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16 Nov 2006

The Week in Quotes: November 16, 2006

compiled by Alex Carnevale

ME TOO, RANDY, ME TOO

"Maybe because I'm unhappy and I'm not too much excited about what's going on... So, my concentration and focus level tend to go down sometimes when I'm in a bad mood."

-- Raiders wide receiver Randy Moss (SFGate.com)

"All I can say is if you put me in a good situation and make me happy, man, you get good results."

-- Moss

"The one thing I do still have is the love for the game. I still want to be the best no matter what it is."

-- Moss

MAN, I SURE FEEL SORRY FOR WHOEVER THAT GUY'S COACH IS. WHAT'S THAT YOU SAY?

"That's what he said? Well, then that's a problem he has. I don't have that problem. That's a problem that he has to deal with."

-- Raiders head coach Art Shell, on Moss' comments.

"You hate to see that. You hate to hear that."

-- Shell

"I just think that my game has been below the radar. When I came to the Oakland Raiders, there was a big emphasis put on bringing back the deep ball... And, that's one thing that has bothered me, knowing that we have weapons to go out there and stretch the field, such as myself, but we're not getting it done. I don't know if you put that on the players' shoulders, if you put that on the offensive coordinator's shoulders, but we're 2-7."

-- Moss

"I don't want to start a contest with a young man, but for him to come out and say those things ... totally off-base. To start making statements about what's in and what's not in, then you need to take a hard look at what's there."

-- Shell, on the comments of QB Andrew Walter, who stated that the Raiders playbook lacked "depth."

"To throw things out there like that, that's not taking accountability for what you're doing. When you speak out, you need to know what you're talking about."

-- Shell

"Look, words don't sway me as far as that goes. It's what you do on the field and how we feel the team is going to respond to you as a player."

-- Shell

FOR INSTANCE, THAT DINNER WITH JESSICA SIMPSON -- LIKELY TO BITE HIM IN THE FORM OF VD

"Some of the things he does will eventually jump up and bite you."

-- Cowboys head coach Bill Parcells, on QB Tony Romo's fake-spike near-interception play against Arizona.

"Dumb players do dumb things."

-- Parcells (Scout.com)

SOMETIMES, IT'S GOOD TO BE THE OTHER GUY

"There were some really warm comments from the fans as I walked by. My favorite was, 'Mix in a salad.'"

-- Jets coach Eric Mangini, on his return to Gillette Stadium (Boston Herald)

"I don't fight coaches. I fight the opposing offensive line. I don't always agree with every decision that is made, but I respect it."

--Patriots DE Richard Seymour, who has just three sacks this season. (Patriots.com)

"They outplayed us and they outcoached us."

-- Seymour

"He wouldn't want me saying this, but, yeah, we wanted it a little extra for Coach. The guys were saying Belichick referred to him as 'the other guy' or something like that. Anytime somebody disrespects our coach, of course guys want to step up and play harder for him."

-- Laveranues Coles, on Belichick's behavior towards Mangini.

CAREFUL THERE KEVAN -- BILL WOULD FEEL NO COMPUNCTION ABOUT HAVING RODNEY HARRISON END YOUR CAREER

"He's definitely been dissing Coach. We showed how we felt about that on the field."

-- Jets running back Kevan Barlow, on Bill Belichick (New York Daily News)

"We played this game Wednesday in practice."

-- Barlow, of Mangini having the Jets practice in a rainstorm.

"Woo! Unbelievable! You don't want to overstate the 'woo!' or over-emphasize the 'woo!' because we have a lot of season left, but it's a pretty emphatic 'woo!'"

-- Jets LB Matt Chatham, a former Patriot.

SEND THESE GUYS 'MANUFACTURING CONSENT' -- CORPORATION CONTROL HAS GONE TOO FAR!

"It doesn't mean anything because it's not the number I want. It's the number I'm stuck with because the NFL is the 'No Fun League' and wants everybody to be in certain numbers. Who cares?"

