Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

13 Sep 2016

Week 1 Quick Reads

by Vincent Verhei

Sunday's game against Seattle was not a stellar one for the Miami offense. The Dolphins' first ten drives resulted in 46 plays, seven punts, five three-and-outs, six first downs, and only 145 yards of offense. And that total is grossly skewed by one 50-yard reception -- Miami averaged 2.1 yards on their other 45 plays in that stretch. The 11th drive was much better, gaining 86 yards and a touchdown that actually put the Dolphins ahead because Seattle's offense was hardly doing any better. But after Russell Wilson answered with a go-ahead touchdown drive of his own, Miami piddled away, finishing the game with an incompletion, two sacks, and a fumble.

How bad was it for Miami? Ryan Tannehill had the worst DYAR of any quarterback on Sunday, while Arian Foster had the third-worst DYAR among any running back. That's in total DYAR though, and Foster was the man who produced Miami's 50-yard catch-and-run. In rushing DYAR alone, Foster was the worst running back on Sunday. His longest run went only 9 yards, and that was his only first down on the ground in 13 carries. Meanwhile, he was hit for no gain four times and also had a fumble. This all means that going into the Monday night games, the Dolphins had the worst passer and the worst runner of the week.

Now, there are quite a few caveats to that. First of all, as I'm writing this, the 49ers are playing the Rams, and it's quite likely that Case Keenum or Blaine Gabbert (or both) will end up surpassing Tannehill at the bottom of the tables. Even if they don't, though, keep in mind that this is Week 1, and opponent adjustments are not included. It's safe to assume that Seattle will have one of the league's best defenses when all is said and done, which means if we go back and revisit this game at the end of the year, the numbers for Tannehill and Foster will look a lot better. For now, though, the Dolphins have pulled off a very rare double-play.

(And as it turns out, Keenum did have a worse game than Tannehill, and he was the worst quarterback of the week. And due to a subtle change in league-wide baselines, Foster's day got a little bit better, which means the worst rusher this week was actually Miami's old running back, Lamar Miller. That doesn't mean this piece is totally irrelevant though, because Todd Gurley also had a terrible game Monday night, and finished third-to-last in total value behind Miller and Adrian Peterson. So we can add the 2016 Rams to the list of bullet points at the end of this article. In fact, I'll do that right now. Just do me a favor and pretend for a thousand words that Tannehill and Foster were worst at passing and running this week. Cool? Cool. I owe you a solid.)

Is the first time a team has had the lowest-rated passer and runner in a given week? Unfortunately, we don't have our database set up in a way to quickly answer that question. A look back at recent years didn't find anyone else who pulled it off, but enough players came close that we can guess that some poor offense has done so in the past 25-plus years. The Houston Texans nearly pulled it off three times in 2013. In Week 6, T.J. Yates was the lowest-ranked quarterback, while Ben Tate was fourth-worst among running backs in rushing DYAR. (It's too bad that offense was so bad, becauses "Yates and Tate" would have been a great nickname for a successful attack.) In Week 12, Houston had a new quarterback finish in last place: Case Keenum. (Speak of the devil, and the devil appears.) Tate was the fifth-worst runner of that week. And then in nearly happened again in Week 15, when Keenum was again the lowest-ranked quarterback and Tate was fifth-worst in rushing.

One other combo came close to being the worst passer and worst runner in a given week. In Week 13 of 2014, Oakland's Derek Carr was the lowest-rated quarterback, while Marcel Reece was third-worst in rushing. The Raiders lost 52-0 that day to a Rams team whose leaders in passing, rushing, and receiving were Shaun Hill, Tre Mason, and Stedman Bailey, and that finished ninth in defensive DVOA. Those Raiders had a lot of problems.

If we look at running backs by total value instead of just rushing value, then we can find a worst quarterback/worst running back combo exactly one year ago: in Week 1 of 2015, Baltimore's Joe Flacco finished last among quarterbacks, while teammate Justin Forsett was last among running backs. That game actually had a lot in common with this Seahawks-Dolphins contest -- it was also a low-scoring slugfest in which the terrible quarterback/running back combo had a chance to win all the way to the end. And just like Tannehill and Foster, Flacco and Forsett were playing an excellent defense -- in their case, the Denver Broncos, who turned out to be an all-time great defense capable of winning the Super Bowl even without a lot of points from its offense. Fans in the northwest can only hope that this year's Seahawks share the same ultimate feat with last year's Broncos.

We found one other quarterback/running back combo that finished at the bottom of their respective rankings. In Week 14 of 2014, Zach Mettenberger of the Tennessee Titans was the lowest-ranked quarterback, while teammate Bishop Sankey was the lowest-ranked running back. That game was nothing like our first two examples -- the Titans were blown out 36-7 by a Giants team that finished 24th in defensive DVOA While our Dolphins and Ravens duos were at least partly the victims of unfortunate scheduling, Mettenberger and Sankey have nobody to blame for their struggles but themselves. (And their teammates.) (And coaches.) (Look, there has been a lot of blame to go around in Tennessee lately.)

No other QB/RB combos have finished last in total value in recent seasons, but a number have come close. That's not entirely surprising -- quarterbacks at the bottom of the tables produce a lot of incomplete passes and failed completions, and running backs are often the targets on those throws.

