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Week 8 MNF Discussion Thread

This thread is for discussion of action on the field before, during, and after Week 8 Monday Night Football between New England and Minnesota. It's our last moment of freedom before yet another week of Colts-Patriots nonsense.


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by Josh (not verified) :: Sun, 10/29/2006 - 9:40pm

FIRST!

Free Vince Young!

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by andrew apold (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 3:03am

As a Vikings fan, I am scared of this game. Just as I was scared of the Seahawks last week. Thinking we belong in these contests doesn't seem right. Especially when its our defense you're talking about as the reason for it even being a discussion. Last time the Vikes' had a legitimate defense IMHO was 1993. Its been mostly smoke and mirrors and over-hyped DTs (Randle, Hovan) since then. I hope we enjoy Tomlin while we have him. I fear he'll be a head coach elsewhere by next year.

I am guardedly optimistic they at least put on a good showing. Childress talked before the season about being hard to defeat. The Bears came in and won, but I think they'd agree the Vikings were hard to defeat.

I can't explain the Bills game. All I will note is that was the first time the Vikings tried using their new purple pants road uniforms, which they mysteriously "lost" before their next road game.

I like Childress' approach. I'd like to think he can at least talk the same language as Billick.

Anyway. This is the kind of game I will find hard to enjoy, but will watch every second nonetheless.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 3:27am

The Pats have named four of their inactive players (pretty much had to, since they didn't make the trip out to Minnesota):

G Stephen Neal
G/C Russ Hochstein
S Eugene Wilson
TE Daniel Graham

That's all great news for the Vikings. Neal and Graham being out is going to be a big boost to the Vikings' front seven. I won't be surprised to see the Pats' running game get hamstrung and for Brady to get beaten up like he did against Buffalo last week.

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by Count (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 5:17am

With Neal and Hochstein out I'm not sure who's going to play at guard. Anyone know?

There's been talk that Seymour wasn't going to play, i'm surprised he isn't on the inactive list.

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by Starshatterer (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:39am

With Neal and Hochstein out I’m not sure who’s going to play at guard. Anyone know?
Honestly, nobody who's telling knows for sure.

The possibilities are: Yates start at G, Kaczur start at G (he's done it before), or O'Callaghan slide to G and Britt and Kaczur play RT.

Of course, my guess and $7 will get you a triple venti latte from CoffeeBucks. This is Belichick, after all -- they could call up Bam Childress from the practice squad and start him at guard. :)

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by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 12:01pm

Something ate my post. So I have to post it again.

But I heard a nasty rumor that Paris Hilton is to be involved with Monday Night Football tonight. I'm not sure in what capacity...pre-game or booth....or both....but this has the potential to be amazing.

Poke your eyes out with a spoon amazing....but amazing.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 12:16pm

Adam, poking your eyes out with a spoon would not solve the problem if she spoke or sang in the show.

Better alternatives would be to catch it on radio. Better yet, use tivo to watch the game on a 30-second delay while monitoring the FO thread for posts of anguish.

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by Marko (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 3:33pm

Did she take a cruise on Lake Minnetonka with Fred Smoot and Company? Or did she hook up with Tom Brady?

An appearance 2 weeks ago have been more appropriate (Bears-Cardinals), as she has been linked with Brian Urlacher and Matt Leinart.

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by Becephalus (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 5:14pm

Last line I saw was NE -2 which seemed just about right. NE is clearly the better team, but MIN has a large HFA and is playing really well right now. Add in the injuries and the game is pretty much a tossup.

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by Matthew Furtek (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 8:53pm

This will be a good game to see the Vikings defense... and it's always fun to watch Brad Johnson, especially when he pump-fakes.

My first guess for MNF guest was Kevin Garnett... Hank Williams Jr. was a surprise last week. If it's not someone to plug the NBA, the only other person I could think of was Prince... or maybe just an old Viking.

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by Alex DL (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 9:53pm

It would be best if it was Dave Chappelle playing Prince went on the show and offered Theissman some pancakes.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:01pm

I'm going with Jesse Ventura as the guest...

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:31pm

Pats inactives:

TE Garrett Mills
OLB Pierre Woods
DL Le Kevin Smith
DL Marquise Hill
G Stephen Neal
G/C Russ Hochstein
TE Daniel Graham
S Eugene Wilson

So (crosses fingers) it looks like Warren and Seymour will be playing. Whew (for now).

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:32pm

Someone needs to tell Benjy to set the clock back an hour on the server or at least to tell WordPress that DST is done for the year.

