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This thread is for discussion of action on the field before, during, and after the NFC Championship game between New Orleans and Chicago, a.k.a. "The Game People Can Still Discuss in a Reasonable Fashion."
298 You're right - that commerical makes no sense
Unbelievable. Bush rox
Don't like the hot dog move from Bush, but we've got a ballgame!
How'd Bush get behind everybody like that?
dammit, I've seen the stupid wendy's ad and the dumb robot punches a truck ad about 450 times. More than This Is Our Country. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Wow. Just wow.
REG-GIE! REG-GIE! REG-GIE!
Holy shit, Reggie Bush just TORCHED the Bears. He's carrying the Ball and the entire team is chasing him and he still kept putting distance between them.
Oh My. That's why the drafted him. I'm not sure taunting the Bears D on the way in is smart though.
Oh, and am I the only one who wouldn't really feel sympathetic if Bush broke his neck or something doing that dumb-ass little flip thing?
I love the Jim Mora clip but the commercial cheapens it.
I think that play alone, in the NFL Championship game, was worth the #2 pick in the draft.
I think that play alone, in the NFC Championship game, was worth the #2 pick in the draft.
as the game gets closer, the pressure on Rex grows....
did u see the pick?
Bush does love to show the panache at the end of his scores. His touchdown at Pittsburgh was probably the coolest score of the year (helped by the Globetrotter-esque flip from Colston).
Not my style but I guess the kids like it.
Where is your Mario Williams now, Texans? Huh? Huh?
Houston Texans on the phone - they are still standing by their decision to pass on Reggie Bush.
If he broke his neck, you'd be an asshole for not feeling sorry. If he strained his back such that he couldn't finish the game, no sympathy needed.
How the hell do you kick the kickoff out of bounds? I mean, really!
Nice kick, John Kasay Cundiff.
yay! a player actually lets it roll out of bounds!
Hey Reggie, making unnecesary jumps to the endzone is how Adrian Peterson messed up his shoulder/collarbone.
Great way to hand it all back. Shades of the Panthers in the SuperBowl.
...!!!! That's all I have to say about this TD.
Saints have realized that they need to start run stopping. They win.
I dunno, the flip seems pretty unobjectionable. Just a quick, athletic move, then it's over. No elaborate routine or any of that nonsense
That was just an amazing play by Bush. Kid's got wheels.
Gary Kubiak, Texans HC, just threw up a little bit
Why has the Chicago defense stopped calling "fumble recovery" this half?
Grossman is all over the place. I think all of Chicago is very afraid right now.
a belated answer - but if you could get 6 to 1 odds against the Saints to win straight up right now, you probably should avoid the bet, because the person offering you that line is probably insane, and a bad risk.
Why? If you act like a dumb-ass, why should I feel bad if something bad happens to you?
Two consecutive overthrows of open receivers for Rex. The Bears have to be a little concerned.
On Houston's 2006 Draft, I want to know who made the final decisions. It's so weird to see a team switch GMs *right after the draft.*
324- It wasn't an unnecessary jump, but it's a valid point. Ginn Jr. was injured celebrating the kickoff return against Florida
Can't say I would feel sorry if a showboat taunter like him got injured celebrating. It'd be karmic justic, actually.
Was that the Bears crowd booing their team, while up 16-14, in the NFC Championship game? After that I'm hoping the Saints really give them something to boo about.
The Bears shouldn't be in the game anymore right now.
The Saints tried to let at least one kickoff run out of bounds, too, it just happened to stay in the field of play.
Whoever said that the Saints need to pass more when Bush is in the backfield, was that good enough for you? (Good call.)
who was the guy who said, about getting into the end zone, "act like you've been there before"? I'm old school...
that said, Bush accelerated like a Lamborghini! to make that juke and get back to top speed that fast...unreal
312: When trying to explain to my girlfriend why the commercial was funny, I found a great Mora Medly (linked on the name). It nicely splices the "Diddly-Poo" press conference, which I hadn't seen, with the classic "Playoffs?" conference.
