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07 Feb 2007

The Week in Quotes: February 7, 2007

compiled by Alex Carnevale

HE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO TALK MORE, BUT IT WAS TIME FOR HIS NAP

"Coach said: 'You need to take this call.' I told him 'I'm on the phone.' He's like: 'No, you need to take this call.' I hang up and it's the President. He talked about what a great win it was and playing in those tough conditions. He watched the entire game, said he was pulling for us, and looked forward to welcoming us to the White House."

-- Peyton Manning

"I've been out there the past few years and always real envious of seeing the Patriot guys and the Steeler guys come out a couple days late. I've always wanted to do that and now we will -- as Super Bowl winners."

-- Manning, on heading out to the Pro Bowl.

"I've seen some past quarterbacks who've won the Super Bowl kinda 'get the pass' as I call it. If they have a bad year, people go: 'Aw, he won a Super Bowl. Give him a pass.' But I don't want a pass. I want to be held accountable each and every year. Next year, my goal is to be a better quarterback and I feel I should be because of the experience I gained this year."

-- Manning (The Times)

"If people thought that [Manning's career was incomplete without a Super Bowl victory], that's just wrong. But now, he's done it. He's a Hall of Fame quarterback, one of the best that's ever played the game."

-- Tony Dungy

PRINCE WAS A GOD TOO, IN A WAY

"Personally, I'm gratified to see that change. I think their faith is a wonderful example to see and I think both men are sterling examples of what character coaches should be. That's what we should be promoting."

-- CBS anchor James Brown, on the invocation of God.

"Now there's an awful lot of shining glory, even more than last time up here. But we're giving it all to God again because that's what got us here ... sticking together and believing that we could, and I know God has looked after us on this journey and bonded us into such a tight family."

-- Colts owner Jim Irsay

"The Lord was preparing us to go into that playoff stretch."

-- Dungy

"That just means doing things the right way, and having players care about each other."

-- Dungy (Orlando Sentinel)

HE ALSO HAD KIND WORDS FOR SATAN, BUT THESE REPORTERS ARE SO BIASED

"One of the neat things I thought about the whole process was there were no negatives all week. Both teams. Very, very professional. Very gentlemanly, great players on both sides and no incidents."

-- Dungy

"Our emotions and our energy level were tremendous. I think we had a group that recognized that our time had come and we had to go take care of business. And we fought and we persevered and it didn't matter what happened. We never hit those emotional down points. Everybody just kept saying, 'Hey, this is our time. Let's play.'"

-- Dungy

"We had to shut down the running game of Kansas City, and we put together a great effort there. We went to Baltimore and we won with field goals and defense [15-6]. We beat New England by scoring 30 points in the second half. Our offense just exploded."

-- Dungy

"This may not be our most talented team of the five we've had, but it was certainly the one that felt the most love for each other, the most connection, and it showed in the way we played."

-- Dungy

LOSERS TURN WINNERS WHEN THEY GET THEIR SUPER BOWL SHARE

"It's not the way that we wanted to end. You don't ever want to be losers of the Super Bowl. But then again you can't let that totally take away from the season that we had. We did have a great season this year. We just weren't able to finish it off the way that we would have liked to."

--Bears tight end Desmond Clark

"We were in the Super Bowl. What more can you say? We didn't win it, but we were there. Obviously we had a great year."

-- running back Thomas Jones

I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN SOCIETY WHERE A CHURCH CAN'T MAKE MONEY OFF THE NFL

"Because of the situation, not everyone watched. A lot of people were a little disgusted it was on such a small TV. It was hard to see."

-- pastor Joe Drovich, on his church get together that was foiled by the NFL. Ten other TVs were shut off.

"I don't think they'll do it, because it's all about the money. They want more people in their living room so they can get the Nielsen ratings and charge more for advertising."

-- John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute (Pennlive.com)

WE'RE GOING TO GUESS THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY STORIES IN THIS VEIN

"Officially, I've probably only been listed as having three or four concussions in my career. But the real number is closer to 30, maybe even more. I've been dinged so many times I've lost count."

-- former Patriots linebacker Ted Johnson

"I want people to realize that you don't have to 'black out' to have a concussion. Most times, the symptoms of a concussion don't show up for hours, sometimes days. And this isn't just happening in the NFL. High school kids get concussions, and aren't properly monitored. Every day there is a new study linking concussions to depression, as well as early onset of Alzheimer's disease. It doesn't have to happen. It shouldn't happen. I don't want anyone to end up like me."