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by Starshatterer (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:34pm

PatsFan (#14 )--

I suspect the Outsiders are waiting for the comment crush due to games to be over.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:40pm

Well, the Pats only dressing five DLmen pretty much guarantees Seymour and Warren are gonna play.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:49pm

Actually I think Brady wouldn't play well on the moon. hard to get any air under the ball...

Plus he'd have trouble breathing. And he's never won a game at below -100 f.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:52pm

Is Bryant McKinnie the first guy doing intros to single out himself?

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:53pm

I can feel the Pats' pass defense DVOA dropping as I type...

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:53pm

Bryant McKinnie on intros singles out himself?

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:54pm

Sweet play by Seau, there.

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by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:55pm

Saying this may make a total dork, but......

Tully Banta-Cain sounds like something out of Star Wars.

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by JonL (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:56pm

Theismann said the Patriots bring it "from all sides," but how exotic are a LB rish down the middle and a DE rush around the end?

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:56pm

Anyone else not seeing their comments show up?

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:56pm

Our comments are showing up like 30 comments ago.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:57pm

Look at the comment times... somehow the clock change messed up the comments. but why just now?

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by JonL (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:58pm

I really need to stop making the MNF threads my personal Theismann bashing thread.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 10:58pm

Guessing comments will end up correcting themselves in about 53 minutes...

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:00pm

Dumb, dumb, dumb throw.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:00pm

Nice pick!

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:00pm

I guess benjy adjusted the clock.

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by JonL (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:01pm

When did it become correct to say "the [defense] turned [QB] over."

I'm asking.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:02pm

Damn. He almost ran himself out of that first down.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:03pm

How the hell was that not intercepted. Dumb throw by Johnson.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:03pm

Same team, guys! Call for it.

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by JonL (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:03pm

Neither team's running much, are they?

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:04pm

Free Tony Richardson!

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by Independent George (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:06pm

Sloppy, sloppy tackling by the Pats.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:07pm

Nice comment Joe, praising the decision to run behind Hutchinson when the run went to the other side.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:08pm

So what's the record for the fastest first quarter?

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:09pm

I'm glad Brad Johnson was throwing to a receiver, not a spot on that throw.

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:09pm

Good thing Johnson never makes mistakes, or that would have been a bad pick.

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by stan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:11pm

I don't think I have ever seen a group of LBs who hold as well in coverage as the Pats. And I mean that as a compliment.

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by Malene, cph (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:13pm

hm. According to DVOA, the Vikings are favoured by a bit here, accounting for HFA.

DVOA be damned, then. I hope.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:13pm

I wonder what the fastest quarter ever is.

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by Count (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:14pm

I like the Patriots game plan. Don't mess around with a running game that won't work.

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:16pm

I must be hearing things, did the announcers just say Brady is unknown?

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:18pm

Ah, the sweet sound of the Vikes shooting themselves in the foot.

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by stan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:18pm

Tony K explains why Tom Brady isn't well-known?!!!

Geez, I know Tony's not real bright, but "Brady's not well known"? What planet has Tony been on?

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by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:19pm

One of these times, those random fan shots between plays is going to catch some guy elbow deep in his nose.

And i'm going to laugh like a 5 year old.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:20pm

If pats go up 14, its over.

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by JonL (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:20pm

Call me crazy, but I think Brady could have run for the TD there.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:20pm

Brady missed Caldwell, there.

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by Yaguar (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:21pm

I agree with those who said he missed Caldwell. I think he fixated on Watson, who just wasn't open.

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by Scott de B. (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:21pm

Call me crazy, but I think Brady could have run for the TD there.

I thought so too, at first, but there was a Viking at the goal line. He wouldn't have made it in.

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by Count (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:22pm

Marquise Hill still can't get on the field. I guess it's safe to declare him a bust at this point.

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by Count (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:22pm

In post 67, stan will note Tony Kornheiser's blow job on Brady.

That's right, I can predict the future.

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by Yaguar (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:23pm

57: I agree, but I predict that you will get the number wrong.

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by Tally (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:24pm

Ah, they're airing that Make-a-Wish thing with Tedy Bruschi again. Nice story.

I still liked the one where Kobe lets that kid beat him in a game of H-O-R-S-E.

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:25pm

Curling! Yes!

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:26pm

Can someone make Kornheiser's vocal cords seize up?

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:28pm

How long until someone says "as good as a punt"?

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:28pm

... because tonight Tom Brady faces Chester Taylor on Monday Night Football.

I'm trying to figure out what scenario the two of them will be directly facing one another... I guess maybe the coinflip. Yeah, that must be it...

