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16 Dec 2005

The (Original) Fantasy Football Hall of Fame

by Mike Tanier

Great things are afoot. Trucks are breaking ground. Plans are being finalized. Enshrinement committees are meeting. Invitations are being engraved. Small-town politicians are being greased. Zoning ordinances are being ignored.

The Fantasy Football Hall of Fame is coming.

Once merely the fevered dream of an obsessed fan, the Fantasy Football Hall of Fame and Museum (FFHoF) is fast becoming a reality. A site has been chosen: 1500 acres of land in Pennsauken, New Jersey, just miles from the birthplace of 49ers near-great John Taylor. The former Ringafier Diaper Cream factory is being razed to make way for a state-of-the-art glass-and-concrete structure based on an original design by legendary architect Buckminster Fuller, with 21st-century updates by former Bears quarterback Steve Fuller.

The FFHoF will feature the typical hall of bronze busts, but there will be so much more: interactive exhibits, historic artifacts, a 40-foot high movie screen, a gift shop, conference halls, another gift shop, and the world's largest White Castle.

It's a fantasy football fan's dream come true: a place to honor players who may not have been great but managed to rack up lots and lots of stats.

A Man and His Dream

Virgil Parks was an ordinary man. An assistant line manager in a scrapple processing plant (hooves and ears department), Parks wasn't even much of a football fan until 1990, when he joined a friend's fantasy football league.

Fantasy football opened up a new world for Parks. "I learned all about the legends of the gridiron that first year," Parks remembers. "There was Curtis Duncan and Derrick Fenner, Mark Rypien and Bobby Humphrey, Chris Jacke and Lawrence Dawsey and Barry Sanders."

Parks' fantasy obsession started modestly, but his involvement in the hobby increased every year. His fantasy success peaked with a third-place finish in his friend's eight-team league in 1994 ("I discovered Terrance Mathis," he still boasts), but he has expanded his focus to include multiple leagues and newspaper contests. He reads dozens of preseason fantasy publications every year, and he is donating his collection of over 1,500 cheat sheets and annuals to the FFHoF's historic exhibit, including a rare 1989 "franchise football" guide with Robb Riddick on the cover.

"I know every starting quarterback, running back, receiver, tight end, and kicker in the NFL," Parks often boasts. "Most of the backups, too. I think that makes me something of a football expert." Parks wanted to pour his expertise into the Hall of Fame project, but he lacked the funds to pursue his dream. That changed when he won a lawsuit which the press dubbed "The Case of the Over-Scented Candle," earning $14.1 million from America's candle cabal. "To this day, I can't get the heady aroma of white plum, mandarin, and jasmine out of my downstairs bathroom," he laments.

Suddenly flush with cash, Parks began commissioning blueprints for the Hall, taking it upon himself to design such features as the 25-foot high statue of Brett Perriman. But a Hall of Fame is only as good as its enshrinees, and Parks needed a selection committee. He distributed invitations to journalists across the country, but the job promised long hours of difficult work for little money and no prestige. Only the most desperate, second-rate hacks would be enticed by such a solicitation.

We met at the Elbow Room Saloon in Elkton, Maryland to begin the selection process. Parks wanted the most respected, established writer in the room to preside over the committee. Olaf Saaksgaard, webmaster of the Call of Cthulhu Roleplaying and Fantasy Football blog, was quickly sworn in. I was proud to be named the recording secretary. Drinks were ordered. Debate commenced.

Many Are Called

The selection committee had to address an important question at that first, whisky-soaked meeting: what makes a player a Fantasy Football Hall of Famer? The answer was as obvious as the difference between Barry Sanders and Chris Warren.

Barry Sanders will never make the FFHoF. Barry lives in our minds and our hearts. We can all close our eyes and remember his breathtaking runs. He's a real Hall of Famer, someone who enriched the game of football and the world of sports at large.

Chris Warren is another matter. Unless you are from Seattle, you probably cannot close your eyes and recall a particularly extraordinary carry by Warren. In fact, his existence had probably been expunged from your brain until you read his name ten seconds ago.

Fans around the country may have seen Chris Warren play two or three games in his career, yet he ran for 1,000-yards four times, which means he became a figure of importance on one critical day every year: the day of your fantasy draft. There, you sweated over Warren, wondering if his 1,545 yard, 9-TD performance of 1994 was a fluke, obsessing over whether he would outperform Errict Rhett that season. If you took him, maybe you called a buddy to trash talk when he racked up 115 yards and three scores against the Broncos in Week 5. Maybe his three touchdowns in Week 15 against the Raiders made the difference in your league's Super Bowl.

Warren won bragging rights, and cold hard cash, for thousands of fantasy owners around the country, then he slipped from the radar screen of history. The man deserves recognition. With the advent of the FFHoF, he'll finally get it.

Building from the Sanders-Warren dichotomy, the selection committee developed three primary criteria for consideration: To merit induction into the FFHoF, a player or coach must:

  • Have had a five-year NFL career, and must be retired for at least one season.
  • Have made a significant contribution to the game of fantasy football.
  • Have no chance in this world of getting into the real Hall of Fame.

The last point excludes not just players like Sanders or Emmitt Smith, but borderline cases like Warren Moon, Herschel Walker, and Henry Ellard, any of whom could slide into Canton in a weak moment. Saaksgaard also drew up some secondary criteria: Super Bowl appearances count against potential candidates, as do other noteworthy accomplishments like an MVP award. A candidate's best seasons had to occur after the dawn of the fantasy sports era (the mid-to-late 1980s). Bonus points were awarded for non-football factors like a catchy nickname.

But the overriding criteria remained good-but-not-exceptional statistical performance. "It's often said that 'great players are better than their stats,'" Saaksgaard said before the first vote. "This is the Hall of Fame for players whose stats are better than they were."

Few Are Chosen

Every Hall of Fame needs a kick-butt inaugural class to stimulate the public's interest. When baseball's Hall opened in Cooperstown, legends like Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb were instantly enshrined. When the Piano Tuners Hall of Fame opened in Derby, Vermont, Irv Bulbkus (Jerry Lee Lewis' lifelong tuner) and Cliff Marville (a longtime Liberace confidant) were on hand to add credibility to the festivities.

By closing time, the selection committee was ready to announce the Inaugural Class of the Fantasy Football Hall of Fame.

Randall Cunnningham
Accomplishments: Exceptional Fantasy Seasons (1990, 1998). Overused nickname ("The Ultimate Weapon") One of the first quarterbacks of the fantasy football era who "scored points with his feet." Terrible playoff performer. One of the worst television analysts in history before his brief comeback. Many selectors thought that Cunningham, a former MVP, wasn't FFHoF material until they saw footage of him playing for the Ravens in 2001.

Don Majkowski
Accomplishments: Exceptional Fantasy Season (1989). Silly, obvious nickname ("Majik"). One of the all-time great one-year wonders. Football's Wally Pipp.

Natrone Means
Accomplishments: Exceptional Fantasy Season (1994). Several seasons as a short yardage back, with only one really good one. Corny, beaten-to-death nickname ("Means Business"). Means played very well in many playoff games, but his 13-carry, 33-yard performance in Super Bowl XXIX doesn't hurt his FFHoF standing.

Christian Okoye
Accomplishments: Exceptional Fantasy Season (1989). Just two career playoff appearances. Awesome Nickname ("The Nigerian Nightmare"). Okoye got bonus points for his dominating performances in the Super Tecmo Bowl video game.

Chris Warren
Accomplishments: Exceptional Fantasy Season (1995). Several seasons as a #2 fantasy running back. Gained 105 yards in three playoff games in a 12-year career.

Andre Rison
Accomplishments: Exceptional Fantasy Seasons (1990-1994). Silly, obvious nicknames ("Bad Moon," "Spider-Man"). A run-'n'-shoot receiver. Had his house burned down by late rapper girlfriend. Engaged Deion Sanders in slap fight. The first player actually selected by the committee.

Rob Moore
Accomplishments: Exceptional Fantasy Season (1997). Three playoff games in 11 years. Voters liked the fact that Moore hung around the league for seven years before having a truly great year. Many voters also may have thought they were voting for Herman Moore or ordering more drinks.

Ben Coates
Accomplishments: Exceptional Fantasy Season (1994). The player for whom the advice, "don't draft a tight end in the first five rounds unless it's ____" was coined. No silly nickname, but the obvious pun of his last name inspired hundreds of Berman wannabes. "I called him Ben 'Look in the closet for my' Coates," Parks recalls.

Mouse Davis
Accomplishments: Innovator of the run-'n'-shoot offense. Davis' strategy was in vogue when Parks and his peers were discovering fantasy football; it wasn't uncommon for the fourth Oilers wide receiver to be drafted before the first Rams receiver. "The run-'n'-shoot was an unqualified success in the NFL," Parks explains. "Someday, an offensive genius like Kevin Gilbride will bring it back."