Here's a list of other teams from 2013 to 2015 whose quarterback finished last in Quick Reads, and had a running back in the bottom five:

2013

2014

2015

2016

Quarterbacks
Rk
Player
Team
CP/AT
Yds
TD
INT
Sacks
Total
DYAR
Pass
DYAR
Rush
DYAR
Opp
1.
Matthew Stafford DET
31/39
340
3
0
1
197
194
4
IND
Stafford finished this game on fire, completing eight of his last nine passes for 114 yards. Seven of those completions gained at least 10 yards and a first down, including a go-ahead touchdown. The eighth was a 9-yard gain on first-and-10. Over and over, he and the Lions exploited the Colts' vulnerable underbelly for catch-and-run gains. He went 7-of-8 on passes over the middle for six first downs and 108 yards -- 39 through the air, 69 after the catch. Stafford was fantastic when throwing to his running backs, but we'll save that for the next table.
2.
Drew Brees NO
29/40
423
4
0
1
195
196
-1
OAK
In addition to the numbers listed here, Brees threw for DPIs of 11, 17 and 23 yards -- all of them in the fourth quarter. Brees was very good on first and second downs, but he had about as bad a day on third downs as you'll ever see from a quarterback this high in the tables. He went 3-of-5 on third downs for 18 yards, but only one conversion. His other two third-down plays were a 13-yard loss on an intentional grounding foul, and a sack-fumble. Brees also had one fourth-down play: a 1-yard touchdown to Willie Snead.
3.
Andrew Luck IND
31/47
385
4
0
2
150
138
12
DET
Luck went deep often and usually connected, going 8-of-14 for 219 yards and two touchdowns on passes that traveled more than 15 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
4.
Jameis Winston TB
23/33
281
4
1
0
148
153
-4
ATL
First quarter: 3-of-7 for 15 yards, no first downs, one interception, one DPI for 25 yards. Second quarter: 14-of-17 for 136 yards, two touchdowns, and five other first downs. Third quarter: 5-of-7 for 125 yards, with two touchdowns and two other first downs. Fourth quarter: 1-of-2, 5 yards, one first down.
5.
Derek Carr OAK
24/37
319
1
0
0
132
126
6
NO
Carr looked to his left and found a weakness in the New Orleans defense and attacked it, going 9-of-11 for 163 yards and a touchdown on throws in that direction. Only one of those nine completions failed to pick up a first down.
6.
Aaron Rodgers GB
20/33
199
2
0
1
106
89
17
JAC
Rodgers was terrible at the beginning of this game, completing two of his first seven passes for 11 yards and no first downs. And he was terrible at the end, going 5-of-9 for 20 yards and one first down, with a sack. But he was very good in between, going 13-of-17 for 168 yards and two touchdowns, with seven other first downs, plus a 30-yard DPI.
7.
Matt Ryan ATL
27/39
334
2
0
3
96
95
2
TB
8.
Andy Dalton CIN
23/30
366
1
1
7
75
72
3
NYJ
Dalton really missed Tyler Eifert in scoring range. Inside the Jets' 40, he went 5-of-8 for 32 yards with no touchdowns, one first down, and two sacks.
9.
Carson Wentz PHI
22/37
278
2
0
2
70
91
-21
CLE
Wentz's best friends against Cleveland were his tight ends. On seven throws to Zach Ertz and one to Brent Celek, he went 7-of-8 for 69 yards and five first downs.
10.
Philip Rivers SD
25/36
243
1
0
1
66
61
5
KC
Effective station-to-station football. Eighteen of Rivers' completions gained less than 10 yards, but only four of those were unsuccessful plays.
11.
Shaun Hill MIN
18/33
236
0
0
0
58
60
-2
TEN
Hill moved the ball well enough until he got into scoring range, and then he was almost totally useless. Inside the Tennessee 40, he went 1-of-8 for just 13 yards.
12.
Dak Prescott DAL
25/43
227
0
0
0
58
56
2
NYG
While the focus after the game was on Terrance Williams' failure to get out of bounds and stop the clock to set up a potential game-winning field goal, none of that might have mattered if Prescott had done better on the Giants' side of the field. Once he crossed the 50, the Dallas rookie went 11-of-19 for only 72 yards, with four first downs and no completions of 10 yards or more.
Rk
Player
Team
CP/AT
Yds
TD
INT
Sacks
Total
DYAR
Pass
DYAR
Rush
DYAR
Opp
13.
Carson Palmer ARI
24/37
271
2
0
3
51
50
1
NE
In 2015, Palmer completed 60 deep passes for 1,656 yards, both the highest numbers in the NFL. On Sunday night, the Patriots took away his deep pass. He completed only 2-of-9 deep throws for 57 yards. One of those completions was an 18-yard gain on third-and-23.
14.
Ben Roethlisberger PIT
27/37
300
3
1
1
42
42
0
WAS
Most of Roethlisberger's success came on throws to his left, where he went 13-of-15 for 181 yards and three touchdowns, with four other first downs and one interception.
15.
Alex Smith KC
34/48
363
2
1
3
37
30
7
SD
Smith's numbers were remarkably similar pre- and post-comeback. First three quarters: 15-of-22 for 180 yards, but only five first downs (including a touchdown), plus three sacks. Fourth quarter and overtime: 16-of-22 for 163 yards, but 12 first downs (including another touchdown) and no sacks.
16.
Jimmy Garoppolo NE
24/33
264
1
0
2
37
35
2
ARI
Garoppolo got a lot of praise for his performance in this game, but really he was very ordinary after New England's opening drive. On that opening possession, he threw for 75 yards and four first downs (including the scoring play). On their next eight drives (not counting an end-of-game kneeldown), he threw for 177 yards and seven first downs.
17.
Marcus Mariota TEN
25/41
271
2
1
2
30
25
5
MIN
18.
Blaine Gabbert SF
22/35
170
1
0
0
24
13
11
LARM
Gabbert was his usual terrible self for three quarters, then poured it on once the game was out of reach. In the fourth quarter, when he always had a lead of at least 14 points, he went 6-of-9 for 89 yards, plus DPIs of 12 and 5 yards. That was good enough for seven first downs in the quarter (including his touchdown), after only throwing for five in the game's first 45 minutes. Gabbert entered the season with the worst total passing DYAR on record, so it is only fitting that when he completed a pass to himself in this game, the play lost 16 yards. According to Pro Football Reference, that was the most yards lost on a reception in the last seven years.
19.
Blake Bortles JAC
24/39
320
1
1
3
18
19
-1
GB
Bortles had four passes on fourth down in this game, converting three of them. Yes, that's a lot. Ryan Tannehill led the NFL with 16 fourth-down pass plays in 2015; Eli Manning led the league with nine conversions. We'll see if Jacksonville is this aggressive all year.
20.
Brock Osweiler HOU
22/35
231
2
1
2
17
11
7
CHI
21.
Eli Manning NYG
19/28
207
3
1
2
10
10
0
DAL
22.
Kirk Cousins WAS
30/43
329
0
2
0
-2
-2
0
PIT
A bad day in the red zone, where Cousins went 1-of-6 with an interception. That one completion was a 6-yard gain on first-and-goal from the 9. Cousins threw the pick two passes later.
Rk
Player
Team
CP/AT
Yds
TD
INT
Sacks
Total
DYAR
Pass
DYAR
Rush
DYAR
Opp
23.
Russell Wilson SEA
27/43
258
1
1
3
-4
-6
2
MIA
24.
Joe Flacco BAL
23/34
258
1
0
4
-25
-25
0
BUF
Nobody ever said Flacco had a weak arm. He went 5-of-6 on deep passes against Buffalo, for 160 yards and a touchdown.
25.
Ryan Fitzpatrick NYJ
19/35
189
2
1
1
-27
-35
8
CIN
26.
Cam Newton CAR
18/31
194
1
1
3
-28
-39
11
DEN
Newton threw only one incomplete pass on third down, though he was also sacked twice. His 10 third-down completions produced eight conversions and 118 yards.
27.
Trevor Siemian DEN
18/26
178
1
2
2
-53
-66
13
CAR
Denver called a very conservative game plan for their young quarterback, having him throw only one deep pass all night. And they were right to be conservative -- that one deep pass was intercepted.
28.
Tyrod Taylor BUF
15/22
111
0
0
2
-60
-41
-20
BAL
Buffalo's screen game was not working against Baltimore. Taylor threw six passes to receivers at or behind the line of scrimmage, completing four of them for 6 total yards (not a typo) and no first downs.
29.
Jay Cutler CHI
16/29
216
1
1
5
-79
-79
0
HOU
30.
Robert Griffin CLE
12/26
190
0
1
3
-94
-98
4
PHI
Griffin's first pass of the second half was a completion to Corey Coleman. It was the last first down for Griffin on the day (and perhaps of the year). From that point forward, he went 2-of-10 for 14 yards with three sacks and a fumble.
31.
Ryan Tannehill MIA
16/29
186
0
0
5
-120
-122
2
SEA
Tannehill's fourth pass of the game was a 50-yard completion that Arian Foster caught 2 yards behind the line of scrimmage. It was the last first down Tannehill would produce until the fourth quarter. In between, he went 6-of-14 for 29 yards. Starting with his first pass of the second quarter and ending with his first pass of the fourth, he produced this amazing sequence: incompletion; sack; 10-yard gain on third-and-18; five incompletions in a row; 6-yard gain on third-and-15; sack; 6-yard gain on third-and-16; 1-yard gain on first-and-10; three incompletions in a row. Our leading quarterback this week, Matt Stafford, had a success rate of 63 percent on all dropbacks. Tannehill had a success rate of 44 percent on his completions.
32.
Case Keenum LARM
17/35
130
0
2
2
-177
-182
5
SF
Keenum didn't even get to attempt a pass in the red zone. On the 49ers' half of the field, he went 2-of-10 for 20 yards (hey, at least they both went for first downs), with an interception. On third downs, he went 5-of-12 for 38 yards with three first downs and two sacks. And as bad as Los Angeles' wide receivers are (foreshadowing!), their running backs and tight ends might be even worse, at least in the passing game. Throwing to his backs and tight ends, Keenum went 6-of-12 for 27 yards with no first downs and two interceptions.


