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NFC Championship Game Discussion

This thread is for discussion of action on the field before, during, and after the NFC Championship game between New Orleans and Chicago, a.k.a. "The Game People Can Still Discuss in a Reasonable Fashion."


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1
by Alex (not verified) :: Wed, 01/17/2007 - 3:06am

Will Good Rex or Evil Rex show up against New Orleans? I figure that there's a 60% chance of Good Rex in this game. How about everyone else?

Oh...first!

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by dbt (not verified) :: Wed, 01/17/2007 - 12:23pm

80%. He performs well under mental pressure, just not physical.

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by B (not verified) :: Wed, 01/17/2007 - 12:48pm

It doesn't matter which Rex shows up in this game. Neither one can beat Brees in a shootout, and the Bears defense has regressed enough that the Saints will put up 35+ points on them.

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by B (not verified) :: Wed, 01/17/2007 - 3:13pm

There's no way New Orleans can compete with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZnJiesrTGM&eurl=
Saints fans, you're on notice.

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by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Wed, 01/17/2007 - 7:06pm

This game all comes down to how many times the Fred Thomas Torch-o-Meter gets lit up. If Grossman is throwing more than a few balls in the direction of Mike McKenzie/everybody else, Saints geaux to SB XLI

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by B (not verified) :: Fri, 01/19/2007 - 4:01pm

What's the Over/Under on "F*** The Saints" shirt sightings? Considering the weather, I say 1.

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by James C (not verified) :: Fri, 01/19/2007 - 4:03pm

#4

That video is one of the lamest things I have ever seen.

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by Alex (not verified) :: Sat, 01/20/2007 - 5:01am

"80%. He performs well under mental pressure, just not physical."

Good point, although New Orleans is sixth in adjusted sack rate. I'll meet you half way, 70%. So, given that the Bears are 12-0 with Good Rex, and 2-3 with Bad Rex, that gives them about an 82% chance of winning the game. Sounds a bit high to me, but hey, it is a home game, outdoors in cold weather, against a dome team, so maybe not.

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by Paul (not verified) :: Sat, 01/20/2007 - 3:39pm

With Harris missing, the Chicago run defense has to get it together.

Shaun Alexander had a lot of success against them last week, and honestly that is a back who has struggled all year on a team that has greatly struggled to run the ball this year.

If they come out look like they did last week, McCallister and Bush will run all over the Bears' defense.

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by Alex (not verified) :: Sat, 01/20/2007 - 10:15pm

"the NFC Championship game between New Orleans and Chicago, a.k.a. “The Game People Can Still Discuss in a Reasonable Fashion.�"

Hmmm...odd that so few of us choose to discuss this one, as there are 54 posts on the other discussion thread, while this is only the 10th post on this one. I mean, it's not like there isn't anything to discuss: we've got Good Rex vs. Evil Rex, Drew Brees, Reggie Bush, the general Cinderella story of the Saints, Chicago's defense, etc. Yet all the talk is about Pats vs. Colts, Brady vs. Manning. Maybe people just prefer being unreasonable when discussing sports.

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by andy (not verified) :: Sat, 01/20/2007 - 11:13pm

bears D ? who have they played , nobody

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by MizzouBearsfan (not verified) :: Sat, 01/20/2007 - 11:16pm

Re: #3
Guess you didn't watch the Saints play the Ravens, and Bengals where Brees threw 3 interceptions in each game. Had 3 interceptions run back for TDs between the two, and added a fumble lost in each. Then there's the Redskins game where he couldn't do anything against the NFC's last ranked Defense.

Nevermind the fact the Saints haven't beat a top 10 defense all season.

I have a feeling the Bears will come out with a chip on their shoulder, after a whole week of Saints media slobbering and disrespect for the Bears, Clayton was the only person on ESPN that picked us besides Accuscore. btw Accuscore can foretell the Apocalypse, I trust it more than any of the idiots at ESPN.

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by andy (not verified) :: Sat, 01/20/2007 - 11:27pm

still i have to ask , do the bears D deserve the ranking they have

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by MizzouBearsfan (not verified) :: Sat, 01/20/2007 - 11:35pm

#13 - They've struggled lately but they can still be a dominant unit. A lot of the big yardage games against us came when we already the playoff locked up and where installing new schemes. Towards the end of the season our starting corners didn't play together, and a lot of Defensive starters were being rested.

I think the Bears D' will surprise a lot of people that are expecting the Saints to waltz all over them. A lot of Alexanders successful runs came on 2nd, 3rd & long situations on draw plays, where we expected the pass. The Seahawks could not convert a 3rd & short situation in their final three drives with the game tied. The Defense made the critical stops when it counted.

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by andy (not verified) :: Sat, 01/20/2007 - 11:58pm

they struggled lately b/c they played better teams.
how can they defend bush, duece, colsten, henderson, and horn.

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by Alex (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 12:26am

"Clayton was the only person on ESPN that picked us besides Accuscore. btw Accuscore can foretell the Apocalypse, I trust it more than any of the idiots at ESPN."

Accuscore also predicted that Arizona would be a force to be reckoned with this season, so I think it's safe to conclude that Accuscore can only be trusted when it makes predictions about the Bears.

What is Accuscore?

p.s: #15 is lying.

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by Alex (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 12:28am

Sorry, meant #17.

Like Accuscore, I always tell the truth.

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by Alex (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 12:37am

#15: "they struggled lately b/c they played better teams."

I'm not so sure. TB, Detroit, and Green Bay? Offensive DVOAs of 30, 26, and 20, respectively. I think there might just be another explanation. Sorry about calling you a liar, though.