Al Del Greco
Accomplishments: Exceptional Fantasy Seasons (1996, 1998). Dozens of kickers were nominated by the committee; everyone from Norm Johnson to Raul Allegre was considered. Del Greco was ultimately chosen because he played for the St. Louis Cardinals, the Phoenix Cardinals, and the Tennessee Oilers. "He even kicked in some Packers games in Milwaukee," Saansgaard said of the controversial choice.

How You Can Help

The first class is ready to be honored, but the selection committee is hardly finished, and we need your help. There's a backlog of dozens of qualified nominees who will be eligible for enshrinement in the years to come, and we need fan input. As recording secretary, it's my job to keep track of fan opinions.

Here is the list of candidates for 2006. Feel free to cast your votes (or make your own selections) on the message board:

Quarterbacks: Jim Everett, Jeff George, Jim Harbaugh, Bobby Hebert, Jeff Hostetler, Erik Kramer, Ken O'Brien, Mark Rypien.

Running Backs: Terry Allen, Greg Bell, Ernest Byner, Barry Foster, Rodney Hampton, Pete Johnson, Rueben Mayes, Tom Rathman, James Stewart, Ricky Watters.

Wide Receivers: Flipper Anderson, Fred Barnett, Billy Brooks, Quinn Early, Antonio Freeman, Ernest Givens, Michael Jackson, Terance Mathis, Anthony Miller, Herman Moore, Brett Perriman

Tight Ends: Mark Chmura, Eric Green, Keith Jackson, Alfred Pupunu, Wesley Walls.

Kickers: Too many to list. Far too many to spellcheck.

Coaches/Innovators: Wayne Fontes, June Jones, Sam Wyche.

One Final Note

The FFHoF is not affiliated in any way with the Fantasy Sports Trade Association (FSTA), a wonderful organization which promotes fantasy sports, awards innovators in the field, and has established its own Hall of Fame.

All of us at Football Outsiders wish to applaud the FSTA for their exceptional contributions to the world of fantasy sports. After all, an organization whose Hall of Fame includes Bill James, John Dewan, and John Benson will eventually cast its gaze upon some of us.

Posted by: Mike Tanier on 16 Dec 2005

152 comments, Last at 11 Nov 2007, 2:34pm by Dan Walker

Comments

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by RH (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 11:48am

This is either the most or least awesome thing I will see this month. I can't decide yet.

"Olaf Saaksgaard, webmaster of the Call of Cthulhu Roleplaying and Fantasy Football blog, was quickly sworn in."

There are no words, gentlement. Awesome.

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by jimmo (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 11:53am

I have to nominate Scott Mitchell at the QB spot; that huge 95 season won a championship for me, and the subsequent lesser years of 96 & 97 when he was drafted too highly by other guys in my league allowed me further success.

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by Matt Weiner (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:01pm

I thought Means was the "Natrone Bomb." I guess that's extra credit for two obvious overused nicknames.

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by TomG (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:02pm

Peter King's already working on an article about the Cowboys' lack of representation in the FFHoF.

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by James Stewart\'s #1 Fan (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:08pm

It's a pity that Stewart's nickname of "Thunderlegs" never caught on with, well, anyone other than me. He'd have been in the inaugural class for sure.

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by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:12pm

Rypien is a shoe-in, Barry Foster needs to be the poster child for the FFHOF, Herman Moore is one of the all-time "Now that I look back, he was pretty good!" players and Welsey Walls is as good of pick for TE as anyone.

I would like to nominate Joe Morris, RB for the NYG. He had two monster seasons in '85 and '86 and then fell off the face of the earth. An old-school FF dominiator, a "back in the day" regulator.

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by James Gibson (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:16pm

I definitely vote for Terry Allen and Rodney Hampton. Allen had that one 22 TD season, and I rode Hampton to my '92 title even more than I rode Means to my '94 title. One more RB I think should be on the nomination list - Jamaal Anderson. Before he and Terrell Davis both got hurt the same seaon, there was a fantasy argument about which one should be drafted #1

QB - the only one I really like is George who had some outstanding fantasy seasons

WR - Definitely got to vote Freeman. He was considered more stable than Randy Moss in some circles and more worthy of a higher pick. I might consider adding former Pack WR Sterling Sharpe, too. Some great seasons, I don't think his pro HOF chances are too good. I also have to vote for Herman Moore and Ernest Givens. Some good fantasy seasons out of those players.

TE - definitely vote for Walls. In my league Walls sticks out along with Tony G, Shannon Sharpe and Coates. Tony G and Shannon Sharpe might be headed for Canton, so that nixes them. You already have Coates, Walls has got to be next.

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by Richard (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:16pm

Jeff George has to get in for the couple of very good years, the ever hovering threat he'll come back and immediately start for a quarterback deprived team (like a vulture in that free agent pool), and that mustache.

The mustache is hall worthy.

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by TomG (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:18pm

Speaking of Super Tecmo Bowl dominance…I’m starting my campaign for Cleveland Gary’s induction into the FFHoF. Not only was his 14-TD 1990 season a thing of fantasy beauty, but he also has the following to his credit:

1. Being the worst (or best, however you want to look at it) “no bleeping way� (a Bill Simmonsism) video game football player ever. Every time I played the Rams using the Niners, Gary would average 25 yards or so per carry. Unbelievable.

2. A follow-up 1991 season in which he only rushed for 245 yards and 1 TD in ten games, causing people to sleep on him the next season, where I drafted him in the tenth round only to watch him rush for 1125 yard and 7 TDs. (Caught 3 more.)

3. Medical Fraud charges http://www.cracksmoker.com/NFL/NFL%20GaryC.htm

4. Subsequent rebirth as a hair-loss spokesman http://www.medicalhairrestoration.com/pressroom_05_10_26.html

If that’s not an impressive resume, I don’t know what is.

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by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:24pm

RE #7:

Through a series of good fortune, I had Jamal Anderson, Terrell Davis, and Steve Young on my fantasy team in '99. The only things that kept me from becoming a full-fledged atheist that year was the fact that I picked up Warner on the waiver wire after week one, and for some reason I had Beuerlein (who should be nominated) and Patrick Jeffers on my bench. Through some trades, I actually lost in the championship game of my league by 3 points.

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by Rocco (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:40pm

I'd like to nominate Jeff Garcia- he was the backbone of some of my fantasy teams there in 2000 and 2001 when their defense was so terrible that the offense had to score 30+ a game. He had a goofy Bermanism ("Cherry"), and had a Playmate get in a fight for him. What more could you want from a FFHOF candidate?

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by Smeghead (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:41pm

Jim Everett was the first player taken in the first fantasy draft I participated in. Ah, memories.

It's your committee, but HOFers on the strength of one great season seems a little overgenerous.

Terry Allen's a no-brainer. Injured in '93, but in the other four seasons '92 to '96, 4900 yards and 52 TDs, then put together an 8-TD twilight season in '99. Utterly forgettable to anyone not playing fantasy ball.

James Stewart. Backup-RB-in-a-good-spot role is a classic fantasy football play; Stewart was that guy for his entire career. 46 TDs from '96 to 2000 as a total nonentity.

Terance Mathis, of course. Many a roto-baller's proudest moment, to draft him in the 13th round in '94. It was mine. 57 TDs and four 1,000-yard seasons in the next six years.

Herman Moore was insane in the mid-90's, but more so than Mathis, his numbers actually reflect an impact on the field. The same goes for Watters -- he really was a top-10 back for the best part of a decade.

Mark Chmura deserves consideration for the rape charge alone, doesn't he?

I'm going to write in Dave Krieg for the senior committee's consideration. Bunyan-esque story: undrafted QB from now-defunct college. Two monster seasons (32 TDs in '84; 27 in '85) that slightly predate the really nascence of the game; several other solid ones -- 5 times among league's yardage top 10 and 6 among passing TD top 10. Booed out of Seattle which then received Kelly Stouffer, Dan McGwire, Stan Gelbaugh, Rick Mirer, John Friesz, and the reanimated corpse of Warren Moon as recompense. Retired as career leader in fumbles.

Boomer Esiason's not going to sneak into the HOF, right? Five out of six seasons with 24+ TDs in his Cincinnati heyday.

If you want kickers, Gary Anderson's sick 35-for-35 FGs, 59-for-59 PAT performance for the '98 Vikings was such an outlier that he actually carried some fantasy teams. He was even 2-for-2 from 50+, although he was only 12-for-40 from that range for his career and 4-for-23 in all post-Reagan administration seasons other than 1998. Capped off, of course, by choking in the NFC title game.

[most stats courtesy of pro-football-reference.com]

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by Falco (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:45pm

Moe Williams is a first-ballot FFHOFer in the TD-only wing of the Hall for his outstanding contributions for crappy teams lacking a real starting 2nd RB in 2002 and 2003. His recent charges stemming from the sex boat scandal cement the deal upon his retirement.