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:28pm

Joe - The Vikings haven't tried to go down the field. Except that one long pass that was almost intercepted... oh, and here's another one that is. Ah, its about as good as a punt.

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:28pm

"Like runs, except they throw it."-Joe Theisman. The man, the myth, the legend.

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by JonL (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:29pm

At least Theismann had the decency to trash Brad Johnson after that INT.

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by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:29pm

theisman can't believe that brad johnson throws interceptions.

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:30pm

The announcers were praising, at least I think they're praising, the Patriots front office for not being sentimental, yet earlier they said the Vikings should offer Brad Johnson a contract extension because of what he's done the last season or so.

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by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:30pm

I think the booth guest should be Joe Mauer. Why? Joe Mauer rules.

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:30pm

Please don't send us to the booth. At least Irvin might make a Lamar Thomas-esque comment if we let him call the game.

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:31pm

Who would dare deny the Madden curse?

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by Diane (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:31pm

Irvin can't even pick football games .... sigh.

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by stan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:32pm

I am still trying to wrap my brain around Tony K? In the last few minutes, he has told us that 1) Brady is the greatest QB to play in the NFL in the last 40 years, and 2) Brady is not very well-known.

What are the TV ratings for the Super Bowl again?

And these weren't brain farts. Tony clearly had planned these comments. He's been "thinking" about them in preparation for the broadcast. [I use the term "thinking" very broadly here.]

I just don't think I can do it. My brain just can't go there ... just can't wrap, warp that far around, warpping tooo far.

Tony's just a brain warp too far.

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by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:33pm

Kornheiser obviously hasn't been reading "the thread."

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by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:33pm

"bill doesn't care about balance. he care about points and production"
that is possibly the most lucent thing theisman has said. which is sad.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:34pm

So, is that a "mincing, fraidy-cat punt"?

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by JonL (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:34pm

I love Kornheiser, but "all he does is win?" Ugh...

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:34pm

Nice speech, Kornheiser, but it belongs in the irrational Brady/Manning thread.

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by Erasmus (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:34pm

Brady wins all those games by himself?

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by OhNoes (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:35pm

What's the over/under on the amount of times they play that annoying Viking horn?

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by Diane (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:35pm

[28]

the hot girlfriend helps ...

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by Count (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:36pm

Damn you 58, damn you to hell.

The Patriots look really good so far, though they're only up by 10. There have been some great blocks by the running backs.

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by RobinFiveWords (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:36pm

Just got back from the gym, where they had the MNF game on with closed captioning. It's ________ that I could tell Theismann from Turico/Kornheiser from the transcribed words alone.

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:36pm

Is the announcer race going to count for Simmons's over/under on guys dressed as the booth crew?

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:36pm

What's the over/under on Lake Minnetonka references?

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by stan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:37pm

Wow, that Kornheiser blowjob may be the worst I have ever witnessed from an announcer. Not ever Brent Musberger at his most irritating has ever been that big a suckup! (Although I no longer have the sound on when Musberger does a game. If he's gotten worse in the last few years, I wouldn't know.)

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:38pm

Theisman got one right!?!

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:38pm

The Vikes get called for offensive PI more than any team I've seen.

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:38pm

Apparently you've never witnessed Theismann call a Favre game.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:38pm

and on replay. What the hell did they call that on?

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by Diane (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:38pm

[32]

he's trying to make time with Brady's hot gf?

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:38pm

Nice playing football penalty on that OPI.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:39pm

Immediately after agreening that was a BS penalty... they then rip the VIkigns for "committing" said bogus penalty.

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by JonL (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:40pm

#31

Does "change the culture" count?

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:40pm

What is BB wearing?

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by stan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:41pm

33,

Does Joe T simply write off every single great QB of the Super Bowl era as a nobody compared to the great Favre? I know Joe T is pretty awful, but damn.

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by OhNoes (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:41pm

Wearing torn sweatshirts is excellent shtick.

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by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:41pm

Belicheck stole that look off of me.

The jerk.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:43pm

Typical Brady quiets the crowd.

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by JonL (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:43pm

GREAT pickups by the running backs.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:44pm

Vikes starting to get some pressure. Or are covering the receivers better.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:45pm

Matt Light croaked that guy.

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by Count (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:45pm

That was a nifty little play, fake the draw and throw a WR screen that goes for a ton of yardage.

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:46pm

And the no-names come through beautifully.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:46pm

Nice opening drive.

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by David (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:46pm

Brady just picks them apart

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by Count (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:46pm

Theisman, after the 40 yard Gabriel play: "Brady threw a rocketship."

Great start to the game. I guess they aren't going to try the running game, at least not early.

