where his hand was actually stuck in the shoulder pads, and there is no flag?
Ref bias ftw.
Nice shot of Luke Petitgout utterly forgetting to block the pass rusher.
Roy Williams with the uncalled horsecollar, and the football gods chortled. "Let the punt downed at the 1 inch line"
Am I missing something with how a punt is downed? How does the ref, standing right there, mis-spot that ball? Or is it where the downer's feet are when he picks it up?
Ironically, horse collars were designed to keep horses from being strangled by their harness. Go figure.
Masocc: Congrats on the Red Dwarf reference...
YAY!!!! Voltron strikes!
Quite the blitz pickup there.
Lavar Arrington sighting!
Wow. An actual correct use for Arrington. Go safety.
A large part of the credit for that has to go to Feagles & Tyree for getting that punt downed at the 6-inch line.
I don't know guys, i'm not buying what that man law is selling.
I enjoy the occasional blue moon.
Does this make me any less of a man?
I mean, I have no problem taking on that wrestling looking dude.
Favreian read on that pass.
Poor play call. Triple coverage? Eli's accuracy is, shall we say, not a strength.
Yes, because ROMO-Quarterback will fend the unblocked defensemen off with lasers shooting from his eyes.
Am I in bizarro world? Joe T is making sense re: Bledsoe and Kornheiser is the one who needs his idiocy pointed out rudely.
Adam - Never heard of a blue moon. I just thought they were saying "Corona is for pussies".
I agree with Sunny Joe Theisman on the QB controversy. Now I feel dirty.
Hey, the announcers get one right!
Fleaflicker to Bledsoe = concussion waiting to happen
Because the way to help a lead-footed QB is with a trick pass play that takes forever to develop.
mmm LaVar hype
Don't they put orange slices in blue moon, not lemon wedges?
"Motion here". Yeah, Understatement. Witten was 10 yards downfield, lol.
I actually think Blue Moon is made by Coors, but you drink it with an orange slice.
I generally don't like the mass produced "american beers" but the occasional blue moon is a solid drink.
Have the Cowboys had a play WITHOUT at least one Giant quickly into the backfield yet? Hell, the punter even got killed there, as his blocker (what do you call that guy anyway?) was creamed into him after the kick.
Whoever is doing the play-by-play for NFL.com ROCKS. They're including the pass patterns receivers are running and sometimes saying precisely how deep incomplete passes are.
Ah well. That kind of gut-stomping wasn't likely to continue. But it's nice to have a lead for once. Let's go Giants!
And the Tiki Barber HOF-machine begins.
Madden-esque deep pass completion to Burress
That was the best deep ball I've seen Eli throw all season. Most of his other deep balls this season have been underthrown, counting on the receivers to adjust. He hit Plax in stride there.
Nice graphic on Manning's completion percentages.
No one is going to agree with me on this, but I hate it when the officials don't throw flags when there's jawing and shoving on the field. I don't care if they don't know who did it originally. Throw two flags, and have them offset. Let the guys know that if they just sit there and get shoved around by their opponent, their team will get 15 yards.
That had to have been a broken play. Barber and Finn tried to run the same pattern.
Yes, that pass was incomplete because of "Roy Williams. Pro Bowler," and not because the pass was high and behind Shockey.
#32: Assuming of course, by â€˜blows pastâ€™ you mean: â€œUses the referee as a perfect pickâ€? then, yes.
Hey, perfectly legal. Refs are part of the field. I'm always surprised more teams don't do this.
It couldn't possibly be Eli Manning, Lord of the Universe.
Speaking of Madden and Burress, my wife's playbook in Madden 2004 consisted of one play: Burress go long. Sure it had about 5 flavors based on who else was on the field and what they did, but it was still all the same play. Averages were something like 10 catches, 300+ yards, and a broken tackle per game. Definitely not a simulation.
I bet Theismann didn't know his team had a play for getting their quarterback's leg broken, either...
Hank Williams can talk?
Oh boy, Hank Williams Jr. in the booth! I can hardly wait.
Hank Williams is the answer. Hank Williams.
Please tell me they misspoke and Hank III is going into the booth.
Hmmm ... this might be a good time to hit the mute button on the remote ...
I can't be the only one watching this game just to watch Bledsoe get sacked
Throw the ball away? No? I guess that works, too.
Aaaaaand right back to floor, Drew.
Flag Strahan for excessive celebration. Do it!
Way to quadruple clutch there, Drew.
Smithers are they booing me?
No sir, they're saying booooourns.
Attention, ARE YOU BOOING OR BOOOOURNSING?