At QB, I second "Beurlein in '99", and also think that Elvis Grbac deserves a look. Some 400+ yd games in 2000 with the KC that carried teams late in the year. Fantasy owner Brian Billick then drafted him high the next year and he single-handedly takes them from SB Champ to bad.

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by Parker (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:45pm

The nerd factor just got turned up to 11, which as everyone knows is 1 higher than 10. I like it.

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by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:52pm

RE #13:

Dude, I have spent better parts of a day on Ebay trying to find a Beuerlein Panther's jersey. Which probably explains a few things.....

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by michael (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 12:55pm

re #11:

If it looks like a FFHOF candidate, and smells like a FFHOF candidate...

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by Mike (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:14pm

What about Travis Henry, although he may be too current still. Back to back great seasons, tons of yards, lots of TDs. And DVOA says he sucks, ha!

Honorable mention: Charlie Garner

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by Polish Wonder (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:14pm

I know he's not officially retired yet, but Kordell (Slash)Stewart has to get in. He went number 1 in several drafts, always based on the idea that he'd score TD's in 3 different ways. He had the great nickname. The only problem was that he wasn't as good at QB as he was when he just played slash.

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by B (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:18pm

When Aaron Brooks gets cut by the Saints and doesn't get picked up by somebody, how long untill he's eligable?

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by JonL (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:25pm

Can we get a Dr. Z-like article delineating the thought process towards who gets elected?

#12 is probably the closest to what I would say, but I would also try to find a place for Harbaugh and Rypien; Byner, Hampton and Watters; and Sam Wyche.

Finally, I'll say that for all the rap scrapple gets from the public at large, it is incredibly delicious.

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by Mike (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:35pm

Butch Rolle. He only caught TDs! Of course, it wasn't many, but it's a statline that only a fantasy player could love.

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by princeton73 (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:35pm

I think Lindy Infante has to get in as coach/contributor, since he was responsible for the fantasy seasons turned in by Magic Man and by Harbaugh

and probably Gibbs for Rypien

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by Independent George (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:36pm

What about Brian Westrbook, from his days as the Eagles leading receiver?

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by JonL (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:37pm

I'd also like to suggest Stan Humphries for nomination.

1992: 20 TDs (16 passing, four rushing), 18 INT, 3356 passing yards (tied for 5th in the league).

1994: 17 TDs (all passing - tied for 10th in the league), 12 INT, 3209 passing yards

1995: 18 TDs (17 passing - 10th in the league, 1 rushing), 14 INT, 3381 passing yards

1996: 18 TDs (all passing - 9th in the league), 13 INT, 2670 passing yards.

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by Spike (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:40pm

Touchdown Terry Allen for SURE. It just has to be. We rode him to a 99.5% scoring percentile in that year's ESPN league. Ditto on Tom Rathman, who once caught three TDs in one game when I was in a league that gave double points for RB TD catches. I mean, damn.

Superfreak gamers like Flipper Anderson need a spot. James Stewart (5 TDs in one game? Are you kidding me?) and Natrone Means should probably go in together. Remember that year at Jax when some FF teams started BOTH as their 1 and 2 RBs and collected the resulting two or three TDs? Sick sick sick.

To add a name unmentioned, how about Carl "Slim" Pickens? Constantly at the top of the draft board with that trio of mega-years. And wasn't he the first to belly-ache about the misery of playing for the Bungles? Oh, such a tradition he started.

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by princeton73 (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:42pm

what, no love for Scott Mitchell's 1995 fantasy season?

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by Gerry (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:45pm

I would like to nominate Vinny Freakin' Testeverde, for his accomplishments to the only fantasy league that matters, the one I founded (an all-keeper dynasty league).

He was my (late) first round selection in our inaugeral draft, and was integral in assuring that I had absolutely no chance for over a decade.

He then came back as part of a quarterback-by-committee setup along with David Carr, helping to guide my New Jersey New Yorkers to the title game. It is here that he truly put himself over the top. My squad was hanging to a slim 5 point lead, with time running out in the last game of the year, featuring the Cowboys. Vinnie triumphantly marched the Cowboys right down the field, capping the drive by handing the ball off to the one player my opponent still had going, Julius Jones.

I was so irked that I did not even see him toss the two-point conversion to Witten, giving me my first championship in a most improbable fashion.

God speed, Vinnie! We are forever in your debt. You crafted the legend that is the NJNY, and you went out a champion.

Please ignore the fact that my team has gotten stupidly dominating since your departure. It is only through your leadership that we learned, over 16 years, how to win!

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by Adam B. (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:48pm

Leroy Hoard has to get in ahead of Moe Williams. Patrick Jeffers is a no-brainer first-ballot inductee. And can I get a witness for Germane Crowell?

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by Gerry (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 1:57pm

I'd like to nominate another old New Jersey New Yorker, from our glory days of 8 straight lottery-seasons.

Stephen Baker, the "Touchdown Maker."

Many forget his 7 touchdown performance for the 1988 Giants. But who can forget his scintillating 2 catch performance for the Giants in the Super Bowl against Buffalo?

SB, tTM, you get my vote.

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by Hand (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 2:00pm

I'm seconding Garcia's eventual nomination (since you said nominees must have been retired, he's not eligible yet) on this:

Garcia was once arrested for a DUI. He blew three times the legal limit on his breathalizer, and has two 18 yr. old girls in the back of his car. That's just priceless.

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by Jerry P. (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 2:13pm

And can I get a witness for Germane Crowell?

I was waiting for someone to point him out. How about Frank Wycheck? He had a 5 year string of 60+ catches despite finding the end zone only 16 times in that period.

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by Rick "32_Footsteps" Healey (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 2:14pm

You know, a "Call of Cthulhu" reference in a piece about fantasy football brings a tear of joy to my eye. I seriously think that alone made my fantasy football season. My next fantasy team is going to be named "Failed Sanity Check" in your honor, Mr. Tanier.

I'm going to guess that the threat of a comeback is the only thing that kept Jeff George from being an inagural member. He has to get in.

At RB, give me Ricky Watters any day. Heck, I still have an Eagles t-shirt with Watters on it.

Antonio Freeman and Herman Moore are both obvious choices - they both must get in eventually, right?

Mark Chmura is too funny (in a very wrong way) to not get in, but you can't forget someone with the last name "Pupunu."

Other than Aaron Brooks, what current player is a shoe-in for this? With this season, I say Jake Plummer is making a bid for it.

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by dmac (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 2:30pm

I'd like to second Carl Pickens. I drafted him in, I think, the late rounds in my league for 1994 (we were in grade school then) and he had 11 TDs. He followed that up with 17 TDs and 12 TDs. And then he disappeared after finally leaving the Bengals and only played a year with the Titans.

The current player I can see being a shoo-in is Neil Rackers. He was my highest scoring player this season and took me from what should have been a next-to-last place season into third.

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by Chris B (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 2:33pm

How about Bo Jackson? Plus, he was the greatest video game player ever and he always ruined your team because he'd miss the first few games playing baseball.

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by David S. (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 2:37pm

I think Adrian Murrell is to the FFHoF as Art Monk is to the real HoF.

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by JonL (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 2:43pm

What about Larry Centers? Or is he too much a possibility for the real HoF?

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by Phil (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 2:44pm

How about Ed McCaffrey, four seasons of 60 plus catches, 900 plus yards,and atleast 8 tds, including a 101 catch, 1300 yard 9 td season in 2000.

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by LTA (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 2:44pm

I'm amazed we are this far through the comment thread without at least one Pats fan making the requisite joke about there now being a Hall of Fame where Manning actually belongs. (Note that I am a huge Colts fan, but still...).
Of course, maybe we have finally reached the point where even the most deranged Manning hater would admit he is practically a shoe-in for the real Hall.

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by Nick (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 2:54pm

The player most likely to make it from today's NFL? I present none other than Domanick Davis, the best player on the Texans who is completely unknown to anyone who doesn't have him on his team. Other people in my league don't even pay attention to him until his usual 12-20 points does them in. And this whole Reggie Bush thing is only going to cement his legacy.

Everyone thinks the Texans are going to draft Bush, but that's the one position they don't need to upgrade. But the Texans probably will draft Bush, because they always draft a running back despite having a top 10 back in place already.

I also think Ahman Green gets in, as does Denver's running backs coach.

And don't discount Muhsin Mohammed's (sic) season last year. That was one for the fantasy ages.

As far as QB's, does Kerry Collins count? He always seems to put up big numbers, but his teams never go anywhere (his Super Bowl appearance was more of a Vikings collapse than a Giants win).

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by Al (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 2:56pm

15: A Beurlein Panthers jersey is nothing. I bought a Beurlein Jaguars jersey off Ebay a few years ago. It's the highlight of my collection.

There should be a wing of the FFHOF dedicated to Denver Bronco running backs.

Kurt Warner is cementing his status as a first ballot entry with his late season performance in Arizona.

