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01 Feb 2012

# Super Bowl XLVI Prop Bet Extravaganza!

by Tom Gower and Mike Kurtz

Tom: It is time for perhaps the greatest tradition associated with Scramble for the Ball: the Super Bowl prop bets column. While you can now find a multitude of sites on the internet devoted to breaking down any and every prop for degenerate gamblers a casino can throw out, few of them are in their ninth year of doing so. Mike, why don't you tell people what we're doing here anyway?

Mike: Sure.

It's that time of year again, the time of year when your Scramble writers run out of ideas amuse one and all with Super Bowl odds that people are actually betting on. I'll spare you the lecture about how this demonstrates the evils of gambling (ha ha, see what I did there?) and go straight into Scrambler Emeritus Al Bogdan's perennially-stolen explanation, adapted for the tenor of our times:

Most of these bets are whether a proposition is over or under the "line," usually total. For example:

Here, you would be betting on how many brain cells this week's installment of horror will destroy (and it isn't nearly as bad as last year's or one from the year before). You would have to choose either more or less than 9.5. Since football stats are generally whole numbers, most propositions won't have "push" as a viable option. If you were to bet that more than 9.5 of your little dudes would croak, you would have to wager a hypothetical \$105 to win \$205: your \$105 that you wagered plus \$100 more (hence the "-105"). If you wanted to take the under, you would wager a hypothetical \$100 to win \$230: your \$100 back, plus \$130 (hence the "+130"). Since I imagine your Scramble writers have almost certainly killed a number of your brain cells purely through fright at this point, the under is less likely to win, therefore you'd get more money if it actually does come through.

The other bets are those with many possible options, like wagering on who will score the first touchdown in the game. The odds there will be something like "Enrico Palazzo +500," meaning that if you wager a hypothetical \$100 on him and he scores the first touchdown, you'd win \$600. The line would probably be even higher, however, given that he's dead, and never played professional football in the first place.

For the purposes of determining a winner of this column, we're laying down 100 quatlus down on any of these "pick from a crowd" bets, and for over/unders we're wagering 100 on any overs where we're receiving positive odds (e.g. anything above +101) and wagering whatever it takes to win 100 on any overs where we're receiving negative odds (e.g. anything below -101).

Tom: Thank you, Mike (and Al, o near-certain champ of the Best of the Rest contest this year). Unfortunately, I have bad news. Thanks to the Chicago area not getting 20" of snow like it did last year at this time, this column is less than 14,000 words long in draft form.

Mike: Pity.

Tom: We'll just have to cram as much us-ness in fewer words then.

Mike: Is that even possible? Also, considering this is a 26-page column with a few dozen individual bets, I will note that complaining about consistency is, without a doubt, insane.

### The Props

#### Odds to win Super Bowl Most Valuable Player

-Eli Manning 5/2
-Rob Gronkowski 8/1
-Victor Cruz 12/1
-Hakeem Nicks 14/1
-Wes Welker 15/1
-Aaron Hernandez 15/1
-BenJarvus Green-Ellis 22/1
-Jason Pierre-Paul 30/1
-Deion Branch 35/1
-Brandon Jacobs 35/1
-Mario Manningham 35/1
-Antrel Rolle 75/1
-Justin Tuck 75/1
-Jerod Mayo 100/1
-Kyle Arrington 100/1
-Devin McCourty 100/1
-Osi Umenyiora 100/1
-Vince Wilfork 100/1
-Jake Ballard 100/1
-Lawrence Tynes 100/1
-Stephen Gostkowski 100/1
-Field 20/1

Tom: First up, the most valuable player. As I see it, we have two choices. First, assume a quarterback wins MVP, compare Brady and Manning's odds, and pick a winner. Second, pretend like a player at another position might win the Super Bowl MVP.

Mike: Brady and Manning both have the respect of the voters, unlike, say, Ben Roethlisberger, so pretend is the correct word.

Tom: Four of the past five MVPs have been quarterbacks, and at least for both of the Manning MVPs, they weren't obviously the best player in the game and won it anyway. Both Brady and Manning have won MVPs before, so who do you like better, Brady at 13/10 or Eli at 5/2?

Mike: Eli Manning, just because I like the Giants to win.

Tom: I wouldn't go that far, but for a relatively competitive line, that's a big disparity in odds. I like Eli Manning as well.

#### Player to score the first touchdown in the game?

-Rob Gronkowski (NE) TE 11/2
-Aaron Hernandez (NE) TE 15/2
-Victor Cruz (NYG) WR 15/2
-BenJarvus Green-Ellis (NE) RB 15/2
-Wes Welker (NE) WR 15/2
-Hakeem Nicks (NYG) WR 17/2
-Brandon Jacobs (NYG) RB 12/1
-Deion Branch (NE) WR 14/1
-Mario Manningham (NYG) WR 14/1
-Danny Woodhead (NE) RB 20/1
-Jake Ballard (NYG) TE 20/1
-Chad Ochocinco (NE) WR 25/1
-Stevan Ridley (NE) RB 25/1
-Tom Brady (NE) QB 25/1
-Travis Beckum (NYG) TE 35/1
-Julian Edelman (NE) WR 35/1
-Eli Manning (NYG) QB 35/1
-Bear Pascoe (NYG) TE 40/1
-D.J. Ware (NYG) RB 50/1
-Field 15/2
-No TD scored in the game 150/1

Tom: And, for some reason, Henry Hynoski doesn't get his own prop but instead gets lumped in with Field.

Mike: I'm always tempted to go with Field, but that's just foolish. I think I like Victor Cruz for this one. I think the Giants are going to try to take some early shots deep, and the Patriots are pretty lousy against the deep ball.

Tom: I'll go with Brandon Jacobs, just because I have no idea what the Patriots will do on offense and know the Giants like to try just pounding the ball.

Mike: Jacobs? Really? I didn't know you were old friends.

#### Player to score the first New York Giants touchdown in the game?

-Hakeem Nicks (NYG) WR 7/2
-Victor Cruz (NYG) WR 7/2
-Brandon Jacobs (NYG) RB 6/1
-Mario Manningham (NYG) WR 7/1
-Jake Ballard (NYG) TE 12/1
-Eli Manning (NYG) QB 15/1
-Travis Beckum (NYG) TE 16/1
-Bear Pascoe (NYG) TE 22/1
-D.J. Ware (NYG) RB 25/1
-Field 10/1
-No NYG TD in the game 10/1

Tom: Next prop is the first Giants touchdown, and I think we've answered that unless you want to try odds playing.

Mike: I don't see good enough odds to go against my pick of Cruz, no.

Tom: I do like the odds on Jacobs, at least more than the other alternatives. I was tempted to go with one of the quarterbacks.

#### Player to score the first New England touchdown in the game?

-Rob Gronkowski (NE) TE 11/4
-Wes Welker (NE) WR 4/1
-Aaron Hernandez (NE) TE 9/2
-BenJarvus Green-Ellis (NE) RB 9/2
-Deion Branch (NE) WR 15/2
-Danny Woodhead (NE) RB 12/1
-Tom Brady (NE) QB 14/1
-Chad Ochocinco (NE) WR 15/1
-Stevan Ridley (NE) RB 15/1
-Julian Edelman (NE) WR 20/1
-Field 10/1
-No NE TD in the game 10/1

Tom: And for the first Patriots touchdown, I'll go with Tom Brady, knowing the Patriots' love of the quarterback sneak.

Mike: While the odds are tempting, I think I'm going to go with Wes Welker. New York's secondary allows a shedload of yards after the catch.

Tom: Fair enough.

#### Coin toss

-Tails -105

Tom: And now we arrive at our first degenerate gambler prop of the game: a negative EV bet on the coin flip!

Mike: Good ol' tails.

Tom: I wasn't sure if you'd go with "Tails never fails" or "You always take heads."

Mike: I am very unpredictable.

Tom: For those of you who'd like to buy a replica of the Super Bowl coin, one of a limited edition of 10,000 can be yours for the low price of \$99.99 plus shipping (which is free if you buy two or more). I see that Lucas Oil Stadium is on the reverse side, so therefore I'm choosing the much more attractive observe with the Lombardi Trophy and the helmets covering the heads of the players.

Mike: Lucas Oil Stadium is pretty ugly.