Five Best Running Backs by DYAR (Total)
Rk
Player
Team
Runs
Rush
Yds
Rush
TD
Rec
Rec
Yds
Rec
TD
Total
DYAR
Rush
DYAR
Rec
DYAR
Opp
1.
Spencer Ware KC
11
70
1
7/8
129
0
92
32
61
SD
Four of Ware's runs went for 10 yards or more, he converted both of his third-down carries, and he was hit for no gain just once. One of his targets came on third-and-3 (he converted with a 5-yard gain), but the rest were all on first-and-10. He turned four of those into first downs, on gains of 12. 20, 28, and 45 yards.
2.
Theo Riddick DET
7
45
1
5/5
63
1
67
18
49
IND
As usual, Riddick's runs provided some boom (21-yard touchdown, 12-yard gain on first-and-10) and some bust (losses of 1 and 4 yards). Four of his five completions went for first downs, with a long gain of 19 yards. Only of those receptions was caught behind the line of scrimmage; the others were caught 2 to 5 yards downfield.
3.
Ameer Abdullah DET
12
63
0
5/5
57
1
60
19
41
IND
Abdullah's three first downs on the ground came on gains of 13, 10, and 9 yards, while he was hit for a loss just once. Four of his receptions produced first downs, including an 18-yard gain on second-and-3 and a 13-yard gain on third-and-9.
4.
Matt Forte NYJ
22
96
0
5/7
59
0
35
15
19
CIN
Though his longest run gained only 14 yards, Forte had five first downs on the ground, 14 runs of 3 yards or more, and only three stuffs for no gain or a loss. He added three first downs as a receiver, including two conversions on second-and-10.
5.
Mark Ingram NO
12
58
0
2/2
29
0
32
14
18
OAK
Ingram ran for gains of 17 and 12 yards while adding a 3-yard gain on second-and-1 and getting stuffed for no gain or a loss twice. His two receptions: a 9-yard gain on second-and-10 and a 20-yard gain on second-and-6.