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by milo (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 2:05am

Mizzou: Let's compare dogs. Brees (vs. Cinci) 37 of 52 for 510yds., 2 TD, 3 INT, 91 rating vs Grossman (vs. Min) 6 of 19 for 34yds., 0 TD, 3 INT, 1.3 rating. Now to some people this is like walking on a strange, dark alley and coming upon a rottweiler and a chihuahua. They are both dogs, but one inspires fear and one inspires ......

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by MizzouBearsfan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 2:18am

Lol Brees only threw for 510 yards cause his team was getting blown out, and he had to play catch up.

Grossman stunk it up the Minny game, but guess what? his team WON the game, and that's all that matters.

that speaks of volumes about the Bears team. They can over come bad QB play and still win games.

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by milo (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 2:42am

Your confidence would be appropriate if you were playing against Brad Johnson tomorrow. He's a porch dog.

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by TomC (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 10:11am

re: 19-21 -

Conclusions based on two games picked at random? Answered by: "Rex just wins"? Ugh, am I really on FO?

How about this for a not-yet-discussed-to-death angle? Remember the 1st half of the Bears' Monday nighter against Arizona? Cardinals WRs were sitting down in the underneath zones and catching 5-10-yard quick-hitters from Leinart before any pressure could get to him. Then some really lousy Bears tackling turned a few of those into long gains. Brees is one of the best in the league at avoiding pressure and finding that underneath guy, and the Saints WRs are either big or elusive enough to present a tackling problem. If I'm Sean Payton, I nickel-and-dime the Bears until they show they can stop it (which they never did in Arizona; Denny just let them off the hook).

Of course, I'm a Bears fan, so I hope this doesn't happen.

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by John (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 10:43am

Quick note to prepare for the possibility of a Chicago-Indy Super Bowl:

If that should arise, Dungy would not be the 2nd black coach to reach the Super Bowl, after Lovie Smith. Either one could be fired, or have some other life-altering change occur, between now and the Super Bowl, so they both "reach" it at the same time, in two weeks.

That's all, you may return to your regularly-scheduled discussions.

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by Jimmy6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 11:08am

I love how people reference the Minny game like it actually wasn't played in a gale force wind.

It's snowing for anyone who cares.

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by Fnor (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 2:00pm

While I won't be around, I am sure some people will be hanging out on IRC for the games, on server bendenweyr.dyndns.org in channel #FO.

Go everyone who isn't the Patriots.

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by mb (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 2:41pm

Andy: When the Bears defense was healthy, they blanked Green Bay at Lambeau (yes, I know that the Packers weren't very good but a shutout is impressive in any NFL game), shutout the Jets at the Meadowlands, and held the Patriots to 14 at Foxboro. Even the bad games were largely attributable to multiple TOs by the offense (i.e. the Arizona game where Rex turned the ball over 6 times and the Bears still held the Cardinals to 23 even with numerous short fields and a decided disadavantage in TOP). There is a stark dropoff that coincides exactly with Tommie Harris being injured, which may be looked at as the straw that broke the camel's back. Can you tell me what would happen if any defense lost it's 2 best players, both Pro Bowlers, and both in the top 5 in the league at their position? Also, as was previously pointed out, none of the teams they have played since that Vikings game where Harris was injured (STL,TB, Det, GB, Seattle) are exactly offensive juggernauts, except possibly the Rams. So yes, they may not be the #1 or 2 defense in the NFL right now, but it's because of injuries not because they weren't dominant early in the season (if you'll recall, they were ranked #1 in DVOA, and #1 in points allowed if you prefer that, for the majority of the season).

TomC: Yes, the tackling was terrible in the Arizona game, but every team since then has at least tried that approach of using rollouts and a short passing game. The Bears tackling was very good up until the injuries in the secondary and it's been pretty average since. Also, there isn't nearly as much of a need for opponents to fear the pass rush without Tommie Harris, so it's not as necessary to get the ball out a QBs so quickly. I don't doubt that the Saints will use a short and mid range passing attack, but I also don't think Sean Payton will just try to nickel and dime the Bears to the exclusion of using other weapons.

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by NF (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 3:02pm

What's the worst case scenario for Rex Grossman?

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by MizzouBearsfan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 3:12pm

#27
Whatever it is we won't see it today, the Saints Defense was second to last in the league in generating turnovers. They don't have the type of Defense that can take advantage of turnover opportunities. In the Eagles game I saw McKenzie go for 2 picks and miss, and I saw Josh Bullocks drop 2 picks..

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by Lou (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 3:21pm

Any other Bears fans worried about the snow? Remember the game against the Steelers last year when Old Man Bettis ran all over us with a series of screens and draws to take advantage of the Bears overpursuit/slower change of direction in the snow? I expect to see the Saints run plenty of those today. Hopefully the Bears are ready for it.

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by Jeff (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 3:23pm

This is going to be a difficult game for me. I grew up in the Chicago area, but I now live in New Orleans. I had no idea that my loyalties would have to be tested! There's no way to have a tie, is there? It might be alright for the Saints to lose, because then I wouldn't have to hear people starting the "Who Dat" chant in every public place at all hours of the frickin' day. Idiots.

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by MizzouBearsfan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 3:34pm

Joe Horn is reported to be OUT for the game today. One less option for the Bears to defend...

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by Tampa Bay Mike (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 3:40pm

STOMPS & DOMINATES:
NE - 7
IND - 5
CHI - 7
NO - 6

Looks pretty even. NE has the slight edge on IND though.

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 4:17pm

Did someone see ESPN's crew forecast for the Saints-Bears game?

All 8 Analysts are predicting a saints win!

NOW., that is called Disrespect with a Capital "D"

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 4:25pm

I wish the media would shut up about black coaches and black QBs.

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 4:32pm

RE: 9

Harris was much more of an impact in the passing game than the running game.