*pummelled by garbage*
I WAS SAYING BOOURNS!
"In the grasp" now that is dumb.
Refs blew the whistle a bit early on that one.
Please tell me Joe THeisman is kidding.
Cheap sack on Bledsoe.
I'm down by about 25 points in my fantasy league this week, and I need Witten and the Dallas defense to win it for me. I'm nonplussed, to say the least.
I liked the decision by the refs, good call
THAT was some BS, though. That looked too early to be called a dead play. What are the rules in relation to that kind of thing?
Could the Giants D get thru one play without some post-play celebration .... geez guys just do your job ...
Saw the "in the grasp" call a couple weeks ago that negated a fumble. Can't say I remember who it was.
Chargers vs. Roethlisberger
Why the hell is Theismans wearing a cowboy hat?
Time of possession so far:
"I like to play all kinds of music." So when can we expect your rap album, Hank?
Wow. Bad throw right to the pushed-off defender.
PERFECT CAMERA WORK!
Burress walking past clapping, right into the shot as the ref calls the flag on him.
Ha! Plax just threw him into the pick. They should show that to every youth league football player--cheating sucks.
So, instead of continuing towards where the pass will land, you push off the defender so you can stop and try and jump to catch it? Weird.
Weak PI call. Neither player made significant contact.
I could see Hank and Kid Rock getting together to record ...
That said, it's also a dumb playcall and a poor pass. The defender had outside position, and Eli put it over the wrong shoulder.
Re: #10 I want to be Minister of Propaganda and Defender of the Rights of Our Most Gracious Lord Host and Muse.
What will Voltron do without the Red Lion?
124 - Well, unless announcers have steered me wrong, you're supposed to catch the ball "at it's highest point", right? :)
I'm guessing they filmed that Grossman/Muhammad Pro Bowl spot before last Monday.
I'm no rap afficiando, but this JayZ song we've been treated to the last two weeks does not strike me as the most demanding rap out there
Looks like he hurt his ankle/foot/achilles. Surprised it wasn't the knee; that's where he's had most of the problems in the past.
Wow. PI on the defense?
It is interesting to look at the way the Cowboys have constructed their roster. Heavy emphasis on the defense in drafting, and heavy emphasis on older free agents on offense, especially at qurterbacks and wr. They've clearly chosen to just try to get by on the offensive line, although they did invest in Rivera. Obviously the result has been ugly. Parcells biggest error was thinking that Bledsoe could be o.k without a good offensive line, and Jerry Jones biggest error was thinking that Terrell Owens would be the best thing to devote cap room to.
I think this team would be a lot better if the cap room devoted to Bledsoe and Owens was instead being used on, say, Brad Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson, and whatever offensive linemen could be signed with the cash left over. If you are going to settle for an old, immobile qb, you may as well get one cheap, especially is he makes decisions more quickly.
Great play by Pierce. With how the Giants LBs were backpedaling at the snap, I thought that run would go for 15, at least.
"The guy's a physical receiver" = "allowed to push off."
I think they cut out a bunch of the lyrics, but the best description of that video I've read is, "rich people doing rich people things."
that describes most rap videos, though it didn't have enough misogyny and guns ...
RE# 126: I'm not watching the game, so this may be stupid to say, but they have, in fact, recorded at least one song together.
135-In the media, they call it "getting Parcell's guys."
"Drew Bledsoe showing you his mobility."
- Joe Theisman.
words I never thought I'd hear: "Drew Bledsoe, showing his mobility."
Ooh, nice hit on TO. Even better that he was already OOB.
#135: With what's going on in Seattle, Arizona and Dallas, the lesson of 2006 seems to be that Offensive Lines Are Very Important.
I don't know why we all needed to learn that, but there it is.
Re: #139 They also missed the requisite references to "Scarface."
Ok, that one actually was PI
So the anti-Houston pushoff play doesn't work, and they get a cheap PI. Wonderful.
that's drew in the red zone ...
that's drew in the spotlight ..
losing his mobility ...
His "physical size"? I'm sure Theismann had to make that distinction.
Oooooh, not sure that's a TD.
Why is it that the one time Tirico actually says something besides the play by play it's wrong and retarded and yet he says it 40 times? Yes, the Giants took a shot on 3rd and short with a low int probability pass, got the coverage they wanted and Burress read it wrong. It happens. That is no excuse for letting the Cowboys go 80 yards.
Oooooh, not sure thatâ€™s a TD.
Who cares? What do you gain? Second and goal from the one inch line? Why would anyone in their right mind challenge that?
RE 151, It's Theisman showing his "mental size".