-- Ravens cornerback Chris McAlister

"I thought about [buying the number from Larry Webster], but it wasn't that sentimental to me because I was coming to the NFL and thought I needed to make a new start. He actually offered to sell it to me because he got suspended during my rookie year. But I said, 'No, Web. That's your number. Go ahead and take it.... You've been in the league longer than me.' It was a respect thing."

-- Ravens G Jonathan Ogden, on how DT Larry Webster offered him his number 79. (Baltimore Sun)

"Last year, when I first got here and they would announce '21,' I'd look. It took me a while to realize that it wasn't my number.... It is part of a player's identity. Sometimes change is good, but you identify players by their numbers."

-- DB Samari Rolle

HMM ... WHO DO YOU THINK WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR TRAVIS HAFNER'S SEASON-ENDING INJURY AND THE LATEST TRAVIS TRITT ALBUM FLOPPING? THAT'S RIGHT, NFL OFFICIALS

"What are these refs looking at? Do they know the rules? I mean, if they don't know the rules, then why are you out there [refereeing] the game? But I'm not going to blame it on them."

-- Vikings WR Travis Taylor, on an offensive pass interference call and an illegal blocking call that the league apologized to him for. (St. Paul Pioneer Press)

"I've been getting some bad calls this year. I don't know what the deal is. I don't know if they got it out for me."

-- Taylor

"It doesn't do me any good now. It's very frustrating, knowing that those plays could have kept a drive going or put points on the board. We win 10-9 in San Francisco, and in Buffalo, it was a third-and-4. So we didn't get a first down, and we had to settle for a field goal."

-- Taylor

"That was a bad call by the umpire and that's what bothers me. We all saw it. Everybody saw it.... I hope they hear me in New York because that was field position and we lost by a point.''

-- Titans coach Jeff Fisher, who was fined for this one.

CORPORATIONS! LIES! CONSPIRACY!

"The [NFL's 30 other] teams can't afford this. Some are operating in the red now."

-- an unnamed owner, on the new Giants/Jets stadium

"I am concerned about the cost and I am concerned about how the cost is increasing."

-- Gene Upshaw, the NFL Players Association executive director. (Business First)

THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T LOVE THIS ONE WAS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY CUT OFF FROM SEEING THE END OF THE GAME AT 4:15

"It gives you a little bit of confidence, but nothing gives you confidence like winning. We're playing to win. We're not playing to have 400 or 500 yards of total offense. We're playing for a win, and we didn't do that today."

-- Bengals QB Carson Palmer on the sheer volume of offense in his team's loss to the Chargers Sunday (Bengals.com)

"When I say AFL to you, does that make a point? This was a shootout. It was interesting because, even at the half, our players knew we weren't playing the way we are capable of playing. We felt confident that we could move the ball. We made some changes at the half that we felt would work. Some did, some didn't. It was the kind of game that makes the National Football League the most popular sport in the world. If you couldn't enjoy this one, other than Marvin Lewis and his crowd, I don't know how you could enjoy anything."

-- Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer

"We're going to keep moving it down the field. We're not going to sit on this one at all. This is no team to sit on. It was fun. It was identical to the game at home last year with Indianapolis. No holds-barred, you're playing with the lead, but you have the lead playing like you're playing from behind. It's fun."

-- Palmer, on what he thought after his team took a commanding lead in the first half.

"I wasn't enjoying that it was happening, but it was fun to watch Carson. He was on fire. I know, as a quarterback, that when you get into that kind of rhythm, it's tough to stop you."

-- Philip Rivers, Chargers quarterback

"But when you (are down by that much) you can sit there and continue to have the crap beat out of you or step up and make plays. At times like that, you are not doing it for yourself. You're doing it for your teammates. Your family. People at the game. And once you start playing unselfish and everyone gets on the same page, great things happen."

-- Mike Goff, Chargers right guard

WE WERE GOING TO SHOOT SOMEONE IN THE KNEECAP THIS SUMMER ANYWAY

"The guy who hit me is in L.A. a lot, so me and my home boys will have something to say to him."