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by Tecmo Bo (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 3:05pm

I think MarTay Jenkins should get in for being the original "My WRs are so bad I'll just pick this guy up to get his return yards" player. With Arizona's craptacular defense leading to lots of kickoffs this man was a solid play every week. Not that any of my teams were bad enough to depend on a kick returner for points...

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by calig23 (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 3:08pm

Re:#39

That stupid jerk Kerry Collins! I had him on my team a few years ago, and sat him one week, figuring that it was a bad matchup for him. Idiot proceeded to throw 4 TD passes...

Ah yes, it was a game against the Colts in 2002. 23-29, 366 yards, 4 TDs, 0 INTs. And he was sitting on my bench...

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by White Rose Duelist (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 3:08pm

#32 - did you purposely wait for 31 people to comment before posting?

And weren't you telling me earlier this year that getting hosed by Jake the Snake was a FF initiation? Now you're nominating him for the FFHoF?

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by Tecmo Bo (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 3:10pm

And much love to Chris B for making the case for Bo Jackson, Tecmo legend. A first ballot video game HOFer, along w/ Tecmo LT, NHL'96 Roenick, Madden 04 Vick, and RBI Baseball Tony Armas.

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by Mike (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 3:11pm

Future Hall of Famers include Jeff Garcia (2000-2001 and to a lesser extent 2002-2003 were great years to own him, and so many teams banked on further success from him in Cleveland and Detroit only to go down in flames) and Aaron Brooks.

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by Falco (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 3:13pm

Aaron Brooks is a mortal lock, and he is still not that old. He is what the HOF is all about. He makes bonehead plays early in games, then gets to throw for yards and touchdowns because of his own contributions. He has been a starting caliber fantasy football player, ranking top 10 in pass yards and total TD's 5 straight, always available in the 7th round or beyond, and he likely has another couple lurking in him when he re-emerges down the road with another bad team. With the likes of Orkrentonzel starting in this league, he's got a shot to set a standard that no one can reach.

Carl Pickens, definitely. I completely forgot about his existence. Now I remember why I paid $9 in an auction the year he disappeared from the face of the earth. Garcia is definitely in when he decides to call it quits. Watters,in.

Here are some other current players who may need to do a little more, but have a shot:

QB: Warner, this year may be enough, likely a lock if he has another top 12 season. Trent Green, pretty dang close, finishing top 10 after 3 straight between 3 and 6 may do it.

RB: Domanick Davis, probably needs to have another inexplicable good statistical year after a hiatus, but being the hot rookie free agent pickup, then following it with a top 10 season with garbage yards and undeserved TD's on a bad team, is a good start. Travis Henry needs to re-emerge and have an unexplained top 12 season somewhere. Jamal Lewis has a pretty good resume going so far, top 20 rookie year, then blows out knee, then 2 years removed from injury, everybody sleeps on him and he is drafted outside top 15, has 2,000+ yard season. Then jail, then complete suckitude. If he re-emerges somewhere with one glorious Stephen Davis 2003 season in the next couple years, then flames out, he is a lock.

WR: McCardell, 7 times in the top 25 at WR, but never gonna cost you a high pick, cause he never was a #1 fantasy WR. His former teammate, Jimmy Smith, is an absolute lock, because I suspect he will never make Canton. If never being a top 5 WR, but being in the top 30 (and usually top 15) for 10 straight seasons does not embody what the FFHOF is about, I dont know what does.
Anyone getting passes from Favre for more than 3 years is in. Freeman is a lock, and Driver is moving that way. Muhsin Muhammad, two high reception years in 1999 and 2000, then out of nowhere after sinking to mediocrity for 3 years, drops a #1 WR season on us. If he pulls a top 15 season in Chicago next year, he should be enshrined. Joey Galloway has also thrown his name in the ring, top 15 WR, looked like a star, his first 4 years, then disappeared for six years, and now is in the midst of a top 5 year.
Joe Horn may be in already, usually not the #1 you wanted, but always the one you would be glad to have if you went RB heavy early, was top 15 at WR 5 straight years. The tendency to refer to himself in the third person sweetens the deal, and he would likely show up at the induction ceremony and provide a wonderful speech. Derrick Mason is on the outside looking in, but if he has a great year out of nowhere in the next couple, he could be in. Reggie Wayne is young and has to do a lot more, but has a chance if he stays in Indy, or goes elsewhere and has a few more good but not top 5 years. Finally, call it a hunch, but I think Amani Toomer has Muhsin Muhammad type potential to inexplicably post one more good year and solidify his candidacy.

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by Tecmo Bo (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 3:20pm

What's the record for posts (non-irrational Atlanta fan division)? Could break it with this thread. Tremendous idea for an article.

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by Sean D. (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 3:26pm

I gotta reiterate the votes for Terry Allen. The god of TDs for one season brought many a fantasy football championship.
I also want to put up votes for Alfred Pupunu, Anthony Miller, and Stan Humphries (can you guess who my favorite team is).
And does that RB from Minnesota get a vote, I think his name was Robert Smith. He was pretty darn good for a couple years.

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by Sean D. (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 3:30pm

I guess if I'm going to give my support to some of the former Chargers I might as well finish it off by endorsing Jim Harbaugh, Jim Everrett, Erik Kramer, and Quinn Early.

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by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 3:30pm

RE #40:

Man... you got me beat. I guess I need to go find a Phoenix Cardinals jersey then just to one-up you.

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by Ferg (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 3:34pm

Come on, people!

The name of the game is:
Tecmo
Super
Bowl.

Thank you.

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by Raul Amargosa (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 4:00pm

This is getting ahead of ourselves, as these players are still on active rosters. But who else remembers the Derrick Blaylock 4-TD game for the chiefs alst year? And who else won championships on the arm of Billy Volek? Come a few years, if we remember still, we must vote them in!

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by James Gibson (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 4:15pm

I can't believe I forgot Pickens. I've been playing in the same TD only league since '92 and Pickens' total TDs still put him in or near the top 10 in scoring for WRs. By that token, I vote no on Robert Smith - not enough TDs. I agree with both Scott Mitchell and eventually, Vinny Testaverede. They both cost me by drafting them high right after really good seasons. Then Vinny even had another one after that. More than the Bronocs RB coach, I think the vote should be for Alex Gibbs, the Broncos OL coach for most of that run.

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by TBW (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 4:22pm

Leave room next year for Richie Anderson, the man who pioneered the position of "Touchdown Specialist"

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by Mike (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 4:27pm

Future considerations must be due to Warrick Dunn, a member of the elite 200-yard club, then with this season. Often undrafted, always a performer. Plus good catches!

And a special exhibit has to be placed for the Best Number Three Wide Receiver in the League. There's a solid entry almost every season: Kevin Curtis this year, Brandon Stokely last, Az Hakim in the glory days...man.

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by bobman (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 4:29pm

Flipper Anderson was my first thought halfway through reading the explanation, if only for that one monster game (what was it, 273 receiving yards?) and the super nickname.

My question is what happens to Peyton Manning in 10 years or so? His fantasy stats should unparallelled, but his MVPs, 2? 3? more?, consistency, and potential playoff/SB work will count against him. hmmmm. Maybe he gets in because of his TV work.

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by Rocco (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 4:33pm

#52-

A friend of mine actually lost a championship on the arm of Billy Volek. He picked up Volek and Drew Bennett, rode them on a 4-game winning streak to the title game...and then watch them crash and burn in Week 16, throwing up a combined -1. He lost the title game by 1 point. Needless to say, he'd never vote for those two to make into a HOF.

It's a shame that Bettis is real-life HOF worthy, because he'd deserve to be in this HOF after his "5 carries, 1 yard, 3 TD" performance against the Raiders last season. And "Broncos running backs" should just go in as a collective at this point. Pickens and Terry Allen should go in as well, although I wasn't really playing fantasy football during their heyday.

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by Bobby Engram (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 4:38pm

*sigh* Well, at least I know I am a shoo-in for the Football Outsiders Hall of Fame.

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by Sean (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 4:46pm

Let's give some love for David Boston. A brief flurry of productive years, maxing out with his 2001 performance, where he was either first or second in the league in yardage (I can't remember which one- I had him and Owens as my receivers, and they went1-2).

He then went on to fulfill his dream of becoming a Tyrannosaurus Rex.

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by Scott H (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 4:47pm

My nominations

-Atlanta: The partner to Terrance Mathis, Bert Emmanuel (from the 1995 "Jeff George goes off" season). Craig Hayward also put up 1200 yard rushing that season I think.

-Chicago: Not a single mention of the dynamic duo of the mid-90s, Curtis Conway (1000 yds, 12 tds in 95) and Jeff Graham (1300 yds in 95)? Classic.

-Houston Oilers: Lorenzo White, Gary Brown (both with a couple of 1,000 yard rushing seasons in the mid-90s), Webster Slaughter.

-Steelers: Bam Morris.

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by VarlosZ (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 4:48pm

Rodney Hampton should be a lock. Five straight 1,000 yard seasons, and 45 TDs, from '91-'95. Only played in 4 playoff games, and only performed well in one of them (check the link). Did get a Super Bowl ring as a rookie in '90, but he didn't even play in the game.

