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Game Discussion: DAL-SEA Wild Card

This thread is for discussion of action on the field before, during, and after the first-round playoff game between Dallas and Seattle. Each game this year will get its own discussion thread, so please discuss the other games in those specific threads.


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1
by Russell (not verified) :: Thu, 01/04/2007 - 6:10am

I just read the article that Mike Tanier posted on Fox Sports.Net about how the Cowboys will win at Seattle this weekend. WHAT A JOKE!! After the Seahawks spank the Cowboys,I can't wait to see what garbage you have to say about the Hawks then!!?? GO SEAHAWKS! Cowgirls suck!!

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by Waverly (not verified) :: Fri, 01/05/2007 - 7:26pm

Re: #1

Yes, I must be on the wrong web site.

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by Jason (not verified) :: Fri, 01/05/2007 - 8:03pm

I too just read Tanier's Fox article and it is a joke for what was said about Dallas players. He also gave too much credit for the Hawk's having a chance to win. Dallas will win and Tanier will have to eat crow for what was said about Dallas players.

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by John (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 1:47am

While the game clearly favors the Cowboys; Brown, Burleson and Plackemeier certainly give Seattle the special teams advantage. I don’t think Martin Gramatica is much of an improvement over Mike Vanderjagt, and looking at Bill Parcells, I sort of worry about his health if this game is late and close.

Seattle's pass rush should be able to force Romo to make some mistakes, how big those mistakes are depends a lot on luck.

If Trufant and Herndon have been half as bad as your metrics make them look, perhaps Jennings and...well maybe Jennings will be an improvement, anyway. Scrappy guys like Babineaux seem adept at grabbing tipped pass and falling on loose balls if not, you know, covering the WR.

Frankly, even as a Hawks fan I don't see too many scenarios where Seattle wins,
but, hell, it's just one game and if nothing else can't we all root for no' mo' TO!

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by LMSx (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 5:22pm

The biggest conundrum as a Seahawks fan is knowing that according to DVOA and conventional statistics, the Hawks have been very mediocre over the course of the season, while also knowing that this core of players played well enough to get to the Super Bowl last year (and have played well in their last two games of the regular season).

If Pete Hunter and whatshisface can survive Romo to Owens, the Hawks have as good a chance as any other NFC team to go deep in the playoffs.

/homer

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by Jack Russell Terror (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 9:04pm

As an Eagle fan .. this is a wonderful game .. either see the Cowgirls get crushed .. or possibly meet them in the NFC championship game and then crush them.

I can't imagine Seattle can win this unless the weather stops Tony 'small hands' Romo from getting the ball to what should be wide open Glenn, Owens and Whitten.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 9:34pm

It doesn't seem at all unreasonable that the SeaChickens could win. Assuming Hasselbeck makes fewer mistakes than Romo and Owens' drops cancel out Stevens' drops, well, who the hell knows?

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by Kuato (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 9:35pm

Re #6:

Carefull JRT, don't count the Eagles wins over the Giants and Saints before they hatch. Colts fans did that a lot last year against Pitt, and look what happened.

Hubris is a bitch.

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 9:50pm

Man, Alexander sounds exactly like Tiki Barber.

Maybe he is the long-lost third Barber brother.

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by Kal (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 9:55pm

It seems totally unreasonable to me that the Hawks could win. I know that Dallas has looked meh, but Seattle has looked downright putrid. And that was before they lost their secondary to a wasting disease or something.

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by Register allocation (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 9:55pm

I don't want this country. I just want your half.

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by Tom Kelso (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 9:59pm

Ana Ng!!!! Where have you been?!??!?

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:00pm

And for the 2007 Super Bowl halftime show...John Mellencamp!

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:01pm

Worst. pregame. music. ever.

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by pr9000 (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:01pm

I just got a new HDTV, and it's the first time I've seen Pink in all her ... uh ... "glory" is the word I was going to use, but somehow I don't think that's the right word.

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:06pm

i am left to wonder about T.O: Outside his histrionics, was TO ever a WR who would yank a catch in traffic and take nasty hits?

This season, it is terry glenn who has been doing the dirty part while TO has most of his catches pulled in toward the sideline.

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by John (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:06pm

Uh, isn't "spotlight" one word? Not that I need another reason to hate that commercial.

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:06pm

The only thing worse than "this is our country" is "this is our country" in HDTV.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:07pm

i don't know how much more john cougar concentration camp my liver can take... we had our second our country BEFORE the kickoff!

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:07pm

err.... take a drink!

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:08pm

no, joel, no!

Think of your liver!

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:12pm

is this bobby carpenter's first game as starter?

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:12pm

Man, that Dallas defense is good! Parcells is a defensive genius!

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:14pm

dont get demarcus ware to cover bobby engram or else you would be giving a zillion yds

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:14pm

seattle looking like a well-oiled machine on first drive.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:17pm

farmer repairing fence. chevy truck. drink!

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:17pm

Which is more surprising: That the Cowboys defended a pass or that the Seahawks didn't drop any passes on that drive?

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by jebmak (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:18pm

If this Diet Pepsi commercial ran as much as 'our country' I might hate it even more.

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:20pm

28,

just give it time.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:20pm

no doubt. i think bollywood musicals might have better dubbing.

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by PackMan (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:20pm

I would love to see Holmgren go to Arizona.

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by pr9000 (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:20pm

It's like those old, bad "Football Follies" from NFL Films.

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by jebmak (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:21pm

I think that Darby guy is really Art Shell in disguise.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:24pm

any carrie underwood sightings? throw a dog a bone...