#### Who will win the coin toss?

-New York Giants -105
-New England Patriots -105

Tom: And now, another negative EV bet: which team wins the coin toss?

Mike: Well, New York is the away team. So they will of course be wise and choose tails and win. Therefore, the Giants have my fake money.

Tom: If I was being a proper bettor, I'd go back and look at whether the Giants have picked heads or tails this season when they've had the choice, to see if there are any tendencies there. And then I'd have to decide whether to hedge my Heads pick or go all-in.

Mike: That kind of "proper" betting is how one ends up on a Victorian debtors prison.

Tom: Instead, I just flipped a coin, and it came up heads, so I'm picking the Giants as well.

#### Team to Score First in the Game

-New York Giants (Score First) -125
-New England Patriots (Score First) -105

Tom: I don't really get why, if the Patriots are favored, the Giants have the shorter odds here. An odds-driven Patriots pick for me.

Mike: Yeah, I have no idea what's going on with this, unless they're Patriots fans and figure the team will just sit out the first quarter "to make it sporting."

Tom: You mean like the Rams did in Super Bowl XXXVI?

Mike: Something like that, yeah. Patriots.

#### Will there be a Score in the First 7:30 of the first Quarter?

-Yes -280
-No +220

Mike: I think there will be, thanks to the Cruz Missile. Yes.

Tom: A great and terrible prop bet this can be. When the Colts snapped the ball with less than 7:30 gone in the first quarter and scored with more than 7:30 gone two years ago, they made this a tight loser. Of course, the first Giants-Patriots game didn't see a score in the first 34:30.

Mike: Like I said, I expect the Giants to take some shots downfield, and I think one of them will connect early. Have we mentioned that if you're actually betting on any of this, you're insane?

Tom: We will, of course, be reporting next week on how we actually fared using our fake money. And given our tendency, unlike some past Scramble writers, to generally not make completely insane bets for the heck of it, we will probably come out close to even as we've done the past two years. Then again, we may end up repeating somebody else's prior experience and losing half or more of a hypothetical five-figure bankroll.

Mike: You're talking about me, aren't you? Jerk.

Tom: Depending on your personal financial statement, there's a chance that sort of thing does not actually play nicely with "eating regular meals." We're writing the column for fun. Follow our wagers at your own risk. I know the odds here are more reasonable than they seem at first glance, but I'm still saying no score in the first 7:30.

Mike: I've had about enough of pandering to your "food" and "shelter" habits, Tom.

Tom: Fine, then. Degeneracy, ho!

#### New York Giants Total Team Points

-Over/Under 27

Mike: This is actually a very good line.

Tom: You'd almost think the people who set lines are professionals who do that kind of thing for a living, even.

Mike: Who would've thought? Anyway, New York put up 37 points on Green Bay, which has a secondary of similarly awful quality to New England, so I'm going to go with the over.

Tom: Ah, but New York only scored 24 on New England in the game in Foxborough earlier this season. I've been going back and forth on how I'm going to pick the nominally important "who wins this game" idea, but either way I do not expect the Giants to score more than 27. Under.

#### New England Patriots Total Team Points

-Over/Under 29.5

Tom: I just decided that for purposes of this column, I'm predicting Patriots 31 - Giants 24 as the final score, so over.

Mike: That's very definitive. I'm having a lot of trouble with this one, actually.

Tom: I'm 1-1 predicting the last two Super Bowls, having picked the Colts and Packers.

Mike: I think that New York's pass rush will get to Brady, and bad things happen to any quarterback when that happens, especially in a scheme so reliant on precise timing. I'll go with under.

#### New York Giants Total First Half Team Points

-Over/Under 13.5

Mike: I think this game is going to go slowly out of the blocks so Under.

Tom: I can't decide if the halftime score will be 17-14 or 14-10, and who will lead. Still, that's a 75 percent chance of more than 13.5, so Over.

#### New England Patriots Total First Half Team Points

-Over/Under 14.5

Tom: My logic causes me to say Under here.

Mike: I don't know why you bother making up scores that will almost certainly be incorrect. Just be honest and say you're going with your gut. My gut says this game starts slowly! Especially the Patriots, who usually are slow to start out on offense. Under.

#### Will the team that scores first win the game?

-Yes (Team Scores First Wins) -165
-No (Team Scores First Does Not Win) +135

Mike: Well, I picked the Giants to score first and to win, so this is a no-brainer for me. Yes.

Tom: While I picked a Giant to score first touchdown, I don't feel compelled to pick them here. Still, I'm guessing they will, and thus the answer is No.

#### Will Either team score three unanswered times in the game?

-Yes (Three Unanswered Scores) -190
-No (Three Unanswered Scores) +155

Mike: No is +155? Really?

Tom: This came up in one of our previous columns. It's much more likely than either of us thought without actually looking into it. I'm thinking Yes, actually.

Mike: I would agree, if these weren't two high-powered offenses with suspect secondaries on both sides. Two unanswered? Sure, incredibly likely. But I draw the line at three. No.

Tom: Even their 24-20 game, where all the scoring came in the second half, featured three unanswered scores.

#### Will the Team that Scores Last Win the Game?

-Yes (Team Scores Last Wins) -180
-No (Team Scores Last Does Not Win) +150

Mike: I actually think that should sum this game up nicely. Yes.

Tom: Team that scores last wins? I could buy that, sure. Yes.

#### Will there be a score in the final two minutes of the first half?

-Yes (Score in Final Two Minutes of First Half) -290
-No (Score in Final Two Minutes of FirFst Half) +230

Mike: I hope not, since the law of conservation of drama means that any dramatic two-minute drills must come at the end of the fourth quarter, not the second. So, in the interests of a fun ending to this game, I'm going to say No.

Tom: I'm not so sure that exciting ends of the first half and exciting ends of the second half are necessarily rivalrous goods. See, for instance, the Patriots-Panthers Super Bowl. Then again, you could argue from that same game that exciting ends to the halves and exciting first and third quarters go hand-in-hand. That's probably enough of that. I'm going with a reluctant Yes.

#### Will both teams have the lead during the first half?

-Yes (Both Teams Lead in First Half) -105
-No (Both Teams Do Not Lead in First Half) -125

Tom: I'll go with Yes, though without some elaborate justification for doing so.

Mike: I've decided I am rooting for the most dramatic game as possible, so the first half is the duelists eyeing each other and slowly circling, waiting to pounce. Not much happens during said circling, so I'll go with the Giants taking a lead and not relinquishing it until halftime. No.

Tom: That would set the stage for a quite dramatic second half.

#### Will the first half end in a tie?

-Yes (First Half Tied) +500
-No (First Half Not Tied) -800

Mike: Yes. Brady will throw a touchdown to tie it right before the two-minute warning.

Tom: Fair enough.

Mike: And we'll all sit around for 10 minutes as it is reviewed.

Tom: I've already declared the halftime score will be 17-14 or 14-10, so No.

Mike: And then New York will try to run, for some reason, during their two-minute drill, because they're New York.

Tom: Yes, they are, but they also do try to throw occasionally, and Eli has been good at bailing them out of third-and-longs this year.

#### Which Will be the Highest Scoring Quarter?

-First Quarter +265
-Second Quarter +170
-Third Quarter +300
-Fourth Quarter +220

Mike: The fourth, naturally.

Tom: The odds for the third seem a little bit longer than I expected here, but I concur the fourth, as it often is in close games.

#### Will the game go to overtime?

-Yes (Overtime) +650
-No (Overtime) -1200

Mike: No, because overtime is lame.

Tom: But not as lame as collegiate overtime! Anyway, I've already established this will be a 31-24 game without mentioning overtime. So there, No.

#### Will the Super Bowl be decided by exactly three points?

-Yes (Decided by 3 Points) +325
-No (Decided by 3 Points) -450

Tom: No, 31-24 = seven, not three.

Mike: You always say these things with such certainty. How close were your numbers to the actual outcomes last year?

Tom: I said 24-20, it was 31-25.

Mike: Yet you persist. Unless ... have you been talking to all those commenters from the early days? The ones that all had magic prediction systems?

Tom: Remember our introduction? I'm trying to hit the Under on "number of brain cells killed."

Mike: I'm on to your game. Still, No.

Tom: Hey, I did make money betting on last year's game. In fake betting, at least.