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by mb (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 4:38pm

Sid: I don't necessarily agree with that. Harris is great at getting pressure as a DT but he also demanded a double team pretty frequently. Even if he didn't impact the running game quite as much he soaked up blockers, meaning there were less for the LBs to shed, and in general he disrupted every opponents' game plans to the point where they had to specifically account for him even when they weren't passing. His backups don't require nearly as much attention.

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by Reinhard (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 4:40pm

Here's something on NFL.com which I found interesting when looking at it from an FO angle:

The Bears linebackers don't blitz much, but Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs now have 87 tackles of two yards or less per tackle.

This is a useful stat, as well as one which the public doesn't have readily available. But it isnt really put into context...

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by johnt (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 4:46pm

Is Joe Buck wearing lipstick???

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:02pm

And so it begins....

And ens at around 2:30am UK time (assuming no OT). If I had the brains I was born with I'd have booked a half-day at work tomorrow. Oh well.

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by Register Allocation (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:05pm

BTW, House's dark secret? He likes teddy bears.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:08pm

Nice catch by Henderson

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by Randy S. (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:08pm

That was a good adjustment by Henderson there.

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:09pm

James (38): hear hear

however can only share my sympathies as it is 1:30 AM here and with the Pats - Colts game on television at 5 AM ... non-stop football action in India!

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:11pm

sack on 3rd down at opp 30 is not a great way to start conf title game

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by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:12pm

Alright, so this first drive showed us that both the Saints have a big-play offense and that the Bears defense is still really good otherwise.

The Bears and the Saints are who we thought they were, basically.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:12pm

I'm missing the game right now because I tried to turn from "Blue's Clues" and my 2-year-old had a meltdown. On the other hand, I can't hear the Fox announcers insist that I root for the Saints, so I guess it's a wash.

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by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:17pm

Free Adrian Peterson!

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by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:18pm

Did one of the announcers just say Mark Anderson was the Bears best DE?

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by Not saying (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:19pm

If Mark Anderson is the Bear's best defensive end, why isn't he starting and playing most of the time in every game?

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by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:20pm

Wow... how many people had a chance to pick up that one?

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by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:20pm

Just fall on the football. I don't want to sound like TMQ, but...

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by Independent George (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:21pm

#49 - that's the problem - they tried to pick it up instead of diving on it.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:22pm

Good Rex, Evil Rex, Reggie Bush, Fred Thomas, Tommy Harris, all these things have been analysed.

Has anybody considered the state of the field on the result?

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by MizzouBearsfan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:22pm

Brees is in for a long day unless someone decides to start blocking for him.

Anderson, Ogunleye, Tank all day baby!

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:22pm

25-yard sack to #97 Anderson

sounds very strange!

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by MizzouBearsfan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:23pm

48, he's our best pure PASS RUSHER, not an every down DE yet.

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by brian c (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:23pm

Why is the nfc championship
being played unsuitable for junior football?

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:23pm

Nick Halling has just pointed out that Tillman is playing on Colston, regardless of where Colston lines up.

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by DoubleB (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:23pm

That last play was a mistake by the back. Basic slide protection and the back went the wrong way.

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by Phil (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:23pm

What would you really do? Would you fall on it when it looked like you had a clear path to the end zone in a playoff game?

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:24pm

Fred Thomas lives!

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by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:24pm

Fred Thomas 1 Rex 0

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by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:24pm

That would've been an amazing interception if Bullocks caught that.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:25pm

Second 3 & Out for the Bears.

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by Not saying (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:25pm

That fumble showed both that there is incredible luck involved in where the ball bounces and that it takes skill and smarts to take advantage of the luck when it falls to you.

Also, I'm wondering how long it will take this thread to surpass the AFC one.

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by Independent George (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:26pm

I think the fumble luck theory should be adjusted for teams that used to play with Aaron Brooks. The Saints just have so much more experience with diving on a backwards pass than the Bears D.

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by Register Allocation (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:26pm

#59
Yeah, when there's a player from the other team that close, you fall on it.

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by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:27pm

This Dodge Mech commercial is incredibly stupid.

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by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:27pm

ALL I WANTED WAS A PEPSI
JUST ONE PEPSI
AND SHE WOULDN'T GIVE IT TO ME

Yes, I know we've used that joke already.

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by Phil (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:29pm

I know what you should do. But I'm asking who here, can honestly say they wouldn't take a shot of picking it up if they think they have a shot at making it to the end-zone.

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by Not saying (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:29pm

How can Aikman say with certainty what the left tackle was supposed to do on the replay? Does he get special footage with the line calls on them?

It looked like there was confusion as to who was to do what, as I think three people blocked the DT and none the DE. But I can't say for sure who messed up from a video.

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by 28 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:29pm

Anyone notice that the booing started after the FIRST play run by the Bears offense?

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by DoubleB (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:31pm

Re: 70

I can't say for sure, but I think Bush was supposed to go to the left on that play. It looked like basic slide protection (line goes one way, back the other) for a 3-step drop.

That being said Bush vs. DE isn't a great matchup, so maybe Aikman's right.

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:31pm

evil rex sighting? Rex Grossman is 0/4 in the first 2 drives

The good news? No INTs in those drives

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by Independent George (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:32pm

Beautiful fingertip catch by Bush on that 3rd and 2. That was more impressive than some of his cuts.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:32pm

Dammit, you always got to maintain ball security.

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by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:33pm

Wow, another fumble. If the Saints lose, the analysts will not shut up about how they never practiced outside.

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by Mike J (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:34pm

Its really quiet astounding how for all the talk the conditions are obviously getting to the Saints.

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by paytonrules (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:34pm

Bears defense sighting! Fumbles!!!

Now if Rex can actually complete a pass given the field position...

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by black (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:34pm

Ball security is overrated?