-- Ted Johnson

"If Ted felt so strongly that he didn't feel he was ready to practice with us, he should have told me."

-- Bill Belichick

THERE'S THAT WORD AGAIN

"I told him, 'You played God with my health. You knew I shouldn't have been cleared to play, and you gave me that blue jersey anyway.' Bill said, 'I had to see if you could play.' That's when I lost it. I told him, 'After all these years, you had to see if I could play?'"

-- Ted Johnson

"What they did to Ted was just wrong."

-- Roman Phifer

"I'm not saying what the team did is right. But if Ted thought his health was in danger, he never should have put on that blue jersey. You have to be your own advocate."

-- unidentified Patriots player

"Bill finally admitted, 'Hey, Ted, I [expletive]. I made a mistake.' "

-- Johnson

"It's not just the New England Patriots that need to change how they do things. It's the entire culture of the NFL."

-- Johnson (Boston Globe)

UNFORTUNATELY, TED WAS UNABLE TO REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION

"I'm sure in part of that conversation I apologized for things I said or did, as he did for his actions and his emotions following his decision to leave the team. If I made a mistake or hurt Ted in any way, I don't feel good about that. I felt as though we left that meeting saying, 'We've both made mistakes. Let's move forward and get on a higher level.' And that's what we did."

-- Belichick

"In fact, I remember seeing Ted in the weight room a few weeks later and him saying, 'I'm glad we had that talk. I feel a lot better about how things are.' "

-- Belichick

"The one touchdown the Jets scored was my fault. I adjusted incorrectly. I was supposed to be the play caller, the middle linebacker, and half the time I didn't know what the hell was going on. On the very first play of the game, the tight end got open for a big gain because I vacated the spot in the zone where I was supposed to be. Our safety, Lawyer Milloy, was waving his arms at me, trying to direct me, but I was so confused I didn't know where to go."

-- Johnson

"I remember one game when I was in the completely wrong coverage. I'm yelling to Mike Vrabel to go outside, and he's looking at me like I'm crazy. I was telling him the exact opposite of what he should have been doing."

-- Johnson

"Looking back, it was stupid not to tell anyone. But I didn't know then that every time you have a concussion, you are four to six times more susceptible the next time. I had no idea the damage I was causing myself."

-- Johnson

FOOTBALL RUINED MY LIFE. NOW WHO WANTS TO PLAY SOME FOOTBALL?

"After [Junior] Seau went down I must have gotten 10 messages from my friends saying, 'You're going to get a call, you're going to get a call.' And I never did... But say he [Belichick] did call, I could go out there right now and do goal-line, short-yardage stuff."

-- Johnson, as quoted by Michael Felger in the Boston Herald, December 20, 2006

"Johnson, who shed about 10-15 pounds from his playing days, said the post-concussion syndrome that led him to retire two years ago never prevented him from playing. He just made a choice."

-- Felger, same article

"Robert [Kraft] has always cared for him. But Ted Johnson is a very sick young man. We've been aware of the emotional issues he's had for years. You can't blame all of his behavior on concussions."

-- team official

ANOTHER FEEL GOOD SUPER BOWL STORY

"We will have World Wars IV and V before we have resolution on the pension issue. You can't win that argument... If we go out and do the things that we are capable of doing for these players, the league and the association will have to come along, because otherwise they will really look stupid."

-- Bob Schmidt, Willie Wood's former University of Southern California teammate and long-time attorney.

"I just pray that the other people have an impact on the league, or the pension fund, or the players association, but these are guys who need help right now, today. Virtually everyone we've asked has donated something."

-- Packers OL Jerry Kramer. Kramer's leading the fight to raise money for destitute former NFL players.

"You have to be in a coma before you get anything."

-- OL Conrad Dobler

"It's time to quit the bitching and put together an organization to get help where the players need help. By God, if nobody is going to take care of us, we will do it ourselves."

-- Dobler

"It's an absolute disgrace that the former players, who were [cheated] all along, have to give up the things that they earned. If the industry was suffering, then guys could say, "Hey, we understand it.' But it's not. It's booming. We're forgotten, but we're not gone."

-- former G Joe DeLamielleure, who has been receiving a $992-per-month pension, which would have been $2,200 if he could have waited until age 55.