#### The largest points lead of the game by either team will be

-Over (Largest Lead) O 13.5 (-150)
-Under (Largest Lead) U 13.5 (+120)

Mike: I can see a two-touchdown lead pretty easily. Over.

Tom: Me too. Over.

#### Will there be a Lead Change in the Second Half?

-Yes (Lead Change in Second Half) +130
-No (Lead Change in Second Half) -160

Mike: Well, you need lots of lead changes in the high-scoring fourth quarter to have a dramatic game, so definitely, Yes.

Tom: I'm not completely sure on this one, given I'm not sure who will lead at halftime, but the odds advantage makes this Yes for me as well.

Mike: You were giving out precise numbers earlier! You are so hopeless.

#### Longest Touchdown Scored in the Game (Yardage)

-Over Yards (Longest Touchdown) O 49.5 (-115)
-Under Yards (Longest Touchdown) U 49.5 (-115)

Tom: This is another one of those annoying negative EV bets, and even though 49.5 seems long, it's actually not unreasonable. Unless you consider that the Patriots hardly ever throw the ball more than like 20 yards downfield, let alone with success. You'd either need the Giants to score, a ton of yards after catch, or both. Under.

Mike: Yeah, the Patriots just don't have a great long-ball setup and since they do account for half of this game, taking the over would be a bit silly. Under.

#### Will there be a Special Teams or Defensive Touchdown scored in the game?

-Yes (Defensive or Special Teams Touchdown) +150
-No (Defensive or Special Teams Touchdown) -180

Mike: Sure, why not. Yes. Drama!

Tom: Kickoff returns barely exist, and neither team is good at punt returning or horrible at either coverage unit, so you're likely depending on a defensive touchdown. No.

#### Will a Field Goal Attempt be Missed in the Game

-Yes (Missed Field Goal) EVEN
-No (Missed Field Goal) -130

Mike: No. I think these teams will opt to go for it when they're in long field goal range, because points will be at a premium.

Tom: Exactly, and these are not the first two coaches I would send to the Marv Levy Seminar on the Wisdom of Settling for Long Field Goal Attempts. No.

#### Total QB Sacks in the game

-Over Sacks O 4.5 (+120)
-Under Sacks U 4.5 (-150)

Tom: I have no confidence in this one, not that I do on any of the other ones, either. There were two sacks in the regular season game, so I'll go Under.

Mike: Consistent with my belief that this will be a passing-heavy game near the end and that New York will get to Brady, I'll go with the Over.

#### Will either team successfully convert a fourth down attempt?

-Yes (Fourth Down Converted) -230
-No (Fourth Down Converted) +190

Tom: Ooh, a prop bet I don't remember seeing before, and one near and dear to our hearts.

Mike: Nothing is more dramatic than a fourth-down conversion, so Yes.

Tom: As we mentioned with the avoidance of missed field goal attempts, these teams know better than to do anything other than go for it in the intermediate zone. Yes.

#### Total Number of Penalties Made in the Game by Both Teams

-Over (Penalties) O 10.5 (-115)
-Under (Penalties) U 10.5 (-115)

Tom: They totaled 13 in the regular season game. They had 9 in Super Bowl 42. I'll go with Over.

Mike: The officials have been "letting them play" this postseason. Almost all of the playoff games we've seen have been pretty loose, so I think 10.5 seems a bit high in light of that. Under.

#### Will a Two-Point Conversion be Attempted in the Game?

-Yes (Two-Point Conversion Attempted) +210
-No (Two-Point Conversion Not Attempted) -270

Mike: The dramatic failed two-point conversion near the end that would have tied it, naturally. Yes.

Tom: No, not at all.

#### Margin of Victory

-New York Giants 1 to 3 Points 11/2
-New York Giants 4 to 6 Points 8/1
-New York Giants 7 to 10 Points 7/1
-New York Giants 11 to 13 Points 12/1
-New York Giants 14 to 17 Points 12/1
-New York Giants 18 to 21 Points 15/1
-New York Giants 22 or More Points 20/1
-New England Patriots 1 to 3 Points 9/2
-New England Patriots 4 to 6 Points 13/2
-New England Patriots 7 to 10 Points 5/1
-New England Patriots 11 to 13 Points 9/1
-New England Patriots 14 to 17 Points 9/1
-New England Patriots 18 to 21 Points 12/1
-New England Patriots 22 or More Points 10/1

Tom: I've already said New England by seven, so I'll take my 5/1 and be happy with it.

Mike: I like the odds on Giants 4-6 points. Let's say after the failed two-point conversion, New York kicks a field goal. Why not?

Tom: Delightful.

### Historical Matchups

Mike: Oh, I bet the bookies were salivating over this one. Usually you have to reach back, at least in the NFC, for historical matchup propositions. Here, they have it made: these teams were both in the Super Bowl (against each other, no less!) within the past five years. That does make this section a bit more boring than usual, however, since we don't get to compare, say, Eli Manning to Phil Simms.

#### Who will have more Passing Yards?

-Eli Manning Super Bowl XLII (255 Yards) +59.5 (-110)
-Eli Manning Super Bowl XLVI -59.5 (-120)

Mike: I like Eli's chances of getting past 305, so Super Bowl XLVI.

Tom: 305 is just a really big total, especially considering Green Bay was Eli's first 300-yard passing game in the postseason. Super Bowl XLII.

#### Who will have more Passing Yards?

-Tom Brady Super Bowl XLII (266 Yards) +53.5 (-110)
-Tom Brady Super Bowl XLVI -53.5 (-120)

Mike: 320?! that's a serious line?

Tom: Over -130, Under even.

Mike: Still, wow.

Tom: People must think 300-yard passing games are more frequent than they really are.

Mike: Apparently. 320 is just way too much. Super Bowl XLII. With extreme prejudice.

Tom: I concur. Super Bowl XLII.

#### Who will record more Rushing Yards?

-Ahmad Bradshaw Super Bowl XLII (45 Yards) +14.5 (-105)
-Ahmad Bradshaw Super Bowl XLVI -14.5 (-125)

Tom: Basically this is Bradshaw 56.5, as opposed to the later straight O/U of 60.5.

Mike: This is a tough one.

Tom: Apparently the difference between Bradshaw 60.5 and 56.5 rushing is that the 56.5 rushing over is -125, as opposed to even.

Mike: I think that this game is going to feature Bradshaw more heavily than Jacobs, so I'll take XLVI.

Tom: Even though I picked Jacobs to score the first touchdown, I concur, and will also go XLVI.

#### Who will record more Rushing Yards?

-Laurence Maroney Super Bowl XLII (36 Yards) +9.5 (-115)
-BenJarvus Green-Ellis Super Bowl XLVI -9.5 (-115)

Mike: I'm going to go with Law Firm and XLVI, just because I love his nickname.

Tom: I just don't see the Patriots running that much and doubt he gets enough carries. Maroney and Super Bowl XLII.

### Individual Props

#### Total Passing Attempts – Eli Manning ((NYG)

-Over/Under 38.5

Tom: Pretty close to the first game's total of 39, but I'm going to guess a little Under.

Mike: They probably just lifted it from the first game. I think the Giants will actually try to get Bradshaw involved in some significant way, so Under.

#### Total Completions - Eli Manning (NYG)

-Over/Under 24.5

Mike: I like how they make sure to mention that Eli Manning plays for the Giants. Either that, or they're entertaining the possibility that he switches sides during halftime, and want to make sure that only his completions for the Giants count.

Tom: He didn't have a good game on the accuracy front in the first contest, hitting only 20 of his 39 attempts. Your math of the day is 24.5 completions in 38.5 attempts, which is a 63.6 percent completion rate. Eli is below that on the season, and the Patriots are below that on defense, even with their secondary. That to me says Under, especially if you think he's going anywhere close to under on attempts.

Mike: Anyway, Manning is pretty accurate when he doesn't have to deal with wind, and the roof will be closed. Probably still not 63.6 percent accurate, however, especially since they're going to have a pretty vertical passing game. Under.

-Over/Under 85.5

#### Total Receptions – Hakeem Nicks (NYG)

-Over/Under 5.5

Mike: Well, Eli needs to throw at least four passes for Manningham to drop, and then a ton of wild shots down the field in the general direction of Cruz, so I think five is a pretty good number for Nicks. Under 5.5 receptions. 85.5 yards is way, way too high. Under 85.5 yards.