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by John (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:24pm

In the context of the "Centers win games" discussion, I found it interesting that on the only snap I've watched (very recent Dallas shotgun) the center spent the entire time watching for Romo to call for the snap, and no time watching the defense. Saturday is constantly watching the defense for the Colts.

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:25pm

Will the fan in seat c-267 report to the defensive backs coach?

37
by Erasmus (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:25pm

the Fighting Mule knocks the pass out of the Jackass's hand...

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by Shaun (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:26pm

this is our country...

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:26pm

#32
ha. except those old follies clips were great! i used to have one called "Dial M for Moron" that had just a ton of late 70s/early 80s football suckitude.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:27pm

Must by Chevy truck. The voice of Mellancamp compels me.

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by Alex Mackenzie (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:27pm

Kelly Jennings is a funny looking dude.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:28pm

Or "buy" even.

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by Register allocation (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:29pm

Field goals and picks. Didn't I just see this game?

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:30pm

Madden is completely wrong in praises about TO

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by jebmak (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:30pm

I broke down and e-mailed Chevy about how much they suck. I feel a little better.

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by jebmak (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:31pm

Wow, that was terrible.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:32pm

nice pancake block on a seahawks LB. i can't believe i'm sober enough to spot it.

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by Shaun (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:33pm

Live blog updates from tony homo . com during the game. Pretty funny. Click my name for link

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:34pm

re: 44
I don't know, it made sense to me. Recievers like Holt will drop fewer balls, simply because he drops to the ground if any safety is within 10 yds of him when he catches the ball. Owens tries to set up the YAC when he catches the ball, and thus drops it more often.

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:36pm

I want Jerry Rice and Emmett Smith in the new "Grease"

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:41pm

"November rhythym" is the new swagger.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:43pm

witten fumbles. somehow refs forget to rule it incomplete. ;)

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:45pm

if Bill bellichick was Dallas's HC, you would have seen an all-day dose of 3,4,5 WR set taking advantage of the depleted Seahawks secondary.

having said that, either the secondary is playing out of their skins or Tony Romo is not throwing well enough to his receivers

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:50pm

This is not an inspiring game.

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:51pm

Madden glossed over Ray Rhodes' stroke like it was refinancing a mortgage or getting new tires. "He was defensive co-ordiantor, then he went and had a stroke, and he is back in a different role."

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by Chris S (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:52pm

53. You mean "HC of the DC"?

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by kleph (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 10:58pm

ok, al's pronounciation of "new or-lee-anns" grates my very soul. hasn't the city suffered enough?

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by Goober King (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:03pm

Since when does Carol Burnett play for the Cowboys?

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:08pm

Two holding penalties on 3rd down, two dropped INTs, are Dallas trying to beat themselves?

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:09pm

terence newman drops awful hasselbeck fade pass in the end zone. wtf is going on today? can anyone play well?

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:09pm

James - back off - that has been our M.O. season long.

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by Shaun (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:13pm

Is Tony Romo really going to the Pro Bowl when Tom Brady isn't?

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:16pm

Jesus, Hasslebeck is bad. Is he injured?

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:16pm

Judging by the number of posts, this game is either uninspiring or unwatchable. Or both.

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by Casey Stengel (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:16pm

Can't anyone here play this game?

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by Tom Kelso (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:17pm

Unless Brady somehow just got traded to the NFC, the two facts are totally unrelated, you realize.

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by Shaun (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:18pm

I do, but it still seems like a travesty... take a spot away from the NFC team or put Brady on the NFC team.

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by brian c (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:19pm

#63 Hasselbeck sure looks nervous in the pocket.

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:22pm

67 - we could all be doing so much more to make sure Brady is properly lauded. So, so much more.

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by Tom Kelso (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:23pm

Like the Pro Bowl really matters? Sigh........

According to NFL.com's GameCenter, Terry Glenn was just tackled after a nine-yard gain by "K. Jennings" of Seattle.

Now, all-time Jeopardy! champ and recent best-selling author Ken Jennings has just moved to Seattle, I understand. Holmgren must be really desperate; no matter how smart the guy is, he can't be ready to be a CB in the playoffs, right?

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:25pm

shouldn't "playoffs...PLAYOFFs" be the only press conference allowed for the coors commercial? at least unless you can get "man, we're talking about practice."

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by Casey Stengel (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:25pm

Can't any of the quarterbacks here play this game?

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by Shaun (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:25pm

Did that ball really just bounce 7 yards off T.O.'s chest?

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by pr9000 (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:26pm

I don't know; I was disappointed with what Coors (or its agency) did with that press conference ... not funny enough, or as funny as I thought it would be.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:27pm

Have to disagree with Madden. That 3rd & 2 is a running down, as it's classic a "maroon zone" situation. The pass was fine (except for the T.O drop), but as four-down situation you absolutely cannot exclude the run.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:27pm

romo hits witten in stride over the top of seattle's craptacular secondary. who told them they were allowed to play competent football? this is wildcard weekend, damnit!

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by Shaun (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:28pm

I know a girl named Kelly Jennings here. I asked her if I could borrow some money when she became a first round draft pick and she just looked at me funny.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:28pm

oh wait. the very next play featured a holding penalty and a hilarious aaron brooks-esque fumble into the third row of the bleachers.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:29pm

Great effort by Creaton, but he should have been dropped.

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:29pm

James - especially with all three time outs left.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:31pm

nice lunge to get into the end zone by crayton. 10-6 cowboys.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:32pm

that's a half. time for a cougar-induced urination break.