If we're considering New York WRs (#29), then I think Al Toon has to get in before Stephen Baker (who has no shot). Toon's production probably isn't quite up to snuff, and he didn't have a nickname, but he did have that cool "Tooooooooon!" chant every time he caught a pass.

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by Gerry (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 4:55pm

"and he didn’t have a nickname"Hence why Stephen Baker, The Touchdown Maker, must come first!

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by ElAngelo (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 5:09pm

I'll give a shout-out to the Marks a a joint entry--Mark Clayton and Mark Super Duper.

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by JonL (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 5:12pm

He then went on to fulfill his dream of becoming a Tyrannosaurus Rex.

Damn that's funny.

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by Trogdor (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 5:12pm

I might be the last FO reader who doesn't play fantasy football, but I found this article to be extremely enjoyable. All these players that I only ever heard about because someone had him on a fantasy team...

With that in mind, I would like to nominate Bubba Franks, king of the 1-yard TD reception. I don't know how many times I've heard a fantasy fan cheer when a Packer gets stopped inside the 5, because "Favre loves to look for Bubba down here." Dunno if he's actually a fantasy legend or not, but I've heard way too dang much about him over the years.

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by Trogdor (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 5:14pm

Al Toon would also be a shoo-in if concussions were a fantasy stat.

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by Jason (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 5:30pm

Brandon "5 carries, 3 yards, 2 TDs" Jacobs is already an early candidate. Just needs the wacky nickname.

Also, there must be a wing for players who sank teams year in and year out. But who in the name of Troy Hambrick will receive that honor?

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by Richie (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 5:31pm

Is this serious? He won a lawsuit from an over-scented candle?

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by Tim (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 5:33pm

Geez, you mention Okoye's TSB dominance but no mention of the fact that Randall Cunningham was, is now, and forever shall be "QB Eagles" to a generation of fans? Yikes....

Oh, and it's a double "n" in his name, not a triple "n".

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by Tecmo Bo (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 5:33pm

Am I a bad person for laughing at #65?

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by Thok (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 5:45pm

Michael Jackson (the Cleveland/Baltimore receiver) should get into this HOF.

Also, how can the article mention Al Del Greco (a worthy finalist), and forget to mention his nickname "The Human Highlight Film"?

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by MikeT (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 5:47pm

68: hehehe, QB Eagles. Just like Michael Jordan was Roster Player 99 ...

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by Matt (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 6:05pm

I'm not sure about a couple of those - Randall Cunningham and Ben Coates might both sneak in somehow. But Rodney Hampton, definitely.

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by Adam B. (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 6:16pm

I can only imagine what FFL would have been like during that Eagles' 1991 season -- how many owners would've grabbed Brad Goebel, Jeff Kemp and Pat Ryan? How much was that defense worth?

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by Phil (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 6:21pm

Basically any rb,wr, or te who played with Brett Farve desrves a nomination. Elgible nominees include: Sterling Sharpe, Robert Brooks, Antonio Freeman, Mark Chmura, Keith Jackson, Edgar Bennett.
Potential nominees include: Javon Walker, Donald Driver, Bubba Franks, Dorsey Levens and Ahman Green

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by Nick (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 6:26pm

Two guys I failed to mention who are coming close to the end of their careers:

The immortal Fred Taylor, king of the injury bug, but still a consistent scorer over the years. And let's not forget Corey Dillon, who had some great years with the Bengals when no one else on those teams was worth anything, only to have a career resurgence with the Patriots.

As for quarterbacks, what do Carl Pickens, Anquan Boldin, Joe Horn and Todd Heap have in common? They were all helped to beakout seasons receiving the ball from Jeff Blake. Don't ever underestimate a guy who can focus on one receiver and still get it done.

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by Jerry (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 6:31pm

Re #56:

Maybe the Hall can display some piece of Bettis' equipment from that classic game.

"Oh, wow. His left sock!"

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by Malene, cph, dk (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 7:39pm

Completely off topic:
quick, go read Simmons' new mailbag (with the nfl picks), where he completely inexplicably goes on a rant about Band Aid's "Do they know it's christmas" as if it hadn't already been remade TWICE!!

He even says stuff like "wouldn't it be fun to have the lead singer of Keane..." - uhm... well, they did, actually...

And: "and Bono coming back to sing his line again..." well, that too...

Good times...

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by andrew (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 7:53pm

I'll vote for Terry Allen. He had a few good years, vanished, then had one monster year before fading. His lack of a good nickname is his only weakness.

On that subject, it was Ben "Winter" Coates wasn't it?

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by andrew (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 7:54pm

BTW, you really think Herschel Walker has a prayer of getting into the Pro Football hall of fame? He's got no chance. What's the first thing you think of when you think of his pro career? Case closed.

Now, you could argue that his membership in the College Football hall of fame invalidates him here, and that would be perfectly acceptable.

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by Clint (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 8:32pm

Rich Gannon will be a shoe in.

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by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 8:48pm

I forgot about the other Chicago RB, Neal Anderson. Perfect canidate.

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by JasonK (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 9:05pm

#66:

From what I've heard, Jacobs already has the wacky nickname. His teamates-- apparently all big Police Academy fans-- call him "Hightower."

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by mactbone (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 9:35pm

RoboTerry. After all those kneww injuries he will always be known as RoboTerry.

I still remember the first year I was in a fantasy league. I rode Brad Johnson and Albert Connel all the way to the championship. Then I crashed and burned when I picked Johnson the next year with way too high a pick.

Erik Kramer gets no love? Gets his groove on in Detroit then busts out with 4,000 in Chicago.

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by wayne (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 9:47pm

I vote for chmura and freeman.

Just a note about natrone means; in san diego's jack murphy stadium, after a run the announcer would say "natrone means the running back". a lady in the stands said she never knew before what natrone meant.

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by easports (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 9:54pm

How about Reggie Langhorn. he put up decent to modest numbers for the Browns every year despite having Kosar at the helm. Then he went to Indy and led all AFC WRs with 85 rec. for 1038 yds and 3 TDS from Jeff Geroge (who should be a lock for FFHoF). He then unexpectedly retired after the best season of his carrer.

Also, Robert Smith of the Vikes:
1997- 1266 rush, 37rec for 197 yds 7tds
1998- 1187 rush, 28rec for 291 yds 8tds
1999- 1015 rush, 24rec for 166 yds 2tds
2000- 1521 rush, 36rec for 348 yds 10tds

Note: 2000 was the only season he managed more to play every game as he has weak girly ankles. He then retired after the 2000 campagin, screwing the Vikes (as they haven't had a consistent RB since) and Fantasy owners in keeper leagues alike.

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by TBW (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 10:21pm

I don't think Michael Jackson is Hall-worthy, but Michael Dyson should be a shoo-in.

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by ec butler (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 10:21pm

Hey, I think you can pretty much roll out FFHoF team of the decade honors to the 90's K.C. Chiefs. Being a Cowboys fan during the Cowboys rebuilding era I had to deal with the Boys beng blacked out at home and having to watch the Chiefs. An all time rotation of QB's DeBerg, Kreig, Bono, Montana....Did I say Steve Bono...in whatever subsequent order, and perhaps the illusion of one of the greatesy RB tandems in league history. Remember Barry Words 1,000 yard season coupled with Okoye's 800 yard injury season. It had me yearning for the two to pound D-lines the next season. Yeah that happened..

Just for histories sake lets not forget the vaunted leap into modern uniform design with the advent of the Atlanta Falcons black uni's coupled with the Run & Shoot. Heck those black uniforms had me sold, as did Chris Miller, remember the QB's of the old NFC West (Miller, Montana, BOBBY HEBERT, Jim Everett) whew!!!

Finally I'd like to throw in a dose of Alvin Harper. # 80, the other reciever in the Boyz dynasty. Every season I thought he was going to get better and I ajusted my fantasy roster for the day that Jimmy Johnson was going to unleash Aimans arm. Dang you Emmitt Smith, Dang you overpowering offemsive line.

Oh yeah I'd also like to shout out Willie Gault, sprint on....

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by jason (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 10:32pm

For current players, Stephen Davis has to be a shoe-in for this years performance alone. Who else has played in 13 games, rushed for only 549 yards, but has 12 touchdowns.

If the Bus weren't a possible HOF he'd make it on the same credentials for the last two years.

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by Al (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 10:32pm

No way Fred Taylor gets in. There are way too many owners who have been burned by a Taylor injury for him to get the required 75% of the vote.

Michael Jackson is a good call. He was the #1 fantasy WR in 1996 with the Ravens and had two years as a legit #2 fantasy WR in 92 and 93.

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by Merman (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 10:56pm

Is this post supposed to be a joke? No one has mentioned anything in the comments, but the case of the over-scented candle?? Also, is 77 being sarcastic? I hope so.

