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03 Jan 2008

The Week in Quotes: January 3, 2008

compiled by Ben Riley

AH, DISTINCTLY I REMEMBER IT WAS IN THE BLEAK DECEMBER / AND EACH SEPARATE DYING EMBER WROUGHT ITS GHOST UPON THE FLOOR

"I just changed my mind. I can't explain to you how tough a decision it is. It's the toughest decision I've ever had to make."

-- Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti, describing his personal struggles before firing former Ravens head coach Brian Billick on Monday

"There were indications, but no promises."

-- Bisciotti, when asked if he had told Billick he was going to return as head coach in 2008

"I believed that it was time for a change. I believe we have the nucleus of a team that can get back to the Super Bowl. We felt that in the next five years that we had a better chance with a new coach than leaving Brian in that position."

-- Bisciotti

"He had a hard decision, and he did what he believes is best for the Ravens. We are and will remain friends ... It has been a great ride with the Ravens and the fans here."

-- Brian Billick, handling the news with dignity

"We need a change. We need to move forward and try to take a different direction."

-- Ravens left tackle Jonathan Ogden, reacting with some enthusiasm to the shake-up

"I'm not either agreeing or disagreeing with the decision, but I am saying that change is sometimes necessary."

-- Ravens kicker Matt Stover

"I hope that over time that Baltimore views me as a quality of an owner as Brian Billick was head football coach. So, I've got some catching up to do to the man I just asked to step down today. The jury is out on me. Brian's already got his Super Bowl. I'll try to make you all proud."

-- Bisciotti (Baltimore Sun)

YOU GOTTA RUN, RUN, RUN, RUN, RUN / TAKE A DRAG OR TWO

"I have no anger. I'm not upset about anything. I went as far as I could there, and now it's time for me to move on."

-- Former Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz, who was fired by head coach Rod Marinelli on Wednesday. Incidentally, Matt Millen still has his job.

"Sure. More or less."

-- Martz, when asked whether his firing was because of "philosophical differences" with Marinelli

"I believe in Rod. I believe he's a great coach and a great man. I think people need to understand that, and I think he's done a great job there. He'll be successful. He will. He'll do well there. It's just time that I moved on, really, more than anything else."

-- Martz

"I think when you're playing from a lead or the game's in the balance, I think you have a tendency to mix things in pretty good. But things kind of got out of hand occasionally, and you have to do what you can to stay in the game. That happened on a couple of occasions. But that really doesn't matter."

-- Martz, when asked if his firing might be related to Martz's near fetishization of the passing game (Detroit Free Press)

"That would be a hard thing for me to get over, not having him."

-- Lions quarterback Jon Kitna, describing his relationship with Jesus Martz last week.

"He's somebody that we would love to have here, but I understand that he's got to try to pursue his dreams, too."

-- Kitna (Detroit Free Press)

"Um, we're just not executing, and at the same time, sometimes some of the calls aren't right at the time."

-- Lions wide receiver Roy Williams, describing (in late November) why the Lions were imploding (Detroit Free Press)

YET ANOTHER TIGER MASSACRE

"I'm very pleased with what our coaches have done this year. They've gone through some trying times with new players and injuries. It's very difficult each and every week to look at a different group of guys, moving guys from position to position. I thought they handled that very well."

-- Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis, on Monday, December 31, 2007

"After meeting with all our coaches, I determined that it was necessary to make these changes. Both Chuck and Ricky worked extremely hard this past year, and I wish them and their families the best as they move on in their careers."

-- Lewis on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, announcing that he was firing Bengals defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan and linebackers coach Ricky Hunley (Cincinnati Enquirer)

TRENCH WARFARE

"I think he was above average, but all he did was try and hold me down -- just nonsense, that stuff."

-- Titans defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, describing what it's like to play across from Chargers offensive lineman Kris Dielman

"I mean, he didn't really block me one-on-one. The only thing he did -- and it made me mad -- was try and hold me down, thinking he did something when he didn't."

-- Haynesworth

"We voted him as an alternate. Maybe if he cut out all that dumb stuff..."

-- Haynesworth, using the royal "we" to describe his Pro Bowl vote for Dielman (Dielman is going as a starter) and apparently forgetting his own history of "dumb stuff"

"I don't care if that's what he wants to say."

-- Kris Dielman (San Diego Union-Tribune)

MAKE ONE CUT AND GO, REGGIE

"One thing I did learn from '07 was to try to keep it as private as possible so I'm trying to hold that close to my heart but I'm here with everybody that I love."

-- Kim Kardashian, "star" of Keeping Up With the Kardashians, when asked (while partying in South Beach) if she and Saints running back Reggie Bush were engaged (OK! Magazine)

CALL IT, FRIEND-O

"What was the point?!''

-- Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, offering a brief review of No Country for Old Men (Sports Illustrated)

THE WEEK IN HERM

"We couldn't make plays at times and that's the difference in the season."

-- Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards, explaining why the Chiefs ended 4-12

"Am I glad it's over? Yes, I'm glad it's over."

-- Herm (KCChiefs.com)

"Herm did what he had to do."

-- Former Chiefs offensive coordinator Mike Solari, who was fired by Herm on Tuesday. Herm also fired coaches John Matsko (offensive line), Charlie Joiner (wide receivers) and James Saxon (running backs).

THE REST

"I don't really think that me breaking Jerry Rice's record was special. I think shutting you guys up was really what made it special."

-- Patriots wide receiver Randy Moss, describing his feelings to the press after breaking Jerry Rice's single-season touchdown record (Boston Globe)

"The Famous Michael Vick House."

-- Description in the real estate listing for Vick's former home and gambling center in Surry, Virginia. It's available for a cool $1.1 million. (Washington Post)

"Sorry it's been such a bad year ... At times I felt sick to my stomach and I didn't have the flu."

-- Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer, apologizing for his team's disappointing season. (Bengals.com)

"I don't know what people are waiting for. I guess people are taking their sweet time."

-- Buccaneers tight end Alex Smith, after learning that tickets for the Buccaneers home playoff game were still available, 11 days after going on sale (Pewter Report)

"All good things must come to an end, and my life has been blessed because I've been able to be a pro football player.''

-- Retiring 49ers defensive lineman Bryant Young (Sports Illustrated)

"It's almost like the son I never had. Except that I do have a son."

-- Buffalo Bills superfan Ken Johnson, describing his bowling ball on Inside the NFL while his (human) son looked on.

Make it your New Year's resolution to send a quote to quotes-at-footballoutsiders.com.

Posted by: Ben Riley on 03 Jan 2008

47 comments, Last at 05 Jan 2008, 12:39am by Nick B

Comments

1
by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 4:26pm

Good God, that last one is hilarious.

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by JAT (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 4:28pm

Good Lord, the one from Bills fan may just be quote of the year.

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by zip (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 4:30pm

“I don’t really think that me breaking Jerry Rice’s record was special. I think shutting you guys up was really what made it special.”

I'm not a Pats fan by any means, but I can appreciate that one.

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by Independent George (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 4:40pm

#3 - I don't get it; what was Moss complaining about? Cameragate coverage? Or is this just some variation of the 'disrespect' card?

I had been rooting for the Pats to go undefeated largely because I'm sick of the crap from the '72 Dolphins; Randy Moss' attitude at the press conference makes me think wonder if these guys are going to be even worse.

5
by COINFLIP (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 4:43pm

Where's Kellen Winslow?
After dropping Brady Quinn's sure TD, he's quoted as saying, "I'm human. Sometimes."

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by The Original Sam (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 4:44pm

#4:

I think Moss was complaining about the large contingent of media and front-office personnel who had labeled him "done" for his career.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 4:44pm

That Bills fan isn't Homer Simpson is he? If not, he should be.

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by Athelas (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 4:45pm

I think Randy Moss was responding to 2 reporters in particular--Ron Borges, then of the Boston Globe, who wrote an article with quotes from ex-Raiders coaches who said he was all washed up
and--Michael Felger, Boston Herald, who said he wasn't trying during training camp.

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by Chris Heinonen (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 4:49pm

Here's the rest of the Randy Moss quote, where it doesn't sound like he's disrespecting Jerry Rice as much as telling the reporters to shove it:

"Shutting you guys up is what makes it special. All the negativity and all the critics. It's really a good feeling to come in and have a good season like this, to have confidence in myself that I can still get it done. My mindset was to come out here and have a hell of a season.''

That Bills fan has to win for quote-of-the-year, though.

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by olly olly oxen free (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 4:55pm

I guess if I were a Bills fan I'd be pretty warapped up in my bowling ball too . . .

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by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 4:58pm

Re: 5

Wow, that is a good one. Nice find.

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by Tom (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 5:08pm

The trench warfare section should have been titled "Dielman to wear more protective facemask to next Titans game". At least I would be afraid of FACESTOMPER being mad at me.

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by Nicky P (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 5:10pm

4 - Moss -

Moss was referring to all the talk about him prior to the season - that he was washed up and slow.

Here is the full quote:

“I don’t really think that me breaking Jerry Rice’s record was special. I think shutting you guys up was really what made it special. All the negativity and all my critics, I think this really is a good feeling to be able to come in and have a good season like this, to have confidence in myself that I can still get it done. And still I really wasn’t coming into the season not thinking that I was going to have a good season. My mindset was to come out here and have a helluva of a season. Now what the numbers were, I really didn’t know. I just wanted to come up here and play some good football this year, knowing that it was my 10th year in the league. Good things happened and you see what happened.”