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by Jeff (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:38pm

To 57: New Or-Lee-Anns is the accepted pronunciation of the local news media. They choose to stay out of the war over "Naaaawlin's" and "New Or-leans" So I'm not surprised Al Michaels adopted it.

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by kleph (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:41pm

notice madden did not.

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by Independent George (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:45pm

You know, those 'Get your story straight' commercials just never get old.

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:46pm

75: Disagree with you on the pass. I think TO did not see the ball coming and the pass was at an akward grion high level pass and not chest high.

Bad pass.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:47pm

romo just cannot protect the ball when he's hit. kid has a lot to learn next off-season.

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by pr9000 (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:49pm

Another pronunciation pet peeve: the PREE-vent DEE-fense. That's the only time "prevent" is pronounced that way, and it drives me nuts.

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:50pm

86 - I agree he didn't see it, but if he does it is an easy catch. It wasn't that bad a pass.

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:52pm

nice acting by ingram

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by Quinn (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:53pm

terrible call on PI

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:53pm

the refs are clearly trying to make up for their performance in last year's super bow.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:56pm

I'm waiting for the Dennis Green Coors Light "press conference" commercial. I am too tired to think up an amusing example.

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by Rick (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:59pm

re: 88
could always be the pre-VENT de-FENSE

:)

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sat, 01/06/2007 - 11:59pm

Why not throw on 3rd down if you're going to go for it on 4th?

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:01am

Nice ! TD - Hasselbeck to Stevens.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:01am

Really good Seahawks drive for the TD, including two successful 4th & inches plays, both in FG range. Methinks Easterbrook is masturbating right now.

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by kleph (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:03am

does no baking on gameday include 'wake and bake?'

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:03am

hasselbeck to stevens for pretty little td. seahawks apparently NOT already planning out their stripclub shenanigans after the game.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:03am

Oh crap. 93 yd return for Dallas.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:04am

And the Seattle Special Teams hand it straight back. The returner goes 97yds untouched.

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:04am

Props to Madden for saying "no flags" - that is always the first thing on my mind.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:04am

oh wait. nevermind.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:05am

Oh I see Madden, all you have to do to get a 93 yd KO return is "slide the wedge to the left" I shoulda thought of that before.

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by navin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:05am

Actually Easterbrook advocates kicking early, going for it late--except for when he changes his no mind for no apparent reason.

Seattle, you're at home and losing, you've got nothing to lose, go for it!

OR

Seattle, you're at home and losing, kick the field goal to get within one, you have plenty of time to go for it later.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:07am

I thought Michaels said 93 yd return, but no matter.

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by pr9000 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:07am

94 -- You've given me my man law for the day.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:12am

Nice catch by FO favorite Hackett. Only 4 yards, but still a nice catch.

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:26am

I didn't see an angle that showed his foot on the line. Not sure what Al Michaels is talking about.

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by Lou (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:27am

nice tip and pick their by the cowboys. michaels said he thinks it was oob, but i dont see foot on white

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by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:27am

#102

Agreed.

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by Rick (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:31am

So I'm looking at the box score, and apparently the Seahawks have a RB named "Maurice Morris". Please let it be true that he pronounces his first name as the English do!

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by kleph (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:33am

rather than the way steve miller does?

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by Rick (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:34am

re: 113
yeah, Steve Miller pronounces it like a Frenchman would. The English find new pronunciations for all sorts of things to avoid sounding French.

Did you know "filet" is pronounced "fill it"?

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:34am

What ever happened to the good old fashioned QB sneak?

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by Stereochemistry (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:34am

112: In high school I knew a guy with the name Thomas Thomas...offically the III

Which makes sense in a perpetual spiral of bitterness and hatred sort of way.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:40am

Whew. That's a big penalty.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:40am

pass int on newman in the end zone. even seattle can't screw this up..... ok. maybe they can.

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:41am

Ladies and Gentleman, your first complete BS pass interference call of the playoffs!

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:42am

Good replay by NBC. He defintely grabbed his arm way early.

121
by Moridin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:42am

They might want to try blocking Ware if they are going to run towards him.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:43am

The QB sneak would have served the Seahawks well on 1st & goal from the 1. Instead they try to run outside and lose 7.

They now have 4th & goal at the 1, and a decision to make. Seahawks going for it, call a play pass and don't get it.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:43am

#119. Holy simultaneous opposing viewpoints. :-)

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:43am

Well, that was unusually ugly.

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:44am

That PI called looked BS initially, but was right on.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:44am

seattle goes for the td on fourth down. holmgren calls some sort of awful drop-back pass. incomplete. is there one team playing today that isn't deeply flawed?

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:45am

what the hell just happened?

128
by Moridin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:45am

WTF was THAT?!

129
by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:45am

I DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT I JUST SAW

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by kleph (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:45am

i think dallas might want to challenge that.

131
by Rick (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:45am

Is there something wrong with taking a field goal? With 7 minutes left in the game, was it really a good idea for Holmgren to go for a TD?

I'm thinking not. (Not hindsight - I thought this before the snap.)

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by lk6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:45am

LOL

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:46am

Okay, which Seahawk fan just sold his soul?

134
by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:46am

Man both these teams are terrible.

135
by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:47am

Wow. TD Seahawks? The catch looked fine so the ball is live, but is it recovered?

Indisputable visual evidence might be a problem here.

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by Rick (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:47am

It sure is fun watching a feed that's on a delay. I read the call for a challenge before I saw the play. :)

137
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:47am

I think the ball bounced in the white paint before it was recovered, therefore it was out of bounds and the play was over before Seattle recovered.

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by Quinn (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:47am

I don't think it's a catch, I definitely think that the ball went out before Boulware had it and I don't think that Boulware had possession. So it will probably be a Seattle TD.