Tom: I'll go over on receptions and under on receiving yards. I'm thinking something like six catches for 80 yards. That's pretty close to an average-ish performance. Actually, I'll go over on yards as well. He's a beast and the competition isn't stiff.

-Over/Under 89.5

#### Total Receptions – Victor Cruz (NYG)

-Over/Under 5.5

Mike: I think Cruz will get the majority of the attention. He will probably be covered by Devin "Pro Bowl Cornerback" McCourty, who as you may recall, chopped a lot of wood this year. I think Over is good for receptions. As I said earlier, I think he'll be running in a straight line very fast and very often, basically as often as the Giants think he can still move. I foresee Over 89.5 yards in his future.

Tom: Cruz had a big first half against the 49ers, but otherwise has been held in relative check for most of this postseason. He had a reasonable game against Green Bay, which was just under this by a little bit, but it seems like teams are starting to figure him out when he doesn't score a long touchdown. Under on both.

-Over/Under 5.5

#### Total Sacks Jason Pierre-Paul (NYG)

-Over .5 (-210)
-Under .5 (+170)

Tom: Well, he only has .5 sacks in the playoffs thus far.

Mike: I think New England is smart enough to stay away from him, considering the tear he has been on, so I think Under on tackles.

Tom: Like most defensive linemen, he seems to get most of his tackles on running plays. New England is a tactical running team. I see Under on tackles as well.

Mike: Sacks ... it just takes one play, really. I think the Giants will bring the heat in order to get in Brady's head, which means he'll have a lot of opportunities, and I think that turns into at least one sack. Over.

Tom: It does just take one play. I'll say Over as well.

#### Total Touchdown Passes – Tom Brady (NE)

-Over 2.5 (-130)
-Under 2.5 (EVEN)

Mike: See, this just includes passes

Tom: It does, alas.

Mike: I think you're right: Brady is a wily sneaker. That said, this is going to be a very high-scoring game, so I think three is probably around the number, allowing for a Law Firm vulture and a sneak. Over.

Tom: I'm not sure the Patriots score five touchdowns, but even if they score four, that leaves room for a sneak and an Over.

#### Total Interceptions – Tom Brady (NE)

-Over .5 (-150)
-Under .5 (+120)

Mike: I think the pressure is going to get to him. As I said for Pierre-Paul, it only takes one play. For all his mystique, Brady throws just as many boneheaded interceptions as any other elite quarterback, as we saw last week. Over.

Tom: See, I think with two weeks of preparation, one of the things that will be stressed to him is the need to not give away plays like that. I'm going Under.

#### Total Rushing Attempts – BenJarvus Gree-Ellis (NE)

-Over/Under 12.5

Tom: As I indicated, I don't see Green-Ellis playing a big role in this game. I'm going Under.

Mike: 13 rushes isn't a whole lot considering he is clearly the primary back and the specter of mastermindering could lurk over this game. I'm going with Over.

-Over/Under 82.5

#### Total Receptions – Wes Welker (NE)

-Over/Under 6.5

Tom: He's had a relatively quiet playoffs thus far, but had a big game against the Giants in the regular season meeting.

Mike: Welker is Brady's binky, and while my daughter never used a pacifier, I have seen the allure they hold for children that do first-hand. It is a great and powerful thing.

Tom: I see him getting a lot of short passes over the middle designed to take advantage of the telepathic link and angles, so receptions is an easy over.

Mike: Over on receptions. And as I said, the Giants secondary is very bad against slow, shifty possession receivers, by virtue of their inability to tackle. Over on yardage.

Tom: I'm less sure on yardage, but I'll go Over there as well.

-Over/Under 82.5

#### Total Receptions – Rob Gronkowski (NE)

-Over/Under 6

Tom: As we sit on Monday, we're not really sure what his health status is. Somebody, I believe Adam Schefter, is apparently reporting nobody believes he'll be 100 percent healthy on Sunday. Then again, his father leaking news that his ankle sprain is worse than previously reported could be classic mastermindering.

Mike: We must always be vigilant against the masterminderingers. I think regardless of whether he is 100 percent, he'll be on the field in the red zone, if only as a decoy.

Tom: I'm going to take the injury reports at something like face value and assume that Hernandez, as a move tight end who is not injured, presents a serious matchup threat in his own right. Hernandez will be the beneficiary, and Gronk goes under on both.

Mike: That doesn't help him much, but even decoys get open from time to time, and there's no guarantee that he won't be healthy enough for seven receptions. Sure, I'll go with the Over on receptions. No way he goes near 83 yards, though. Under.

#### Total Tackles & Assists – Patrick Chung (NE)

-Over/Under 5.5

Tom: Patrick Chung had 4.5 tackles against the Giants in their regular season meeting, then missed the next seven games.

Mike: He is quite the conundrum.

Tom: Since his return, he's had 4.0, 2.5, and 3.5 tackles, crediting assists at half a tackle. This number seems high.

Mike: On the other hand, the Patriots haven't faced a passing offense nearly this competent since he's returned.

Tom: I grant you that, but he's had four solo tackles in three weeks.

Mike: But he magically fixed the Patriots defense when he came back, remember? I get the feeling he's going to be playing a lot of clean-up, though. I can see him getting to six. Over.

Tom: Unless he gets the benefit from the Indianapolis scorer of a bunch of cleanup assists, I feel like this is an easy under.

#### Total Sacks Mark Anderson (NE)

-Over .5 (-130)
-Under .5 (EVEN)

Mike: Eli is going to try to make at least one play when he really has no business doing so. Maybe it'll be the Tyree Catch Part II, but it's more likely thatit'll be a sack. Over.

Tom: Maybe, but will Anderson be the beneficiary or the flusher? I'm betting flusher. Under.

#### Who will reach 100 Passing Yards First?

-Eli Manning (NYG) QB -115
-Tom Brady (NE) QB -115

#### Who will reach 10 Completions First?

-Eli Manning (NYG) QB -110
-Tom Brady (NE) QB -120

Tom: More negative EV propositions! Then again, these may have some element of actual "wagering skill" involved, though, and are not just pure chance like the coin toss.

Mike: I think that each of these propositions are tailor-made to their respective teams. The Giants will play a relatively low-percentage long-ball strategy, while the Patriots will go with their usual "death by a thousand cuts" approach. I think Eli is first to 100 yards, but Brady is first to 10 completions.

Tom: We seem to be operating as part of a hive mind, as I was thinking very much along the same lines: Brady first to 10 completions, Eli first to 100 yards.

### Cross-Sport Props

Tom: And now my favorite part of the prop bets, the cross-sport props. Shocking though it may be, there are other, non-Super Bowl events going on this Sunday. In this section of the column, we decide how completely unrelated events will compare to each other.

Mike: Be still my beating heart.

Tom: And apparently Cleveland is playing, as we get several LeBron James props. Oh, wait, LeBron isn't in Cleveland, he's in Miami. I guess Cleveland had to find a new basis for their economy.

Mike: Well played, sir.

Tom: That video never gets old.

Mike: That stamp sculpture is really stupid.

#### What will be higher?

-Eli Manning Completions Pick (+120)
-Lebron James Points Pick (-150)

Mike: I suppose this is the revenge prop bet, considering how LeBron spurned the Knicks, disappointing the five die-hard Knicks fans who actually convinced themselves that James was going to join their team?

Tom: I think it's more just "find two numbers that might be close," though of course if you want to build narratives off of that, go ahead.

Mike: We are football writers. Basically all we do is build narratives.

Tom: Unfortunately, I don't think I drink nearly enough alcohol to be a Real Football Writer. Anyway, the Heat are playing the Raptors.

Mike: That is a basketball team!

Tom: They are! And they haven't changed their name since I last noted their existence!

Mike: That is a rare quality in an NBA franchise.

Tom: Basketball-reference tells me the Raptors are an average defensive team and a bad offensive team. James is averaging 29.5 points per game, though, so Eli's low completion total will still leave him under LeBron.

Mike: I remember people whining about James on the news last night, so it seems that he's on a bit of a streak, maybe? Sure, why not. We'll go with James.

