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26 Sep 2008

The Week In Quotes: September 26, 2008

compiled by Peter DeBaz and Mark Zajack

SEAHAWKS FINALLY REPLACE STEVE HUTCHINSON

"He was telling me, 'come this way, come this way,' I heard him and I followed. It was unbelievable; you never see a quarterback sell out like that ... to take out two guys. That sparked the whole offense today."

-Seahawks running back Julius Jones describing a run where he cutback, quarterback Matt Hasselbeck started waving at him to follow, and Hasselbeck threw a block that took out two Rams defenders.

"I told him he got a lot of street cred on that block."

-Seahawks backup quarterback Charlie Frye.

"I think everybody was happy except (coach Mike Holmgren). He kind of gave me this look, like, don't do that again."

-Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck ("Tacoma News Tribune)

"I can't tell if people are really congratulating me right now, or making fun of me. It was a little bit like bowling. You get one pin, the other one gets knocked down, and you act like you did that on purpose."

-Hasselbeck.

"When he thinks it's a great block, it's kind of a car crash."

-Seahawks head coach Mike Holmgren. (SI.com)

ON SECOND THOUGHT, DO NOT GO TO THE Bradie James B-B-Q THIS WEEKEND

"It's big. But it's like eating an elephant. You have to eat it one bite at a time."

-Cowboys linebacker Bradie James on the 3-0 start to the season. (ESPN.com)

WHOA, SLOW DOWN ROOKIE, I'M HAULING 350 LBS OVER HERE

"I never pay attention to who's in there. But every time the rookie comes in, I know we're jogging way down the field to greet him."

-Cowboys guard Leonard Davis on the difference between blocking for Marion Barber or Felix Jones. (ESPN.com)

IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND "WE'RE MEN, MAN...", YOU PROBABLY AREN'T INTERESTED IN OUR TARGETED ADVERTISING

"If you want me to be truthful with the situation, I don't know who it was, but they grabbed me in places they shouldn't have grabbed me after the play and that's what started the whole thing."

-Buccaneers right tackle Jeremy Trueblood on what precipitated an overtime melee, resulting in a critical 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on Bears cornerback Charles Tillman.

"I think those guys take a lot of pride in what they do, and we take a lot of pride in what we do, but one thing I don't stand for is someone grabbing you in your genitals."

-Trueblood

"I don't know who it was. But whoever was beneath [me] paid the price."

-Trueblood

"One of the dudes was doing something dirty to Wale on the ground after the play. They didn't get the first down, so we could have been going off the field. They were down there fighting and then everybody jumped in."

-Bears defensive tackle Tommie Harris on defending teammate Adewale Ogunleye at the bottom of the pile.

"Would you leave your teammate? Would you leave your partner out there in war if you see somebody jumping on them? No, it's the principle. We're men, man. Regardless of that, if I see my teammate down there getting stomped, two dudes jumping on Wale, one dude and another jumped in, he better not just walk off. If they walk off while I'm down there, we've got a problem. They better at least pull the dude off of me. Everybody knows that; you don't just leave your teammate."

-Harris

"Their line is dirty and we knew that coming in. I guess they thought they were going to come in here and just think we were going to accept that. Like Trueblood blindsided me when the play was over with. [Trueblood] is dirty, he wants you to know that. Since he's not that talented and not that good, he wants you to know that, 'I'm the dirtiest player.'"

-Harris. ("Chicago Sun Times")

YEE-HAW, LOOK MA, I JUST ROPED ME A PANTHER

"That's how they do it. When the cowboy gets done roping the calf, he throws his hands up."

-Vikings defensive end Jared Allen, describing his 'calf roping' sack celebration.

"He's from North Dakota or something, and that's what they do there."

-Vikings safety Darren Sharper describing Allen, who grew up in California and went to college at Idaho State. (Star Tribune)

BEING INCOGNITO IS THE WAY TO AVOID PENALTIES & FINES

"Next time I'll make sure I choke him out, so I can really deserve the fine."

-Seahawks linebacker Julian Peterson reacting to the $7,500 fine he drew from the league after last Sunday's "two-thumbs pointing at the back of his jersey celebration" of a sack of J.T. O'Sullivan.

"I just tried to make sure I didn't get anywhere around him [Bulger] and just celebrate with my teammates."