-- Bengals WR T.J. Houshmanzadeh, on the hit from Marlon McCree that knocked him unconscious. He did not know who hit him when he said this. (Bengals.com)

"I hope he's OK. I didn't intentionally try to hurt him. On the first series of the game I went for the interception and I missed it on the tight end. That play and this play [were similar]. He was coming across and I was coming out of the middle and I saw the ball but I lost the ball. As opposed to trying to go for the interception and have them complete it, I went for the hit. I was early and I feel badly for it. This game is dangerous enough as it is. You don't need dirty shots and I'm not a dirty player. I'm going to be praying for him and I'm going to call him and make sure he's OK. I didn't try to take him out of the game. It was a bad hit. I shouldn't have done it."

-- Marlon McCree

"I'm good, I could have gone back in. I'm kind of shocked. I thought I had a concrete head. I'm usually able to get hit and it never really hurts me."

-- Houshmandzadeh

WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DO AGAIN?

"I don't call the game on Sunday because I need to be in other areas at some point. So I can't be there making adjustments on defense and be conscious of what's going on with the offense. I don't choose that to be my role. And I think the person that does that needs to be hands-on in that fashion. He has to be a part of that in that way."

-- Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis

"Coaches get too much credit and too much blame. They can put you in good situations by putting you in this type of coverage against that type of team and disguise blitzes. Anybody can call a defense, it's getting the right calls at the right time. I think Chuck's a good defensive coordinator. I think we have to look at ourselves first instead of looking at the coaches."

-- Lewis

"At some point players have to take responsibility to get their jobs done. A lot of the things that errors were made on were not the first time through. It was through the week on particular plays, particular formations, particular defensive snaps in practice, and it was done correctly (in practice). It was done correctly earlier in the football game at certain points. It comes down to the player being consistent with it. What happens is that when you start pressing, then you try and alter what you do a little bit, because the last time, the other guy wasn't where he was supposed to be in the fit."

-- Lewis

"I'm involved with both sides of the football. I'm not the defensive coordinator, nor am I the offensive coordinator. But I make suggestions all the time. I make suggestions on the game plan, I sit in the meetings on Tuesday with both sides of the football, and ultimately everything has to go through me and I approve what we do."

-- Lewis

OH YEAH, AND DRUNK DRIVING IS BAD, TOO. OR SO I HAVE HEARD. I MEAN, REALLY, WHO'S TO SAY?

"I thought he acted extremely selfishly from being out that late in the first place on a Friday night to putting himself and other people in our community at risk by the reckless driving. And on top of that he had the DUI citation."

-- Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio, of OT Khalif Barnes' arrest this week.

GOING FOR IT

"The score was 24-20 when it was my decision to go with the field goal, and from that point on we were behind the eight-ball. It's very difficult to cover field goals because the people are not the kind of people who do coverage for you. That's one of the risks you take, if the field goal is short, again, that's my call and no one else's."

-- Giants coach Tom Coughlin on the play in which the Bears' special teams unit ran the FG back for a touchdown (New York Post)

"You've got to give your team a chance to win. Was it the smartest thing? I don't know, but where we are headed with our football team we got to send a message to our football team about the way we are going to play and what we are going to be about."

-- Texans coach Gary Kubiak, on gambling on a fourth-and-1 late in his team's victory over the Jaguars. Samkon Gado picked up the first.

"There's a lot of teams that have won two or three games in this league that won big football games yesterday. There is a fine line in this league amongst teams, it's pretty dang close and it's hard to win in this league. You can do everything right and it's hard to win. You look at yesterday, we get four turnovers, we don't turn the ball over and we've got to make a play at the end of the game to get out of there alive with the win."

-- Kubiak

"To win this game here is huge. It's bigger than a monkey off our back. No, it's a cow. It's a longhorn."

-- Texans guard Chester Pitts

DON'T MAKE MY WIFE MAKE HER FAMOUS POT ROAST NOW

''He can come see me. This goes way beyond football."

-- Falcons DB DeAngelo Hall, on Dominic Raiola's antagonistic comments towards him.

"I don't know who he thinks he's talking to, but that's my address, that's my phone number. Make sure he gets it, and tell him to come see me."

-- Hall

"I ain't said two words to this chump. If he wants to see me, he can come see me and tell him to bring his homeboys with him.''