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by Ron Mexico (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 11:19pm

Carl Pickens has been mentioned, but not a team-mate of his: the immortal Darnay Scott. He was never really an elite receiver, but 7 straight seasons of 40+ catches, 797+ yards, and 6 straight seasons with 5+ TDs.

Actually, there's one guy I'm really surprised hasn't been mentioned: Terrell Davis. 4 incredible seasons before getting hurt.

Eddie George, Jake Reed, Tony Martin, Derrick Alexander are good candidates

James Jett for his 12 TD 1997 season.

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by Chris (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 11:21pm

Cris Carter in 1996 hauled in 122 receptions for 1371 yards and 17 TD's........

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by Chris (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 11:23pm

Correction, 1995

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by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Fri, 12/16/2005 - 11:52pm

RE #92:

Yes, but Chris Carter has an outside chance of making the HoF. This HOF are for the guys that put up good stats once or a few times and were great fantasy players but have no chance in Hell of getting into the HoF.

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by jay shaver (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 12:01am

wow you guys are as nuts as my league.
(hey we do live video taped owner interviews after every draft) my point is BUDDY RYAN not mentioned as a potential coach is unheard of. come on BUDDY RYAN is what we are to fantasy football. emotional very emotional

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by B (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 12:03am

I think we need to add something to the requirements. It's not enough to put up great fantasy numbers. There has to be that year when they fall off a cliff and they sabotage many fantasy teams (Usually caused by injury or age, but bonus points for those inexplicable collapses like when a player suddenly decides to retire a week after the fantasy draft).

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by Anthony (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 12:12am

Greatest Idea Ever. The next person that gets in should definitely be Greg Bell. The man had 1336 total yards and more importantly 18 total TDs in 1988 and may be the least recognized RB on that list. Also if Wayne Fontes ever gets into the FFHoF I will be irate seeing that he is personally responsible for the early retirement of Barry Sanders.

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by Cobra Verde (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 12:22am

I'll throw another one on the Jeff George pile. His performance for my '99 team (we lost our first five games, but won the next nine) earned him a Whitlock-esque approval rating in my household.

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by Ted (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 12:29am

I nominate Lorenzo White, the Houston running back on those run and shoot teams. In 1990, he runs for 702 yards, the year after he runs for 405. Then in 1992 he puts up a monster season of over 1800 total yards and 8 TD's. The year after that? Eight games played and 465 yards rushing. Geez, how many teams would he have killed in 1993? I will also nominate numerous seemingly interchangable wideouts on run and shoot teams (Bert Emmanuel, Haywood Jefferies, Curtis Duncan etc.) How about FO's favourite "much better in fantasy than real life" running back Deuce McCallister?
Another classic guy like that IMO is Drew Bledsoe. 9 3000 yard seasons in a career!! Bonus points because you're also happy if your fantasy defense is playing against Bledsoe. Turnovers and sacks galore!
But the guy who got shafted in not being inducted into the inaugral class is definitely Jeff George. As someone at Deadspin pointed out (they've linked to this article) the difference between fantasy football and real football is that in fantasy ball you actually want Jeff George on your team. I still have fond memories of his awesome 1997 season (3917 yards, 29/9 TD/INT ratio) for a terrible 4-12 Raiders team. Good times. As an added bonus he followed that up with an 1186 yard 4TD masterpiece in 1998.

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by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 12:42am

I think that the Denver RBs should all be in as a group, since many of them are the perfect example of a one-and-done type of FF player (this is the only way TD gets in, since he has a decent chance of going into the real HoF) and as per Bill Simmons, I think that there should be a seperate section for the one white reciever who every year has the good season and then turns to a turd the year afterwards.

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by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 12:53am

RE #69:

Dude, if I could get one of those circa '91 green Eagles Jerseys with Cunninghamn's number on the back and "QB Eagles" on the back, I would wear that to everything including job interviews and funerals.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 12:57am

Could we have a wing for runningback committees? The kind where no amount of logic, insidie info, or gut instinct could tell you who would start from week to week? They wouldn't be members of the hall perse, but have their own little wing with exhibits...

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by BillT (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 1:07am

Jeff George, Robert Smith, Jeff George's mustache, and Steve Buerlein all get my vote.

This article and the ensuing comments have been a blast to read.

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by BillT (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 1:09am

Also, "Any Denver Running Back" should be all elected en mass or something.

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by Adam (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 1:29am

The only problem with "Denver RB" going in en masse is that Clinton Portis still has a career.

I really want to focus on the flukes and oddballs, not the "pretty good player who was recognized as such during this career". That's why I want to start with ultimate vultureback Leroy Hoard.

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by Fnor (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 1:35am

#32: If I did the loser league (if), my team would definitely be "The Computer Is Your Friend."

On a related note, this has to be one of the most absurd things I've ever read about. Kudos.

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by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 2:38am

RE 106:

With that line of reasoning, you tend to wipe out a lot of great canidates. Does Rob Moore count because he had two or three decent fantasy seasons amid a sea of nothingness, or does a guy like Otis Anderson count where he was a pretty good RB and was named to the pro bowl his first two years in the league while he was with the St. Louis Cardinals, suffers through 4-6 years (depending on how you look at it) of suckage and then goes on a two year, 1700yd/25 TD tear and then reverts to really sucking. Or do you consider the molds of guys like Bobby Heberet, Chris Chandler, Steve Beuerlien and Patrick Jeffers who were medicore and then had two to three good years or in the case of Steve who was medicore at best and then blew it up or a guy like Jeffers who had almost double the catches in one year than he had in his every other year in the league combined and had 85% of his total touchdown total in 5 years in the league in the same year.

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by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 2:40am

Holy crap.. I forgot Jeffers is white! That just cinches his place in the FFHoF in the white guy has the good year and then goes kaput section!

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by jimmo (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 3:08am

another vote for Aaron Brooks as a shoo-in (please, enough with the "shoe-ins") first ballot FFHof-er when he's done.

Dorsey Levens belongs somewhere, maybe on the "played w/Favre" ticket; 10 TDs as a part-timer in 96, a huge 97, an injured 98 (after a holdout I believe?) and then a worse-than-it-looked 99, with a thousand yards and ten TDs, four of them coming in week 17. Bonus points on my ballot for playing against me in that week 17, before we decided week 17 championship games were not the way to go.

(yes, i'm still bitter. I drafted Warner, Faulk and Bruce that year, picked up Marcus Robinson during that inexplicable McCown year after Conway got hurt, and had Watters as my other RB, and lost in week 17 as the Rams coasted....)

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by ChrisFromNJ (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 4:24am

Shameless homer pick for both Rodney Hampton and Joe Morris here. More (non-Giant) running backs: I could see Jamal Lewis and Ricky Williams making it in soon, and who could forget the immortal Garrison Hearst?

Looking at the article's possible 2006 slate, I'm kind of confused at how Ricky Watters is on the list when the goal is to only enshrine those with no chance in hell of making the real Hall: I'd think that 5 Pro Bowls, 1 Super Bowl ring, and 10,000 yards rushing (15th all time) would seem to give him an excellent chance of getting in eventually.

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by pcs (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 4:25am

When they get the FFHoF Contributors' Wing built, they should put Dan Snyder in there. He did so much for the game by being the first man to play FF with an actual NFL team.

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by the K (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 6:32am

Wow, so many replies, I haven't read them all yet before posting this but I need to get this out of my woozy brain before I forget. First:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. It's decided, next year, my loser league team will be called "Kevin Gilbride's Offensive Genius."

Having gotten that out of the way, I'd like to suggest James Stewart for RB. I love saying "Jimmah Stew-wart" when asked who my fantasy running back is. Also, he had a great season (two actually, I think, the brain isn't working tonight but wasn't it 98 and 99?) And of course, without looking, I'm sure his playoff record will speak for itself.

WR: Quinn Early. Great nickname, one breakout year behind the just-past-his-prime Andre Reed, and, as a Bills fan I nominate this pick merely because I remember so many other Bills fans being upset when some young, upstart, drafted-for-his-return-skills guy started taking Early's playing time. Guy by the name of Eric Moulds. Plus, after the Bills, he went to the Jets and did absolutely nothing.

TE is a tough category, as I don't ever remember any particularly noticaable fantasy TEs that aren't possible HoFers. I gotta go with Pupunu because, well, his name is Pupunu.

K: C'mon, the Bills scored a lot of points in the early 90s, and Norwood was a valuable fantasy kicker. Enough said, this guy must be first ballot.

Finally for QB, although Jeff George is a wonderful pick and one I would gladly make, I must instead offer a write-in. At least, I offer the write-in after this season ends. Rich "Loose" Gannon, whom I singlehandedly rode to Fantasy greatness with a 14-2 mark and a Fantasy Super Bowl title in the Raiders' 2002 SB season. Seriously, this guy was worth 40 a lot of weeks, and if he got under 30 I was shocked.

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by Theo (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 9:49am

Late crappy comebacks after retirement should boost consideration.