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by Malene, cph (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:47pm

way to cover Reche Caldwell guys

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:47pm

Bethel Johnson return coming up. Prediction - an ill-advised return.

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:48pm

46: Tek Jansen.

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by Count (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:49pm

You know what I want to know? How this can be spinned positively for the Vikings.

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:50pm

Why was the clock running after the Caldwell completion? Didn't he go out of bounds?

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:50pm

How to spin this positively from a Vikings standpoint... um... well, last week they gave up the opening touchdown in 3 plays, this time it took the Patriots 7. And they rebounded nicely from that first drive.

Next up - One of the trio is going to mention that Minnesota has scored on its opening drive every game... and another will counter with "yeah but all field goals" since week 1.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:50pm

Rats. Evans held.

But at least the Great Post Overlap is over now :-).

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by JonL (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:51pm

As someone whose fantasy opponent started Corey Dillon this week, I couldn't be happier with all the carries Maroney's getting.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:51pm

Re: 113

In the first half clock doesn't stop on OOB plays until the last two minutes. In the second half the timing rule changes with five minutes left.

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:52pm

Somebody should tell Thiesmann that the paper-mache head is as close as he'll get to the Hall of Fame.

118
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:52pm

Why the QB sneak?

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:53pm

119-I guess that Brady saw center uncovered, but I agree that it doesn't make sense.

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by Count (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:54pm

114- thanks.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:54pm

Game over.

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by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:54pm

Tom Brady Mad.

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:55pm

Brady only does GQ.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:55pm

Re: 122

Don't count on it. Remember the NE-Jets game.

Brady's line this half: 17-25, 257yd, 2 TD, 1 INT.

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:56pm

Did they just say Brady doesn't do many commercials? Am I the only one who remembers the Mastercard ads from last year?

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by Malene, cph (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:56pm

re 119-120

He knew he had the TD on the next play, so he just wanted to take 40 more secs off... ;-)

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:57pm

Okay, revisiting my old post at the top of the post overlap... how to spin this positively for the Vikings..... This is an out of conference game, and it won't count so much intiebreakers.

Childress stressed to his team that this was "just one game" (from pregame commentary). Like he expected this.

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:57pm

That kickoff was Vanderjackian.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:58pm

Still time for the Pats to pad their score.

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:58pm

Tirico just said the most sane thing this crew has ever thought of.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:58pm

Give Johnson credit for holding on to that ball on the sack.

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:59pm

What, that listening to them makes one head come off?

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:59pm

I wish they'd bring in Tarvaris for the Hail Mary. He can get it that far.

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by Athelas (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:00am

#126 (and I'm a little sad the hallucenegenic thread is over and #126 will be static)--the O-line said he did the commercial only to get the O-line some love.

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by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:00am

I was talking to someone today, and they asked about the game..and I said the Pats would air the ball out...

Bellichek has been talking all week about how good Minnesota is against the run, and how big their D line is....

Sounds like they thought the same thing I did: why run against a great run D team, when you can just throw all day?

On an interesting note, I havent seen a play yet where a pats wide reciever hasnt been wide open... maybe theyre better than people thought.

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by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:01am

Is the Steve Young mask that small, or does Michael Irvin have one gigantic head?

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by OhNoes (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:07am

Brad Johnson looks awful.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:07am

I don't know what drama is left. I'll put my money on the Tirico giant head. Its more aerodynamic.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:07am

How much hair did they put on that Berman head?

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by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:07am

You know making Michael Irvin play a lame white guy for halloween just pisses him off.

Back to Tom Brady for a minute, he's a really underated trash talker. Before games I always like to go and hang out in the south endzone in that big open end just to see whats going on. When you stand there you are literally within speaking distance of the players, and there is always some sort of witty banter going on back and forth. Well, back during 2004 the undefeated Patriots were in town to play the Steelers and Tom Brady was walking around on the field just hanging out, and this guy standing a few feet away from starts yelling at him. He wasn't really heckling him, just normal "HEY BRADY, WE'RE GONNA BEAT YOU TODAY!" stuff.

Brady turns around and starts pointing to his hears pretending like he can't hear him, this only makes the guy yell louder...and louder...and louder.

Finally, Brady looks up at the guy and goes "Sorry dude, I can't hear you, my Super Bowl rings are stuck in my ears."

The guy then just totally losses it.

"YOU STOLE THAT LINE FROM PATRICK ROY YOU BASTARD!"

And Brady just keeps pointing out his ears while the guy just got frustrated and walked away.

I was howling, not because the guy was quick or witty, but because he was trying to "get inside Brady's head" while Brady ended up getting inside of his head.