#### What will be higher?

-Wes Welker Receptions Pick (-115)
-Lebron James Assists Pick (-115)

Tom: James is averaging 7.0 assists per game, while Welker's o/u is of course 6.5 receptions.

Mike: Honestly, I'd take Welker receptions against James field goals.

Tom: FGM? He averages 10.7. I wouldn't go that far, though I would still take Welker here.

#### What will be higher?

-Tom Brady Touchdown Passes Pick (-130)
-Ray Allen Three-Point Shots made in the game Pick (+100)

Tom: Now we get a true Boston prop. The Celtics play the Knicks, and Allen averages 2.7 threes per game.

Mike: I'm going to go with Allen, just because why should LeBron be the only one kicking the Knicks around?

Tom: The Knicks do seem to be a below-average team defending the three-point shot, so I'll go with Allen as well.

#### What will be higher?

-Tom Brady Touchdown Passes Pick (-115)
-Boston Bruins Total Team Goals Pick (-115)

Tom: The Bruins are playing the Flyers on Sunday. The Bruins lead the league in goals, and the Flyers are average or a little below defensively. I think Brady will throw three touchdown passes, so what are the odds the Bruins score four or more goals as opposed to two or fewer? I'll be optimistic and say they add to Philly's woes. Bruins.

Mike: Four goals really isn't a massive number in the new NHL. That said, Brady may have four touchdowns. Who knows! I hate the Flyers, so we'll go with Bruins.

#### What will be higher?

-New York Giants Total Team Points Pick (-115)
-Henrik Lundqvist Saves Pick (-115)

Mike: Really?

Tom: Really.

Mike: They really don't think the Giants are going to score much, do they?

Tom: Lundqvist has played in 36 games and has 1019 saves. That's 28.3, and the Giants O/U is 27.

Mike: Which, as we went over earlier, I think is a bit low considering the quality of defense they are facing. Giants.

Tom: Trust in the Giants, you do. Have faith in the Rangers defense, I do not. Lundqvist.

### Whatever Device You Are Using to Read This Column is Stupid and Lame

Mike: Honestly, who takes notes on their tablet?

Tom: Well, seeing as I don't own one, I don't. A law school classmate did.

Mike: Maybe -- maybe if you have a real keyboard, it might make sense to do so, sacrificing the benefit of layout by fiat for a digital format to your notes, but virtual keyboards are pretty awful.

Tom: This was more of the PDA-style tablet, though, and she carried around a regular keyboard to type on and used the tablet as a small laptop.

Mike: Right, that at least kind of makes sense. Here, everybody is using some gimpy crappy tablet office software to take notes that get shuffled away and never seen again because they forget what they named the file in their rush to leave.

Tom: Anybody who's ever had me send them a half-done email because I was typing on my Blackberry phone can attest to the non-optimal effect of non-full size keyboards on fat fingers.

Mike: But that's not what this commercial is really about. It's about having the cool toys and everyone but this poor sad sack has the new hotness.

Tom: It's not even about having the cool toys so much. This is a business meeting. If it made that much sense for everybody at the company to have a tablet, the company would buy everybody a freaking tablet. I am aware of this having happened in the real world.

Mike: Yeah, that much makes sense, but no, this is a low-tech shaming. What a rube this guy is. Using that old, stupid, reliable, and useful technology when he can use this new shiny thing and only be slightly less productive!

Tom: Ah, but it isn't reliable technology. See the wet patch on his shirt?! Personally, when I carry a pen, which is most of the time, I carry it in my pants, not my shirt pocket.

Mike: I have yet to see a pen actually explode like that. I've actually had nosebleeds that stained my shirt. Never a pen.

Tom: This feels more like a tablet commercial than an EBay commercial, though. I know, they show non-identical tablets.

Mike: That's rather my point. You, the non-tablet-owning viewer, are suddenly very self-conscious about your lack of a tablet. Fortunately, this helpful commercial just showed you how to rectify this situation immediately!

Tom: Drive to Best Buy after work, buy one, and come to work with it the next day?

Mike: You actually go to physical stores? That is so three years ago.

Tom: I may be a ridiculous stereotype of a suburbanite who's in the city like five times a year, but my residence is still conveniently located next to major shopping centers. If I were to buy a tablet, I would want one I could physically handle before doing so. Physical stores are quite handy for that sort of thing. Even when they don't have quite the same array of tablet variety as this conference room.

Mike: Well, they didn't want to offend anybody, since these sorts of people are rabid about associating with a brand, you basically not only have a racially and gender-wise balanced cast, but now also a brand-balanced suite of tablets! I'm sure they had to hire another marketing intern for that.

Tom: Yes, but despite their scorn for him, let's not pretend that all tablets are created equal. Once he has a tablet, the mocking will switch to the owner of the oldest and least powerful tablet. For all he knows, he may be mocked at the next day or the next week's meeting for his terrible tablet instead of his pen and paper.

Mike: True, if there's anything worse than not following the trend, it's following yesterday's trend. But this is comforting, in a way. Engineers, particularly those who are -- ahem -- vocal on various websites, constantly scorn people for their vapidness. As we see here, there are always nerdy ways to be a useless, vapid person! So hooray for us! We are all terrible people, every one!

### The Weird Stuff

#### How long will it take Kelly Clarkson to sing the National Anthem?

-Over/Under 1 minute 34 Seconds

Tom: 1:34 seems like a very short over/under for a celebrity anthem, even if it is more or less how long Clarkson's past renditions have been.

Mike: The few anthems I've seen this year have been longer than I remember them being. Since we have long since left any sort of rationality or lip-service to causation behind, I'm going to say Over based on that.

Tom: Over for me as well.

#### What will Kelly Clarkson wear to sing the National Anthem?

-Super Bowl XLVI or official NFL shirt 2/1
-Patriots Jersey or shirt 12/1
-Colts Jersey or shirt 12/1
-Giants Jersey or shirt 15/1
-Anything else 1/3

Tom: I really can't see an anthem singer wearing a jersey from one of the teams involved. Even when Faith Hill sang the Super Bowl XXXIV anthem after singing the anthem at a Titans game earlier that year, she didn't wear a Titans jersey. I'll go with Anything else.

Mike: There is zero chance that the league lets her wear anything that would suggest favoritism, and she has enough taste to not wear some branded Super Bowl or NFL shirt, so I'm with Anything else as well. Also, 5/2 seems like really stupid odds for someone forgetting/omitting a word from the national anthem. Clarkson is enough of a professional that she can remember the words to a song she has been signing her entire life.

Tom: Maybe it's just me, but I've actually forgotten the words to the anthem when asked to write them down cold before. Granted, I seem to have an exceptionally poor memory for getting songs absolutely 100 percent correct, but that surprised me when it happened.

Mike: Are you a professional singer who is often paid to sing this song?

Tom: I'm closer to a professional non-singer who is paid not to sing any songs.

Mike: So probably not the best comparison, no.

Tom: Fair enough.

#### What color will Madonna's hair be when she begins the Super Bowl Halftime show?

-Blonde -400
-Any other color +250

Tom: Moving on to the halftime show, I enjoy the prop that specifies the color of her hair at the start of the halftime show, as though it might change at some point during the show.

Mike: Well, they do need to be specific. My question is: do wigs count? I don't know why they did not allow for this eventuality.

Tom: I would presume it's the apparent color of her hair. In that case, I would guess a wig she's wearing and then discards would count.

Mike: Ah, but you know what assumptions do. They let the book choose whichever side makes them win more.

Tom: Funny, and I just thought they make us attorneys write documents that are 58 pages long instead of three, which leads to everybody else hating us.

Mike: I have to go with blonde. Has Madonna done anything in public in any other hair color in the past decade?

Tom: I have no idea if Madonna's actually done anything in public in the last decade. I may not have noticed her existence at any point in the last decade unless she did something Super Bowl-related that I'm not remembering off the top of my head.

Mike: That's true, you really are the last person to ask about that.

Tom: But I'll go with blonde as well, just because that seems to be her iconic hair color.

#### Will Madonna wear a hat at any point during the Super Bowl Halftime show?

-Yes +150
-No -200

Mike: I like the hat prop, mostly because hats are classy, and more people should wear hats in all circumstances.

Tom: Hats today mostly means "baseball caps," which generally does not mean classy.