Five Best Running Backs by DYAR (Rushing)
Rk
Player
Team
Runs
Rush
Yds
Rush
TD
Rec
Rec
Yds
Rec
TD
Total
DYAR
Rush
DYAR
Rec
DYAR
Opp
1.
DeAngelo Williams PIT
26
143
2
6/9
28
0
30
74
-43
WAS
Williams had an amazing 22 runs of 3 yards or more, with nine total first downs and two third-down conversions. He was hit for no gain only three times.
2.
Spencer Ware KC
11
70
1
7/8
129
0
92
32
61
SD
3.
David Johnson ARI
16
89
1
4/6
43
0
31
29
3
NE
Johnson only had one 10-yard gain against New England, but at 45 yards it was longer than all but one run the Patriots gave up in 2015. He also converted four of his five power runs while getting hit for no gain or a loss just twice.
4.
Danny Woodhead SD
16
89
0
5/7
31
1
32
26
5
KC
What? What is this guy doing in the rushing tables? Woodhead's 16 carries were a career high, and his 89 yards on the ground were his most since 2010. Thirteen of those carries gained 3 yards or more, including gains of 21 and 12 yards, with just one stuff for no gain.
5.
Melvin Gordon SD
14
57
2
0/0
0
0
23
23
0
KC
Yeah, Kansas City might have some run defense issues. Gordon converted three out of four short-yardage opportunities, added a 17-yarder, and was stuffed just twice.


Worst Running Back by DYAR (Total)
Rk
Player
Team
Runs
Rush
Yds
Rush
TD
Rec
Rec
Yds
Rec
TD
Total
DYAR
Rush
DYAR
Rec
DYAR
Opp
1.
Adrian Peterson MIN
19
31
0
0/2
0
0
-43
-30
-13
TEN
A long run of 9 yards, only two first downs (with came with 1 and 2 yards to go), and five runs that lost yardage.


Worst Running Back by DYAR (Rushing)
Rk
Player
Team
Runs
Rush
Yds
Rush
TD
Rec
Rec
Yds
Rec
TD
Total
DYAR
Rush
DYAR
Rec
DYAR
Opp
1.
Lamar Miller HOU
28
106
0
4/4
11
0
-42
-33
-9
CHI
A long run of 12 yards, and that came on third-and-24. Only four first downs. Four runs for no gain or a loss, and one of those was fumbled.


Five Best Wide Receivers and Tight Ends by DYAR
Rk
Player
Team
Rec
Att
Yds
Avg
TD
Total
DYAR
Opp
1.
Willie Snead NO
9
9
172
19.1
1
73
OAK
Snead was so dominant that he leads all receivers this week even though he fumbled on one of his receptions. (It came at the end of a 43-yard gain, which was still a negative-DYAR play thanks to his butterfingers.) Eight of Snead's receptions led to first downs. The other was a 6-yard gain on second-and-7.
2.
A.J. Green CIN
12
13
180
15.0
1
68
NYJ
Only five first downs in 12 receptions, but those five first downs netted 137 yards by themselves.
3.
Antonio Brown PIT
8
11
126
15.8
2
56
WAS
Six total first downs, including five conversions in six targets on third and fourth down. Average distance to go on those plays: 3.7 yards. Average gain: 16.7 yards.
4.
Larry Fitzgerald ARI
8
10
81
10.1
2
52
NE
First five targets: three receptions, 20 yards, only one first down (though that was a touchdown). Last five targets: five receptions, 61 yards, five first downs (including another score).
5.
Brandin Cooks NO
6
9
143
23.8
2
51
OAK
Cooks only had three receptions for first downs against Oakland, but that included touchdowns of 15 and 98 (!) yards, and he had a fourth first down on a 17-yard DPI.


Worst Wide Receiver or Tight End by DYAR
Rk
Player
Team
Rec
Att
Yds
Avg
TD
Total
DYAR
Opp
1.
Tavon Austin LARM
4
12
13
3.2
0
-62
SF
Once again referring to PFR, Austin is apparently one of three men to get 12 targets in a game and fail to amass even 15 yards. Austin had a 5-yard gain on third-and-4 in the third quarter with the Rams down by 14 points. It was the longest play and his only first down on the night. In fact, it was his only successful play of the night, including his one rush for 2 yards. That's 13 total yards on 13 plays from scrimmage. A few weeks ago, the Rams guaranteed Austin $30 million. Yeah.

Posted by: Vincent Verhei on 13 Sep 2016

106 comments, Last at 16 Sep 2016, 11:12am by bravehoptoad

Comments

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by Thok :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 7:29am

"And that total is grossly skewed by one 50-yard reception -- Miami averaged 12.1 yards on their other 45 plays in that stretch."

I don't know how much you like people pointing out typos, but you want 2.1 yards, not 12.1 yards.

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by RickD :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 10:03am

I'd say that's a pretty important typo.

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by Aaron Schatz :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 10:56am

This is fixed now. Thanks for ranking the typos for us by level of importance.

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by RickD :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 11:53am

You're quite welcome.

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by ChrisS :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 1:10pm

Pretend this is post 999. Typo under Case Keenum " On third downs, he went f-of-12 for 38 yards". I think it should be "On third downs, he went "ugly af"-of-12 for 38 yards"

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by drobviousso :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 1:48pm

Call it TRA for Typo Above Replacement.

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by fyo :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 7:55am

Having actually watched the Dolphins - Seahawks twice now, I have to say Tannehill had a pretty good day against a very solid defense. This is one of those instances where charting shows its worth with several key drops (most notably the 70+ yard perfectly thrown bomb to Kenny Stills).

The fumble on the penultimate play of the game should probably be discounted similar to hail mary interceptions.

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by fyo :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 8:46am

PFF appears to agree with my assessment of Tannehill's game, grading out as the best player on the Dolphins offense. According to PFF he also saw pressure on more snaps than any other quarterback. So, about that offensive line...

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 8:00am

The Vikings provide the perfect lesson in how context is everything. If Shaun Hill was the 11th best qb performance this week, Ryan Lochte is a Rhodes Scholar. The Titans defense was playing on about a 35 yard field, because Hill's arm, which was never great, has nuthin' left. If Bradford can get 25 plays down, he has to start against the Packers.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:50am

And Dak Prescott right behind him, who, at 43 attempts and 227 yards, was not exactly stretching the field.