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:47am

the ball hits the ground, Glenn never had control of it. INC

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by Moridin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:48am

Well, the guy who signaled a touchdown was about 2 feet away and didn't say it went out, so...

141
by B (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:49am

It's definitely a catch and fumble. From there, who knows.

142
by Quinn (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:49am

Tatupu's definitely out of bounds when he touches it.

143
by Moridin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:50am

Damn, I wanted that to stand just because of its sheer rediculousness.

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by kleph (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:50am

the vodafone music is the PERFECT accompanyment to the replay.

145
by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:50am

Damn it. A safety. I wanted OT and Hasselbeck to win the coin toss and say something stupid.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:50am

So the upshot of the last 5 minutes or so is that instead of being down 4, Seattle are down 5, but should have slightly better field position.

Now if Seattle get a TD they'll have to go for 2.

147
by Rick (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:51am

Well, a safety is almost as good as a field goal.

I hope the Seahawks lose by one point.

148
by Dave (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:52am

nate burleston has the instincts of a great kick returner and the execution of a poor kick returner. its not a good combo.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:54am

2-Point time.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:54am

stevens with a nice TD. right over - SHOCKER - roy williams.

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by John (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:54am

When I saw how wide open he was, I honestly expected Stevens to drop it. This has turned into a pretty exciting game.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:54am

If they get the 2 pt conversion here, we can still have the return of loudmouth coin toss Hasselebeck.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:54am

If they get the 2 pt conversion here, we can still have the return of loudmouth coin toss Hasselebeck.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:55am

So this is why Holmgren didn't take the FG. It was all part of his master plan, ye of so little faith.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:55am

Oh well.

156
by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:55am

The 2-point attempt was a clusterfudge.

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by Register allocation (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:55am

How to make a 2-point conversion:
1) If you're going to pass, do not fall back to the 20 yard line.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:56am

a fittingly shit-tastic failed 2-pt conversion.

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by B (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:56am

That was the worst executed two point conversion I've ever seen . Who sprints backwards 20 yards to turn 2 yard play into a Hail Mary?

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by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:58am

Hasslebeck didn't really have a choice other than to run backwards, as pressure was coming from both sides.

It's a 2 point try, a sack gives you no chance at scoring while lobbing it into traffic in the endzone at least maintains the possibility of the conversion. If you have to run back 20 yards before you toss your prayer, so be it

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:58am

It looks like Tony Romo Time.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:59am

anyone else move from just beer to like ridiculously strong whiskey-and-cokes recently? sober is no way to get through this game!

163
by Quinn (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:59am

It's too bad Vanderjagt was released.

164
by Rick (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:59am

Are Al Michaels and John Madden talking about Perry Como because his name rhymes with Tony Romo?

165
by Joshua (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:01am

Can they just give a loss to both teams and let someone else play the Saints?

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by Rick (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:02am

re: 160
could Hassleback have tried a drop kick PAT? (Anybody know the rules here?)

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:02am

162. I just stopped drinking. But I like your idea better. :-)

168
by Anger...rising (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:03am

Is there something wrong with taking a field goal? With 7 minutes left in the game, was it really a good idea for Holmgren to go for a TD?

I’m thinking not.

Going for it from the one is virtually always the right play -- really the only exceptions are when a late field goal would give you the lead or extend your lead to two possessions -- because 1) the probability of making it is high and 2) if you fail, you pin the opposition on the goal line, making safeties, defensive touchdowns or a short field following a punt very likely. When you trail by seven with 7:00 left, the choice becomes even more obvious, because a field goal still leaves you in need of a touchdown.

Well, a safety is almost as good as a field goal.

I hope the Seahawks lose by one point.

You do realize that down by five with the ball at midfield is better than down by four with the ball in the opposition's hands, right?

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:03am

Mugged by the Draw. Somewhere, Doug Farrar is sobbing quietly.

170
by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:04am

Will Parcells be let down by yet another FG kicker?

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by Anger...rising (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:06am

Terrible spot.

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by Rick (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:06am

re: 168
sure, the safety was better for Seattle than a FG would have been.
Are you arguing that this was a planned result?

My annoyance is based on Holmgren passing on an easy FG and getting lucky by getting a safety. I don't like seeing bad coaching rewarded.

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by Quinn (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:06am

There's no way he made the first down.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:06am

Dallas get the 1st. Why on earth didn't Seattle let them score? Now Dallas can kneel and it's academic.

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by johnt (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:06am

While Michaels babbles about the first down, there's NO WAY he got that first down.

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by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:08am

There's no way the ball crossed the 1 yard line.

Good review.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:09am

4th down! dallas has to kick the fg. game on.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:09am

Seattle get an ENOURMOUS break. Game on.

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by Moridin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:09am

HAHAHAHAHAHA

180
by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:09am

HOLY SHIT

181
by Quinn (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:10am

um, wow

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:10am

HOLY SHIT!!!!!

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:10am

I repeat. Both these teams are terrible.

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by B (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:10am

Oh My God!

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by kleph (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:10am

today is the feast of ephiphany so i guess it's a good day for gifts.

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by Trogdor (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:10am

AWESOME!!!

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by John (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:10am

Ri COCK ulous

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by andrew (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:10am

OMG

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by johnt (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:10am

Ladies and gentlemen, NFC Pro Bowler Tony Romo.

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by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:11am

Seriously how fucking amazing was Babineaux on that play, running Romo down from behind, and diving to grab Romo's feet, keeping him out of the endzone

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:11am

game decided by fumbled snap and awful scramble to the left by romo. high comedy.