This, in my opinion, proves above all else that Tom Brady is indeed the greatest player in the history of players.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:08am

Cool. The crowd booed "Irvin" and "Kornheiser" and "Theisman".

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by stan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:08am

136,

Agreed. I've never seen people so wide open. The Pats are sometimes just standing in place without a defender within 10-15 yards. Who designed that defense?

Does it work in the NFC Tundra division?

143
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:08am

Lol, theyre booing all the booth crew

144
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:09am

I'm disappointed they didn't boo Thiesmann more.

145
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:09am

I was robbed!

146
by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:09am

steve young wins!

147
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:10am

That was pretty bland. But it beats most of their halftime ideas.

148
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:10am

Andrew,

yeah, brady does talk a ton of shit, and no one seems to notice it.

149
by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:10am

I think they should keep those guys behind the actual guys for all future monday night broadcasts.

150
by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:11am

Does anyone else see Irvin getting into a "When Keepin' It Real Goes Wrong" moment with the guy in his head?

151
by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:11am

Wow... seeing the Countdown guys there with their huge-headed paper mache dopplegangers makes me know what being on acid must feel like.

152
by hector31 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:12am

I think the Young mascot collapsed at the goal line as a homage to the long TD scramble Young had against the Vikings, I want to say, at The Stick. Hokey contest, but a mascot with a sense of history.

153
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:13am

They should have had a papier-mache Catholic Match Girl in there...

154
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:13am

That defense is based on the idea that the pressure will get to the QB, and if it doesn't they will at least tackle the guy right after the catch.

I think they have to bring more, at least if they die that way it will be over quicker.

The Vikigns game plan for this game missed the ball completely, "force them to stop running?"

Another Vikings plus: Now maybe Tomlin won't be such a hot commodity for a head coaching job.

155
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:14am

153: That would have been unfair. The other competitors would have been hypnotized by her eyes and unable to race.

156
by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:14am

RE #153:

Wouldn't have worked. The weight distribution would have been all screwed up due to those protruding eyes.

157
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:15am

First half play of the game was the first Brad Johnson INT. Mewelde Moore was held on that play, but Johnson had to see that he was. If he wanted to throw there to draw the penalty, at least throw it at his feet.

158
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:19am

If he's not throwing to spots, I don't know what Brad is thinking.

159
by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:20am

I guess Brad Johnson is trying to challenge Jeff Blake for the coveted "Highest Vertical 20-Yard Pass" award.

160
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:21am

And there is Troy Williamson with his big play drop of the week.

161
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:21am

Wow...williamson really can't catch.

162
by TomC (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:25am

The hell he was!

163
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:25am

For all the bogus PI calls Asante has been tagged with, he got away with a real one on that Williamson play.

164
by Athelas (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:26am

#148- The Patriots do their trash-talking on the field; I think it was the Steelers that said the Pats may do the most trash-talking during the game of any team.

165
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:26am

yeah, he did...althought it didnt look like williamson even tried to catch the ball...

SHIT.

166
by JonL (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:26am

Mewelde!

167
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:26am

%&$#%&^&$&%&%$$!

168
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:27am

Finally something. Amazing there were no flags.

169
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:28am

243 games w/out a shutout? lessee. I remember a 23-0 shutout to the '85 bears... but 243/16 is about 15 seasons, so this would be circa 1991.

170
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:29am

It was 26-0 to the Saints.

171
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:30am

Typical Vikings, give up a return runback to kill the mo.

172
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:30am

special teams karma?

maroney is a stud.

173
by TomC (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:31am

We didn't want that touchdown anyway, so here, have it back.

174
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:33am

Tirico keeps mentioning the Pats are in 5-wides, but they line up with 4 WRs and a TE.

175
by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:34am

Have we had a booth interview yet?

176
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:38am

The Vikings haven't run much. Don't know why the Pats would even bother honoring the play action.

177
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:39am

Warren Moon does not qualify as a booth interview, because he is on the field.

178
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:40am

Anyone remember what the FO ref study said about Nemmers's crew?

179
by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:40am

That's more than one word, Warren.

180
by hector31 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:42am

Did it seem like Michelle Tafoya wanted no part of that Warren Moon hug and peck? Seemed like that to me.

181
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:42am

So what exactly is the definition of a "football move", anyways?

182
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:42am

not a catch...no football move. The reciever didnt hold onto the ball as he went to the ground. As much as I think he caught it, the call is right.

183
by Athelas (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:42am

Husband & I disagree--I think it is a catch and fumble. Let's see....

184
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:43am

Troy Brown is one catch away from tying Stanley Morgan's franchise record for career receptions.