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by Karl Cuba :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 1:38pm

Mr Danimal, Blaine Gabbert is waiting on line three.

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by bravehoptoad :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:25pm

You mean Glaine Babbert?

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 8:08am

Has a Quick Reads ever been published without either Tom Brady or Peyton Manning appearing somewhere?

5
by Dr. Bill :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 8:16am

Ha!

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by nat :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 8:30am

Yes.
It's obvious if you think about it.
Injuries and bye weeks.

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 8:43am

Ah, yes, the bye weeks of 2008 and 2011 certainly.

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by fyo :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:01am

Quick Reads debuted in 2009, so scratch the 2008 suggestion.

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:04am

Memory fails. What was Manning's neck injury year?

(edit) Sure, alter your post, rendering mine nonsensical!

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by fyo :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:24am

Apologies. Yes, I originally questioned the 2011 suggestion. I tried, in vain, to find a strikeout option in the formatting features.

And you are correct. 2011 on Brady's bye week had no mention of either Brady or Manning in the Quick Reads themselves (but, of course, tons of irrational Brady-v-Manning discussion in the comments).

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by nat :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:32am

The column began on ESPN in 2004 (as part of a larger Page 2 column called "Snap Judgment") and then moved to FOX from 2005-2007 and back to ESPN in 2008. -- Aaron Schatz
2009 was the year that FO became its primary posting site. So don't scratch the 2008 suggestion exactly. But when I googled "espn quick reads 2008" I could see the introductory text but not the quick read charts. That's a bit of history lost.

I can see stats when I look at "espn 2004 quick reads".

Looking at 2004 reminds me: I still miss DPAR.

Get off my lawn.

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by tuluse :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:49am

Wasn't it on Fox Sports for a while too?

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by nat :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 10:20am

I assume that's what "FOX from 2005-2007" means.

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 8:46am

It's really unfair to make the Rams travel to the West Coast for a late-starting night game.

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by JoeyHarringtonsPiano :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 8:52am

Maybe they have a rare case of prolonged jet lag.

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:08am

When did the Rams leave Cleveland, 1946? It's probably the delayed effects of transcontinental train travel that did them in.

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by Tim R :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 10:07am

Well I think Fisher thinks it still is 1946 so he might have made his players get a train from Cleveland for the match.

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by Hurt Bones :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 10:52am

Probably better than multiple flights in DC-3s (or similar) out of Cleveland Municipal Airport.

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by dryheat :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 10:10am

Did they depart on the autogyro out of Idlewild?

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by dmstorm22 :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:16am

I would point out that just last year your Vikings went to San Fran to play the late MNF game and were similarly impotent on offense losing 20-3. And look how that year ended up for the two teams!

Actually, after rethinking, the Rams were so, so, so much worse on offense than even the Vikings were in Week 1 of last year. That was a completely dreadful performance in every way.

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:21am

Last year, the Vikings actually had to leave their time zone. If the Rams had, would the score had been 56-0?

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by rj1 :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 2:51pm

What odds will Vegas give me if I bet on Rams 0-16?

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:27am

Fondly remembering the days when Atlanta Falcons were in the NFC West

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by gomer_rs :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 6:40pm

Classic NFC West, SF 49ers & Rams plus Atlanta, Charlotte and New Orleans.

With Phoenix and Dallas in the "East"

_______

I remember when they were the Sea-chickens.

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by andrew :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 11:33pm

That was the NFL coastal division originally.

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by alien1rock :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 8:53am

The Steelers seemed content to drop 8 guys in coverage last night and challenge Cousins to beat a zone (which he couldn't do). Do you have stats from 2015 on how Cousins did vs a 3-man rush? Was that an issue last year that the Steelers picked up on?

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:27am

If you crossed the Redskins' offense with the Vikings', the proper defense would obviously entail 11 guys standing in a line across the field, 5 yards from the line of scrimmage.

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by Aaron Schatz :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 10:59am

No, Cousins last year averaged 8.2 yards per play on 32 plays with 3 pass rushers. He didn't show any really clear trend, as from 3-6 pass rushers he went 8.2, 6.7, 8.1, 4.6.

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by alien1rock :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 11:01am

Thanks

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by Raiderjoe :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 10:02am

l.a. RAMS EMBARRASSMENT TO nfl. horrible team. like watching 2-legged cat tryugin to bury a turd. stayed up to wstch whole game cuause out of morbid curiosity. C. keenum should ahev been put on fishing trawler after game and pushed out to sea.

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by TimK :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 10:31am

Rather unfair on trawlermen there, Raiderjoe.

On the positive front for Rams fans, surely Fisher won't be head coach much longer after debacles like that.

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 11:17am

I gotta believe Fisher and Snead are gone about 3 minutes after the week 17 game. The question then becomes how good a jobs are GM and coach for the Rams. It seems to me that Kroeneke is a run of the mill NFL plutocrat, except he is out in the Paul Allen neighborhood for net worth, so he likely won't be a cheapskate now that he is in L.A.. I think it would be an attractive spot.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 11:34am

I don't think it's the worst gig in the world. I've not heard any signs of Snyder-like interference. As you always said Will, at least Kroenke is funding his own stadium.

Kroenke has been sole owner since 2010 but first bought into the Rams in 1995.

- Vermeil retired after three seasons and a SB win.
- Martz got six seasons which might have been extended by going to the SB in year 1.
- Scott Linehan rightly only got three years (8-8, 3-13, 2-14)
- Spagnuolo got three (1-15, 7-9, 2-14) - again probably right to get rid of him.

Then Fisher came on board in 2012 and has gone 7-8-1, 7-9, 6-10, 7-9. Clearly he came back this year because of the move to LA but it seems like Kroenke was willing to give him time.