Mike: Which brings up the age-old question: is a closed dome "indoors" for purposes of hatiquette?

Tom: From my Lucas Oil Stadium experience, it can appear pretty "outdoors"-y with the sunlight streaming in. Then again, with a kickoff at 6:30 PM local time, sunlight probably won't be a factor.

Mike: I'm going to go with "outdoors," then, so we can avoid any potential faux paus.

Tom: Enjoy your classy hat world, then, because she's not wearing one. No.

Mike: Keep hope alive! Yes.

#### How many times will Peyton Manning be shown on TV during the game?

-Over/Under 3.5

Mike: Four times is an awful lot of shots for someone who isn't Robert Kraft.

Tom: I don't remember how NBC broadcast the Cardinals-Steelers Super Bowl, but CBS and Fox the last two years have shown a lot fewer "famous people in the crowd" shots than we anticipated. Under.

Mike: Yeah, Under.

#### How many times will Robert Kraft be shown on TV during the game?

-Over/Under 3.5

Tom: And speaking of ... even if you're Robert Kraft, you're not getting shown on TV four different times before the game is over. Under.

Mike: My earlier statement was a joke, yes. He'll get two shots. Under.

#### How many times will Giselle Bundchen be shown on TV during the game?

-Over .5 (-150)
-Under .5 (+110)

Mike: I think the world is over the Giselle story. Under.

Tom: If the Patriots win, you could get a celebratory-type shot. Over.

#### How many times will David Tyree's 2008 Super Bowl catch be shown be shown on TV during the game?

-Over/Under 1

Mike: That ... is actually a really tricky one. There will absolutely be one. I suppose it depends on whether there is a similar play. As they come back from a post-halftime commercial they'll have a little bit about it, I assume, and if there is a long, questionable pass in the second half, they'll probably show it again.

Tom: You're ignoring that NBC has way too much televised programming to plug during the game itself for them to spend time delving into historical curiosities.

Mike: It's hardly a historical curiosity! It's one of the most famous plays in Super Bowl history. Recent Super Bowl history, at least.

Tom: It's about as relevant to this game as FOX thought downfield coverage shots were to its game broadcasts this season.

Mike: Who cares if it's relevant? It's good television. Over.

Tom: Bah. Under.

#### How many times will Andrew Luck be mentioned on TV during the game?

-Over/Under 1

Mike: Now, is mentions segments about Luck, or uses of his name?

Tom: Mentions on TV during the game, it would appear.

Mike: I think that's an easy over, just because Brady is playing, which means comparisons to Peyton Manning. And Eli Manning is playing, which means they'll talk about Peyton Manning, and it is impossible to talk about Manning without talking about the current Colts situation, which means Andrew Luck.

Tom: They're not plugging Peyton's next game. He won't exist unless Eli wins, and Luck won't exist at all. Under.

Mike: Oh, that's nonsense. You can't have a rivalry as big as Manning-Brady and have Brady in the Super Bowl again and not have a mention of Peyton Manning and the Colts' implosion. Again, it's great TV.

Tom: We'll just have to see about that one.

Mike: Indeed. Over.

#### What Color will the Gatorade be that is dumped on the Head Coach of the Winning Super Bowl Team?

-Yellow 7/4
-Orange 9/4
-Clear/Water 3/1
-Red 11/2
-Green 6/1
-Blue 10/1

Tom: Fruit punch is still my favorite Gatorade flavor, but I imagine it'd be a pain to get out of any uniforms short of the Texans ketchup bottle, er, Battle Red, monstrosities. Yellow.

Mike: I prefer lime, but green just isn't happening. I'll go with Clear/Water.

#### Who will the Super Bowl MVP of the Game thank first?

-Teammates 2/1
-God 7/2
-Owner 7/2
-Family 7/1
-Coach 12/1
-Does Not Thank Anyone 11/4

Tom: As we learned from Drew Brees' speech, declaring greatness does not count as thanking.

Mike: What a dark, dark time that was.

Tom: Dark? That was awesome! I feel like this one needs a Field answer.

Mike: I think that's "nobody," really. Sadly, Beezelbub isn't on the li -- wait, "Coach." Sorry, Bill, I wasn't paying attention.

Tom: Thanking people is so 2008. Does Not Thank Anyone.

Mike: I'm going with Teammates, just because I think there's a good chance Eli is the MVP and he would probably think it terribly impolite to not do so immediately. He will then doff a fedora. In my mind.

#### What will the TV Rating be for the Super Bowl?

-Over/Under Nielsen Rating 47.5

Mike: Last year's rating was the highest ever, right? I can't recall exactly what it was.

Tom: 46.0. It tied Super Bowl XXX for the highest rating since the Super Bowl Shuffling Bears drew a 48.3.

Mike: Two very large markets, plus a much-hyped rematch. I have to say Over.

Tom: This would be a relatively big bump over two teams with broad nationwide popularity. Betting against the NFL is never a good idea, especially with two large markets involved, but I'm going to say Under.

#### How many average viewers will the game have?

-Over/Under 115 Million Viewers

Tom: Last year saw 111 million, which did indeed set a record.

Mike: Consistent with my previous answer, I'm going with Over.

Tom: I'm going to be consistent as well and go with Under. Considering we can't really run the results of props like Patriots win and Bruins win Stanley Cup next week, that will be our final prop of the year. Make your own picks in the comments, though you'll have to keep track of your own results!

Tune in next week for a lot of crow and confusion, and quite a bit of bad math from both your Scramble writers and your fellow commenters. Plus, since we like to end the year on a high note, we'll announce the FO Playoff Fantasy Challenge winner, The Best of the Rest winner (Al Bogdan), and a few of our favorite commercials from this year's Super Bowl.

Posted by: Mike Kurtz and Tom Gower on 01 Feb 2012

54 comments, Last at 05 Feb 2012, 7:34pm by shaezychick

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by White Rose Duelist :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 5:10pm

Oh, look, another column Barnwell "borrowed" for grantland.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by dmstorm22 :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 6:07pm

To be fair, a lot of sites run columns describing their prop bets. In fact, I definitely doubt FO was the first site to run something like this.

Audibles is a different story. That looks like a complete ripoff.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by DL (not verified) :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 5:10pm

My guess on the "Team to Score First" prop is that NE always defers, so the Giants are favored by virtue of being way more likely to have first possession.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Boo-urns (not verified) :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 7:54pm

That's the correct answer. NYG almost certainly will start with the ball, so they have a much higher probability of scoring first.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Rabbit :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 8:22pm

That's debatable. Not only is it not given that Coughlin would receive if he won the flip (Fox didn't), Pats offense is far more efficient than Giants. So even if he were to receive, why would the odds strongly favor his team scoring first?

Pats have the better offense. They should be favored to score first, regardless of flip.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 5:12pm

Team to Score First in the Game

-New York Giants (Score First) -125
-New England Patriots (Score First) -105

Possibly because the Patriots usually defer to the 2nd half when they win the toss? Don't the Giants usually take the ball?

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Rexy :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 5:25pm

"First, assume a quarterback wins MVP, compare Brady and Manning's odds, and pick a winner. Second, pretend like a player at another position might win the Super Bowl MVP."

I think that is kind of shortsighted

3 of the last 7 Super Bowl MVPs were not QBs (Holmes, Ward, Deion Branch). I know, small sample size. However,

5 of the last 11 (Dexter Jackson, Ray Lewis)
8 of the last 16 (T. Davis, Desmond Howard, the immortal Larry Brown)
11 of the last 23 (Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Ottis Anderson)

Super Bowl MVPs have been non-QBs. I think it is certainly fair to downgrade the non QB chances because of Brady and Eli, but Deion Branch does have an MVP in a game won by New England.

Looking at that list, it seems that they break down into
- Defensive stars/guys who had a fluky play or game on a team without an elite QB (D. Jackson, Ray Lewis, Larry Brown)

- Elite or very good position players who had great games (Rice, Emmitt, Terrell Davis, Holmes, Ottis "my man!")

- Other (Ward, Desmond Howard)

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Theo :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 8:00pm

Ward had 5 receptions for 123 yards incl that TD from El. (Ben had 123 yards total)
Ward also ran the ball for 18 yards and was the center piece of that offense.
I'd say he belongs in the "Elite or very good position players who had great game" department.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by RickD :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 1:29am

Desmond Howard was a horrible choice for Super Bowl MVP. Should have been Reggie White.