-Peterson

"He was ... after the play was over trying to twist people's ankles. There was no flag. If they don't go through this film and give him any fines, something's going to be wrong."

-Peterson comparing his actions to those of Rams offensive linemen Richie Incognito, who despite being Incognito, did not escape Peterson's attention on Sunday. (Seattle Times)

OMG. YOUR KICKER DOESN'T WEAR A THONG. HOW 2007

"Somebody even said something about me wearing 'granny panties.'"

-Rams kicker Josh Brown on the 'creative heckling' he received upon his return to Seattle.

"I don't know where that one came from, but whatever makes you laugh. I was laughing at half of them. It was good. A lot of the Seahawks guys were saying they'd never heard anybody get booed so loud. I was like, 'I don't know what to tell you guys. Keep working and you'll get booed, too.'"

-Brown. (SeattlePI.com)

A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY IN THE MIKE MARTZ PLAYBOOK

"I was a little shocked when they sent me in. Then I was more shocked when I found out it was going to be me getting the ball. Who? Me?"

-49ers return man Allen Rossum, who scored on a 1-yard run in the fourth quarter. ("Contra Costa Times<)

"We've got so much stuff in our offense now... It's going to be crazy all year."

-49ers running back Frank Gore on the Martz offense. (SI.com)

I'D ALSO BUILD FLYING CARS THAT RUN ON POOP, BUT THAT'S NOT UP TO ME EITHER

"I think the fans deserve better and if it were in my authority, which it's not, I'd make some significant changes."

-Lions vice chairman and Ford Motor Co. executive chairman Bill Ford, son of owner William Clay Ford, said he believes general manager Matt Millen should leave the team. (ESPN.com)

JON GRUDEN CALLS PLAYS MADDEN 09 STYLE

"Early in the third quarter, I came off the field after we had a drive stall and Jon said, 'We can't run the football. I need you to go out and win this game.' I said, fine, if you want me to throw it every play, I will."

-Tampa quarterback Brian Griese (SI.com)

THE JETS ARE NOT WHO THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE

"Whatever team that we thought we were before this game, we're not, obviously. This was a wakeup call."

-Jets linebacker David Bowens (New York Times)

THIS WEEK IN HERM

"Tyler deserves a chance and we'll never know unless we let the young guy play. It just happens he's the quarterback. It's okay if anyone else plays but if you say the quarterback, then it's go with Damon Huard again. Well, that's fine but you can always go with Damon Huard. But we want Tyler to play and we think he can give us an opportunity in what we're trying to do."

-Herman Edwards, elaborating on how QB decisions are made in Kansas City

"No one knows and we have to find out. We kind of know what Damon Huard is. Right now people say he may say he gives you the best chance to win. Maybe he does. We don't think that. We think whoever we put in there gives us the best chance to win and it happens to be Tyler this week."

-Edwards (KCChiefs.com)

MERRIL HOGE WANTS TO SAY HE TOLD YOU SO

"He's a baby. He's a soft baby."

-ESPN analyst Merril Hoge on a Pittsburgh radio station last week.

"They really wanted him to go to Oklahoma [University]. Well one of the reasons they stopped the recruiting process is because he was such a baby."

-Hoge

"In the playoffs... [the defense] turn to each other and go 'you know what, we now have a chance to win this game and be a better team.'"

-Hoge, piling it on.

"[Titans coach] Jeff Fisher fought like crazy [against the drafting of Vince Young]."

-Hoge

"He lives three miles from the stadium and has a limo drop him off and pick him up."

-Hoge, claiming he got this last piece of information from the coaches. (Radio Interview) via ("Pro Football Talk)

...BUT ONLY IN PITTSBURGH

"I know people think that I hate Vince Young ... I've never met Vince Young and I don't want him to fail. I've been critical of him, but that's my job. Everything he has gone through, I hope he's able to work his way through it."

-Hoge, later, to the ("Tennessean )

"Whatever he reported that I disclosed with him is incorrect."

-Fisher, denying the limo report explicitly.

QUICKLY. GET THOSE ADVERTISERS WARMED UP!

"If we decide to go with him, we just have to put it on the fact from what we've seen in practice and what we feel he's able to do ... There's no hard evidence that he will have more success."