Man, there are about eight things going on right now.
can you say "momentum shift"
Tiki better lie there a little longer...
Though that looked like a nasty blow to the head.
I didn't know my stomach could drop that far that fast. I hope Tiki's OK...
#135, I understand a coach wanting to get guys he has familiarity with, and I think there is some validity to the approach. The coach, however, should be very sensitive to how much "his guys" cost, both in terms of cap percentage, and in terms of the opportunity cost of young, inexpensive, players bypassed.
Cap adjusted DPAR might be an interesting way of looking at things.
I'm not saying you challenge it, I'm just saying.
Okay, what's going to be more annoying tonight? The Tiki retirement talk or the TO/Parcells/Bledsoe odd couple talk?
I'd really love a Bledsoe INT returned for a TD here
#149. Funny ! :-)
Is it too early to make "he was this close to retirement" jokes?
I would shit a brick if Mike Tirico said, "It looks like Mr. Moe Mentum may be changing his address."
A brick I tell you.
Eh, I'll take it
Oh that whacky Drew.
There you are Drew. Nice.
Bledsoe was lucky that wasn't a touchdown the other way.
Huzzah! "Mental mistakes are unacceptable" Drew. Excellent point sir.
Can we start a petition to have the announcers use last names?
O.K., that pass was as bad as anything Grossman threw last week. Maybe this Romo talk isn't so crazy.
"I don't know how many foots you have to have in."
- Joe Theisman
"Me fail english? Thats unpossible."
- Ralph Wiggum
Nick Nolte's going to take a really close look at Bledsoe's interception late in the second quarter.
Lito Sheppard > Sam Madison
Adam .... I think I love you :-)
Hey Adam, do you think Jerry Jones will ask his GM to obtain Staubach's non-union Mexican equivalent?
Theismann really needs to stop sounding reasonable.
Is it just me or has Tony Kornheiser been extremely quiet in the 2nd quarter?
Best argument for Barber in the HOF (which I don't agree with): his excellent y.p.c.
Best argument against: he spent most of his career as a fumble machine.
Nice to see Rayfield Wright getting his due this year, about 20 years late.
Tony is auditioning for Hank's next album ...
By the way, why is a defender allowed to hit a ball carrier in the face to tackle him? This isn't dangerous?
re #179. Don't jinx it.
Every time they talk about Barber retiring they mention Brown and Sanders.... but never see Robert Smith brought up.
Ooo, dangerous pass Eli...
Tha was the worst pursuit angle I've seen this year. I've seen beter efforts by punters and kickers.
184: Robert Smith isn't in the HOF, nor should he be.
Who is this play-by-play guy? He is awesome.
"Beat a dead horse to death"-Michael Irvin. Gentleman, scholar, poet.
Poor half for both offenses. Burress has 2 big catches, but is also at least partially responsible for the pick in the endzone. Tiki's got 85 yards on the ground, but also had the big fumble.
Although, if you want to just include everyone who walked away from the NFL, there's also Napolean Kaufman, who left to pursue ministry.
Eli Manning on passes not caught by Plaxico Burress: 4-for-14, 31 yards, no TDs, 1 INT, 1 sack.
190 ...or Pat Tillman
I loved Theismann's criticisms of risky passes thrown by Eli Manning at the end of the first half deep in his own territory. Joe, does the name Jack Squirek ring a bell?
Gamecast oddity: They've taken away Ware's sack that was reversed as incomplete, but he's still credited with the forced fumble (as is Eli with the fumble, and MacKenzie with the recovery).
Pretty weak 'Jacked-Up' this week. Can't say my bloodlust is satiated
Joeys T is not the worst thing about the new MNF. The production is awful, and celeb interviews?!, ugh. come on. (this is actually the first time i've watched every second the espn mnf)
195 I was just thinking the same thing. I would have thought Manning (Peyton) getting bent in half backwards would have qualified.
regarding the "horsecollar" non-call, the guy has to be pulled down and back. Roy picked up tiki's legs and pushed forward for the tackle. as an aside, i can't wait untill Williams knocks himself out with one of his patented head-on spears.
Overheard at ESPN: "Hey, what if we assembled a crack team of football experts and had them break down tape and show fans why games went the way they did." "No, let's put together a reel of guys hitting with no form and show that instead."
Well, they do have Michael Irvin as part of the crack team. That makes sense.
Woah, Romo sighting.
ITS ROMO TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No more blitz after blitz up the middle.
I've got a really bad feeling about this...
Well, that didn't take long.
Wow. Intuition rocks.
Hahahah oh man this is going to be awesome!!