185
by hector31 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:43am

Williamson is the new Ashley Lelie. Can't track the longer passes while he's running, for some reason.

186
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:43am

I haven't been that impressed by this crew. For the most part it looks like they're just not calling much... they didn't call the near-tackling of Mewelde Moore on the first Johnson interception, then they called a Pass Interference on a play where I couldn't even see contact. Now they just let Belicheck talk them into ruling a completion incomplete. The Patriots would be winning this game anyway, they don't need any help.

187
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:44am

Ridiculous.

188
by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:44am

It's about time Joe Theisman appologized.

189
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:45am

The pass was an incomplete...its textbook call. The reciever didnt hold onto the ball going to the ground...its textbook.

190
by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:45am

I admire Bill's ability to talk people out of anything, but that was a catch+fumble.

191
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:45am

There's no point in playing if the officials are going to do that.

192
by hector31 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:45am

I hate play-action in non-passing situations. It just wastes time! Good example on the 4th-and-3 just now.

192
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:45am

186... I agree that PI looked ridiculous.. but the angle was tough to see them both.

194
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:46am

Bellicheck's mind-control powers aren't limited by his ripped sweatshirt. He can still convince the refs to change calls in his favor.

195
by Scott de B. (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:46am

So what exactly is the definition of a “football move�, anyways?

Some kind of motion you would expect to make in the course of a normal football play. Taking a step is a football move. Falling down is a football move. Catapulting yourself out of bounds is not a football move.

196
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:46am

189 textbook? he had a grip on it for 2.5 steps, almost to the ground. The ball didn't move once until ripped out.

197
by Harry (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:46am

So the Vikings follow TMQs advice and don't punt. How'd that work out for them?

198
by Erasmus (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:47am

He didn't hold onto the ball because Rodney Harrison tore it out of his hands after he took 2 steps with the ball in his hand.

I am not sure if that was the correct call..

199
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:48am

195: Really? I've seen all of those things declared not football moves.

200
by Scott de B. (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:48am

Reche Caldwell needs to team up with the Catholic Match girl.

201
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:48am

196.

If a reciever catches the ball while being tackled, he has to keep the ball to the ground...he didnt.

202
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:48am

Beautifully executed screen.

203
by Matthew Furtek (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:49am

That wasn't the correct call on the field. In fact, with the volume down I thought the Pats were challenging the call.
Catch + step1 + step2 = complete pass.
Complete pass + step 3 + strip = fumble.

Nemmers... you let me down.

204
by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:49am

Are you allowed to chuck the football 50 yards across the field after a play?

205
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:49am

198

Ellis Hobbs...

WHo apparantly is back from being hurt.

206
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:50am

204: Sure, as long as you don't spike it near anybody, I guess.

207
by Count (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:50am

Theisman: "I will not condemn the system."

He's not a true revolutionary. Damn.

The Vikings are getting some bad calls here, but they're getting dominated in this game so it wouldn't matter anyway. I don't understand how that wasn't a catch.

208
by Matthew Furtek (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:50am

Steps are football moves, in fact they are the most basic of football moves. If a step wasn't a football move recievers on the sidelines wouldn't be able to "toe tap" to get the catch. Wiggins didn't go to the ground in the process of making the catch, he went to the ground in the process of being tackled, and fumbled in the process of being tackled.

I'm sure Pereria will be able to explain it to us much better than that... because I must have it all friggin' wrong.

209
by Erasmus (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:51am

he did hold onto the ball for 2 steps. So if Wiggins carries Harrison ten yards on his back and then the ball finally comes loose-its an incomplete pass?

210
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:51am

Bloody hell....

211
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:52am

Belicheck could win this challenge the way this is going.

212
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:52am

Bad challenge. No way that gets overturned.

213
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:52am

It looked like his kneee touched smoot, not the ground.

214
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:52am

212 - you doubt Belichek?

214
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:52am

Yeah, I think forward progress was stopped, but thats a fumble.

216
by Erasmus (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:52am

and I am sorry-Hobbs caused the fumble not Harrison...

217
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:54am

Don't worry patsfan, the Vikes will give it right back.

217
by johnt (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:54am

You know what? I seriously think Belichick threw that flag so that the Vikings would get their makeup call there. Now the refs feel like it's even after hosing the crap out of the Vikings.

219
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:55am

Brad Johnson has the ugliest "deep ball" I have ever seen.

220
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:56am

219: Worse than Mark Brunell?

221
by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:56am

Brad Childress just doesn't look like a football coach. Actually, he sort of looks like my boss.

Gah.