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by MizzouBearsfan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:34pm

This is over, the Saints look intimidated, they can't hang with Da Bears.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:34pm

If the Saints can hold the ball, they've shown they can move it.

End-around (which Aikman just called a reverse) by the Bears on 3rd Down. Have they been stealing from the Saints playbook?

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by 28 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:35pm

#70

I'm guessing that as a former NFL quarterback he has enough knowledge of blocking schemes to recognize when a LT is supposed to block a DE.

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by Chris Heinonen (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:35pm

OK, that comparison about the Saints vs. Bears historically helps to emphasize that the Bears have won more, but that a more apt comparison had both teams started at the same time, instead of the Bears starting decades earlier. Maybe that only annoyed me, however.

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by Randy S. (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:36pm

It's a McKie sighting! I would not have known he existed without that TDZ article.

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by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:36pm

Go For It

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:36pm

Good stand by the Saints D. First big decision for Lovie Smith. I'd go for it.

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by Jeff (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:36pm

I hate Joe Buck.

And it's an "End Around" not a reverse, there's no direction change.

Saints D seems to be having trouble tackling.

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by Shields, UK (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:38pm

Was that second down play the play shown in Too Deep Zone? Pass to the fullback in the flat?

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:38pm

Yes, Troy, we understand. Now shut the hell up.

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by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:39pm

I really hate Joe Buck.

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by Jeff (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:39pm

RE: 83

I thought that was a dumb comparison too, without a qualifier about the time frame.

We should compare the Packers to the Texans next.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:39pm

Why no penalty?

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by Compucrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:40pm

Evil Rex shows up again. Gunna have to win on Benson's shoulders.

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:40pm

You don't have to take my word for it that he's a better pass rusher than run-stopper. Just look at the stats.

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by anotherangle (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:41pm

RE: first fumble
Though I understand the frustration with not recovering fumbles, when your offense struggles to score more than field goals, your defense, in that situation, should try to recover the fumble and return it for a touchdown. Its much easier to return a fumble for a touchdown with no defenders (offensive players in this case) in front of you than it is to score with Chicago's offense against a defense.

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by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:41pm

1 run, 2 passes inside the 5? Why?
Fullback flat sighting!

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:41pm

Bad Rex is here early. The Bears really should have scored on 1st down. I think I'd have hit Clark.

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by Chris Heinonen (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:41pm

Though Chris Meyers just said they don't grant the 2nd timeout if they try to call them back-to-back, I seem to recall there being a Monday Night game a few years back where the Cowboys or Eagles did that, and got hit with a penalty for doing it. Did the rule change recently?

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by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:41pm

Actual FO Stats:

First Quarter Offense -
Bears: -5.1% (22nd)
Saints: 1.6% (12th)

First Half Offense -
Bears: -0.2% (17th)
Saints: 10.3% (7th)

First Quarter Defense -
Bears: -18.5% (9th)
Saints: 15.8% (29th)

First Half Defense -
Bears: -26.1% (1st)
Saints: 0.9% (18th)

The Saints defense is, for some reason, best in the 2nd Quarter, but it's the worst in the 1st quarter. My point is, Bears fans: don't get too excited.

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by 28 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:41pm

Naperville is NOT Chicago.

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by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:41pm

This isn't just bad Rex.

This is 1 for 7 for 4 yards.
This is catastrophic Rex

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:41pm

Why would you go for it on 4th and 1 from the two, but not 4th-and-goal from the one?

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by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:42pm

Fumble #3.

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by Compucrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:42pm

I was gonna ask the same question as above. But I guess thats why.

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by Not saying (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:43pm

Re: 87

To be fair to Buck, he called it an end around and Aikman said reverse.

That said, what is really annoying me about Buck is how he will break off a sentence to scream the ball carrier's name when he just runs into the line. Get excited when something happens, Joe.

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by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:43pm

That appeared to come out after he was down.

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by David (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:43pm

Eh, he was down.

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by Randy S. (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:43pm

The shot of Rex trying to take a time out and then getting arm slapped by his own player was some good television.

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by MattinDenver (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:43pm

Re #92 - big time holding on that end around by the Chicago WR..... How does the ref miss that one? They're the only two players near the ball...... then they miss the penalty on back-to-back timeouts..... good job refs.

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by 28 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:43pm

He was down.

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by Independent George (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:43pm

#1 - 0 INTs. 0 Fumbles. That's not Evil Rex - that's mildly irritating Rex.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:43pm

I think the Saints get this back, but my God, HOLD ON TO THE BALL!!!

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by Podpeople (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:44pm

1 for 5, 4 yards. Yup grossman is definately a superbowl caliber QB.

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by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:44pm

Free Adrian Peterson again! This guy is awesome!

I think it will be overturned, though

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by Mike J (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:44pm

These saints fumbles are totally ridiculous.

117
by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:45pm

Do all the Peyton commercials stop if the Colts are eliminated from the playoffs, or are we going to see him during the superbowl regardless of who wins?

118
by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:45pm

My guess is that even if they get the ball back, we'll start seeing Reggie Bush do kickoffs.

119
by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:45pm

nice

120
by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:46pm

Bad call.

121
by Darrel Michaud (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:46pm

Wow.

122
by Chris Heinonen (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:46pm

Wow, that's just a bad, bad call.

123
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:46pm

Bull. I don't know what the ref saw, but he was holding onto that (albeit awkwardly) until he was all the way down.

124
by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:46pm

Nfl.com called it a reversal before we got back from break.

"R.Gould kicks 64 yards from CHI 30 to NO 6. M.Lewis to NO 27 for 21 yards (A.Peterson). FUMBLES (A.Peterson), RECOVERED by CHI-D.Manning at NO 30. Play Challenged by NO and REVERSED. R.Gould kicks 64 yards from CHI 30 to NO 6. M.Lewis to NO 27 for 21 yards (A.Peterson)."