And he rewards us with a pick
THIS IS ALREADY AMAZING
So begins the Tony Romo era.
I'm so happy right now I'm going to touch myself in a sexual manner.
Nice prescience by the announcers.
Looks like the calls to bring in Sheriff Romo have finally been answered. About time.
And as I write that, first pass interception (tipped ball though, that's rough).
That was like the most perfect thing that could've happened.
The worst part of that is having the booth's slavish defense of Bledsoe vindicated for a few minutes
Man, Theisman and Kornheiser are loving this......
The limit of Parcells' loyalty has been officially reached. We'll see how long every NFL cities' most popular player stays that way.
oops, apparently not long....
Oh god yes, switch back to Bledsoe, that would be even more hilarious
inauspicious, thy name is Romo.
I think I just saw Parcells calling for Jeff Hostetler.
Seriously, there isn't enough time in the day for Joe Theisman to talk to all of these people.
216 Can they even do that? Isn't there some weird rule about how you can sub QB's? ...or does that just apply to the number 3 guy?
This is the funniest game I've ever seen. Honestly.
The Cowboys are just such fantastic comedy. I'm glad there are not many fanatic Cowboys fans, because I'm sure that I'm being a bit harsh, but honestly, the Cowboys are so predictable it's funny. Pass rush = no offense. Why, oh why, didn't I put money on this game?
Parcells is actually calling Elvis (not Grbac)
Be careful what you wish for my fellow Cowboy fans...
#221: It's just the 3rd QB. And that only applies until the 4th quarter, after which it's free substitution for all QBs.
You can freely sub your #1 & #2 QBs. If you bring the #3 in before the 4th quarter, neither of the 1st two can come back in.
Perhaps they were saying Boo-omo?
yeah but what does TO think about all of this?
Arrington out with a ruptured achilles.
Ruptured Achilles for LaVar. Giants are looking smart for using all the playing time incentives they did in the contract.
That pass actually looked pretty on target...
It sounds like Joe Theisman really resents the fact that Tony Romo is in the game.
surprises T.O. didn't get in romo's face about not getting his first pass attempt ...
Ruptured Achilles: Arrington's out for the year?
Gee, it'd be nice if they talked about the loss of a starting linebacker. Naw, that'd be too easy.
Whoever said that the production values of MNF are awful was dead on. I've been saying that for weeks. I cannot believe how bad ESPN is at actually covering a game.
Hey, another interview coming up.
It's even more awesome because fans showed up at this game with pre-printed signs asking for Romo
With Osi, Arrington, and Emmons out, the Cowboys are starting to have some success running the ball.
Pretty blatantly there early
I missed the first half. What happened to Bledsoe? Injured, or just benched? His stat line didn't look that bad.
Hooray Pierce! And no flag. Outstanding. Nice call with Romo.
mwhahahahaha... oh Owens, thank you for that one.
go for it ....
TO, busy complaining about not getting thrown at, doesn't bother with catching on fourth down.
If I was TO I probably wouldn't be smiling over the fact that I was wide open and dropped an easy pass on 4th down.
I wonder if Arrington likes to play football enough to come back from such an injury. How much money did he squander in his (and his agent's) contract shennanigans with the Redskins?
Gee, what nice play by a highly paid, extremely vocal, wide receiver.
poor decision-making, if sideline reporters are to be believed.
What if Romo got in Owens' face for that drop... how amazing would that be??
I want to see a shot of Cowboys players carrying Romo off the field on their shoulders after he leads an amazing 4th quarter 3 TD comeback. And as the crowded of jubilant Dallas players passes by their bench, the camera zooms in to catch a single tear rolling down Bledsoe's face...
i don't ask for much...
I have to say, as an Eagles fan, this game is making me feel much better after yesterday's debacle. Any day in which the Cowboys suffer -- especially by their own meaty, clumsy hands -- is a good day.
I hope a coach gets in T.O.'s face about that one ....
Corporate sh*tergy at it's finest right now
#239: Bledsoe's out with a bad case of the suck.
The Giants pass rush was clearly way too much for the Cowboys offensive line. The only way they were going to win this game was with Romo. They should've done this for the Philly game. I'm guessing they didn't want to make the same mistake twice.
Can we get a Dallas vs. Giants/Eagles game every week? Seriously? That show would be nominated for a comedy Emmy.
Let's interview David Meggett. We've got Irvin, Aikman, and Smith, let's see some Giants, please.
Isn't he in jail?
Is it me, or does Emmitt Smith have no eyebrows?
Coming up on ESPN: NFL Dance Breakdown
Hang on for a minute, there, Emmitt. I'm being told there is a game going on and for some reason our producers want me to comment on it...