Another waste of time on the sideline. Oh, Jones has a Ferrari. Got it.
Mark Karney sighting.
Did anyone else want to see Karney get the ball on that play?
And Karnage gets it to convert for the 1st!
It took 28 minutes but the Saints offense made it to the game. Brees seems to back into form.
347: LOL, we even used the same number of exclamation points.
Out-typed by Gus. You win this round...
Free Mike Karney
Outside of his family, probably no one else is happier to see Karney get a carry than the readers here.
God, I hope the Bears don't win. I can't imagine how terrible the Super Bowl will be if they're in it.
Payton's play calling and design is ridiculous. The Saints sure lucked out on getting him.
Man you gotta admire Sean Payton's play-calling.
It's Mike Karneys' world and we're just living in it.
My objection was just one of degree-- a broken neck is a tragedy that would deserve sympathy if he's doing anything short of a felony.
I think itÂ´s not "boo". It's "Deuuuuuuuuu..."
We might get to see Mr. Grossman under pressure, I think I'll enjoy that.
It's funny, the Bears were cruising, and now they are under some pressure. I mean Deuce is getting 7 yds. on first down, as an outlet/dump off. Lets see if the Bears can refocus.
What fumbles? I don't remember any fumbles. Does anyone here remember any fumbles?
I wonder what Carney's range would be in these conditions today. Also, is there a wind bias in either direction today, has that been mentioned?
Interesting formation they had there, with three backs (?) lined up behind Brees.
Lol, Karnage 2 happened as I typed the previous message.
Is Terrance Copper ever actually open? I know he's contributed this year, but he seems to get no separation.
Right now Chicago defensively is tighting up a bit? What game is Troy Aikman watching?
oh boy, lets see how he follows up the kickoff out of bounds.
*The Price Is Right losing horns play*
The guy who kicked a kick-off Out of bounds gets a field goal try? Stupid call!
357: Actually, I believe they were saying "Mooooooooovers". As in, Rex Grossman might want to start moving his things out of town.
I must really hate Buck because I'm annoyed he said "no good" when "short" was the better call. I need help.
Bill Parcells sees Billy Cundiff and he throws up in his mouth.
Who will the snow affect more?
369: hating Joe Buck snowballs over the course of the broadcast to the point where I throw things at the TV when they show him and Aikman in the booth.
hmm....with a large dose of hindsight, maybe a run on 2nd and 10 was in order in that situation - at least make the field goal a bit more manageable before taking a shot at picking up the first down
yeah, I saw that one. After last week, it's kind of refreshing. You have to know when to risk letting it roll out of bounds, though. Live ball.
Also, did anyone see what that yellow thing on Sean Payton's calf was?
I agree, 372. These guys drive me nuts. Which reminds me, who has the Super Bowl this year, what network? I can't recall.
Nice tackle by Vanilli (but I don't think Berrian appreciated it).
Anybody else catch the Chicago fan giving the camera the finger in that last crowd shot?
375- CBS. Phil Simms. Jim Nantz. Love it.
Well, he could have done it about four yards better.
Guy flipping off the camera. You stay classy, Bears fans!
#373: My thoughts exactly. Deuce would have been able to get 4 yards or so
CBS has the Super Bowl this year. Nice punt by Maynard.
Nice. Bears fans flipping off the camera as it pans by. Da classy.
"He couldn't have punted it any better"
Doh! Intentional grounding in the endzone...
That's the right call. Surprising misstep by Brees.
Wow. What a stupid play by Brees. Not only was there nowhere within yards of the area the ball went to, he didn't even get it back to the line of scrimmage, which itself is a requirement even if you're outside of the pocket.
That's what you get for completely abandoning the running game.
Wow, a stupid play call and a bad play by Brees. If you're on your own five, run it!!
For all his imaginative playcalling, Sean Payton might want to consider running fron inside his 10.
Great kick and good coverage by the Saints.
The Karnage is not happy with you screwing up his name.
Great game from the punters.
I don't think 18 points is enough. Chicago needs to score more.