That was the correct call, of course, since he had the ball while his knee was down.

Then the actual refs come back and uphold the call. Bears' ball.

Wow.

125
by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:46pm

Wow. That's horrible.

126
by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:47pm

Who's calling this game, Bill Swerski?

127
by 28 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:47pm

That's an absolutely terrible call. Apparently the Bears are allowed to strip the ball when forward progress is stopper or the ball carrier is on the ground.

128
by Levy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:47pm

And once again the officiating is disgusting. That call basically means once the ball moves it doesn't matter whether you have been lying on the ground for ten minutes before the ball really comes out

129
by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:47pm

I thought he was down, but the Saints ball security has been terrible. My father used to tell me all the time, "Son, you must maintain ball security."

130
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:47pm

Fumble recoveries, oh what a skill. So weird, New Orleans has taken it to Chicago and yet they're down 3-0 and in a little trouble right now. Strange game.

131
by J (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:48pm

Just wow. Worst call I've seen in a month or two

132
by The Phil (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:48pm

"It moved," the announcers always like to say. So what? The ball can move all it wants. The point is, he had it secured to his body when he hit the ground.

Horrible call.

133
by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:48pm

I still find that Verizon commercial funny

134
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:49pm

nfl gamecenter originally published that the call was overturned and later changed that to call was upheld. what happened?

135
by johnt (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:49pm

What was that people were saying about an NFL conspiracy for the Saints to win?

136
by Tarrant (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:49pm

Wow. I don't know how, given the replay that was right in front of the player staring right at the ball, that the ruling on the field could have stood.

That's one of the worst in a while. And the officiating had been OK so far in the playoffs, but that's inexcusable.

137
by Gus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:50pm

I guess the officials are on the Bears payroll. As 109 mentioned, Berrian was blatantly holding Fred Thomas on the third down end around. I don't know what the rule is on back-to-back timeouts, but I know that Lewis was down and the play should've overturned.

Grossmans still looks terrible.

138
by Not saying (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:51pm

The ball moving makes a difference in establishing whether a wide receiver has possession, so why wouldn't it matter for fumbles? I still think it should be Saint ball, but the ball moving seems to make a difference.

139
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:51pm

Inspiring offense by the Bears here.

140
by J (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:52pm

Rex Grossman is struggling, but we all know he just wins, so Chicago will be fine

141
by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:53pm

How is there a Mike Ditka commercial without 'why do you care'?

142
by Jeff (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:53pm

It's ironic how all the journalists were commenting on how the refs have done a fine job during the first two rounds, and now two pretty bad calls. Did no one knock on wood?

143
by The Phil (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:53pm

The ball moved, but then he re-secured it, before he was down and it was stripped.

So it looked like he was losing control, but he then regained control. And then he was stripped. That's why it shouldn't matter that the ball moved in that instance.

144
by Lou in Cincy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:54pm

Bad...bad... bad call. I guess it is now possible to "fumble" whislt still holding onto the BALL!

145
by GDub (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:54pm

N.O. 4 possessions, 2 drive ending sacks, and 2 fumbles lost. Lucky to be down by only 6.

146
by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:54pm

RE: 83

I thought that was stupid as well. Obviously the Bears have been a more successful organization, but it wasn't an apples to apples comparison. Kind of like when Yankees fans brag that they have 26 WS wins while the Mets have 2.

147
by throughthelookingglass (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:54pm

Lewis let go of the ball after he was tackled and stood up again. I'm surprised he got away with that.

148
by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:54pm

I think that we can safely say that there is no conspiracy to put the Saints in the Super Bowl.

149
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:55pm

Does anyone here like Troy Aikman? He brings "saying nothing" and "stating the obvious" to a new level.

Wow, that's a push-off from Copper? Weak.

150
by Compucrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:55pm

Dicey call again.

151
by Tarrant (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:55pm

Wow. That was OPI?

152
by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:55pm

Geez, Michael Irvin became a HOF finalist doing things far worse than that.

153
by zzyzx (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:55pm

Let me say how glad I am that this isn't how the Seahawks game went down. The entire city of Seattle would have exploded.

154
by 28 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:55pm

Another ridiculous flag.

155
by Darrel Michaud (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:56pm

That's probably the first offensive pi call in the playoffs and it was on that!?

156
by Levy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:56pm

Offensive Pass Interference? Pathetic.

157
by perrin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:56pm

Offensive pass interference? You're freaking kidding. Bad officiating, field conditions so bad no one can keep on their feet... thanks for stepping up for one of the biggest games of the year, NFL.

158
by Gus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:56pm

Fumble! Oh, wait, the officials actually ruled that one an incomplete pass. I was starting to think that the ball was live whenever a Saints player let it go.

159
by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:56pm

Barry Sanders flashback.

160
by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:56pm

You can't run without blockers.

161
by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:57pm

Does anyone else agree that a Saints-Colts Super Bowl would be far more interesting than a Bears-Patriots one?

162
by MizzouBearsfan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:57pm

What happened to the Saints running all over us with Deuce and Reggie?

5 attempts for 12 yards so far..?

163
by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:57pm

RE: 102

He probably felt he was pushing for it by going for it the first time, and he didn't want to crowd his lick even more.

164
by Compucrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:58pm

I agree, won't happen most likely.

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by Donkeys Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:58pm

"I think it moved."
-George Costanza

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by Independent George (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:58pm

#131 - Commentary by Costanza:

"...So they came after me, wrapped me up in their arms, grabbing, poking, twisting, prodding, and... I think it moved."

167
by Gus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:58pm

Okay...well...if the Saints can ever have a possession where they're not crippled by the "officiating," I think they have a good chance in this game.

168
by David (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:58pm

161 - Your turf happened.