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:11am

Holy Romo.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:11am

What if Dallas gets a safety here.... never mind...

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by Rick (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:11am

This game is threatening to destroy all my love for good football that was cultivated by watching the last half hour of the Fiesta Bowl.

Ugly.

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by Kuato (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:11am

What a really exciting ending to this game. I thought for sure Romo was getting 7 for his team. Crazy!

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by B (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:11am

It was convenient of Romo to fumble the ball a second time, cause he crossed the first down marker.

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by Moridin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:12am

You know, that would've been even more funny if Grammatica had pulled a Charlie Brown fall following Romo's Lucy impression.

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by Stereochemistry (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:12am

Forget the endzone, he was half a yard from getting a first down

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by Rick (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:12am

OK, now let's see a DALLAS SAFETY!

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by Kadomony (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:12am

Is it just me, or did it look like Romo had the first and was down by contact?

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:12am

196 - he was down well before the 1. Way to pile on though.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:12am

I dunno. Did Romo get close to that first down. It kinds looked like the ground caused the fumble. I don't know what was ruled or if if the spot was short. Anyway who cares, both these teams are terrible.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:12am

You know -- Romo didn't fumble. He was tripped by a defender and "fumbled" when it hit the ground. However, since he didn't make the first down, it didn't matter.

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by Tom Kelso (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:13am

And that cracking sound you hear is Dallas' back being broken. God, what a way to lose.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:13am

babineaux made a nice tackle. but romo looked like he learned his scrambling technique from drew "my two left feet" bledsoe.

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by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:13am

A shot of Bledsoe consoling Romo would be beautiful right now.

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by jeff t (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:14am

re:106

That was a great play by Babineaux. Remember, Romo could have earned the first down by getting to the 1. He didn't have to score.

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by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:14am

By the way, pretty subpar block attempt by gramattica on the botched FG.

209
by Joshua (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:14am

Tony Romo Just Wins Games...

(oh, wait that was my November Autotext)

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:15am

Remember Jason's Eli Manning cartoon, "Adventures of a Number 1 Draft Pick"?

"The ghost of Vanderjagt still haunts the Cowboys, feasting on the organs of kickers!"

The game was worth staying up for, if only for the last few minutes. And does Romo's "clutch" rating go into the tank because he cocks the snap up?

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by Anger...rising (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:15am

sure, the safety was better for Seattle than a FG would have been. Are you arguing that this was a planned result?

No, I'm arguing that the probability of scoring from the one-and-a-half, plus the probability of scoring on a safety, defensive touchdown, blocked punt or with the benefit of a short field should the fourth down attempt fail is greater than the probability of getting a defensive stop and driving down for a touchdown after having kicked a field goal.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:16am

Seattle should definitely punt out of bounds...

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by John (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:16am

going back to an earlier discussion, I think Seattle going for it instead of kicking the field go was absolutely the right thing to do.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:16am

What odds on a blocked punt?

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by Lou (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:17am

well within hail mary distance

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by Moridin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:17am

Oh god, my dream of a botched punt snap was almost realized.

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:17am

Wow. What a bad break for the punter.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:17am

Dammit, does anybody want to win this game?

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by andrew (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:17am

Prediction: TO drops this

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by Joshua (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:18am

Game over.

Thanks for playing, Dallas.

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:18am

ROMO'S WALK OF SHAME.
PRICELESS.

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by Moridin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:18am

I feel alittle bad for Romo, but at least now the TO hype is gone.

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by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:19am

I'm a steelers fan living in Seattle, so I don't really care how this game ends, but damn that was exciting.

I didn't plan on going out, but I might have to go hit the bars tonight cause I suspect it'll be crazy

224
by andrew (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:19am

This playoff victory was as well deserved as the Chief's postseason berth.

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:19am

if you had one word to describe this game, what would it be?
mine would be "fagatini"

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by johnt (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:20am

Not to take away from Romo's crapfest, but if Gramatica actually tries to block Babineaux instead of shoving ineffectually at him with an arm Romo might have gotten the first.

227
by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:20am

Seven-and-a-half quarters of mediocre football redeemed themselves spectacularly.

228
by kleph (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:20am

i'm with russell from the first post, i can't wait to read what mike tanier has to say about this game.

229
by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:20am

That was great. Not only did the Cowflops lose, they lost in what might have been the stupidest way possible. I'll watch thousands of GMC commercials to enjoy this again.

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by Rick (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:20am

re: 211

Well, most of the contigencies you list would have had what we would call "vanishingly small" probabilities, present outcome notwithstanding. I prefer to model the situation as TD attempt vs. FG attempt. A FG with 7 minutes left would have left plenty of time for a defensive stop and another drive.

If the Seahawks had their O-line from last year, and could have felt confident about simply blasting it in from the 1, then I would have gone for the TD.

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by young curmudgeon (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:22am

anyone remember this many weird kicking problems cropping up in significant situations? Cincinnati, tonight, have there been others? I remember Ypremian in the Super Bowl, but that wasn't decisive, his team won anyway.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:23am

Does Bill Parcells return next year, or does he jump from a bridge before that? If he does come back I expect him to draft a kicker in the 1st round, and a holder in the 2nd.

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by John (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:23am

Re: 226 It's Martin freaking Gramatica. Hell, flailing an arm is a good as you can possibly expect.

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by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:23am

208: Give the guy a break, he's a 165 pound 31 year old soccer castoff who was out of football for a year.

235
by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:24am

#231

The Saints blew a playoff spot with the last kick of their last game 3 seasons ago when they missed an extra point.