"It's not about that, it's about the ancillary benefits the modern player has. We are very happy for the active player. They have finally gotten what they sorely deserve. We would just like everybody to understand that the pioneers who made this game great have been left out in the cold for a long, long time."

-- former Baltimore Colt Bruce Laird (Buffalo News)

THE REST

"I think I am getting out at the right time because I am not able to enjoy playing football as much as I used to," he said during a conference call from his home in Salt Lake City. "I think I could play two or three more years. I don't feel that my abilities on Sundays have waned at all, but I do feel that every year I play beyond this point would limit my ability to play in the backyard with my kids."

-- former Steelers center Jeff Hartings

"The guy's never put his hand in the dirt."

-- Bears DT Tommie Harris, on NFL draft expert Mel Kiper Jr. (WFAN.com)

"I can definitely, positively, and categorically say that the Cleveland Browns are NOT up for sale. There is no letter that I know of stating that fact. I adore this team. I am working feverishly to make this a better team, and you can quote me."

-- Browns owner Randy Lerner (WKYC.com)

"You really shouldn't be able to fail a test like that and play in this league, to begin with. To make the Pro Bowl and all the other awards, I think you're walking a fine line of sending the wrong message."

-- Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor, on Shawne Merriman.

"I'm very excited. Just the fact that [Cowboys owner/general manager] Jerry Jones was willing to wait this long to talk to me is exciting."

--Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera (DFW.com)

"The combine is more of the 'president's physical fitness team,' who can run and jump, run and stretch. The combine is really not fair to those kids because you are talking about kids who you bring in the day before and you keep them up all night with physicals and you want to interview them, then you ask them to get up early in the morning and run a 40-yard sprint."

-- Herman Edwards (KCChiefs.com)

"If you knew Tamba, he probably worked too hard to prepare himself for his workout and then ended up not working out well because that's what kind of kid he is. If you know that going in, you have a better understanding of why he didn't do some things as well as you would have liked him to do. Maybe, in retrospect, that kind of helped us because some of the teams ahead of use questioned him. I sure am happy that they didn't pick him and that we got him."

-- Herm on Tambi Hali

Send your favorites to quotes at footballoutsiders dot com -- TWIQ will continue biweekly or monthly over the off-season.

Posted by: Alex Carnevale on 07 Feb 2007

36 comments, Last at 12 Feb 2007, 12:05am by emcee fleshy (atl/sd)

Comments

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by Podge (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 1:52pm

Does anyone else read this thinking "come on, come on, where's Herm?" Finally sweet relief at the end.

2
by James, London (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 2:12pm

Herm Returns!

3
by Mike J (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 2:36pm

Herman Edwards, Minor God.

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by White Rose Duelist (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 2:41pm

Allow me to reiterate: PFP 2007 needs a "Best of Herm" quotes section, whether it's part of a whole Year in Quotes chapter or just part of the Chiefs entry.

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by MRH (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 2:55pm

What I thought he said:

“It’s time to quit the biting and put together an organization to get help where the players need help."

– OL Conrad Dobler

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by Randy S. (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 2:57pm

3 - He's definately the God of TWIQ.

I liked the World Wars IV and V quote from Bob Schmidt. Did I somehow miss World War III?

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by Bobman (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 3:11pm

MRH, I see we have the same memories of Conrad Dobler.

How the hell can you effectively bite somebody with a facemask on, anyway? I guess if their arm us up under your mask they're asking for it, right? Mmmm, finger sandwiches....

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by JJcruiser (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 4:07pm

"WE’RE GOING TO GUESS THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY STORIES IN THIS VEIN"

I think you could replace the word "stories" with "lawsuits." That's what Ted Johnson's comments come off like, set up for a lawsuit.

But I didn't find Belichick's comment that he had to see if Ted could play particularly damning. Doesn't he? Shouldn't he find out if the guy can go the following week? Isn't it better to do this in practice than in a game? And osn't this the same linebacker that quit the team because he wasn't active for a game and then had to be talked back into returning; and this year said he wanted to return (as the comments above make clear)?

I'm very sorry he's messed up and hope the NFL takes care of him and guys like him, but laying all this on Belichick and the Patriots is bull$&!t.