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by CaffeineMan :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 12:28pm

I thought I read (here, even) that Kroenke is basically a mall developer that got started by marrying into the Walton (Walmart) family. I feel for Rams fans, because it really seems like he got the LA spot because he's developing a giant sports-oriented mall. How much does he care about the on-field performance? Yes, he doesn't interfere in football, but is that because he doesn't really care? Maybe those closer to the situation have more insight, but that's the pattern I see emerging. It's just another business property to him. How much would bad attendance in LA really affect his bottom line?

I thought he picked Fisher for logistical reasons (he'd been through a team move before). Maybe he gets this year and 2017 and is gone after that?

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 12:37pm

12 sold out football games a year, and the aura of a a very popular team, in the nation's 2nd biggest city, probably would help drive rents in the surrounding development, so I don't think it will be viewed as unimportant to Kroeneke to have his team be successful.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 12:50pm

According to Wikipedia, he was already rich from real estate when he married his wife, a Walmart heiress, in 1974 and she didn't inherit the farm until 1995.

Kroenke appears to be a real sports fan. He has the Colorado teams in the NFL, NBA, NHL, AFL, MLS, National Lacrosse plus English Premier League - Arsenal.

Now perhaps he just sees sports fans are an easy source of income but I'm guessing he likes being part of the sports circle.

Interesting title to this article though ... http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/stan-kroenke-i-didnt-buy-arsena...

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by CaffeineMan :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 1:20pm

I thought someone here contradicted that story, although I may not be remembering right. What I remember was someone saying that his wife was his college sweetheart and that he essentially went to work for the Walton family after college and got rich developing malls with Walmart as the anchor store. In other words, not exactly a rags to riches story, even if his wife didn't technically inherit until later.

He clearly likes being a sports mogul, but that doesn't mean he's really a fan or has any love for the game. Maybe it's my annoyance that the league seems to be making a standard mistake, away from any emphasis on the game itself (their core business), towards expansion into things that strike me as ancillary. But that's only my vague personal feelings and I could be selling Kroenke short.

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by ChrisS :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 1:25pm

I read this article because I am a Gunner fan. In the article Stan claims a man flies his helicopter from South Africa to London for the games. This seemed dubious to me, copters have limited range and speed. According to the internet it would take the copter with the longest range 5 refueling stops and over 26 hours of flight time (excluding time to land-refuel-take off). The next longest range copter would take 6 stops but only 22 hours of flight time. I can't see anyone doing that when a private jet can do it non stop in about 9 hours.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 1:39pm

Given how long the Gunners are sticking with Arsene, Jeff Fisher may yet have another 10 years on his contract ;-)

I didn't really think too heavily about the article so yes flying 6,000 is a bit unlikely. Maybe someone made it up when they met Kroenke and he believed it. Who knows?

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by rj1 :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 2:54pm

Cumulative owner record of 36-60-1, or .376.

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by SandyRiver :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 2:30pm

Well, then, a long-liner. Those guys are always needing bait.

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by JoeyHarringtonsPiano :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 12:37pm

I watched the first two episodes of Hard Knocks before I got bored with it, but I remember Fisher going on a rant in a team meeting, and saying "I'm not going 7-9 again!!".

No...no you're not Jeff. At this point it appears you're going 4-12 if Case Keenum is your quarterback all year.

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by TomC :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 1:48pm

When the book is written on the comic genius of the RJ character, it will be important to point out that phrases like "morbid curiosity" are usually spelled perfectly.

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by nickd46 :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 5:48am

I'm willing to look past that for gems like "a two legged cat trying to bury a turd", which is how I'll be thinking of the Rams this season...

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by RickD :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 11:59am

Why is Shaun Hill rated so highly? Terrible completion percentage and fairly ordinary numbers elsewhere. It's not like the Titans have much of a pass defense to boost his numbers. I'd have thought he'd be below people like Palmer and Roethlisberger.

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by CaffeineMan :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 12:21pm

No opponent adjustments, though, right?

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by RickD :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 2:22pm

Oh, right. Forgot that the 'D' in the 'DYAR' column should be ignored for the time being.

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 12:32pm

No opponent adjustment, and 7.15 yards per attempt is superficially good. You have to factor that all of it occurred on the Vikings side of the field, and disappeared after crossing the 50, because a bad Titans defense only had to defend between the hashmarks and about 25 yards downfield, to get a sense of how limited Hill was. Credit him for not having any stupid turnovers, I guess.

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by JoeyHarringtonsPiano :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 12:34pm

Other stuff, like not taking sacks, and a lot of completions for 1st downs (even if they're 3rd and 4), can boost his numbers, but I can't say I watched Hill's performance closely, so I can't really say. As posted above, opponent adjustments aren't a factor yet. But we should make a mental adjustment to downgrade Hill for the fact that the Titans were probably focused on stopping Adrian Peterson.

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 12:42pm

They had a minimum of 8 in the box all day, and 9 in the box a good chunk of the time. If you can't throw for 250 yards against a defense with poor secondary talent, when it is aligned like that, your passing offense is beyong anemic. The protection really wasn't that bad either.

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by Eleutheria :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 2:09pm

Sacks are a massive, underappreciated negative in evaluating QBs that the base stats don't look at but DVOA does, and Hill had 0 of those.

And 11 of Hill's 18 completions were for first downs.

Take those two facts into account, and it's not too surprising that he ended so high up.

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by caleb462 :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 12:25pm

Not surprised to see two New Orleans receivers in the best column. The defense doesn't look to be much better than the past two (dreadful) years, but Brees having the trio of Snead/Cooks/Thomas to pass to might just be enough to win them 8 - 10 shootouts and have them just barely slide into the playoffs as a wild card. Granted that's me being an optimistic fan.

It's really too bad that so much of Brees' peak has been paired with terrible defenses.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 12:36pm

Brees really hasn't had a "Peak" nearly as he had had an "obnoxiously consistent plateau of excellence", though.