The score didn't look right with Chicago at 16. Now it looks like six field goals, which is more acceptable.
re #342: Lou Holtz?
The ol' screen pass to nobody
Way to be, Rex
why on earth did they throw two straight plays from there?
He could hide Grossman's helmet.
Why was that not grounding? He threw it at two linemen.
Who the hell was the screen to? No Replay?
"Ron Turner is trying to figure out that he can do to move the football..."
Easy. Bench Rex.
It was better to Brees punt the ball away instead of throwing...
Grossman down to 5/20 now. But he hasn't turned it over, I guess. Yuck.
This is what I hate about intentional grounding. So inconsistent. The two bears there were 53 and 63, I doubt either was eligible.
Somehow, if the Bears win this game, I'm pretty sure the "X QB wins football games" thinking won't end despite Grossman's "performance".
The Bears offense is a zero. If the Saints can't win this game, it'll be pretty pathetic.
just keep punting, New Orleans. your time will come...
Because it was the Bears?
I can't wait to see the FO guys put Rexy's game in historical context. How can you win a championship game when your QB is this brutal?
On the bright side, if the Bears when this game, Dilfer will no longer be the worst QB to start a Super Bowl.
Ya, know, I think even if the Texans took Bush, they won't use him correctly. IMHO, the Saints have done, and continue, to use Bush the best way that they can, while he learns a bit more about the game.
I just can't picture the Texans, with their slip-shod O-Line, and weak passing game, would use Bush to his potential at this point.
Looks like solid pass protection adjustments by the Saints for most of the half.
Football in the snow is so cool. Rexy, how about filling your pick quota now, please.
This game has been anything but tight.
Thomas 2 Rex 1
So in what language does "Rex Grossman" translate out to "Harvey Dent"?
we've had a chicago quarterback sighting
I also loved earlier in the game one of my favorite announcer conciets. They want the game o seem close and interesting and dramatic so they try not to draw attention to the score.
When NO was driving down 6-0 they make a whole string of comments with backwards priorities. Well if the NO doesn't score here it is going to hurt their confidence. IF NO doesn't score here it is going to effect their play calling.
While those are both true the main problem if you don't score there is YOU ARE DOWN 16 pts. I love the way they treat the score as a secondary consideration. The only reason you care if your team has confidence on offense is the effect it has on future scoring.
Rex did throw a rope to Berrian. One of his best of the day, no doubt.
"They gotta score more points."
Evidence of the continuing impact of repeated concussions or trenchant analysis by Fox's no. 1 color comentator? You be the judge.
Two nice throws by Rexy this drive. Hmmm.
Muhammad has the strangest way of catching the ball.
Sid, I just figure the coin told him to be good this drive.
If Muhammad won't go to the ball, then the ball must go to Muhammad.
Two good passes from Grossman on the same drive mean that he is about to be picked off.
Rex 2 Thomas 2
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Gag Gag, I feel sick from this announcing.
Great, I had to go and open my mouth about Rex...
Rex 3 Thomas 2
Yeah, Rex is inconsistent and sometimes looks bad, but he doesn't get enough credit when he does make plays.
No. Fucking. Way.
To borrow from that annoying Jeep ad:
We've secretly replaced the Bears starting QB with another, competent QB, let's watch and see if anyone notices.
If you have like 6 straight lousy drives and then one good one, does that one good drive really become "the defining drive"?
Eli Manning must be proud of that throw.
I love how Aikman says "you kept wondering when the Bears would go after Thomas" AFTER Chicago does it and makes it work. Man I hate this guy.
Heck of a catch from Berrian. Rex had it on that drive, no question.
Fred Thomas is awful. He never looked at the friggin' ball.
Ok, how is that NOT offensive PI?
Nice drive, but no replay before the XP? Who controls that, FOX or the Bears?
The Fred Thomas factor finally rears its ugly head.
Will somebody please take Fred Thomas out back and shoot him?
Wow! Who's the guy with Rex uniform?!
#440: In the eyes of most of the sports media it does.