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by Nicky P (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 5:12pm

Just realized the full quote was already up there.

My bad.

15
by young curmudgeon (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 5:16pm

that last quotation from the Baltimore owner demonstrates admirable humanity and class.

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by amarquis (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 5:30pm

15: That's what struck me here. That was an awfully classy way to fire a guy.

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by mawbrew (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 5:38pm

Not to make this a big deal or anything, but if the folks at FO are so anxious to avoid non-football discussion here, why do they post something that takes a gratuitous shot at Kitna's faith?

On an unrelated topic, the comment about a protective facemask reminded me of Wilfork's play against the Giants. Has there been any punishment announced for that yet?

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by Diane (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 5:45pm

Speaking of Homer Simpson, the Bills fan quote reminds me of this Homer classic: "Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel."

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by Flounder (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 5:45pm

Re: 17 Because it's a pretty funny running gag?

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by gmc (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 5:46pm

Because Kitna thinks faith is football related, I think. And because Kitna thinks Martz is Jesus. Proof if more were needed that Kitna's been hit onthe head too many times!

Of course, Martz thought that Kitna was a good quarterback for his system. So it goes both ways. Not that Kitna does.

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by Herm? (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 5:51pm

Billick and Biscioti's overly kind words for each other are a pretty good indication that they probably kissed afterwards...sometimes the best part of breaking up is the afterparty.
Write that down.

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by Costa (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 6:18pm

That Bills fan quote sounds like something you'd hear in one of those Kenny Mayne comedy vignettes on the ESPN pregame show.

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by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 7:05pm

Re: 21

I just lol'd.

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by Pro Bowl? Pro Bowl?!? (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 7:24pm

And now I will have that VU song stuck in my head for the rest of the day.

25
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 7:31pm

So, is the FO IT staff hurrying to upgrade the servers before posting a "Belichick wins CotY" XP link? :)

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by Spoilt Victorian Child (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 7:47pm

I bet Peyton Manning got No Country for Old Men.

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by Jimmy in Oz (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 8:43pm

Adrian Peterson "It's a great honor to join a list with names like those. They are guys that I looked up to growing up. It's a goal that I set before the year started, to win rookie of the year, so it feels great to accomplish that."

Note: Peterson was referring to Jim Brown, Emmitt Smith, Eric Dickerson and Billy Sims.

There is no mention in the article about how he feels joining a list with names like Don Woods, Troy Stradford, John Stephens, Leonard Russell and Anthony Thomas.

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by Drew (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 8:45pm

Bret Favre did't.

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by Drew (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 8:50pm

Re: 28,

I was saying that Bret Favre didn't get "No Country for Old Men."

One of the things I like about him is that he doesn't spout bitterness at disrespect like Moss. Lots of media types were saying last year that this is no league for old men. After he proved them wrong, he didn't go on and on about shutting up all the negativity.

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by SGT Ben (not verified) :: Thu, 01/03/2008 - 9:54pm

#29 You're not Drew Madden, Johns son are you? JP

#21, that was freaking hilarious...keep it up Herm!

Kellen Winslow should hold a press conference for the FO staff describing how they have disrespected him for missing that quote "I'm Human, Sometimes". It was clearly his last chance to to get a shot at TWIQ for the season as his offseason is likely filled with driving the latest monster truck, Bike-Wreck.

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by Peter (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:18am

#7:
Homer's a Dolphins fan.

And the anti-spam word is doofus.

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by Duck in MA (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:50am

Homer's a Dallas Cowboys fan. Well, at least he wants to own the Dallas Cowboys. But everyone laughs at him for that. He now owns the Denver Broncos, but that just isn't the same.

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by Rhys (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 4:41am

I'm from Boston, and I didn't really get No Country For Old Men. Now I guess I have something in common with Tom Brady and Bill Simmons. Maybe something about the Boston atmosphere just conflicts violently with the theme, or something. Except that Simmons now lives in LA and Brady is originally from San Fran.

Actually, I was in San Francisco for a time as a child. Is there anyone else who has lived for extended periods of time in both Cali/New England and also hates NCFOM?

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by socctty (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 5:05am

No Country For Old Men was a great movie. I haven't read what Bill Simmons had to say about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if what he had to say about it came out only after Tom Brady uttered that quote.