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by Luigi (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:24am

I cannot believe the Romo fumble wasn't reviewed. I am certain the replay officials overlooked the possibility of a first down on the play and figured it didn't matter.

237
by Joshua (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:24am

230,

You are ignoring the most underrated aspect of football--field position. This is not a TD/FG scenario. If you don't get the TD, you give the opponent the ball on their ONE YARD LINE! The only time you kick it is if it gives you the lead or extends your lead to two possessions. Nuff said.

238
by B (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:25am

I didn't think it was possible, but Coors Light just ruined my favorite moment of Jim Mora's career.

239
by John (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:27am

Re 236 he was a yard short of the first. it wasn't close. It looked close on the initial camera angels, but replays of the play showed him to be well short.

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by Anger...rising (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:28am

Well, most of the contigencies you list would have had what we would call “vanishingly small� probabilities, present outcome notwithstanding.

"Vanishingly small"? A tackle for loss, turnover or three-and-out can't be considered that unlikely.

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by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:28am

231, 235: Click my name for a video of the ridiculous play, affectionately known as the River City Relay.

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by kevinNYC (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:29am

#231... The 2002 Giants losing in San Fran say hello!

I say screw Trey Junkin.

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by Sophandros (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:30am

Wow. You've got to feel for Tony Romo right now.

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by Pat (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:32am

Wow. You’ve got to feel for Tony Romo right now.

My wife said she can't feel bad for him ever since he did a little-girl slide ten yards in front of an Eagle defender two weeks ago.

245
by Sophandros (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:33am

Oh, by the way, I'm SO pulling for the Giants tomorrow.

246
by Paulo Sanchotene, RS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:34am

I'm just a 26 years old brazilian lawyer, Giants fan, that loves football. It's 2:30AM and I can't sleep. I can't type. I'm still shaking!

And there are two more games tomorrow!

Dá-lhe!

247
by Chris S (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:35am

re 238: It's true. What made this campaign work was use of footage from otherwise forgettable press conferences. The fact that we all remember this freakout makes this commerical worse, not better.

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by Luigi (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:36am

Re 239: Whether it was a 1st down or not isn't the point. that play HAS to be reviewed. I am truly astonished.

249
by Kevin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:37am

If Dallas had someone other than a flying Grammatica, it would have been interesting to see if Parcells would have tried the 60yd free kick. After today I believe anything can happen in this year's playoffs.

250
by Eddo (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:38am

248:
The booth official is looking at every replay. If he sees that a play is not close, the play won't be reviewed. In this case, the play was not close enough for a review.

251
by John (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:38am

Re 248 Why does it have to be reviewed? If it's not close, there's no point. you didn't see parcells complaining about it.

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by the K (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:38am

That was one of the most wild games I can ever remember seeing. Ugly or not, it was a pleasure to watch.

As an extra, I'd like to say the Mora Coors Light commercial is also one of the most wild things I can ever remember seeing.

253
by BlueStarDude (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:39am

God, I hate football.

254
by Sophandros (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:41am

249: IIRC, the free kick can only be used on a fair catch, not on a kick that goes out of bounds.

Also, why didn't Terry Glenn put forth ANY effort on the Ave Maria?

255
by Luigi (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:43am

Re 250, 251: Well, to me it certainly looks close enough, but I guarantee you the replay officials, Parcells, and Michaels & Madden all got caught up in the excitement overlooked the possibility of a first down.

256
by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:45am

T.O. is being mature in his press conference, refusing to pin the blame on anyone for the loss. What is this bullshit?

257
by Paulo Sanchotene, RS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:45am

A fantastic finish for a terrible game. That's playoffs. You must just love it...

258
by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:46am

How blatant would P.I. on a Hail Mary have to be? I am not saying there was, just hypothetical-like....

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by John (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:46am

Re: 255

I don't think so. it wasn't ruled a fumble on the field. The spotted the ball and it was short.

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:47am

255 - maybe Madden and Michaels, but not Parcells.

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by Eddo (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:47am

255:
That's a pretty cynical view of the replay officials. Madden, Michaels, even Parcells--I can see them getting caught up in the excitement. But the replay official has one job to do, so I trust that he saw the play and determined that no review was necessary.

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by Paulo Sanchotene, RS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:48am

Re: 236What fumble? The FG attempt? Not even close. He needed to carry the ball to the 1-yard line...

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by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:52am

This game was so poorly played that Jerramy Stevens looked like a Pro Bowler.
Nuff Said. What a weird day of football.

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by asg (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:53am

247: But 90% of football fans probably don't remember it. It sticks in our minds because it's a running joke in NFL commentary, but most people don't read NFL commentary.

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by Drew Bledsoe (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:54am

Bwahahaha!

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by Trogdor (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:54am

Re: 1, 228, etc:

I can't speak for Mike Tanier. But if it was me, here's approximately what I would say.

I wrote that your team isn't very good and has a lot of injuries. That's still true. I wrote that Dallas wasn't very good either, and there are a few ways Seattle could win. No problem there. I wrote that it was unlikely. Hey, it happened. Great. Congrats, go celebrate.

But if you expect me to apologize for picking against your crappy team, there's no chance of that happening. I'm sorry that none of our advanced metrics account for Seattle's magical ability to make opponents fumble the snaps of easy game-winning kicks, I guess. Or maybe not. Basically we just watched one mediocre team out-suck another one. Hardly the SPANKing predicted way up top.

But hey, a win's a win. And they get to play next week, and I'll pick against them again. For now, enjoy it, go wank or whatever it is you do. But I don't think I'll ever apologize for picking against a pile of crap like the Seahawks in the playoffs.