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by W Shedd (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 4:34pm

Unfortunately, even Ted Johnson's facts are questionable, as according to Nick Cafardo's Notebook on the Boston Herald for the dates in question - at the time of the red jersey/blue jersey practice incident, Ted was wearing a RED jersey when he tackled J.R. Redmond and aggravated his concussion. The article and Cafardo quote was cited on BSMW last week.

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by vijay (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 4:36pm

Thank you Herm for that eloquent comment about Tamba Hali. I enjoyed your extremely straight-line, straight forward logic!

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by Israel (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 5:04pm

I’ve been dinged so many times I’ve lost count.

Does this mean

a) hit so many times, that now I am confused how many

b) hit so many times, I can no longer count that high

or what exactly?

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by Basilicus (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 6:12pm

#6:

He didn't want to comment on current events.

By the way, these two teams were very well behaved, but I don't get why that's supposedly separating them from other recent Super Bowl teams. Baltimore Ravens excluded, I remember seeing far fewer law-breaking headlines from the Patriots, Steelers, Seahawks, Eagles, Panthers, Giants, Bucs, Raiders, and Rams combined than I have for the Colts and Bears the last couple of years.

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by Mr. Beefy (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 6:18pm

I like how Gene Upshaw doesn't care about the past players and gets $2.3M a year. Is there a possible correlation? Need stats to figure that one out. :).

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by Richie (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 7:16pm

Why does God hate the Dolphins?

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by NF (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 7:34pm

Apparently LT and Belichick have met each other half-way at the Pro Bowl, with Belichick saying that Ellis Hobbs was not sportsman-like in dancing on the Chargers logo, and LT saying that he over-reacted and that Belichick can only do so much to improve the quality of his players' sportsmanship. Elsewhere in Hawaii, Merriman and Jason Taylor are probably happy that their careers will not overlap for much longer.

Speaking of careers, anyone know what's up with Ricky Williams?

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by Boots Day (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 8:00pm

“Bill finally admitted, ‘Hey, Ted, I [expletive]. I made a mistake.’ “

I can't figure out what this expletive is supposed to be, unless there's an "up" missing from this quote.

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by Fargo (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 8:24pm

HE ALSO HAD KIND WORDS FOR SATAN, BUT THESE REPORTERS ARE SO BIASED

Absolute genius. Keep doing what you're doing, man.

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by Sergio (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 8:32pm

re: NF

He's slotted to return to the Dolphins in 2007.

I'll believe it when I see him in the week 1 lineup.

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by Phil (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 8:51pm

Don't know where else to put this, but....

FSNE just had BB mic'd up live during Pro Bowl practice joking around w/manning and other AFC guys.....good stuff

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by underthebus (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 9:38pm

What's with the dig at Favre? It's obvious Peyton's talking about him, right?

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by Harris (not verified) :: Wed, 02/07/2007 - 11:28pm

Troy Vincent on NFL pensions:

“On the opposite sideline, I’m getting up and going back to the huddle, and I have a coach that’s a retired player, ‘Hey, Troy, when you going to increase the benefits?’ � said Vincent, a defensive back with the Washington Redskins. “At practice, you’re at the airport, everywhere. Every conversation with the retired player is strictly about economics. At some point you just go, I’ve had enough, I don’t walk to talk about it anymore.

“We are really making every effort to bridge the gap. Let’s develop a relationship first. You’re a Hall of Famer, tell me what I can do to improve my game, not just belittle me about what we’re not doing as an association.�

To think, I used to respect the man.

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by Basilicus (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 2:30am

#20:

The only possible quote I can see being a dig at Favre is the "give the QB a pass" quote. I don't think it's a dig at Favre at all, or Peyton hasn't done his research. Favre in the year he won the Super Bowl.

325 of 543 for 3,899 yards, 39 TDs, 13 Ints.

Don't think Favre needed to be given a pass for that. Think you're reading too much into it there. Or I'm not seeing the comment you're refering to.

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by MMM (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 4:43am

It wasn't in reference to Favre's performance the year he won the Superbowl. It's in reference to reactions to the less than stellar years he's had since.

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by lobolafcadio (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 5:16am

"UNFORTUNATELY, TED WAS UNABLE TO REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION"
Cheap shot there...

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by Alex (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 11:05am

"What’s with the dig at Favre? It’s obvious Peyton’s talking about him, right?"