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by omaholic :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 5:30pm

Hey, it's Enrico Palazzo!

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by Kevin from Philly :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 8:47pm

He saved the Queen!

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Rexy :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 5:32pm

A contrary MVP bet might be to bundle a few of the elite/very good position players-I would rule out RBs-to expand your coverage. Maybe take 3 guys from the Cruz/Nicks and Gronkowski/Welker groups and still have better winning odds than Eli or especially Brady. Maybe take a small flyer on the field too at 20:1 for a Dexter Jackson situation

Just a thought.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by RickD :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 7:27pm

I like this approach.

Additionally, I love Wilfork at 100-1.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by socccer101 :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 5:33pm

The Giants are favored to score first because they never defer while the Patriots often defer. Accordingly, the Giants are considerably more likely to possess the ball first. I could complete the explanation as to why first possession makes the Giants to more likely to score first, but I feel that would just insult your intelligence.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by omaholic :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 5:34pm

My only thought on why the Giants are -125 to score first even thought the Patriots are favored is that the Patriots are likely to defer if they win the toss.

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by omaholic :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 5:52pm

er...I see many have had the same thought.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by MatMan :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 5:56pm

Did you mean "doff" or "don?"

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Mike Kurtz :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 8:17pm

Doff. He, being a gentleman, will have already donned his hat. But upon receipt of this honor and while he is thanking his compatriots, he will of course doff said hat, as a sign of respect.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by JIPanick :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 6:36pm

Let's see if I can beat both of y'all.

MVP: Eli
First TD: Jacobs
First Giant TD: Ballard
First Pat TD: Gronkowski
Coin Toss: Tails
Score First: Patriots
Score in first 7:30: No
Giants O/U 27: Under*
Patriots O/U 29.5: Under
Giants First Half O/U 13.5: Under
Patriots First Half O/U 14.5: Under
Scores First Wins: No
Three Unanswered Scores: Yes
Scores Last Wins: No
Two Minute Score, First Half: No
Lead Change, First Half: Yes
First Half Tied: Yes
Highest Scoring Quarter: Third
Overtime:
3 Point Decision:
Largest Lead O/U 13.5: Under
Lead Change in Second Half: Yes
Longest Touchdown O/U 49.5: Under
D/ST Touchdown: No
Missed FG: No
Sacks O/U 4.5: Under
Succesful 4th Down: No
Penalites O/U 10.5: Under
2 Pointer Attempted: Yes
Margin of Victory: New England 11-13
Eli vs Eli Pass Yards: XLII
Green-Ellis vs Maroney Rush Yards: XLII
Eli Pass Atts O/U 38.5: Over
Eli Completions O/U 24.5: Under
Nicks O/U 85.5 Yards: Under
Nicks O/U 5.5 Receptions: Under
Victor Cruz O/U 89.5 Yards: Over
Victor Cruz O/U 5.5 Receptions: Over
JPP O/U 5.5 Tackles/Assists: Under
JPP O/U 0.5 Sacks: Under
Brady TD Passes O/U 2.5: Under
Brady INT O/U 0.5: Under
BJGE Rush Atts O/U 12.5: Under
Welker O/U 82.5 Rec Yards: Over
Welker O/U 6.5 Receptions: Over
Gronk O/U 82.5 Rec Yards: Over
Gronk O/U 6 Receptions: Over
Chung Tackles O/U 5.5: Under
Anderson Sacks O/U 0.5: Under
First to 100 Passing: Brady
First to 10 Completions: Brady
Eli Comp vs LeBron Points: LeBron
Welker Rec vs LeBron Assists: LeBron
Brady TDs vs Allen 3 pointers: Allen
Brady TDs vs Bruin goals: Bruins
Giants PTS vs Lundqvist saces: Lundqvist
Anthem O/U 1:34: Over
Clarkson shirt: Anything else
Madonna Hair Color: Any other color
Peyton Manning on TV O/U 3.5: Under (Disclaimer: Over if we include commercials)
Robert Kraft on TV O/U 3.5: Under
Giselle Bundchen on TV O/U 0.5: Under
Tyree Catch on TV O/U 1: Under
Andrew Luck mentions O/U 1: Under
MVP Thanks: Coach
Neilsen Rating O/U 47.5: Under
O/U 115 million viewers: Under

*The Giants crossed 27 less than half the time this year, and for all the bellyaching about NE's defense only the Week 3 Bills put up more than 27 on them.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Drunkmonkey :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:50am

How can Brandon Jacobs score the first overall TD, and Ballard score the first Giants TD? That doesn't make sense.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Anonymous (not verified) (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 9:29am

He's hedging his bets ;)
No faith in his answers, so he's playing the odds

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by NYMike :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 9:41am

It doesn't make sense if you're trying to get a perfect score, but it makes a lot of sense if you're trying to maximize your score, given the odds.

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by Rabbit :: Wed, 02/01/2012 - 7:37pm

Since someone was nice enough to provide the format:

First TD: Welker
First Giant TD: Nicks
First Pat TD: Welker
Score First: Patriots
Score in first 7:30: Yes
Giants O/U 27: Over
Patriots O/U 29.5: Over
Giants First Half O/U 13.5: Over
Patriots First Half O/U 14.5: Over
Scores First Wins: Yes
Three Unanswered Scores: Yes
Scores Last Wins: Yes
Two Minute Score, First Half: Yes
Lead Change, First Half: No
First Half Tied: No
Highest Scoring Quarter: Second
Overtime: No
3 Point Decision: No
Largest Lead O/U 13.5: Over
Lead Change in Second Half: No
Longest Touchdown O/U 49.5: Over
D/ST Touchdown: Yes
Missed FG: No
Sacks O/U 4.5: Under
Successful 4th Down: Yes
Penalties O/U 10.5: Under
2 Pointer Attempted: No
Margin of Victory: New England 7-10
Eli vs Eli Pass Yards: XLVI
Green-Ellis vs Maroney Rush Yards: XLII
Eli Pass Atts O/U 38.5: Over
Eli Completions O/U 24.5: Over
Nicks O/U 85.5 Yards: Over
Nicks O/U 5.5 Receptions: Over
Victor Cruz O/U 89.5 Yards: Over
Victor Cruz O/U 5.5 Receptions: Over
JPP O/U 5.5 Tackles/Assists: Under
JPP O/U 0.5 Sacks: Over
Brady TD Passes O/U 2.5: Over
Brady INT O/U 0.5: Under
BJGE Rush Atts O/U 12.5: Under
Welker O/U 82.5 Rec Yards: Over
Welker O/U 6.5 Receptions: Over
Gronk O/U 82.5 Rec Yards: Under
Gronk O/U 6 Receptions: Under
Chung Tackles O/U 5.5: Over
Anderson Sacks O/U 0.5: Over
First to 100 Passing: Brady
First to 10 Completions: Brady

Peyton Manning on TV O/U 3.5: Over
Robert Kraft on TV O/U 3.5: Over
Giselle Bundchen on TV O/U 0.5: Over

Neilsen Rating O/U 47.5: Under
O/U 115 million viewers: Over

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by BaronFoobarstein :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:50am

None of the "on TV during the game" specify that's it's actually on the game's telecast. If Peyton Manning has a commercial appearance during the game that's an easy four appearances right there. I have to figure that somewhere on some channel Tyree and Gisele are appearing and Luck is being mentioned. Over on all of them.

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by Travis :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 9:30am

Here are the restrictions on one site:

SUPER BOWL XLVI SPECIALS - How many times will Robert Kraft be shown on TV during the game?

From kick off until final whistle. Live pictures only, any taped pictures or past video does not count towards wager. Half time does not count towards wager. Book manager's decision is final.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by BaronFoobarstein :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:00pm

Well, bust my buttons! Why didn't you say that in the first place? That's a horse of a different color!

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Marko :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 4:01am

I wonder if anyone does any insider trading on what you call "The Weird Stuff." Kelly Clarkson or someone close to her could bet on what she wears to sing the anthem, Madonna or someone with inside information regarding the halftime show could bet on her hair color or whether or not she wears a hat, and the director of the telecast could bet on how many times Peyton, Kraft or Gisele are shown on TV. What's to stop any of these people from taking advantage of these sure bets?