The "point" of the movie was made evident in a few different places (I'll try to avoid spoilers):
- HOW the directors let you know what happened to Llewelyn
- Tommy Lee Jones outside of the hotel vs. what he said in the opening monologue
- Tommy Lee Jones's conversation with the wheelchair guy (his brother in law I think?)
- The final monologue (dream recollection)

The film was great. But I'm from Houston, TX and I live in Southeast New Mexico now, so maybe that's why I "get" it, haha

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by Theo, Holland (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 9:08am

why do they post something that takes a gratuitous shot at Kitna’s faith?
.
Because athletes who think God is interested in what they do on a (football) field are complete self indulged morons. Pointing at the sky and stuff...
They deserve to be made fun of all the time.

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by Mack (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 10:53am

Post 26 wins the thread.

I'm a New Englander and I loved NCFOM. Simmons has legendarily bad taste in movies, so him not getting it is absolutely in character. Brady missing the point is very troublesome, however. I might have to light myself on fire. Or throw up in my mouth.

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by B (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 11:41am

31: Homer's a Cowboys fan. See "You Only Move Twice" Of course, he wants to be John Elway, see "Cape Feare"

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by Costa (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 11:55am

37:
Of course, he always has a soft spot for whichever team wins the Super Bowl every year, since it reunites him with his daughter.

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by A Priceless Pep Talk from Peyton Manning (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:05pm

Didn't get No Country For Old Men? Do you find films set in the contemporary American Southwest that explore themes of violence a little mind-boggling? Don't sweat it. Just because you live in bubble world New England and have never actually seen America, you're probably not gonna get it. You see, Massachusetts has probably made you soft...you probably even root for some team with a cover boy QB thats not even the defending world champs. So you are not gonna get No Country For Old Men, and probably never will. Next time you are in the video store, pick up a copy of The Notebook, pop some popcorn, and enjoy. Just don't tell anybody.

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by Scott (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:09pm

Re: 29

Not defending Moss, per se, but there is a difference between "He's too old" and "He's a cancer." "He had a great run but he should hang it up" is not the same as "He's a lazy jerk" and whatever other hyperbolic insults were spewed by the likes of the Racist and the Homophobe on morning talk radio in Boston.

It is funny how Moss seems to be in a no-win situation. Say he did say "Yeah that record is great to have. I'm happy to break it and did everything I could to achieve that individual record." Then he's not a team guy. He's selfish. Now he says all those things putting the team before the record and Rice calls him classless and he's a bigger jerk than Favre.

It's a great example of how soundbites are, sometimes, like statistics. We use them to confirm our preconceptions, rather than enlighten our conceptions.

The Manning post was brilliant.

On Kitna, it's important to note that part of his faith includes humiliating an assistant coach ("in good fun") for a past transgression. Something has always grated on me about him. Early in the season he was lecturing the media about how wrong they were about the team. But it didn't come off as leadership. It came off as arrogant.

Finally, a little humor: This is from Detnews.com: What's the first thing you would do to improve the Lions this off-season?
Fire Matt Millen 64.20%
Fire Rod Marinell 1.42%
Fire Mike Martz 3.64%
Draft a wide receiver 1.55%
Draft a quarterback 2.80%
Get free agents 7.63%
Rework the defense 11.14%
Other 7.63%

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by Herm? (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 1:43pm

I haven't seen NCFOM, and I can't wait to see it, but when I heard the Brady quote, it reminded me of something else...to poke a bit of fun at myself.
I went to see Unforgiven and said the exact same thing. Clint Eastwood, a recovering everything with children, leaves his home, tries to get a reward by doing things the right way, fails. He starts drinking again, kills everyone while it rains, and the movie ends. "What was the point?" was my exact reaction.
Of course, that movie went on and won a handful of Academy Awards.

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by socctty (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 2:28pm

40 - "Draft a wide receiver"

Haha! I assume a Detroit fan operates that site; at least they have a sense of humor.

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by B (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 2:34pm

38: Only NFC teams. When the AFC team wins, his daughter doesn't love him.

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by Baltimark (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 2:36pm

That dude with the bowling ball was also drinking shots out of it. You can't do that with your son.

He also used it to open bags of potato chips.

He's a real-life Homer Simpson, but it looks more sad when he's not a cartoon.

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by Podge (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 4:39pm

#43

Its going to be a sad year in the Simpson household this year then isn't it?

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by Herm? (not verified) :: Fri, 01/04/2008 - 6:28pm

Seriously, how close is Detroit as a sports city to having great teams in 4 sports - yes, I like hockey.

If only they could DRAFT A WIDE RECEIVER, Detroit will be the new City of Champions! (FU, Brockton!)

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by Nick B (not verified) :: Sat, 01/05/2008 - 12:39am

#40-

You have a point about Moss, but if your team goes 16-0, anyone who bitches that a player was going for personal glory to the determent of the team, they'll have an uphill battle.