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by Mr. Bad Example (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 10:58am

I can't believe no one has mentioned double last-named RB Dalton Hilliard, who had 1200+ yards and 13 TDs in 1989 for the Saints and then, um, well, you see...

Also, no full HOFers, but could we cut Brett Favre in half and give 1990s Favre to Canton and 2000- Favre to Pennsauken?

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by Ron Mexico (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 11:35am

Well, if we're going with more flukey guys, how about Qadry Ismail? After 4 mediocre years with Minnesota, he actually went 2 years without catching a single pass. Then, inexplicably, he hauled in over 1000 yards and 6 TDs in 1999. A relatively quiet 2000 was followed up by another 1000 yard season and 7 TDs. He played only one more season.

And of course, the other Ismail: Raghib "Rocket" Ismail. He's got the stupid nickname. Had big years in 1998 and 1999 in an otherwise mediocre career.

Michael Westbrook: Great 1999. Crappy the rest of his career.

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by Ron Mexico (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 11:43am

Lamar Smith: 1100+ yards, 14 Rush TDs, 2 Rec TDs in 2000. The rest of his career: squat. Well, that's not entirely true. He seems like he might have been a bit of a TD vulture at points, too.

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by Kibbles (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 1:21pm

Re #39: Tiki Barber blows Dominick Davis out of the water. He's great in regular leagues, top-3 in yardage-heavy leagues, and he's always available in the 2nd or 3rd round. He lead the league in yards from scrimmage last year, fell out of the first round ENTIRELY in most fantasy drafts (while DomDavis was a solid 1st rounder), and has proceeded to lead the league in yards from scrimmage this season, too.

Also, I'll second the Bobby Turner (Denver's RB coach) nomination, along with Alex Gibbs (who also turned around Atlanta's running game), Gary Kubiak, and Mike Shanahan. I know, I know, Shanny's got a great shot at the REAL Hall of Fame... but he ran an offense that let OLANDIS GARY RUSH FOR 1200 YARDS IN 12 GAMES. OLANDIS GARY!

Speaking of Olandis Gary...

Oh, and there needs to be an entire WING of the FFHoF devoted to goal-line backs. Guys like Kyle Johnson, Brandon Jacobs, and T.J. Duckett this season. You know they're only going to get 2 touches a game, but they're still worth starting in most leagues since one of those touches is guaranteed to be a touchdown. Name one other player you can start on the suspicion that he's going to get at least one touch?

Re #92: Actually, there’s one guy I’m really surprised hasn’t been mentioned: Terrell Davis. 4 incredible seasons before getting hurt.

Davis isn't eligable. He's getting consideration for the REAL Hall of Fame (under the "Gale Sayers Exception"), which automatically disqualifies him from FFHoF consideration, whether you think he has a legitimate chance of making it or not.

Re #101: I think Denver's coaches should be enshrined. I think Denver's O-line should be enshrined. However, I don't think you can enshrine all Denver RBs. Portis and Davis were the genuine article, guys who would have been in the HoF discussion no matter WHAT team they played for. Both were pro bowlers.

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by Adam (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 4:01pm

BEST. THREAD. EVER!

I'd also like to nominate Yancey Thigpen.

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by Matt (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 4:46pm

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/ramblings.php?p=2956&cat=1
Based on this old article I believe Jon "Chucky" Gruden deserves to make the FFHoF.

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by Bright Blue Shorts (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 4:48pm

Here'd be my thoughts, some aforementioned.

QB - Rich Gannon
RB - Ricky Waters
RB - Bobby Humprey
WR - Sterling Sharpe
WR - Irving Fryar
TE - Brent Jones

BBS :)

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by Paul (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 5:17pm

Hmmm, all my brain can do is to think of players who were waaay better "In Real Life" than in fantasy... we can call them Aik-men

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by little red tractor (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 6:11pm

Brilliant article. Always been interested learning more about the more marginal names in the NFL. Heck, I was in a band called Providence Steamroller. (Every one in England thought it was some kind of Buffalo Springfield reference !?!?)

Would Webster Slaughter get in? Don't know the stats but his name used to be mentioned a heck of a lot.

As aside issue, can anyone recommend books or sites that deal with the more obscure stuff.

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by Rocco (not verified) :: Sat, 12/17/2005 - 11:47pm

Another name that needs to be added: Karim Abdul-Jabbar. Lots of TDs in 2 years... and then done.

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by Ted (not verified) :: Sun, 12/18/2005 - 1:37am

I think we need to separate the Hall into various wings. There's the "fantasy staples who aren't that good in real life" wing (Aaron Brooks, Deuce McCallister, Jeff George, Travis Henry, Drew Bledsoe, Carl Pickens, Jamal Lewis, Errict Rhett, Barry Foster, Christian Okoye). There's the wing for players who actually were good but not good enough for long enough to make the real Hall. These players still had a real impact on fantasy ball though (Chris Warren, Randall Cunningham, Robert Smith, Rickey Watters, Priest Holmes, Rich Gannon (every year from 2000-2002 he got drafted too late because people expected him to collapse), Herman Moore, Ben Coates and Michael Jackson (AUNT BELLA!! Wait a minute I got a call on the other line... MICHAEL JACKSON!!)).
The Run and shoot offense has to have a seperate wing (Andre Rison, Chris Miller, Bert Emmanuel, Haywood Jefferies, Curtis Duncan, Earnest Givens).
There also has to be a wing for goal line vultures (Bubba Franks, Tom Rathman, Moe Williams, Leroy Hoard and Stephen Davis just for this year. In addition to this there should also be a photocopied stat line of Jerome Bettis' 5 carry, 1yard, 3 touchdown game against Oakland in 2004.)
The next wing belongs to one year wonders who had one great season and then killed hundreds of fantasy teams when they reverted to normal the next year (Lorenzo White, Don Majkowski, Scott "footsteps" Mitchell, Dalton Hilliard).
The final wing belongs to two kickers (Scott Norwood and Gary Anderson) who racked up large point totals yet shanked the most important one.

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by Lions fan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/18/2005 - 2:34am

He didn't have a brain but he had one phenoominal 1995 season: Scott Mitchell.

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by Ted (not verified) :: Sun, 12/18/2005 - 3:20am

As an addendum to post 125 I would like to add Mark Rypien and Patrick Jeffers to the one year wonder wing.

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by Wes (not verified) :: Sun, 12/18/2005 - 5:26am

QB - Scott Mitchell - 1995
RB - Joe Morris 1985
RB - Greg Bell 1988
WR - Sterling Sharpe - 1994
WR - Mark Clayton - 1984

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by J-E-T-S (not verified) :: Sun, 12/18/2005 - 12:48pm

Some Steelers worthy of mention.

Retired:

Charles Johnson- twice followed up a 7TD season with 1TD the next year.

Neil O'Donnell- makes a strong case with his Super Bowl performance against the Cowboys.

Active:

Tommy Maddox- comes out of nowehere to have 2 great seasons, only to return to irrelevance.

Plaxico Burress- 2 seasons 1000+yds, 2 lousy years, great half-season this year until I traded Larry Johnson for him, will likely cost me a shot in my league's championship game.

Lastly, Wayne Chrebet deserves to be in some HoF, this one seems as good as any.

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by Matt (not verified) :: Sun, 12/18/2005 - 7:06pm

Chrebet could be in the concussion hall fo fame, with guys like Frank Wycek, Steve Young, and Troy Aikman.

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by NF (not verified) :: Sun, 12/18/2005 - 9:15pm

Ben Coates has an outside chance of making the real NFL HoF. He carried the Patriots passing game for about three consecutive season, and was second or first in recieving for about 6 years. He also has a ring playing behind Shannon Sharpe in the 2001 Super Bowl. I'm not sure that is relevant to his HoF potential, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

Also, I think defenses should be included in the FFHoF. If a defense could score a lot of fantasy points in a continuous 5 year period, the defense from that stretch of fantasy greatness should be in.

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by NF (not verified) :: Sun, 12/18/2005 - 9:24pm

This is real, right?

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by yep (not verified) :: Mon, 12/19/2005 - 3:20pm

Quarterbacks: Jeff Hostetler. Pioneer of the running TD for quarterbacks. In our league we have the Jeff Hostetler rule which reduces the number of points for a TD run by a QB.

TRUE STORY: I'm on the el in Chicago on the way to the airport, when I see two guys with the Hostetler pornstache that look a lot like Jeff. One is wearing a Raiders jacket while the other is wearing a Giants jacket. As it turns out, it was Jeff's father and brother. (This is shortly before the Raiders Sunday night game against the Bears). So I strike up a conversation with the two, and it turns out that they both play fantasy football. So I ask which one of them ended up with Jeff. It turns out that the brother did.

ME: So you took him first overall, right?
BROTHER: No, I took him seventh.
ME (to Jeff's Dad): Well who went first?
DAD: I took Marino. And I got Elway in the second round.