But that's just me.

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by Luigi (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:55am

261: In every game I've seen this year, in the final 2 minutes of a half, any play that was even slightly questionable was reviewed by the booth official. As the play was happening, EVERYONE forgot there was the possibility of a first down.

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by Chris Owen (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:56am

In the very last shot of Romo walking off the field, there was a sign clearly visible in the background that read "Another Romo Fumble." A prescient sign, to be sure, but if you saw the Detroit game, you really weren't surprised to see the ball fall out of Romo's hands like that.

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:58am

267 - I didn't sitting on my couch, so I am going to give the replay official and Parcells the benefit of the doubt. But you seem to know...

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by Pat (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:58am

Well, I know why Dallas lost. It's because they didn't sign Koy Detmer when he was a free agent. And he even lives in Texas, too.

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by John (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:58am

Re 267 I didn't forget. I watched the replay, he was a easily a couple feet short. Dude, let it go already.

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by Eddo (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 2:00am

267:
I agree that any questionable play should be and has been challenged. However, seeing the replay (which I can only assume the booth official has access to--if not, what's the point of having this official), it seems that Romo was clearly short of the first down, and therefore, the play was not questionable enough for a review.

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by navin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 2:01am

Man, Pat--you're really begging for Detmer to botch a hold tomorrow.

274
by Jeremiah (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 2:03am

It looked to me like Glenn(?) had a chance to catch that hail mary, it just sort of fell right in front of him as he stood there dumbfounded.

275
by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 2:19am

What a wild game. First Boise State-OU and then this. I feel great that I was able to watch those two games.

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 2:32am

By the way, on the Roy Williams play, I thought he only got one foot in bounds.

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by NickO (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 3:19am

Even if Romo hadnt droped it then the Hawks would have gotten in field goal range and Josh Brown would have kicked another game winner.

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by The Ninjalectual (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 3:28am

re: Tanier

Some of you are forgetting that a close game like this does NOT mean we can conclude that the Seahawks are a better team, or that the Cowboys suck, or any nonsense like that. The teams essentially played to a tie, and Seattle won on a few crazy, non-repeatable plays. But this is the playoffs, and they don't have to be repeatable.

I like how James in London said it: Seven-and-a-half quarters of mediocre football redeemed themselves spectacularly.

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 3:38am

RE: 48

LOL

I'm reading the invitation stuff.

What's a Live Blog?
A live blog is when somebody, in this case me, updates his blog as an event is going on, in this case our playoff game at Seattle. So as the game unfolds I will be updating this baby instantly. It'll be like watching the game with my hilarious commentary throughout. You will finally understand how lucky my teammates are, because they get to listen to my jokes all game long.

How can you do that from the sidelines?
Blackberry. Homo usually leaves his in his locker so I'll just use it during game time. He won't care about the minutes I use because it'll seem very irrelevant after he gets cut for losing our first playoff game in four years.

What if Parcells comes to his senses by Saturday and you get to play?
If Coach actually wants to win on Saturday and decides to put me in there (hopefully by the fourth quarter so I can have enough time to dig us out of the Homo sized hole) I'll try to blog in between touchdown passes.

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by BillWallace (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 3:40am

I don't think you can fault Gramatica for not getting the block in, due to many factors.

But it's amazing that a playoff game was decided entirely on whether a stunned kicker could have gotten the tiniest bit more of a block on a safety.

Also I'm surprised nobody mentioned the cowboys loss to the skins on even more unbelievable kicking highjinx. They win that game and they win the NFC East. What a tragic season for them, I couldn't be happier.

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by David (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 3:49am

Bill -

They win that game and they tie for the NFC East lead, except Philly still takes the title on head-to-head. They beat the Skins and don't lay that giant egg against the Lions, and then they win the division.

Anyway, yeah, that was amazing. Who'd have thought that Drew Bledsoe's Blog would be prophetic?

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by MFurtek (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 3:49am

BillWallace,
As a fellow Redskin fan... this is enjoyable.

Not to mention beating the Cowboys 3/4 in the past 2 years, and the Cowboys choking down the stretch last year. The Redskins should immediately trade for Jordan Babineaux, who is a Cowboy killer. He had the Bledsoe interception in last years game, and now the shoestring tackle on Mr. Romo.

Reading this thread is hilarious...

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by BillWallace (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 4:02am

You know what else would be hilarious?

A Yakety sax clip montage of various cowboy kicking blunders, TO drops, and Roy Williams getting beat deep.

I would definitely pay money for that.

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by David (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 4:11am

In case anyone somehow missed it, a YouTube of the fumble in question is linked in my name. I love the Internets.

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by MFurtek (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 4:12am

This picture is pretty effin funny.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1748/romouy4.jpg

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by MFurtek (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 4:17am

... what's with the painful losses to the Redskins and Seahawks lately... I don't think Parcells will retire on that note, and I don't think he's fired.

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by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 4:21am

This game disproves DVOA because Seattle won. FACT.

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 4:42am

RE: 190

Seriously how fucking amazing was Babineaux on that play, running Romo down from behind, and diving to grab Romo’s feet, keeping him out of the endzone

More like how amazing was he stopping him from getting to the 1. If he got to the 1 and not the endzone, it's game over. If Homo gets a TD, Seattle still has a chance.

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 5:14am

RE: 196

It was convenient of Romo to fumble the ball a second time, cause he crossed the first down marker.

1)He didn't cross the first down marker.

2)It wasn't a fumble. He was down before he lost the ball.