222
by JonL (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:57am

Mark Brunell throws a deep ball?

223
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:57am

220

Tonight, yeah.

Honestly, hes thrown about 10 of them.. 1 has been picked off. I think about 7 of them a DB was closer to the ball than a reciever

224
by hector31 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:58am

Childress is Gerald McRaney.

225
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:58am

I don't care what the coach looks like. And even with results tonight, I'm happy with Childress so far.

226
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:58am

I sure as heck hope Chad Jackson doesn't turn out to be the second coming of Bethel Johnson.

227
by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:59am

RE #226:

*shudders*

228
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:59am

Re: 217

You were right...

229
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 12:59am

Another penalty on minnesota for playing football.

230
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:00am

Sweet move by Maroney to pick up the extra few yards for the first down.

231
by johnt (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:00am

The Vikings are getting violated. Belichick's mind powers are particularly lethal tonight.

For my money the worst call was the offensive PI, though. The DB was fooled by a curl route, not shoved. Drive ender, really a game ender when the Pats scored right after that.

232
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:00am

221: Did you hand him your TPS reports?

233
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:01am

Hes officially not Bethel Johnson. Bethel johnson never would have got into the endzone there.

234
by cd6 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:01am

Colts-like tackling

and its over

235
by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:01am

That TD was ridiculous. Nice demonstration of the balance drill.

236
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:01am

Is that a record for "most right hand pushups on a TD catch"?

237
by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:01am

PatsFan,

I thank Mr. Jackson just double-mule kicked us in the testes for comparing him to Bethel.

238
by Count (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:02am

226- Well timed.

239
by Count (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:02am

226- Well timed.

240
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:03am

Its time to sit Brad Johnson down. DOesn't mean anything for next week, but no point in risking injury in a game that is way out of reach.

241
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:04am

240.

Honestly, It can't get any worse. Atleast if you put a new guy in, theyve got the "no film" advantage.

242
by cd6 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:05am

Tom Brady gets praised for "not doing as many commercials as some other quarterbacks" and it's time to just turn the TV off.

Wow.

243
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:06am

Kornheiser with a Shirley McClain reference. Is that his Dennis Miller moment?

244
by Underdog Brady (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:06am

Brady's on fire. Love to see him throw another 2 td's in the 4th and go over 400 yards passing.

Remember, no one ever thought he'd be a good college qb let alone make it in the NFL.

GO BLUE AND GO BRADY!

245
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:07am

Speaking of risking injury...

246
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:07am

OH CMON.

Wilfork got pushed into the QB.

247
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:07am

Helmet to the back of the back? As opposed to the front of the back? I guess that would be a really personal foul, then.

248
by chuangtzu (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:07am

So, are these idiots going to fawn all over Walters and Wallace next Monday night, too?

249
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:08am

If Johnson or Taylor or an OL gets hurt I take back everthing i said about Childress.

250
by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:08am

Pretty late, but I didn't see the alleged headbutt. Still probably a good flag.

251
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:09am

250.

Watch the play, the RT put his hand in the center of wilfork's back and pushed him right into brad johnson.

252
by Nate (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:09am

I'm just watching on gamecast, but what's with the 38/8 pass/run split for the Patriots? They've been winning all game - it seems kind of silly to pass that much. Have they gotten Andy Reid disease?

253
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:10am

250: Wilfork dove into Brad Johnson head-first. Pushed or not, you can't headbutt the QB.

254
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:10am

Vikes say Taylor has a shoulder stinger.

255
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:10am

On the same token, why is Brady still i there?

256
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:11am

252

The Vikings can't stop the pass, and are shutting down the run...so why stop.

Plus, theres been atleast 10 screens at this point

257
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:11am

Kraft is so plastered.

258
by hector31 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:11am

Both starting QBs should sit now (31-7, under 14 left). If Brady got hurt at this point, what a tragedy that would be. Ditto Brad Johnson.

259
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:13am

That's a bad graphic. 40 years with no superbowl titles before Belichick? at least keep it to the superbowl era.

I want to apologize for my many misspellings of Belicheck in this thread....

oh, and I see the ref crew is getting their makeup calls in late so it looks even.

260
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:13am

Too bad there was a hold. That was a great playcall..

261
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:14am

And Tom pulls a Bledsoe-esque "run backwards a zillon yards and get sacked".

262
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:14am

Bollinger is going to come in.

When does Cassel get in?

263
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:14am

259: Well, it would be no AFL championship titles either in that time-span.

264
by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:14am

The Brooks Bollinger Experience starts.... NOW.

265
by hector31 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:15am

Brady isn't more popular than Ortiz. Not even close, TK.