So Jeff Hostetler's own dad had the first pick in the family fantasy football league draft, and passed on him. That's how seriously the Hostetler's take fantasy football.

Running Backs: Ricky Watters. Like Hostetler, Watters' ability to catch TD passes out of the backfield made him a premium player in leagues that awarded bonuses for TD catches by a RB.

Wide Receivers: Fred Barnett. For the dubious reason that he would have four TDs in a season, and three of them would be in one game. In scoring leagues, he was the fantasy equivalent of Russian Roulette.

Tight Ends: Wesley Walls. No one, other than Ben Coats, meant as much in the early days to the TE position.

Kickers: Gary Anderson. Al Del Greco was an excellent initial pick.

Coaches/Innovators: Wayne Fontes. For his dubious ability to rob Barry Sanders owners of points for short TDs year after year.

This is obviously a joke, but it would be a nice set-aside on the FO site to have a fantasy HOF, no? Someone should do it.

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by Paul Katcher (not verified) :: Mon, 12/19/2005 - 4:08pm

I once did a piece on the luckiest fantasy sports seasons in baseball and football:

http://paulkatcher.com/archives/000390.shtml

The patron saint in football has got to be Kurt Warner, followed by Steve Beuerlein in 1999, Marcus Robinson in 1999 and Brett Perriman in 1995.

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by admin :: Mon, 12/19/2005 - 4:56pm

By popular demand, Fantasy Hall of Fame balloting will now be included in the Year End Football Outsiders Awards. We'll see if Jason can draw us some busts or something.

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by Sophandros (not verified) :: Mon, 12/19/2005 - 6:33pm

I have to nominate Michael Haynes, Chris Miller, and Bobby Hebert.

Mad props with Quinn Early and Reuben Mayes, esp.

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by Mike B. (not verified) :: Mon, 12/19/2005 - 11:08pm

#100 -

Mine, for one. Damn Lo White!

My nominations:

Terry Allen is a lock. Pickens and Humpheries, too.

Billy Brooks, who inexplicably had 11 TDs and helped me win my SB in '95.

Darnay Scott, who had several solid seasons and 1022 yards in 1999, aiding me greatly in a championship drive that year after I picked him up off waivers in week three.

What about Chris Miller? He threw twenty-some TDs in 91, and was generally highly regarded at draft time, despite the fact that he never played all 16.

Garrison Hearst - a lot of good seasons, has no chance at the real HoF, led Az, Cin and SF in rushing, 4 1000yd seasons, good receiving numbers, and will only be remembered for an injury in the playoffs.

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by Scott M. (not verified) :: Tue, 12/20/2005 - 3:05pm

Neil Anderson from 1988-1990. Guy was awesome. Rushing yards, catches, td's, the whole magilla.

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by SteveGarvin (not verified) :: Tue, 12/20/2005 - 4:19pm

#125

I think there needs to be another wing added - this wing would fill a role similar to the "This Guy Invented the Leather Nose Guard" and the "Here's Some Really Cool Archival Footage From The Past Which We Have Here Even Though The Guy Talking Really Sucked" areas in the regular HOF. It will provide some context that can be used to really appreciate just who Tery Allen is.

I present to you:

The "This Guy Gets 60% Of His Production In About 2 Games Per Season" wing. Here we feature fantasy players who are actually the equivalent of a walking lottery ticket.

Leading current candidates would be Jerry Porter, Justin McCareins, Chris Chambers, Josh McCown and Napoleon Kaufman.

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by Deacon (not verified) :: Tue, 12/20/2005 - 4:39pm

QB: Warner's '99 season will go down in Fantasy lore (I drafted him in the 15th round to back up Bledsoe... haha), but Jeff Blake was always available late and would always throw TDs when in the lineup.

RB: Terry Allen in a landslide... two bad knees. Tommy Vardell gets a nod on my ballot for his 2 years in Detroit where he averaged a TD per 2 carries.

WR: This will soon be reserved for under-the-radar Derrick Mason. But I'll go with another Raven/Brown here, Michael Jackson. He scored as often as his more infamous namesake.

TE: Wesley Walls or Bubba Franks

KR: Tremain Mack, member of my '99 team, just collecting thousands of yards for a horrible Cinci team... was actually drafted the next year by another team, even though he was sering 365 days in jail for drugs.

K: Steve Christie, destroyed, even in cold weather on a high scoring team... most good kickers are still active

D... uhh Ravens, Bucs... any year. They score alot.

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by Darren Rasmussen (not verified) :: Tue, 12/20/2005 - 5:01pm

I feel there should be a "Pioneer's Wing" to the FFHoF for players who predate Fantasy Football, but who embody all that it represents. I present for enshrinement the immortal Terdell Middleton of the 1978 Packers: 1448 Rushing/Receiving yards (7-year career total: 2707) & 12 TD's (career total: 18). Terdell was the one-year wonder's one-year wonder. He was the Paleozoic-era John Settle. Terdell's presenter at the induction ceremony will be LeShon Johnson. Middleton was the Jackie Robinson of brief stardom, paving the way for future WhoDat RB's like Mark Higgs, Reggie Cobb, Eric Pegram, Napolean Kaufman, and the Greens (Harold, Gaston, & Robert), not to mention WR's such as Yancey Thigpen, O. J. McDuffie, and Qadry Ismail. Ah, Terdell, we hardly knew ye.

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by Frank (not verified) :: Tue, 12/20/2005 - 6:25pm

how about two of the most frequent six carries for four yards and three touchdowns in one game players of all time.
Gerald Riggs and Larry Kinnebrew.

Also Touchdown Darrell Turner of Seattle who seemed only to catch passes if they were for six.

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by Ron (not verified) :: Thu, 01/05/2006 - 9:57pm

I vote for Icky Woods and Harold Green of the Bengals.

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by Joe D (not verified) :: Fri, 01/06/2006 - 5:11pm

Terry Allen and Carl Pickens are shoo-ins. No one has mentioned Karim Abdul-Jabbar. 96' had 11TD's and 1116 rushing yards. In 97' had 16 total TD's (league leader), in 3 playoff games in 97' and 98' had total of 116 rushing yards and 0 TD's(adding to his Hall of Fame credentials) Lastly who has a better name than him. (no need for a nickname!!)

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by bryan (not verified) :: Mon, 09/11/2006 - 2:31am

does any one know who the tight end was for the 92 houston oilers?

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by milo (not verified) :: Fri, 07/27/2007 - 11:10am

This is great. For once, my beloved Saints are so well represented. Jim Everett, Bobby Hebert, Rueben Mayes, Flipper Anderson, Quinn Early, Brett Perriman, Wesley Walls.
But I think you missed a nomination for coach: OC Carl Smith deserves the nod for producing all these great players.
What's that you say? Flipper Anderson never played for Carl Smith & the Saints?
No way Flipper holds the all time single game record without Carl's offense going three and out for an entire half while starting with a big lead. Carl totally shares responsibility for that monster game.

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by Jason Mulgrew aka The Mul Dawg (not verified) :: Sat, 07/28/2007 - 12:40am

Hey milo,

Flipper Anderson never played for the Saints. Dumbass.

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by Jason Mulgrew aka The Mul Dawg (not verified) :: Sat, 07/28/2007 - 12:48am

Oh sorry man. I posted that before I finished reading your post.
Sincere apologies from the Mul Dawg.

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by starzero (not verified) :: Sat, 07/28/2007 - 2:25pm

the only guy i care about, though i can't even remember his name, is that idiot kicker. he had some amazing years in indy, and i suppose they could lead to eventual real hall consideration, but then he crashed and burned in dallas, to be replaced with martin grammatica, who hadn't kicked in over a year. vanderjagt had the off-field attitude of rex grossman but he didn't throw a super bowl-losing interception.

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by Nathan (not verified) :: Mon, 07/30/2007 - 5:31pm

Quarterbacks: Mark Rypien.

Running Backs: Ricky Watters.

Wide Receivers: Billy Brooks, Herman Moore

Tight Ends: Keith Jackson

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by Bobman (not verified) :: Tue, 07/31/2007 - 4:23pm

Nathan,
Isn't Bill Brooks in the Colts ring of honor or whatever it's called? Wouldn't that disqualify him? Talk about toiling in anonymity.

Personally, I'm thinking Gary Hogeboom--there was a replacement game in 1987 for which he crossed the picket lines and threw for 4 or 5 TDs. The stud. It was even memorialized on SNL by a George Plimpton impersonator saying "Good for you! Gary Hogeboom!" And without that game, they wouldn't have made the playoffs that year.

As long as I am staggering down memory lane, Joe Washington, always a threat to score until they outlawed tear-away jerseys. The 4-way TD MNF game versus the Pats back in 1980 or so.... I guess that's ancient history as far as FF is concerned, however.

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by Dan Walker (not verified) :: Sun, 11/11/2007 - 2:34pm

I have a questions. Why not induct the owners of fantasy football leagues. I have been playing since 1994 and it would be cool to be in the Hall with the likes of the superstars.