-- Hall (Miami Herald)

REQUISITE JOKE ABOUT "PLAYOFFS ... PLAYOFFS?!?"

"If you start asking about that you know what might happen. It's like I tell my kids, 'Do it one more time, I'm taking your car keys.'"

-- Dolphins coach Nick Saban, after his team's second straight victory on Sunday.

AND THEN A HERO COMES ALONG/WITH THE STRENGTH TO CARRY ON/AND YOU CAST YOUR FEARS ASIDE/BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU CAN SURVIVE

"A lot of guys can kick a 45-yard field goal, but not a lot of guys can do it under the pressure of a game-winning situation. Pressure to me is coming home and answering to my wife why I missed that kick."

-- Giants kicker Jay Feely

"The way I look at a kicker is that we are the sniper. We are the guy that sits out there in the brush for three, four days waiting for his opportunity -- to kick the field goal or take out the general or whatever it takes."

-- Ravens kicker Matt Stover

"He may have five seconds to pull that trigger. That's exactly the way I look at my job."

-- Stover (ESPN.com)

THE REST

"I'm just so mad at myself. Two turnovers that lead to 14 points, you can't have that. That's my fault. That's a good football team, but we didn't make the plays when we needed to, and a lot of that falls on me. I'm real disappointed in the way I'm playing right now."

-- Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart after his team's loss to the Cowboys.

"They were supposed to be the best in the NFC, according to a lot of people. I think we are now."

-- Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher on his team's Sunday Night Football win over the Giants (New York Post)

"We played a lot of zone, thinking that Favre was going to throw the interceptions that he usually does. But we didn't come up with them."

-- Antoine Winfield, Vikings cornerback.

"I'm not a sugar-coater. I'm going to take the film and put it right in their faces. I'm not going to put it all on them -- we didn't teach them well enough -- but I'm going to tell them the truth."

-- Lions head coach Rod Marinelli (ESPN.com)

"In no way does Topps condone this type of behavior to be photographed for its trading cards and is deeply embarrassed that this photograph was not deleted in the early stages of the editing process."

-- Topps statement on running back Leon Washington's Topps rookie card (Deadspin.com)

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Posted by: Alex Carnevale on 16 Nov 2006

40 comments, Last at 20 Nov 2006, 1:44pm by Tom Kelso

Comments

1
by Jimbo (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 1:40pm

Leon Washington Rules!!!!!!!!

2
by Tom Kelso (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 2:10pm

With that outlook, I bet no one ever insists Matt Stover gives them his number.......

3
by Mike (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 2:29pm

What's the deal with Washington's card? I don't get it.

4
by Brian (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 2:47pm

Good question. Was that card actually produced?

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by Brooklyn Bengal (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 2:54pm

On his rookie card, Washington appears to be giving the middle finger to the camera. He has claimed, however, that he was making an upside-down "e" to symbolize East Whereverhesfrom.

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by Mwana Uta (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 2:56pm

The tale of the tape:

DeAngelo Hall, 5-10, 197lbs

Dominic Raiola, 6-1, 295lbs

Well, you gotta like his attitude, but he obviously didn't see what happened to Jose Cortez when he mouthed off to Larry Allen last year.

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by The Ninjalectual (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 2:57pm

Randy Moss is all emo.

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by Bobman (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 3:07pm

I love the "emphatic woo" from the NE/NYJ game, but what the hell is "mix a salad?"

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by Travis (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 3:14pm

"Mix in a salad", meaning, eat something less fattening/more healthy once in a while.

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by SJM (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 3:19pm

Re: 8

I think it's a reference to Mangini's weight. I don't know what he looks like, though. Is he fat?

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by Jerry Garcia (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 3:32pm

ol Mangini is fairly , um, "portly" ..

12
by princeton73 (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 3:44pm

it's the converse of "have another donut, Eric"

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by kevinNYC (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 3:50pm

So let me get this straight...

It's cool if Richard Seymour says his team got outplayed and outcoached (keep in mind they lost by 3 points and his coach owns 5 Super Bowl rings), but Jeremy Shockey is tarred and feathered for saying his team got outplayed and outcoached (keep in mind the Giants were losing 42-3 after 3 quarters)? Shockey was accused of pointing fingers and throwing his coach under the bus. What's Seymour doing? Granted, I don't think either was a big deal at all. Perhaps it was just a slow news day when Shockey said it.