-Cleveland coach Romeo Crennel, on the possibility of starting Brady Quinn. (ESPN)

BE AFRAID... BE VERY AFRAID

"We just scratched the surface of what we're trying to do ... We didn't go in there with 30 plays worth of what we're trying to do out of this package."

-Dolphins coach Tony Sparano, on the possibility of running more direct snap plays in the future.

"We didn't think it was going to work ... we were iffy about it, and then if it didn't break for four touchdowns. You can't question it anymore."

-Miami linebacker Channing Crowder

"Who knows. The Wildcat [package] might be dead."

-Sparano, with eerie music playing in the background (Palm Beach Post)

WHERE ELSE BUT OAKLAND. (OKAY, MAYBE CINCINNATI)

"Given that there are reports (that Kiffin earlier didn't deny) that Raiders officials have told him he's going to be fired, given that we all know a Raiders official distribued printed copies of an espn.com article critical of Kiffin, given that Kiffin came to today's news conference without a single item of Raiders garb ... How isolated does Kiffin feel in this organization?"

-Tim Kawakami, Raiders beat writer, rewriting the question he asked coach Lane Kiffin that triggered an explosive response from Raiders senior executive John Herrera on his (blog).

"You built a whole column on a lie! ... So did Lowell Cohn! So did ... Mike Silver."

-Herrera.

"I'm not embarrassing myself ... I'm embarrassed that you don't know how to write a column.... nothing was distributed in this room. Nothing. You are a liar"

-John Herrera, denying in front of cameras that an article critical of Lane Kiffin was distributed to the press by a Raiders official.

"I can say that I know that it was Herrera who handed it out."

-Kawakami, who had initially withheld the identity of the Raiders official who distributed the article.

LARRY JOHNSON IS THE ANTI-HERM

"I can't say I feel too good about (expletive)."

-Chiefs running back Larry Johnson

"All those yards don't mean nothing if you lose."

-Johnson.

"We'll see."

-Johnson, asked whether this season was proving more frustrating than he hoped.

"I don't know."

-Johnson, asked whether the Chiefs weren't as far along as he'd like.

" Nope."

-Johnson, on whether there was anything the team could take out of Sunday's loss.

"Nope. You won't paint me as the (expletive) bad guy in this thing."

-Johnson. (KansasCity.com).

CHAMP BAILEY KNOWS HIS TEAM HAS A 22.1% DEFENSIVE DVOA

"We've got to be the luckiest team right now."

-Denver cornerback Champ Bailey. (Denver Post).

BAD PUNS AHOY

"It is all about me getting my 'Freak-quent' flier miles, ... you just have to plug in the Freak and get back there often and get my miles up. Now I just have to get back there more and try and get the fans into it."

-Titans defensive end Jevon Kearse, on his new sack celebration in which he emulates an airplane.

"I like that, and I'd like a seat on that plane ... it's time to redeem some points, I guess."

-Albert Haynesworth, setting a terrible example of humor for our children. (The Tennessean).

Posted by: Mark Zajack on 26 Sep 2008

16 comments, Last at 28 Sep 2008, 8:50am by Anonymous

Comments

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by B :: Fri, 09/26/2008 - 3:43pm

Did Haynesworth say he wants to ride Kearse?

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by Tom Gower :: Fri, 09/26/2008 - 4:14pm

Death to italics!

EDIT: I fail.

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by Eddo :: Fri, 09/26/2008 - 4:22pm


Excessive unitalicizing.

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by andrew :: Fri, 09/26/2008 - 4:25pm

Just so long as Kearse isn't put on a holding pattern....

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by Tim R :: Fri, 09/26/2008 - 4:40pm

To be fair to Herm, I have no prblem with putting Thigpen in there. I mean sure Huard is clearly better but what dfference does that make. I mean if Thigpen plays the Chiefs are what 2-14 team with Huard there at best maybe 6-10. Who really cares. Everyone in KC clearly knows this is a rebuilding season so you might as well see what the young QB can do, ok he sucks incredibly, because you dont really lose anything because regardless of how he plays youre not going to the playoffs.

I also think the Chiefs should trade Gonzalez and LJ if they can get any decent draft picks.