I really dislike the playcalling by the Saints the last few drives
That Jeep ad was more annoying back when it was a Folger's coffee ad back in the 1970's.
Now let's see if the coin tells Harvey to keep being a good QB.
for the people talking about the ads:
they have a certain quota. for example, they didn't go to ads after Rex's bomb to Berrian.
Bad call by the refs.
That should be Chicago's ball.
Man does Aikman love to say "you knew ____ would happen" AFTER it happens and not before. He drives me batty. I'm done moaning about Aikman for the day, this is my last one.
I guess the Saints will go after Asante Samuel or Nate Clements in the offseason.
Well that's the game.
Oh wow, if the Bears get the ball back that could be game set match. I can't believe they're in such good position to win after the way they've played.
I keep hoping that elephant steps on the little girl. I'm a terrible person.
This should be overturned and be Bears ball.
You could read Ogunleye's lips saying "I had it! I had it!"
This should definitely be Bears football.
Ugh. I'm smelling Bears-Pats Super Bowl blowout. This is going to be ooglay.
Amazing how one-sided this game is at any given point in time. Chicago dominates, then NO dominates, and now Chicago is dominating again.
The only real exception was the early long drive by NO that almost resulted in a field goal attempt.
461- I was thinking a 'tusking'. She is really creepy.
Ref looking right at the play, doesn't see the fumble or the recovery. Wow.
Brees had to know that play was questionable, he shoulda gone with a quicker snap (assuming he has the ability to).
Is it me or does Joe Buck sound beside himself with joy whenever anything good happens to the Bears?
Shit. Well, Chicago really should be able to hold onto this game.
So uh, Chicago is the 5th most penalized team in the league during the regular season, and today every single penalty in the game has been called against the Saints who had the 5th least during the regular season??
I'm worried that the next game is going to go just like this one... the team I would prefer to watch in the superbowl (Colts, Saints) is going to generally play better but get jobbed by some fumbles or questionable ref calls and I'm going to have to watch the other team two weeks from now instead.
*Not to say that the fumbles would be less of a problem if the Saints would hold the ball better, but you get the idea.
NO has to hold the Bears to 3 here. Anything else means Rex in the Superbowl.
No need for Saints fans to give up yet - if they can hold them to a FG here, they still have plenty of time for the two touchdowns that would tie the game
If I'm the Bears coach I run the ball and don't risk Evil Rex showing up to screw them over.
Just great. Now we all have to endure another terrible Rex Grossman performance in two weeks
I guess tackling was optional there.
Damn, like maybe 3 games have gone the way I want all playoffs.
Rex Grossman in the Super Bowl, lol. Man the NFC stinks.
Well, this stinks. Now I have to rely on my homerism to come through to break even on my NFL picks.
I think the Saints lose all right to complain about officiating, bad bounces, etc. now. Can't give up a run right through the middle for a touchdown in that situation
Rex Grossman stepped it up when it was needed according to Joe Buck. Obviously he couldn't be bothered on the other drives. Btw Benson TD. Game Over.
Jeez. go go AFC...
And say what you want about Rex, but Brees is the QB who has fumbled twice....
Anyone who gives the Sex Cannon much credit for the Berrian TD is just snuffling Rex's truffles. That's all on Thomas and for Berrian. Rex just did his best Dan Pastorini imitation.
Can you imagine if the Pats win, the look on Belichik's face when he realizes that Grossman is the QB that will stand in their way for a 4th ring?
479: That happens to me every year. If I ever start betting on games, I'm doing the George Costanza; if I want team x to win, I bet on them to lose. I'd almost have to go money-line, though - it seems to randomly alternate between "team I want to win gets blown out" and "team I want to win loses on a painful last second play".
What was the greatest discrepancy in talent between two quarterbacks meeting each other in the Super Bowl? Will it be this year with Grossman vs. either Brady or Manning? I remember Steve Young against Stan Humphries....
INT... ballgame again?
#486 : Or threw an interception ... hang on, which team is Grossman playing for?
Yet another nail into the coffin...
And the Dilfer family rejoices.