168
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:58pm

Whenever Bush is in the backfield, the Saints hand it to him. It's terribly predictable. That's why Urlacher went for him the moment the ball was snapped, that's why Bush always gets hit in the backfield, and that's why he averaged only 3.6 yards a carry this year.

Payton has to start putting Bush in the backfield more on passing plays, or else Bush will have a very difficult time running well.

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by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:58pm

I really like that Fed-Ex Kinkos commercial.

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by perrin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:59pm

160: Absolutely. I was hoping for a Saints/Chargers Super Bowl, but so much for that...

172
by MattinDenver (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:59pm

#127 - agreed. With these refs if the ball has been moving, but you resecure it, you can still fumble after you hit the ground. Is it a fumble after you get up, walk to the refs and give them the ball 30 seconds later? hey, the ball was moving, wasn't it?

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by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:59pm

WHOSE COUNTRY IS THIS

174
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 5:59pm

I really like that Chevy Silverado commercial.

175
by Gus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:00pm

169: Yeah, that's one of my favorites. Especially the "Ted, you keep thinking everyone's out to get you."-"They are." exchange.

176
by Andrew (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:00pm

161: Most of the research on this site says that big running yards come late in the game, and that consistently good teams get their running yards protecting a lead and running out the clock rather than creating a lead. Don't let that stop your rush to the Kool-Aid, though.

177
by Andrew (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:00pm

161: Most of the research on this site says that big running yards come late in the game, and that consistently good teams get their running yards protecting a lead and running out the clock rather than creating a lead. Don't let that stop your rush to the Kool-Aid, though.

178
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:00pm

Bush averaged 3.6 YPC this year mostly because he free-lanced too much and wouldn't go directly to the hole and take what was there.

179
by Jeff (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:01pm

Everytime Bush gets the ball, I get nervous (and I'm not a Saints fan) because he always seems so careless with it. He was lucky against the Eagles at least twice when he was holding the ball away from his body while running.

With two fumbles already, he better be more careful today than in other games.

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by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:01pm

Re: 174

My favorite line is to the guy who talks the big game.

"Let's do it"

181
by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:01pm

The fact that the Saints are still within a touchdown says something about the Bears offense.

182
by Peter (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:02pm

#180 : That they're not turning it over (yet)?

183
by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:03pm

I love the fact that Troy Aikman thinks that down 13-0 with two-and-a-half quarters left would be insurmountable.

184
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:03pm

177: I'm not sure how correct that conventional wisdom is. I've watched a lot of Saints games, and what I see is Bush getting creamed in the backfield immediately, like he did on that last play. I didn't see him dancing around in the backfield and then getting swamped. Sure, his field vision is still a work in progress, but he gets pounded in the backfield a lot.

185
by Paulo Sanchotene, Brazil (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:03pm

I just start watching. Two awful calls against Saints...

186
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:03pm

Grossman still looks very shaky to me. Chicago might want to run on this third and goal.

I love that FedEx Kinkos ad, too.

187
by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:04pm

#181: I was thinking more along the lines of a sentence with the words "Red Zone" in it, but that works too.

188
by Gus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:04pm

My god, Grossman is awful.

189
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:04pm

183: I'll admit I'm parroting the Jaworski/NFL Matchup view on Bush, but it seems accurate from what I've seen.

190
by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:07pm

How can an NFL QB go into a conference championship game thinking he'll throw it away unless the receiver is wide open? Except when Fred Thomas is in coverage, receivers rarely get that open in the NFL and even Thomas is capable of making the occasional play. The Bears can't go into 2008 with this guy as the starter, can they?

191
by Darrel Michaud (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:07pm

Hector:

Reggie Bush ran the ball for 4.8 ypc in the last 7 weeks of the season.

192
by Paulo Sanchotene, Brazil (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:07pm

Except fot that big play, a 30-yard pass, Chicago offense is throwing away all the job the defense has done so far...

193
by David (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:07pm

Is it just me, or does Fox show more commercials than CBS does?

194
by playoffsfinally (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:08pm

How can the reffing be this bad in a championship game?

No way that was a fumble and no way that was offensive pass interference. Those plays weren't even close.

WTF is wrong with the NFL?

195
by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:09pm

192: Agreed. FOX almost always does commercial-kickoff-commercial, while CBS sometimes does commercial-kickoff-drive-punt-commercial.

196
by Gus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:10pm

Whoa Brees, easy on the headfirst dives there, buddy. Jamie Martin isn't going to beat the Bears.

197
by zzyzx (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:10pm

Are there any rules at all about field quality? Suppose a team thinks the other one is too fast for them. Is there a rule preventing them from destroying the field so their speed can't come into play?

198
by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:10pm

RE: 160

Everyone I've heard talk it about it has said Saints-Colts would be the most compelling matchup.

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by Compucrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:10pm

189: I think at this point Bears fans will take Rex throwing for barely anything, so long as he doesn't throw the game away.

200
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:10pm

Urlacher isn't the most athletic linebacker in the league. Please, Aikman. Geesh.

201
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:11pm

If the NFL has rules on the conditions of a field, Team Belichick routinely broke them.

202
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:11pm

Well, you learn something new every day, I guess. The Saints don't go downfield unless they are trying to take a shot.

203
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:12pm

188: I think that Jaworski's point is valid, but I think it only tells part of the story.

Bush is able to line up as a wide receiver, which the Saints love to do, because he's valuable as a pass catcher. So they split him wide on lots of passing plays, instead of putting him in the backfield. (It could also be because he's poor in pass protection. Most rookies are.)

When he is in the backfield, he gets a handoff about three times out of four.

I did see a lot of attempts to bounce it outside earlier in the year, and I haven't seen every game, so there could have been some improvisation that backfired that I've missed. I don't know.