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by Insider (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:57am

Nothing, but there is usually a pretty low maximum bet allowed on props like that, so the book can't get hurt too badly even if a couple of people can lock in wins.

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by Chris UK :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:58am

The criminal justice system?

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Mike Kurtz :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 1:01pm

The NFL, who would move heaven and earth to ensure that the league itself never is caught up in any sort of gaming scandal.

The book itself, since if word got out to the gaming commission about rigging bets, they would be out of business and in jail so fast your head would spin.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Insider (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:29pm

I still say the book can't really do much except void the bet if they find out. Again, this is why they set super-low limits. I've seen caps of \$50. They're just designed to get people interested in visiting the website. The book and the NFL are not spending any time at all to track down "insider trading" on \$50 props.

Legal Vegas books can't have these unusual props because they can only offer bets on objective, unambiguous things that happen as part of the actual game. They can't offer "Gatorade color" or "who gets thanked first."

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by BJR :: Fri, 02/03/2012 - 11:04am

They are just publicity stunts by the books. I would be very surprised if you were allowed to have a 3-figure bet on any of them.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by LB (not verified) :: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 3:49am

You can at UK books. Some of the ones I was betting on had 200 pound limits, some 500. They may restrict your bet now, if they're in deep on some of these exotics.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by DGL :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:13am

Can't see a better place to post this, so I'll put it here. According to a story I heard this morning, the line for the game opened at Giants +3.5. There has been a lot of action on the Giants, so the line has moved to Giants +3. The action is still heavy on the side of the Giants, but there's resistance to move the line to Giants +2.5 - because in that case, you could have bet the Giants +3.5 last week, you could bet the Patriots -2.5 this week, and you can be guaranteed to win - and if the Pats win by exactly 3, you win twice.

Oh, and the three Super Bowls the Pats won this decade? 20-17, 32-29, and 24-21...

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by White Rose Duelist :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 1:21pm

Not lose, you mean. At even odds, any score but Pats by 3 would have one bet paying off the loss for the other. Also, this presumes there's no vig on that line. The one time I was at a sports book, betting the line was -110, so if you put \$100 each on Giants +3.5 and Patriots -2.5, you'd be losing over \$19 on anything except New England by 3, in which case you'd make \$163 and change.

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by BJR :: Fri, 02/03/2012 - 11:15am

Yes, in this scenario you would effectively be having a bet at +1900 (or 20 decimal) on the Patriots to win by 3. It may be a value bet if you decide that the likelihood of a Patriots win by exactly 3 is greater than 5% (the implied percentage), but you would not be guaranteeing a win.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by starzero :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 11:30am

quickly, before i go any further:

obverse, not observe.

--
hail damage

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by are-tee :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 1:16pm

The Flyers are playing the Rangers on Sunday, not the Bruins.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by dryheat :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:35pm

Right. The Bruins play the Capitals. Being a displaced Bostonian in DC, it's going to be one hell of a Sunday.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by LionInAZ (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 7:51pm

Have to commend FO for including the idiotic stuff, like the Kelly Clarkson anthem odds.

Nothing is too stupid for Vegas to wager on, I guess.

As for me, I'm saying under on the TV ratings. Outside of the Northeast US, this game has little interest outside of those curious to see if the Patriots get revenge for their lost perfect season. It's not clear whether either team could claim to be one of the two best in the NFL.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by dmstorm22 :: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 10:34pm

For ratings and viewers, does the two teams in the Super Bowl really matter anymore?

Apparently each of the last four Super Bowls (since Pats-Giants 1) set a record for most viewers at that time, and one of those featured the Cardinals.

I also thing in terms of pure tv ratings (not total viewers, which is open to being effected by population and higher use of TV), Super Bowl XXXIV is really high, which featured two teams that aren't really among the most known franchises.

I think that big market teams (or teams with big national followings, like Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and when they are good Oakland) are more important for the playoffs than the Super Bowl, which is just so much of a US event that the teams aren't really all that important.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by White Rose Duelist :: Fri, 02/03/2012 - 9:44am

Well, the game with the Cardinals also included the Steelers, who have a large and geographically diverse fanbase. Still, you make a good point. The number of football fans who don't watch the Super Bowl because they don't like the Giants and Patriots will be dwarfed by the group who watches because it's the Super Bowl. Heck, they're probably far outnumbered by the people who literally only watch the commercials.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by dryheat :: Fri, 02/03/2012 - 9:56am

I'll say that this Super Bowl will be the highest-rated program in TV history...and that's giving a discount due to a large segment watching at bars and at house parties, plus the international audience that doesn't get captured.

I'll be shocked if it isn't top 3 all-time. It's the nature of the beast, it's the NFL championship, an extravaganza, and an excuse for a February party. I've never watched an awards show in my life, but there's a reason a network devotes hours of prime airtime to televising it.....people enjoy watching big "water cooler" events.

I think even a Bengals/Rams Super Bowl next year the highest rated TV show of the year, barring something like a Yankees-Dodgers World Series game 7.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Marko :: Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:04pm

You mean most watched in terms of total viewership, not highest rated. No way is this the highest rated program ever. As you can see in the attached link, the M*A*S*H finale in 1983 remains the highest rated program ever, with a 60.2 rating: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/21/top-100-rated-tv-shows-of-al.... Recent Super Bowls have been in the mid 40s in terms of rating, as you can see from this link: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/02/07/super-bowl-xlv-poised-to-bre.... I highly doubt that any show will ever break the ratings record set by M*A*S*H, since the market is so much more fragmented now than it was around 30 years ago.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by dryheat :: Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:14pm

Yes, you are correct on all counts. I feel shame.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Mr Shush :: Fri, 02/03/2012 - 11:31am

"Fruit punch is still my favorite Gatorade flavor, but I imagine it'd be a pain to get out of any uniforms short of the Texans ketchup bottle, er, Battle Red, monstrosities."

Why are there so few red uniforms in the NFL? English soccer has loads, and the two countries' flags have the same colours (which is certainly a factor in soccer kit design, at least).

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by dryheat :: Fri, 02/03/2012 - 12:51pm

The Patriots actually switched from red when Bob Kraft bought the team, specifically because the team's mascot was a revolutionary soldier, and it was the British army that wore red. He said as a fan, he never understood that.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Eddo :: Fri, 02/03/2012 - 8:29pm

That's pretty cool. I had never heard that before.

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by PatsFan :: Fri, 02/03/2012 - 11:00pm

Interestingly, though the original NE uniforms were red (until Flying Elvis was introduced), the Pat Patriot on the helmets wore blue. Go figure.

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by Marko :: Sat, 02/04/2012 - 12:52am

I assumed that was because their uniforms were red, white and blue, which is very patriotic. Since white naturally would be the primary color in their road jerseys, that meant that the primary color in their home jerseys would have to be either red or blue. Maybe they chose red because that shade of blue wouldn't look good as the primary color for a jersey? If I recall correctly, the shade of blue that was part of their color scheme was lighter than the blue they wear now. The red jerseys did look good.

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by Jerry :: Sat, 02/04/2012 - 4:51am

Also, the Bills, Chargers, Oilers, and (NY) Titans all wore blue among the original eight AFL teams, while (beside the Patriots) only the Texans wore red. (Bonus note: look at the 1960 Patriot helmets.)

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Theo :: Sat, 02/04/2012 - 9:28pm

Maybe because from the 20s into the 90s of last century "red" was the color of the US enemy.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by Sid :: Sat, 02/04/2012 - 7:02pm

1)"Most of these bets are whether a proposition is over or under the "line," usually total. For example:

Number of brain cells this week's featured commercial will kill (9.5)
Over: -105
Under: +130"

OK, the bookmaker would get killed. The lines don't make sense. Someone could bet both sides and make money. A bet would be more like -130 vs. +105, where the bookmaker takes '25 cent' vig (or -110 vs -110, with 20 cent vig).

2)The Giants are favored to score first because NE has deferred every single time they've won the coin toss for the last few seasons, and the Giants usually take the ball (Giants are around -300 to get the ball first). Therefore, they are obviously favored to score first.

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##### Re: Super Bowl XVLI Prop Bet Extravaganza!
by shaezychick (not verified) :: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:34pm

It is NOT XVLI ... It is XLVI ...