It was fun, but it's over... The palyer that is using Grossman uniform played very well.
re 488- I predict every single DB on both AFC teams will be absolutely playing their hearts out today. Can you imagine the glory they're anticipating?
I'd say the same applies to Dungy if the Colts win.
Also, I thought it was funny right before the last TD when Aikman said: if the Bears score a TD here, the Saints will . . . have a hard time. Because he couldn't just say game over because people would change the channel.
Okay, now I definitely say game over.
I'm moving out. So if the Saints scores 17 unanswered points, don't tell me.
Aikman: "my guess is that he'll still throw it to pick up the first down".....I've held off on the Aikman-bashing thus far, but geez, what a moron
why are the fans booing on this punt? are they all morons? do they not realize how lucky they've been, that they're 8 minutes from the Super bowl? they want Rex to strike deep for another TD?? WTF???
After Pittsburgh winning last year and Grossman getting to the Superbowl this year: Do we enter the stage of the game where the quarterback doesn't matter anymore for the success of a team?
yeah, this one is over.
Ohh, "300" and "Ghost Rider." I'm going to have a nerdgasm.
You could... if you also chose to not watch any of the Steelers' games from last year.
1. See posts 486 and 49.
2. I would wait until after the Spuer Bowl to say that, this is the NFC.
3. Also depends on if the team is built around the QB (e.g., Colts) or the D (e.g., Bears).
Hostetler - Kelly?
It's not always about the QB.
Kelly vs Hostetler was a real mismatch. So was Kelly vs Rypien.
Ok I don't see how you can call grounding when he was hit as he was throwing.
How can they call grounding when he gets killed at the same time he's throwing? Yeah, he's just trying to unload it but, seriously, how can they be sure the hit didn't affect the throw?
Have the Saints done anything positive since they missed that FG that would have put them ahead?
Obviously, the Bears didn't get the "On 4th down, don't go for the INT" message from the Chargers game last week.
Is intentional grounding one of the penalties that DVOA takes into account? I know that pass interference is.
It's a poorly officiated game, but even if the Saints get the calls, I still think the Bears win.
If you're talking about SB V, that was Morton/Morrall (Unitas replaced him during the game).
Morton/Staubach was certainly a mismatch though.
Mike Brown sure loves his lip balm.
I want to thank Football Outsiders, ESPN, and the rest of the national media for making this COMPLETE DOMINATION of the New Orleans Saints possible. Thanks for angering Mr. Urlacher and company.
We see now that Brady is superior to Brees. Had Brady thrown that 4th down pass, the Bears would have picked it off and fumbled it back to the offense.
Okay, after that play, the Saints absolutely deserve to lose.
In fact, they should probably be banned from the NFL for a year for that "defensive effort."
Well, thats what you get when you barely run the ball
Could we please stop anticipating the AFC championship?
(And yes, either Dungy or Belichick would prefer facing Grossman over Brees. But they'd also prefer facing the Saints' D over the Bears' D.)
Chicago Bears, 2006: proving (unlike the Bengals and Chargers) that it really does pay to employ violent criminals.
Nothing says "humiliating loss" quite like the old "this team should be very proud of all they've done" speech by an announcer with like five minutes left in the game...
Wait, how does the NFL allow Tank Johnson to have "TANK" printed on his jersey? And they get upset about Bush wanting #5? Stupidest priorities.
It's been a poorly officiated game for sure. But the fact that the Saints simply could not stop the bears ground game when they needed to. Thats why they lost not the officials.
Going into the second round of the playoffs, there were 8 cities left, only two of which have ever had their team win a Super Bowl before. If we end up with Pats/Bears, it'll be death to the underdogs.
They probably have more than one T. Johnson. Like, the Colts had Dexter Reid and Darrell Reid, so they both had their full names on their jerseys.
Am I the only one who hates the fawning over the '85 Bears?
Yeah, they were great. They were also a one hit wonder in an era when a whole bunch of teams reached and won multiple Super Bowls.
Aikman (paraphrasing): This is the greatest part in an NFL career.