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by Marko (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 4:15pm

kevinNYC, I can't comment on Seymour's quote, because I haven't seen it on TV - I've just read about it. But I think the reason why Shockey's quote was a big deal is obvious. First, he plays for the New York Giants. Everything is magnified for New York teams by the New York media. Second, he is Jeremy Shockey. His brash personality (which the New York media eats up) means that every comment he makes is magnified. Third, his comments (which appeared to be correct, but that's beside the point)were said in a defiant, angry manner ("Print that") and were memorialized on TV and played repeatedly. Fourth, his comments came on the heels of similar comments by Tiki Barber about being outcoached after last year's playoff loss to Carolina and added to the perception that Coughlin had lost control of his team.

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by MJK (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 4:21pm

I don't know. (1) Shockey is a noted loudmouth, and Seymour isn't, and (2) Shockey plays TE and Seymour plays DT. When a loudmouth TE says "we were outcoached" it usually translates to "I didn't get thrown the ball enough, and wasn't given enough of a chance to pad my personal stats at the expense of the team". When a usually quiet and respectful defensive lineman says a team was outcoached, I'm more inclined to listen to him. Besides, I watched the Jets game and the Patriots WERE outcoached--they never figured out how to get pressue on the QB on defense, and never figured out how to deal with the safety blitz on defense, despite the fact the Indy did the same thing against them the previous week.

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by young curmudgeon (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 4:22pm

Re 12, etc.: Cool, a reference to one of my all time favorite sports quotations, "Have another jelly doughnut, you fat pig," said by a hockey coach to a ref. Well, maybe "said" isn't the right verb.

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by Smeghead (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 4:25pm

I love Jonathan Ogden thriftily declining the journeyman vet's offer to peddle his number to the rook.

"It was a respect thing."

Yeah, right. We cheapass bastards can recognize one another.

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by RecoveringPackerFan (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 4:31pm

Just out of curiosity, do Matt Stover and Kellen Winslow talk?

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by Marko (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 4:33pm

16: That's one of my all-time favorite sports quotes, too. For those of you too young to remember, or those who want to relive the glory of the Jim Schoenfeld-Don Koharski incident, click on my name for a link to a video of it.

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by Adam, VA (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 4:57pm

Not to mention on Monday Belichick also said that they were out-coached.

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by Tom Kelso (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 5:09pm

I'm pretty sure "mix in a salad" is also from The Sopranos -- Tony said it to the even-heavier Bobby, who was then babysitting Uncle Junior.

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by Fnor (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 5:35pm

There is nothing like rich athletes who were pampered at every level threatening each other and talking like they're street gang thugs.

Almost as funny as rappers. Almost.

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by NF (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 5:43pm

Was the third heading really necessary?

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by theory (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 6:02pm

The Leon Washington card is going for over $200 on Ebay.

Also, Mangini is fat? Have these people never seen Charlie Weis or Romeo Crennel?

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by Fourth (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 6:17pm

23: Feeling sensitive about the letters "VD"? Or, do you feel we shouldn't be bashing celebs in a humor column on a pro football website?

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by el plaga (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 6:18pm

Just imagine if someone like vanderjagt said that stover quote. It would make it ten times funnier.

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by el plaga (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 6:24pm

has anybody heard these emmitt smith quotes after winning dancing with the stars?

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by Pacifist Viking (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 6:32pm

Real Quote:

“We played a lot of zone, thinking that Favre was going to throw the interceptions that he usually does. But we didn’t come up with them.�

– Antoine Winfield, Vikings cornerback.

Fake Quote from The Brushback:

“Brett Favre is an institution. He’s an icon,� said Winfield, who had one of his team’s four interceptions in the wild card game against the Packers. “When you think about all he’s accomplished it’s depressing to hear that he might retire. I sure will miss all those pretty, perfect spirals gunned right into my chest. Come back, Brett. You have so much more to give.�

http://www.thebrushback.com/Archives/nflcornerbacks_full.htm

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by Insancipitory (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 7:40pm

25, I think it has something to do with that not being a very persuasive disincentive in this particular case. Hell, even if she has Ron Mexico disease, all that means is more picnics and riding a bicycle built for two at sunset, right? Game on.