Well, I can't imagine it's about anyone else, seeing as the only other active QBs it could refer to are:

-Kurt Warner
-Trent Dilfer
-Tom Brady
-Brad Johnson
-Ben Roethlisberger

I think it's safe to say that only Ben Roethlisberger got anything like a pass, and only because he got hit by a car, had his appendix removed, and suffered a concussion or two. All the others either continued to play well (Brady, Warner-for a couple years anyway), or were subjects of significant criticism (Johnson, Dilfer, Post-2001 Warner). Maybe I don't have a good perspective on what the general attitude was with regards to Johnson and Warner after their Super Bowl years, but I don't get the impression that too many people were giving them much undeserved credit. And the Ravens let Dilfer go after 2000, so he definitely didn't get a pass. Apparently, they figured that since Dilfer was just a game manager, they could put any idiot under center and win a Super Bowl. I wonder how that worked out?

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by M (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 11:39am

Re: "Dig at Favre" - The year after the Packers won the Super Bowl, Favre had another good year. Although he may not have deserved being "Co-MVP" with Barry Sanders, he did still have stats comparable to 1996. He also had the highest yards/completion ratio of his career.

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by Pat (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 12:19pm

#21: Man, that's horrible. I'm glad Philly didn't bring him back now. "Tell me what I can do to improve my game"? Virtually all the concepts these guys use came from those guys. I think it's fair to say they've done enough to help.

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by StrangeDavid (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 2:40pm

#16-- I actually wondered, albeit very briefly, if I had missed a story about Belichick ...um... "Davenporting" Johnson's locker or something, and then regretting it...

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by doktarr (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 3:20pm

I don't think Manning was directing the "pass" comment at anyone in particular, but 2002 Brady (just above average and the team missed the playoffs) is a possible example of "the pass". The reality is that he was better in 2002 than 2001, but given the "team wins = QB good" media groupthink, some criticism could have been expected.

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by DD (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 4:41pm

Why are people assuming Manning was referring to an active QB with the "pass" comment? I'm sure he's followed the NFL for a bit longer than that.

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by Mikey (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 5:08pm

Damn, you guys are pretty hard on Vincent. The guy is an active player. If you want to knock somebody knock Upshaw or one of the other people whose full-time job is working for the NFLPA.

The huge, huge majority of active players are doing nothing to help former players. Vincent is doing something. Cut him a little slack.

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by B (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 5:22pm

"Plus: What does the President of the United States have against the Chicago Bears?"

Well, like Colbert, he must view Bears as godless killing machines, and the #1 threat to America

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by Don M (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 9:07pm

Chicago Media!:
I'm not exposed directly to the Chicago sports media (Bungles fan, 1/2 way 'tween Indy and Cincy) other than the odd exposure to AM talk radio when I'm driving at night, but what's the sports talk media gestalt on the Bears season? The awful thing to me about this season is that from what I've seen fans/local media of both teams would view the season as a failure if their teams did not win the superbowl. In the case of both teams this is unfair, but particularly in the case of the Bears. From my limited exposure to professional sports (avid fan for 26 years minimum) it seems that teams that actually win a championship almost always have to make some kind of serious run at it beforehand. The Colts run has been at least two years long (Be honest the Pats were just better than the Colts, no shame in that, the Pittsburgh thing was a bit of an upset, but they were also in year two of their "run") the Bears were in the first serious year of their "run" I have no idea if my "run" theory has any validity but I plan on doing some research on those lines after writing this.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Thu, 02/08/2007 - 9:40pm

Re: #31

Really? Exactly what is Vincent doing? He's not just an active player, he's union president. If anyone has a responsiblity to take the lead on this issue, it's him. But he actually seems annoyed at the old-timers. That's downright shameful.

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by Flux (not verified) :: Sun, 02/11/2007 - 6:44pm

I took Vincent's comment to mean he was tired of guys bitching at him about their pensions at inopportune moments, such as while he's actually playing a game. I.E., "Coach, coach me; don't take up my work time with your financial complaints."

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by emcee fleshy (atl/sd) (not verified) :: Mon, 02/12/2007 - 12:05am

Got to find out what denomination Tony Dungy is. Is he Lutheran? If so, I'll just mail a copy of the 95 theses to Arthur Blank and we'll be set for the XLII.

Also, this totally explains Schottenheimer. He must be sacrificing the wrong size chicken (broilers just make God angry), and probably drawing the pentagram at least 5deg in the wrong direction.