So winning a Super Bowl isn't as great as getting to one?
The other T. Johnson is safety Todd Johnson, who plays a lot when the Bears get their annual injury at safety.
They do have Todd Johnson. But I thought they just did double letters (e.g., Ta. Johnson).
Time to switch to the other game thread now.....Go Pats!
One half of my ideal Superbowl gone. Oh well, lets hope the Colts get it done.
It seemed to me that the Saints had big problems early on just holding onto or catching the ball, and I suspect it's largely due to the cold. Trying to do anything with cold fingers just sucks, and the Saints definitely weren't used to it (they practiced indoors all week!). They were lucky to get out of the early hole they dug themselves, but they obviously had nothing left for the 4th quarter (note: playing in the cold also makes you tired if you're not used to it!).
Maybe he's talking about the emotion of beating the best opponent left--which Troy did a few times in the conference championship game (as opposed to the Super Bowl).
In other words, he's talking about the feeling that will be experienced by Manning or Brady about 4 hrs from now.
Class move by the Bears -- going for it on 4th and 4 rather than trotting out Gould for the figgie try.
No need to rub it in if you don't have to; so props to Lovie for that.
Bears special teams dominant again.
Thank heavens. If I had to hear about how much the Saints mean to New Orleans since Katrina again I would have puked in my hat.
It also ends the game faster, which is why I'm grateful. I didn't want to see it end like a basketball game does.
So is it time to crown their asses yet?
What total crap. Another potentially decent playoff game totally ruined by one-sided officiating. The entire story of the game can be summed up by the final boxscore: Penalties NO 7-47, CHI 1-5. And that was a flase start after the game was essentially over.
Are we suppose to be totally fooled by this year after year? I didn't support either team in this game but this game sucked crap. It was boring to watch. If the refs had called holds and penalties against chicago, we would have at least been allowed to watch a good game. Instead we are force-fed this shit product from the NFL again. After the crap of last post-season. When will they fire their head of officials and make an attempt at decent refing?
By the way, Shannon Horsehead Sharpe thinks Cedric Benson was the 2nd pick of the draft last year. I guess that's why he gets paid the big bucks, right?
Rex Grossman was rancid again. Good lord, the SB is going to be ugly if (as I sadly expect) the Pats are against him.
Nah, best as I can tell the conventional wisdom is right on this one. For a single season, they probably were the most dominant NFL team ever. Actually, the next year their defense was even BETTER, the offense just declined.
Re: 535 Maybe heâ€™s talking about the emotion of beating the best opponent left
I think you could argue both the Pats and Colts did that last week. Especially looking at DVOA, but even without that.
A big steaming pile of multiple turnovers while not forcing any, combined with soft defense, is a nice recipe for a blowout playoff loss. I though a Saints/Colts Super Bowl would be the most fun, but the biggest disappointment was that the Saints only made it competitive for a few short spells. Note to Saints: The Bears will try to force fumbles, so you may want to actually wrap the ball with some effort ocasionally. Hey, Payton, I generally like your playcalling, but continually throwing while backed up to the goal line will likely be eventually costly.
Gosh, if the Bears win the trophy this year, we'll all be subjected to nonsensical Grossman blather similar to Dilfer yammering. Yeah the Grossman, all he does is win.....
#521: Yes but going against Grossman its like half your game-planning is done for you. I guess its hard for me as a Vikings fan to take the Bears seriously as a SB team when not only did we outplay them, statistically speaking, but if we would have just played ultra Marty-ball in the 2nd game and punt it out of bounds, we would have won running away as Grossman just was just hell-bent on giving the game away to us. So imagine what would happen if the SB was Pats-Bears.
Well, I have to say it, the Saints laid the egg we were all expecting them to down here. This bears out the theory of the Saints having a letdown week after each big win. This week was no exception.
I don't want to talk about the officiating too much. When your turnover ratio is like -4, you deserve to lose the game. Granted, one might have been questionable and another was fairly definitely an officiating screwup, the ratio is still negative. The Saints offense didn't get it going well in the beginning, the defense gave it their all in the first half, but got worn out. The offense finally decides to show up, but the defense has nothing in the tank, then the playcalling gets desperate and it all goes to h*ll from there.