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by Insancipitory (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 9:10am

Re 99, There will be no stripclub hijinx of anykind in Seattle because we have probably the most draconian "dancing" laws in the States. Voters recently rejected measures to change "probably" to "by far". Now if you wanted to have sex with a gorilla, that was a different story until recently. You used to be able to do that legally, even while drinking a beer. Seattle's pretty puritanical overall. And who really wants to drive all the way down to Portland?

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by kleph (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 9:47am

re 266: trogdor, needs more funny.

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by Smeghead (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 10:59am

Apologies if I missed this comment somewhere in the thread ... I wasn't anywhere near a computer during the game. On the sequence before the field goal, Seattle was spending its time outs. Because of the weirdness of the Witten pass -- the delay finishing the play, and making the spot, the time to decide to review it -- the clock ran all the way down to 1:19. Here's the sequence from NFL.com's gamebook:

2-10-SEA11 (2:00) M.Barber right guard to SEA 8 for 3 yards (J.Babineaux, J.Peterson).
3-7-SEA8 (1:53) T.Romo pass short right to J.Witten to SEA 1 for 7 yards (L.Tatupu, J.Peterson). Play Challenged by Review Assistant and REVERSED. T.Romo pass short right to J.Witten to SEA 2 for 6 yards (L.Tatupu, J.Peterson).
4-1-SEA9 (1:19) (Field Goal formation) T.Romo FUMBLES (Aborted) at SEA 9, and recovers at SEA 9. T.Romo to SEA 2 for 7 yards (J.Babineaux).

... so I'm wondering whether Seattle was being characteristically inept with the clock when they got distracted, or whether there was a cock up by officials or the clock operator here (and there definitely was a time out; the clock wasn't running when Dallas lined up for the field goal -- YouTube on my name). If it had been a more straightforward play, the Seattle TO should have come around 1:40 at worst, to leave Hasselbeck time to mount a drive. With the way the game ultimately turned out, the extra 20+ seconds could have been decisive.

Anyone catch this? I never heard an explanation.

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by Pat (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 11:01am

Man, Pat–you’re really begging for Detmer to botch a hold tomorrow.

Blasphemy!

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by Smeghead (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 11:07am

Apologies if I missed this comment somewhere in the thread ... I wasn't anywhere near a computer during the game. On the sequence before the field goal, Seattle was spending its time outs. Because of the weirdness of the Witten pass -- the delay finishing the play, and making the spot, the time to decide to review it -- the clock ran all the way down to 1:19. Here's the sequence from NFL.com's gamebook:

2-10-SEA11 (2:00) M.Barber right guard to SEA 8 for 3 yards (J.Babineaux, J.Peterson).

3-7-SEA8 (1:53) T.Romo pass short right to J.Witten to SEA 1 for 7 yards (L.Tatupu, J.Peterson). Play Challenged by Review Assistant and REVERSED. T.Romo pass short right to J.Witten to SEA 2 for 6 yards (L.Tatupu, J.Peterson).

4-1-SEA9 (1:19) (Field Goal formation) T.Romo FUMBLES (Aborted) at SEA 9, and recovers at SEA 9. T.Romo to SEA 2 for 7 yards (J.Babineaux).

So I'm wondering whether Seattle was being characteristically inept with the clock when they got distracted and didn't get around to the timeout until way later, or whether there was a mistake by the game officials and/or clock operator (and there definitely was a time out; the clock wasn't running when Dallas lined up for the field goal). If it had been a more straightforward play, the Seattle TO should have come around 1:40 at worst, to leave Hasselbeck time to mount a drive. With the way the game ultimately turned out, the extra 20+ seconds could have easily been decisive.

Anyone catch this? I never heard an explanation.

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by Hither and Anon (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 11:22am

Apologies if I missed this comment somewhere in the thread ... I wasn't anywhere near a computer during the game. On the sequence before the field goal, Seattle was spending its timeouts. Because of the weirdness of the Witten pass -- the delay finishing the play, and making the spot, the time to decide to review it -- the clock ran all the way down to 1:19.

Was Seattle being characteristically inept with the clock when they got distracted and didn't get around to the timeout for half a minute, or was there a mistake by the game officials and/or clock operator (and there definitely was a time out; the clock wasn't running when Dallas lined up for the field goal). If it had been a more straightforward play, the Seattle TO should have come around 1:40 at worst. With the way the game ultimately turned out, the extra 20+ seconds could have easily been decisive.

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by young curmudgeon (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 12:07pm

I root against the Cowboys and have for years, and I'm glad Seattle won this game. However, I hope that the fumbled snap at the end of the game doesn't haunt Romo and ruin his career. Yes, I disliked how over-hyped he was when he first took over for Bledsoe, but that's not exactly his fault. I like the idea of a guy coming in from Eastern Illinois and succeeding at QB in the NFL, although, since he's a Cowboy, I'd prefer that success to be somewhat limited. But, just out of human sympathy, I do hope he comes back from this.

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 1:48pm

Hither - I am a Cowboy fan, so I was a little distracted, but I thought that a good chunk of clock went into a vortex there as well. There must be a simple explanation that I missed.

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by Insancipitory (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 2:06pm

Because the Seahawks called a timeout after the ruling on the field changed they apparently and fortunately lost the 20 odd seconds. Probably something about not being able to argue about the timeout you would have called. Where you can be awarded a timeout back in the reverse of the situation. (Calling the timeout first, booth review overturns the play. AFAIK at least.) From my perspective in the stands it appeared as if Holmgren was trying to argue for the time back with the officals. For once I'm glad they didn't listen to him. :)

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by thad (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 2:22pm

that just sucked

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by BillWallace (not verified) :: Sun, 01/07/2007 - 2:53pm