266
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:15am

261.. yeah..that was ugly, although it looked like he slipped more than got tackled, I thought he had the guy for a second

267
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:17am

THere we go. Not Tarvaris, but Bollinger. Immediately sacked. But I don't care, he's taking those hits for Johnson.

268
by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:18am

You gotta feel bad for Brooks right now.

268
by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:18am

Wow, this is escalating quickly... it's really getting quite out of hand.

270
by pcs (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:18am

Aaron Brooks Bollinger

271
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:18am

Jesus... all those expensive O lineman are suddenly the Pat's line's bitches.

272
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:18am

Bollinger was a late addition to the team. You think the OL might not work as hard for him as they would for Johnson?

The reason I wanted Tarvaris was he would probably have just run for a few yards each play.

273
by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:21am

"Amateurs work till they get it right; Professionals work until they can't get it wrong."

Serious question, guys: If anyone but the NFL voice guy were to say that during a business meeting, how hard would it be for you not to bust out laughing? That sounds like something that came out of cliche management slogans 101.

274
by Marko (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:22am

"243 games w/out a shutout? lessee. I remember a 23-0 shutout to the ‘85 bears."

I think that was in 1986. The scores in 1985 were 33-24 in Minnesota (the Thursday night game with McMahon's heroics) and 27-9 in Chicago.

275
by hector31 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:22am

If the Pats lose anyone important in the garbage time of this game, NE fans should be pissed. Yeah, let's watch Watson get gang-tackled by a defense that's frustrated.

276
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:22am

Last series for Brady?

277
by Dean from Oz (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:23am

I just need Maroney to contribute 12 more yards rushing now, or failing that, 1 reception for 7 yards.

I dont ask much....

278
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:23am

This is just padding stats at this point. Gotta pay your respects to the fantasy peole that showed faith in them.

279
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:24am

Sorry Dean... Maroney gets a couple more of your yards, but the Vikings penalty wipes them out... C'est la vie du football d'imagination....

280
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:25am

Please take Brady out before he gets hurt.

281
by Broker (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:26am

Will Theismann -EVER- just shut his mouth?

282
by cd6 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:26am

A Brady injury on this insane 4th down passing attempt would have been epic

I can't believe not only that Brady is still in, but how many times they've attempted to pass here in the 4th quarter.

283
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:27am

This is just New England playing smart football, realizing that they need to give Brooks some room to run backwards so they can get more sack yards.

284
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:28am

Eh -- passing on 4th down there isn't insane. A punt from there probably goes in the EZ for a net 15 yard punt. But they should have called a quick-hitting play. This better be Brady's last series, or if he stays in, just have him hand off.

285
by Scott de B. (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:28am

Brady isn’t more popular than Ortiz. Not even close, TK.

I think he is when you take into account the non-Boston audience.

286
by RIch Conley (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:30am

Bryant Makinnie is getting abused.

287
by Harry (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:30am

I think Brady is more popular in Boston. I certainly see more kids with Brady shirts than Ortiz shirts. The media loves to pretend the Red Sox are the most popular team in New England - in reality the Patriots are far more popular, just not with the moneyed crowd.

288
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:32am

Bryant McKinnie is good when motivated. He's not motivated at this point.

289
by pcs (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:32am

Well, if the Pats refuse to run out the clock, at least the Vikings will do it for them.

Do we have an official thread for Brady-Ortiz arguments?

290
by hector31 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:33am

Would the Red Sox bought Papi in a 31-7 game? ; )

Belichick is the genius and all, but leaving Brady in that long and having him throw the ball, just idiotic.

291
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:34am

heh, you gotta kick the field goal, you're down by 4 scores...

292
by B (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:35am

The Pats defense clearly doesn't believe in playing prevent.

293
by hector31 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:35am

Right to go for it on fourth down. They are down 24 (8, 8, 8).

294
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:35am

Finally -- Cassell.

295
by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:37am

Yes, joe. this is a copycat league. Now every team in the league is going to put a deadeye accurate passer who doesn't feel the rush behind center.

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by hector31 (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:37am

Tirico talking of tough schedules - check how Philly ends the last six weeks. Insane. All of their divisional road games in a row, plus at Indy, and home with Carolina and Atlanta.

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by Dean from Oz (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:37am

Come on Maroney, dont do this to me....

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by mike (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:38am

I think it's time to bench the announcers now and put in the 2nd stringers. Don't want any of them getting hurt.

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by Dean from Oz (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:40am

Not before Maroney gets 3 more yards....please???

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by andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 10/31/2006 - 1:41am

How many yards does Moore have receiving now...