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by caleb462 :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 2:21pm

You're right - which just makes it even more infuriating that the franchise hasn't been able to surround him with solid teams on a more consistent basis.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:46pm

Well, the Saints have gone 94-65 when he has started, which is a pretty impressive win percentage. He's led the league in passing yards six times, made the playoffs five times, and helped the Saints be one of the more successful teams in the league for years prior to stumbling into mediocrity for the last few years. He's had some really good teams, but they just haven't won it all.

As a Bucs fan, I would have pretty much killed for that level of play for the last decade.

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by caleb462 :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 5:00pm

Yeah that's definitely a fair point. Certainly the Saints have been an overall success during the Brees era, and they've kept the offensive side of the ball pretty well stocked with support. It's just that considering that Brees is on the same level as the likes of Brady, Manning and Rodgers - it would have been nice to see that skill paired with a competent defense more often than it has been, or even a below average but playmaking/ballhawking defense like he had during the Super Bowl run.

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by Eleutheria :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 2:18pm

I'm surprised Brees is still in New Orleans.

There's no way the Saints are going to acquire the pieces to get to the Super Bowl between now and Bree's retirement in 2-3 years.

I thought they would mutually part ways, giving the Saints the chance to go through a proper rebuild and letting Brees sign with a team that would have a shot of getting him a 2nd ring.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 2:30pm

Which upcoming or contender should he go to?

Panthers - Cam Newton
Seattle - Wilson
Green Bay - Aaron Rodgers
Arizona - Carson Palmer
New England - Tom Brady
Steelers - Big Ben
Ravens - Flacco
Bengals - Dalton
Vikings - Bridgewater/Bradford
Colts - Luck
Giants - Eli
Cowboys - Romo/Prescott
Oakland - Derek Carr

The only possibles I'd see are
Denver - ?
Chiefs - he'd been an upgrade over Smith
Texans - if he'd gone before Osweiler signed

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by drobviousso :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 2:38pm

>Vikings - Bridgewater/Bradford

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 2:46pm

The quality of Vikings roster did not start to emerge until last year, and even then it wasn't right for Brees. You don't pay Brees a huge chunk of your cap, to stand behind the stiffs the Vikings had for blockers. As great as Brees is, he does need better blocking than some other, bigger, HOFqbs.

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by Eleutheria :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:11pm

I wonder if the Vikings tried the trade for Brees after Bridgewater went down.

Even if the Saints probably would have said no, it was probably worth a shot.

I'd want more than a 1st and a 4th for Brees if I was the Saints, but I do think they could have made a mutually beneficial trade. (assuming of course the Vikings have the cap space for Brees, which they might not)

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:14pm

It would not have been easy.

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by Eleutheria :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:07pm

Broncos, Chiefs and Texans are all choices to consider. My Primary choice would be the Jets, massive upgrade on Fitzpatrick.

And If we're going by 2016 DVOA projections, LA is also an option. Since the Rams didn't want to start Goff anyway, you let him develop behind Brees (like Rodgers did behind Favre) and give Brees 2 or 3 shots to win the Super Bowl first.

If Brees was on the trading block, Vikings could have traded for Brees instead of Bradford.

but your point is valid, the QB market is slimmer then we think when you actually look at the teams.

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:12pm

Again, the cap number Brees insists on commanding (and rightfully so) really makes a trade more difficult.

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by t.d. :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 5:57pm

He'd be a significant upgrade for the Cards, but he isn't Arians's type. Cincinnati would probably be the favorites to win the title with him, too.

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by mehllageman56 :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 11:46pm

Maybe, but I think the Bengals would be better off paying Dalton mid level money if he's going to throw for 366 yards even when he gets sacked 7 times and doesn't have Eifert. Plus he's younger.

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 2:39pm

I have kind of concluded that Mickey Loomis is a guy who was fortunate in a qb acquisition, made one good coaching hire, but otherwise isn't very good at his job.

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by Eleutheria :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 2:44pm

Completely agree.

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by caleb462 :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 5:50pm

Well, he just released CJ Spiller which now pushes the dead money the Saints are carrying on the salary cap up to 40 million dollars. Hey, they're #1!

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 6:03pm

It's a good thing they've decided to take a measured and cautious approach to the salary cap by not signing Drew Brees to another huge extension and kicking the salary cap can down the road.

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by caleb462 :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 9:49am

It is important to point out though that Loomis is only half the equation here. Sean Payton is the de facto co-general manager.

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by RickD :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 2:28pm

Brees feels more loyalty towards the Saints than your average NFL player might. Don't forget that the Chargers essentially gave up on him after he tore his labrum. The vibe with the Saints has always been positive. (He's essentially a living god in New Orleans.)

Don't be surprised if he retires a Saint.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 3:14pm

Absolutely. Brees arrived in New Orleans with Payton just after Hurricane Katrina and they made it their home and their community.

At this point the Saints need Brees. It's not like they've got an Aaron Rodgers or Jimmy Garropollo waiting in the wings to take over. Garrett Grayson, their 3rd round pick in 2015, was cut and resigned to the practice squad last week. You don't risk cutting your heir apparent if he's really the heir apparent.

Brees is 38 at the end of this season so reckon they'll be hanging onto him as long as he's capable of playing.

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by theslothook :: Thu, 09/15/2016 - 1:50am

One thing Manning and earlier favre showed - the end can come up on you very quickly. Manning went from being a mvp candidate to bad seemingly overnight. I don't know if it will happen to brees this year, but hes in that zone where it could strike at any minute.

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by dmstorm22 :: Thu, 09/15/2016 - 8:55am

At least with Favre it happened in the offseason. He went from amazing in 2009 to awful in 2010.

With Manning, it was in the middle of a season. He went from best QB in the NFL through 8 games in 2014, to mediocre at best in the last 8 games. Though you can argue, I guess, the real decline was the drop from mediocre at best to awful from the 2nd half of 2014 to 2015.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Thu, 09/15/2016 - 2:17pm

I have a theory that the decline gets masked by defenses still believing he's playing at his old level and not challenging him. Then once one team finds him beatable, there's film out there and it snowballs pretty quick.