Will this interview *ever* end?
254: Oh, ouch, I lost track of him after the Giants years, and had no idea. Wikipedia reveals all.
"I went to the Cardinals because I needed to make sure I never wanted to play football again."
I think Edge is following in his footsteps.
I'm curious, what is the average YAC of Eli's receivers? .5 yards, tops?
Speaking of Arizona... this reminds me of one of TMQ's cognomens. "Monday Night Football - Caution: may contain football-like substance"
Brandon Jacobs is a big boy. A powerful one, too.
Arizona sucked out Emmitt's love for the game ...
Burress trying to match TO with an easy first down dropped.
That giant cowboy mascot is just a joke
The raiders are comedy because they're inept... the Cowboys tonight are also a carnival of hilarity here and I can't even totally explain why? This is just too much
Iâ€™m being told there is a game going on and for some reason our producers want me to comment on itâ€¦
See, you sounded like the announcer there, until you mentioned the producers actually wanting to show the game.
Can you imagine Dr. Z listening to ESPN's call of the game? He claims that he needs the sound on, but with as little informations that Tirico and Co. provide, given their ballroom dancing exploration, it's hard to see why.
I think Dallas' defense has officially become demoralized.
Brandon Jacobs looks like a young Jerome Bettis. That was an amazing run.
Good lord, did anyone see TO's face right there? He looked like he just got done sucking helium out of a balloon.
re: 260, For whatever reason, I didn't register it when he said that. Laughed my ass off.
So is Ronde the younger twin, or was Theismann wrong again?
That was some power. Wow.
Brandon Jacobs is a man beast.
That's right baby, Megaweapon takes it all the way in.
267: Watching the game, I can understand why the producers would rather have discussions about ballroom dancing. You call Dallas a comedy, but part of comedy is doing the unexpected. Repeating the same jokes every week isn't entertaining.
Oh, my God, Theismann did say that. What a moron. Younger brother. Younger - twin - brother.
For reference, though, Ronde is the older twin (by seven minutes). As much as it matters.
What the hell has gotten into Jacobs? Wasn't he terrible last year?
I was just about to say something nice about TOny KOrnheiser (how he was giving props to the O-line as being responsible for Tiki's running) and then he comes all out against the Giants going for it on 4th and inches on the 1 yard line.
279-He discovered the miracles of ster...er, weight training.
did anyone also catch that crazy Jack O' Lantern face Owens was doing?
#277: Will Owens drop another pass? Will Bledsoe throw another interception? Will Tony Romo come in, and look brilliant, before getting knocked out by Owens after scrambling for a first down instead of throwing it to him?
Same jokes? Ha!
Anybody here watch the Giants play the Seahawks? What did you see?
Hate that green-trimmed building
Geez what an embarassing way to end the 3rd...
Jacobs' 4 carries tonight:
3-1-NYG20 B.Jacobs left tackle to NYG 25 for 5 yards.
1-10-DAL23 B.Jacobs right tackle to DAL 14 for 9 yards,
3-1-DAL14 B.Jacobs left guard to DAL 12 for 2 yards.
4-1-DAL3 B.Jacobs right tackle for 3 yards.
When Owens was sitting on the bench by himself? Oh yeah. It was unnerving.
284: I saw a team that, for three quarters, couldn't cover any receiver in any way. I also saw a QB who may have thought he was playing at home, given how often he threw to guys in dark jerseys.
Then the fourth quarter happened, and I don't really know how to explain it, but it was the most meaningless 27 points I ever saw.
And the football gods continue their revenge.
Manning & Burress shared responsibility for a couple of early picks; the Giants' safeties forgot how to cover receivers, and the Seahawks got an early 3-score lead.
Is TO doing that on purpose? Does he like Drew that much?
That looked like it would have been a pick if Owens hadn't slid into the defender.
If you're . . . tall . . .feet . . . Theeseman makes my brain hurt.
TO slipping on the field turf makes me chuckle, not because I have some sort of dislike for TO and like to see him do stuff like that, but because Steeler fans have been screaming for years about how "THE STOOPID CHEEP RONNIES!!!" need to invest in field turf so our players don't slip and fall on the field at Heinz Field.
Personally, I like the mud and slop. But thats just me.
The Dallas trainer was going to suggest new cleats for TO, but TO isn't talking to him either.
Tirico makes his first "Romo is a gunslinger" comment
That throw was Favre-like. The good Favre.
First Romo as gunslinger mention? Check.
Hmmmmm, Int, fumbled snap? Maybe a missed field goal. I'm betting on TO Fumble.
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