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by tuluse :: Fri, 09/26/2008 - 5:16pm

The problem with this is that you create a terrible environment to develop players. How can you tell if Dwayne Bowe is any good, if the QB can't get the ball within 5 yards of him? Likewise, you can't tell if your QB is anygood if the receivers and line suck, or if your running back can play if the passing game can't get the safeties out of the box at least occasionally. Huard gives your receivers the best chance of developing, so he should play.

Personally, I also believe in the "create an winning environment" argument, so 6-10 sends better message to your players than 2-14.

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by The Ninjalectual :: Fri, 09/26/2008 - 7:58pm

Does Herm honestly think that Thigpen gives the Chiefs a better chance to win than Huard? Like, really? Because what a strange thing to think.

Maybe Herm really does wake up every day and think, "I wonder why we changed our colors from green to red. Oh well. Let's start Tyler Thigpen anyway!"

Herman Edwards is the new Matt Millen.

[/Redskins homerism]

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by Wait, what? (not verified) :: Fri, 09/26/2008 - 11:03pm

More Herm goodness (link in name):

"The situation we're in now is a process," Edwards said. "If you don't realize that, you won't be patient. You'll panic, and when you panic, you make wrong decisions. You never find out what the plan is going to be unless you go forth with it."

You'll never know who's going to start at QB, until you... start someone at QB? Let's call it "Schrödinger's QB controversy."

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by Noah of Arkadia :: Sat, 09/27/2008 - 9:52pm

What he said was funnier. He said that whoever starts gives them the best chance to win. Thigpen is starting this week, hence he gives them the best chance to win. If Gonzalez starts at QB next week, then he gives them the best chance to win. It's a pretty cool concept, when you think about it. It solves a bunch of problems for the coaching staff, as far as making playing time decisions.

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by Anonymous (not verified) :: Sun, 09/28/2008 - 8:50am

If the Chiefs go 2-14 then Edwards will be out of a job at the end of the season. Or at best when they go 0-3 at the start of the 010 season.

6-10 isnt that bad as its a young team rebuilding.

Start Huard, you know what you are going to get - less bonehead mistakes and with Johnson at RB he has a decent man to hand off to and with Gonzalez to throw short receptions. Veteran leadership and game management is what's needed.

At the end of the day Tyler Thiypen went to Coastal Carolina and Minnesota ditched him for quality NFL starters like Brooks Bollinger, Tavaris Jackson, Drew Henson and Gus Ferrotte!

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by Gumbercules (not verified) :: Fri, 09/26/2008 - 4:52pm

The italics must go. I'm having a hard time deciding what's dumber: the people who say the things printed in this feature, or the manner in which the content is (presumably) edited.

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by Eddo :: Fri, 09/26/2008 - 5:04pm

I think the program used to input the articles is poor, in that it's not checking for the closing <em> (and I assume <strong> and other similar tags), resulting in quite a mess if someone forgets to close their italics.

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by BillWallace (not verified) :: Sat, 09/27/2008 - 4:03am

tuluse:

I think it's pretty clear Bowe is at least good. Other than that I completely agree with your point. If Thigpen were a QB with a future he should be in there, but since he's obviously terrible Huard should play so anyone else on the team who may possibly improve during the course of the season and be useful at some point in the future (like Bowe) gets to play on something resembling an NFL team.

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by Tim R :: Sat, 09/27/2008 - 8:09am

I get what you're saying about developing other players and a winning enviroment but Thigpen as only in there 2 games so and regardless of the play of the rest of the offense it was obvious he sucked, but you wouldn't have 100% known that without at least seeing him in live action. Now you know he's awful you can spend the rest of the season with the better QB having a better look at the other players.

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by The Hypno-Toad :: Sat, 09/27/2008 - 12:26pm

Is this the second consecutive week with a "junk-grabbing" incident, or is this the second week of complaining about the same incident? Or am I completely making up some of the entries from last week's TWIQ? These are the sort of questions I am dealing with on a Saturday morning.

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by Rick (not verified) :: Sat, 09/27/2008 - 12:42pm

I don't follow the Raiders much, but regarding the Kiffin situation, I saw (but didn't read) the Mike Silver article. I used to wonder if Silver was a good sportswriter, and would read his column trying to figure it out. I've come to realize he's not. He's pretty damn bad, actually. I'm not surprised he wrote an article that had little basis in fact, or an article that increased divisions in an organization. He's a hack.