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by dryheat :: Thu, 09/15/2016 - 9:26pm

I'll buy that.

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by Dachs :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 1:14pm

After sitting through that stinker last night since I needed Tavon to just put up decent numbers to get me a fantasy win, I can come to his defense somewhat in that almost all of the incompletions thrown his way were awful throws by Keenum. And poor play design/predictability in general leading to the WR screens getting blown up.

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by andrew :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 1:35pm

Yeah Casey Keenum had a bad day, but he kept his feet on the ground and kept reaching for the stars.

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by ChrisS :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 8:29pm

Double

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by ChrisS :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 2:58pm

According to a graphic in the KC/SD game, prior to this week Alex Smith's highest number of completions in a game was 29. That is amazing to me. I mean it is Alex Smith but in the pass-happy NFL that is hard to believe. This week alone 4 (non-Alex Smith) QB's had more than 29 completions.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:33pm

I remember looking at Alex Smith's career stats some years ago before he got traded to KC. Considering he'd usually been the starter in SF from 2005 - 2012, he only had one 300-yd game and his career high was 309yds.

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by Will Allen :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:44pm

Alex Smith spent the first part of his career being bad on bad teams. Then he had the good fortune to get paired with coaches who are excellent at hiding Alex Smith's deficiencies, which usually means not throwing more than 40 times. Same guy, different contexts; it's funny how so many NFL careers can be summed up in that fashion.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:55pm

Oh yes the SF years were tough with 5 OCs in 6 years. But when you're losing games that bad you sort of expect to get some garbage time yardage.

He's now got six 300+ yd games in 122 starts. Three with Kansas, three with SF.
His 3rd best yardage total is still only 311 yds!
He actually went 31 of 45 against the Bengals last year and the Steelers in 2014 so someone didn't research too well.

Anyway here's his record ... http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitAl03/gamelog/

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:59pm

Put it this way by comparison our old favourite whipping boy Sam Bradford has 12 300-yd games in 63 games, six of them with the Rams in four years.

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by Perfundle :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:48pm

His career can be divided into two halves. From 2005-2010 his team sucked, but he (and his supporting cast) wasn't good enough to complete many passes even when he had a lot of attempts. Then from 2011 onward his teams have been good to great, incredibly slow-paced and run-oriented, so he hasn't had to make that many passes. Similarly, Wilson never went over 25 completions in his first three years.

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by bravehoptoad :: Fri, 09/16/2016 - 11:12am

Can you believe the Yorks think of Alex Smith as "the one that got away?" They're still mad at Harbaugh for ditching him.

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by Vincent Verhei :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:15pm

General note: This goes up after the Monday night game because readers have said they prefer it as quickly as possible. That means there will be some errors. We genuinely appreciate it when readers point them out.

Pretend this is post 999. Typo under Case Keenum " On third downs, he went f-of-12 for 38 yards". I think it should be "On third downs, he went "ugly af"-of-12 for 38 yards"

5-of-12. Will fix.

Fondly remembering the days when Atlanta Falcons were in the NFC West

In 1995, the NFC "West" had five teams. Four of them were on or east of the Mississippi River.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1995/

Why is Shaun Hill rated so highly? Terrible completion percentage and fairly ordinary numbers elsewhere. It's not like the Titans have much of a pass defense to boost his numbers. I'd have thought he'd be below people like Palmer and Roethlisberger.

As others have said, getting through the game with no sacks was huge. Only six starting quarterbacks avoided sacks this week: Hill, Winston, Carr, Prescott, Gabbert, and Cousins. Hill's success rate of 42 percent was below average this week, but his 7.2 yards per play was better than average. With no sacks, no turnovers, and a decent day on third downs (5 conversions in 10 attempts, including conversions with 10 and 15 yards to go), and no opponent adjustments, it works out to a good game.

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by Flounder :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 3:43pm

Does DYAR treat a sack for 0 yards as worse than an incompletion, or are they the same?

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by mshray63 :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 4:18pm

Vince, any chance you could humor me & let me know what Doug Baldwin's DYAR was? If the play-by-play numbers on ESPN are accurate, he caught 9 of 11 balls, for 92 yds & a TD, with 6 other 1st downs (incl. two 3rd, and one 4th down conversion), and his only unsuccessful play was 4 yds on 2nd & 10.

Hero of the day, methinks.

HM to whoever hit Mario Williams hard enough to put him into the concussion protocol & save the O-line from itself.

de gustibus non disputandem est

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by Perfundle :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 6:42pm

36, according to the Wide Receiver page. It does seem a bit low, but then everyone ahead of him had a higher yards per target average except for Fitzgerald, and he had an extra TD.

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by Red :: Tue, 09/13/2016 - 11:44pm

Stafford's presence at the top reinforces what I've been saying forever: DYAR needs a YAC adjustment. Stafford's yardage was 2/3 YAC, and much of that was due to horrendous tackling by the Colts. I'm sorry, but the QB does not deserve full credit for passing plays where the receiver / bad defense does all the work.

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by Flounder :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 8:47am

That would require a truck-load of highly subjective work to even attempt. I have a hard time seeing it as realistic.

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by JoeyHarringtonsPiano :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 11:52am

That's what PFF is for, I guess. They rated Stafford's game as very good, but not best in the league. (Luck was much higher, for instance).

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by LionInAZ :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 8:45pm

What everyone seems to forget is that these DYAR ratings are subject to adjustment as the season progresses and more data comes in. And let's not forget the debate over how much YAC is attriibutable to WRs and QBs.

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by Megamanic :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 1:26am

Is it possible to do a pre and post Keenan Allen injury split for Philip Rivers?
Thanks in anticipation.

Never had my hopes for a season dashed so early in the year before. When #13 went down with what screamed ACL I knew we were done... :(

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by Anon Ymous :: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 11:25am

Do you read their subsequent defensive performance as the injury taking wind out of their sails or was their first half dominance more due to small sample size?