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by Denny's laptop nerd (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 10:38pm

re: 22

Many of them also behave like street gang thugs, believe you me.

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by Purds (not verified) :: Thu, 11/16/2006 - 11:14pm

Re #13-15:

Let's not compare that to Shockey. Let's get right to the heart of this: Manning "threw his O-line UNDER THE BUS MAN!" when he rightly said, after being asked about 4 different ways about the PIT blitz coming in untouched: "We had some protection problems." To a man, his O-line agreed, but Manning was roasted for telling the truth.

But, Seymour is a Patriot. And Patriots do no wrong. In fact, it might look like a bad thing, but actually it's part of BB's plan to disguise the strength of his team so that he can surprise them all with victory at a later date ... er, or something like that.

(Now, with sarcasm off, I can't see any real reason why Seymour's not getting pounded in NFL fandom for being a whinning loser last Sunday. That statement is what it is: an attack on the coaching.)

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Fri, 11/17/2006 - 1:12am

16,19. Great link. I remember that. Awesome. I also remember Jim Schoenfeld, defenseman for the Sabres. Man am I getting old.

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by Yaxley (not verified) :: Fri, 11/17/2006 - 1:34am

It is part of a player’s identity. Sometimes change is good, but you identify players by their numbers."

Really? I mean, I know the numbers of players on my favorite team, but aside from that... not so much. I know that Emmitt Smith won Dancing With the Stars. I know he is the NFL's leading rusher. I know that he played most of his career with the Cowboys and then tarnished his legacy by playing with the Cardinals. But his number? I had to look that up.

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by Devin McCullen (not verified) :: Fri, 11/17/2006 - 2:16am

You know, it's the Canadian accent that really sells it. BTW, I was unable to find the other classic Devils coach sanity break - Robbie Ftorek throwing the bench out onto the ice.

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by Mentos (not verified) :: Fri, 11/17/2006 - 2:50am

And I have no compunction of then watching Harrison get his career ended.

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by big_adventure (not verified) :: Fri, 11/17/2006 - 3:20am

Hasn't everyone noticed that Belichick follows the #1 fat person "weightloss" guideline? Surround yourself with people fatter than you are.

-S

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by Mike B (not verified) :: Fri, 11/17/2006 - 12:46pm

You guys aren't really with it on the "sense of humor" side of things. Stick to numbers.

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by mayhem (not verified) :: Sat, 11/18/2006 - 7:51am

At first I swear I read "toss a salad," with all of that line's Chris Rock prison visuals.

Don't know whether to be dissapointed or not that I was wrong.

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by mactbone (not verified) :: Sun, 11/19/2006 - 12:19pm

Does Vanderjagt think anyone really thought he was liquored up at the time? It was a put-down, and a good one too.
David Moore and Calvin Watkins, of The Dallas Morning News, reports Dallas Cowboys PK Mike Vanderjagt claims he was not drinking before the television interview four years ago when he criticized the leadership skills of Indianapolis Colts QB Peyton Manning and head coach Tony Dungy. Manning responded to Vanderjagt's comments and referred to him as the idiot kicker who got liquored up and ran his mouth. "I said something I shouldn't have said, it bothered him and that's what he came back with. That doesn't make it the truth. It's absolutely false. There is nothing in my past that would indicate to him that he should say something like that. It has taken on a life of its own because it came out of the mouth of Peyton Manning, but that doesn't make it true," said Vanderjagt.

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by Tom Kelso (not verified) :: Mon, 11/20/2006 - 1:44pm

Yeah, mac, all you have to do is read these boards to see that lots of people believe that about Vanderjagt, and for pretty much the reason that he spells out -- St. Peyton said it.

Too bad the pampered jerk doesn't have the class to apologize for what he said, unlike the guy who gets called "Vanderjerk" at least three times a week out here.

Strange priorities, man, strange priorities.