My biggest concern with Bush is ball security. I think he got away with bad ball security in college because nobody could catch him, but he always looks like he's about to fumble at any moment. Bush definitely needs some more coaching before he can reach his potential.

204
by johnt (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:12pm

196: There are some minimal rules, but there is a long history of people doing this. Bill Belichick allegedly left the field uncovered before one of the playoff games versus the Colts solely to make it as crappy as possible.

205
by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:14pm

Does the wind at Giants Stadium count towards the code of field conduct?

206
by Gus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:14pm

203: Bill Belichick, who every knows is the head groundskeeper of Gillette Stadium...

207
by JasonK (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:16pm

Beautiful block to seal the edge by Clark on that run.

208
by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:16pm

*begins making '00 Ravens - '06 Bears comparisons*

209
by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:16pm

Jones is looking great against the weak saints defense. bounce outside...

210
by J (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:16pm

205- He isn't. But he gets pretty much whatever he want in New England. If he wanted tulips planted all around the field, he'd get them.

211
by zzyzx (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:16pm

Well the Bears got a lot of breaks early, but now they're outplaying the Saints.

212
by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:16pm

Re: #198

That's exactly my point. The guy can't possibly keep his job when "not fucking up" constitutes success. Grossman inspires terror every time he drops back to pass.

213
by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:17pm

Unless the Saints show that they can stop Jones, Grossman might not have to throw another pass.

214
by Compucrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:17pm

Wow, I never appreciated how good the Bears run game is. Especially when they have a QB with the field awareness of my couch .

214
by DavidK44 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:17pm

Troy Aikman isn't even "not bringing anything to the table"...he's actively WRONG on things.

A draw play, unless I'm mistaken, means the QB acts as if he's going to pass....Troy has called that big run a "draw" when there was no real action by Grossman to do that. It was a normal running play.

Dave

216
by Gus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:17pm

Aikman thinks Muhsin Muhammad is underappreciated? Wow, I thought the problem was that he's not that good.

217
by Paulo Sanchotene, Brazil (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:17pm

Grossman can't pass? Take the ground...

218
by Levy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:17pm

Looks like the team able to run throught the middle the best will win this game

219
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:18pm

Anytime the Saints want to run blitz, fine with me.

220
by playoffsfinally (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:18pm

So what is the rule exactly? Let's say a Saint is tackled, gets up, tosses the ball to the ref and the ref places the ball on the hash mark and signals for the play clock to run. If a Bear than picks up the ball and runs with it, it is obviously a fumble. But is it legal to advance it at that point?

221
by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:19pm

Bears should take a knee. OK, maybe not...

222
by Not saying (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:19pm

Clark let an end run past hit and then hit someone who was falling to the ground. That is what I call amazing blocking.

223
by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:19pm

Half-time can't come soon enough for the Saints D. Unless the O can hold on to the ball, this could turn into a rout.

224
by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:20pm

The Chicago-Chevy Corollary

The closer the Bears are to scoring, the more we're going to see "This Is Our Country".

225
by Peter (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:20pm

The Bears have only themselves to blame if they lose this game. At the completion of this drive that should have a 24 point lead. If they come away from this with nothing better than a field goal (or worse, nothing) that's 12-15 points wasted.

226
by Compucrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:20pm

211: I'm not disagreeing that the Bears would be better served with a dependable QB at the helm.
But for this playoff run, the Bears will simply beg Grossman to make a couple important plays, and just not completely screw them over. No need to try to improve him now.

227
by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:20pm

RE: 215

Exactly. He's not a very good receiver anymore. More stupidity from the announcers.

228
by David (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:21pm

All I can say is the Colts better win later, because if we end up with a bears/pats Super Bowl I'm rooting for both team to die in a plane crash.

229
by J (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:21pm

score. this is really boring

230
by Paulo Sanchotene, Brazil (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:21pm

Saints need to stop this drive if thay want to have a shot at this game... Come on! All you need is embrace the ball and run?!

231
by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:22pm

Rex's best drive so far.

232
by Gus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:22pm

Ladies and Gentlemen, your QB of the Bears in 2007: Thomas Jones.

233
by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:22pm

NO IT IS NOT GAME OVER DONT SAY ITS GAME OVER ALRIGHT

234
by rollo (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:22pm

Da Bears. I would really have rather the Saints had not fumbled way their postseason here.

235
by Not saying (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:23pm

Re: 214 Troy Aikman isn’t even “not bringing anything to the table�…he’s actively WRONG on things.

I'm also pretty sure that the two plays he said were identical weren't. 1. Opposite sides of the field. 2. On the second, Jones followed the fullback, while on the first, he didn't (I think it was a counter, but I could be wrong).

236
by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:23pm

RE: 221
The first part was to sell the pass. The 2nd part was because there was no one in his area to block. I agree that it wasn't much of a play, though.

237
by Gus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:24pm

FUMBLE! Oh wait, incomplete pass. Good job, refs.

238
by Gus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:26pm

Hey, Colston decided to show up!

238
by Paulo Sanchotene, Brazil (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:26pm

Who needs a quarterback at first place?!

240
by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:26pm

The Saints live!

241
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:26pm

Saints absolutely need points here. Okay, I'm stating the obvious.

242
by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:27pm

Hector, that qualifies you for a six-figure job as a football commentator.

243
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:28pm

Aikman "would not be completely surprised" if Brees went to a glove in the second half.

Hedge on, hedger.

244
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:30pm

Sell the Drama, 18. Throwing Copper.

245
by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:30pm

TD saints

woohoo

246
by Gus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:30pm

Game on.

247
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:30pm

Go for 2?

248
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:30pm

Definitely too early for a two. Kick the XP.

249
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:30pm

And we have a bit of a game now.