Offseason, the Saints need two things: A couple of good cornerbacks and another good person on the left side of the O-line. If they can keep the rest of the team together, maybe replace Joe Horn with another cheaper young receiver to relieve some cap space, they will be an even better team next year.
Too bad that this is the New Orleans Saints and, if history repeats itself, they regress to the pack in a hurry. Remember, Jim Haslett was coach of the year his first year with the Saints, and then it went downhill after that. We might have one good year next year, but, after that, this flash in the pan is over.
Picked Da Bears to win the Superbowl (against anyone except th Patriots, where it's a tossup, edge Patriots, though). Well, off to collect my winnings.
Damn Pinnacle. Exited the U.S. market about 5 minutes before getting my bets in.
Wow, barely a mention of how well the Bears' D-line played, getting to the nigh-unsackable Brees and shutting down the 2-headed running monster. No mention of the O-line keeping Rex upright and opening running lanes. Instead, there's just lots of whining about the officials. I don't think Bears fans were watching the same game as the rest of the world.
Hey Charles, the Bears defensive line definitely whipped the New Orleans offensive line, which resulted in two of the turnovers, although the first Brees fumble wasn't so much a good play by the Bears as it was just a hideous mental error by the Saints left ot. Turnovers by the Saints, and their not forcing any from the Bears, largely because the Bears were much, much more physical, was the story of the game. Two of the turnovers (well, one, depending on how one views the fumble on the kickoff were just examples of lousy ball security by the Saints, which the Bears took advantage of.
The Bears definitely were the far superior team, and I almost always root for the NFC team, and have never rooted against any team from the old NFC Central, but I gotta pull for the Colts this year. The prospect of hearing morons on t.v. or radio talk about how Grossman should be given credit for playing well enough to win games, like I just heard that idiot Salisbury say on ESPN, is too painful to contemplate. This has to stop, so the Colts must win.
The Bears dominated the line of scrimmage, that's where the disparity in penalties comes from Saints were losing the battles up front.
As a fan the only call that looked questionable to me was the Greg Lewis fumble off the kick off return, and even one could argue the ball started to come out before he hit the ground.
Meant say *Michael Lewis return.
My only comments (for now) are these:
1) I'm proud of my team.
2) This is the latest in the season that I've actually cared about a football game.
3) Chicago played well, and capitalized on the Saints' mistakes.
Congrats to Da Bears.
Anyway, will they call this Super Bowl the "Soul Bowl"? What's the over/under on references to Smith and Dungy being Black? Look, I'm happier than many people for both those guys, but I will be happiest when people can look at an accomplishment and not look at the color of my skin.
Oh, one more thing, for all of you people who told the Saints to stay classy, how about this little gem from Bears fans: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5611/dabears22cf.jpg
Maybe Chicago needs another fire...
First off, Sophandros: That really sucks and the guy with that sign is a jerk. But it's extremely unfair to place all Bears fans/Chicagoans in the same boat just because one guy's a total ***hole. Saying Chicago needs another fire is about as classy as that guy's sign...
A couple things about the game. Rex wasn't good, and he was barely mediocre. But he produced 1 TD and he didn't have any TOs, so I'll take it. Will he have to play better in the SB? Probably. But the Colts run defense still doesn't scare me.
The Bears D line played great. There was pressure in Brees' face all day and they stuffed the run for the most part. That to me was the turning point of the game. The Saints also abandoned the run too quickly even though they were trailing big early on.
Lousy officiating? Sure, what NFL playoff game would be complete without people complaining about the officiating? The Lewis return fumble was atrocious and I'm sure there could have been a hold or two called on the Bears. The rest of the fumbles were pretty clear.
I'm sure that everyone is going to pick the Colts to win in a blowout now. I'm also sure that we'll hear way too many stories about how Rex is clutch.
Why were they booing Muhammad everytime he made a play???
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