250
by Compucrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:30pm

Holy Crap a game just broke out!

251
by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:31pm

#241: Touchdown, Saints. Marques Colston is able to catch footballs, and he is able to do it in the endzone.

That too complex?

252
by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:31pm

We have a game!

Great 2-minute drill. Now the Saints need more of the same in the 2nd half.

253
by johnt (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:31pm

Charles Tillman just had Steve Smith flashbacks...

254
by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:31pm

Barring a very long runback, the Bears have to take a knee, right? If they let Rexy chuck it, I think they're nuts.

255
by Paulo Sanchotene, Brazil (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:32pm

Suddenly, there's a game!

256
by Not saying (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:32pm

Tillman should have committed to the hold that he started. A flag is better than a TD.

257
by Doug (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:32pm

The Saints are 1-6 this year when trailing by 10+ points at any point in a game. Not good news. The Bears are 11-0 when leading by 10+ points at any point in the game. Also bad news for Saints fans.

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by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:33pm

Getting behind by 10 or more is bad? Got it!

259
by rollo (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:33pm

Glad the game is close. The Bears DEs are split realy really wide, and if NO starts running Deuce they coudl take advantage. Alot easier to do that down 9 than down 16.

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by Paulo Sanchotene, Brazil (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:33pm

STOP THE RUN!

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by cd6 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:34pm

This bears team is JV like, with the second timeout attempt, and now running off the field.

What the hell?

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by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:34pm

Has Muhammad disowned that Pro Bowl vote for Grossman yet?

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:34pm

Chicago doing what Baltimore did last week. Stupidity. Don't be so conservative. 2 timeouts and 45 seconds. Try to make a play!

Grossman looks clueless.

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by Compucrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:34pm

Shouldn't someone tell the starting QB what the plan for a drive is?

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by Not saying (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:34pm

Re: 235

I wasn't trying to insult Clark, I think he did fine. I was just really pissed at Joe Buck yelling about how great of a block it was before we saw it. He obviously hadn't seen it either.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:35pm

That was a bizarre way to end the half. Blame Rex or the OC?

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by Levy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:35pm

Grossman is so dumb, it's unbelievable...

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by Doug (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:36pm

Wow. This isn't Bad Rex, it's Retard Rex.

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by Doug (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:36pm

Wow. This isn't Bad Rex, it's Retard Rex.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:37pm

This is the drawback to sticking with the Sex Cannon. His imcompetence means that if and when the Bears have to score in a hurry they just can't do it.

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by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:39pm

I think the Bears were *wise* to not push it on the final drive. You're up nine, your QB is not playing well. Know when to quit and go to the locker room. It's the right move.

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by Arbman (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:40pm

Lovie's total unwillingness to put in Griese is killing this football team. But I'm rooting for the Saints, so its all good by me

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by Levy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:40pm

Aren't the commentators allowed to say something was a bad call. I mean they always dance around it, saying debatable. Tell it like it is: Awful officiating

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by Daniel (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:41pm

Rex Grossman lives on his own planet....kind of like Manny Ramirez, without being, you know, good

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by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:41pm

Tom Brady's legs are always underneath him when he plays in a dome.

Where else would they be?

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by David Ferrier (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:42pm

The Bears should pick up Jake Plummer in the offseason.

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by sippican (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:43pm

Ever see the players knock heads before the game?

Grossman really needs to start wearing a helmet like everybody else does during that portion of the warm-up.

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by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:44pm

Okay, I like "Matty Fitz" from the NFL Network ads. There, I said it.

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by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:44pm

275: That's a funny way to spell "Byron Leftwich".

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by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:44pm

Never trust the mouth-breathing QB. I wonder who wrote his term papers at Florida.

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by Paulo Sanchotene, Brazil (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:45pm

Re 274: I was confortable to hear that Brady knows where his legs were...

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by Jeff (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:45pm

Not to get ahead of us, but Belichek must be salivating at the chance to face Rex.

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:47pm

re: 273

That's just Rex being Rex.

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by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:48pm

Joe Buck has the "smug" look down. He should be doing the Old Spice ads.

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by clonmullin (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:49pm

The Saints are way unbalaned - 25 yds rushing in a half ??

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by Jeff (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:49pm

Nice tackle by 24.

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by J (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:49pm

Alright, that's two good throws by Grossman today

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by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:49pm

Man, Hester really waves that football around like a flag while he's running.

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by J (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:50pm

Good no-call

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by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:50pm

Could Good Rex be returning? Nah.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:50pm

Fred Thomas 2 Berrian 0

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by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:50pm

Grossman was "struggling a little bit throwing the football?" Go out on the limb, Aikman.

I agree on the no-call on Thomas, but it was pretty close.

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by SteveNC (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:50pm

re 192, 194:

I thought they all do 5 commercial breaks within each quarter (which is a shame when there's an injury at the end of the quarter and the game is stopped anyway but they "have" to save their commercials for the next quarter).

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:51pm

what sort of odds could one get on the Saints to win straight up, right now? I would lay $1,000 if I could get 6 to 1 or better.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:51pm

Another bad throw by Rex. To make matters worse, he's has all kinds of time. NO have got no pressure on him today.

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by Levy (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:52pm

That's a first. They called a New Orleans player down by contact

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by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:53pm

Is every long return always called back by an block in the back penalty?

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by J (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:53pm

seems like it

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by hector (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:54pm

294: I thought NO had good pressure on Grossman early in the game, anyway.

A woman goes into the men's room by mistake and fixes her contact lense in the mirror. What's so embarrassing about that? Maybe I'm just sick of seeing that add 793 times.

I hope they can show us the infraction from Scott when we get back from break.

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by brian c (not verified) :: Sun, 01/21/2007 - 6:54pm

Block in the back was in the middle of the field, nowhere near the action.