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24 Nov 2009

The Week in Quotes: November 24, 2009

compiled by Rory Hickey

THE FALL FROM GENIUS TO BAD COACH ... FASTER THAN YOU CAN SAY FOURTH-AND-TWO

"He's a little cocky ass."

-- Chargers linebacker Shaun Phillips on Broncos' coach Josh McDaniels saying "We own you" to Chargers linebackers before the game (San Diego Union-Tribune)

THE FIFTH STEP TO ACKNOWLEDGING YOU ARE A BAD TEAM IS ACCEPTANCE

"I've got a new sponsor. The Jets have Toyota and I've got Kleenex, for obvious reasons."

-- Jets coach Rex Ryan, referencing his crying in a team meeting (NBC Sports)

"Sometimes you say things to your team and you don't realize that everybody will find out. But that's fine and dandy. If I don't fit the stereotype of coachspeak, so be it. I'm going to always be myself."

-- Ryan

MAYBE HE WAS SCARED OF YOUR GRAMMAR

"Scared. Yeah. I know he was. Y'all can quote it, too. Y'all can tell him right now, tell him I'm sayin' it. I can say it right now: Yeah, he was scared, I think. I told him he was scared."

-- Redskins safety LaRon Landry on why Cowboys wide receiver Roy Williams was held without a catch (Redskins.com)

THE REDSKINS ARE PETITIONING THE LEAGUE FOR THEIR RECORD TO BE THREE PLUS PRETTY MUCH AND SIX

"Other than a couple of plays, we pretty much beat them."

-- Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell on how his team played in its 7-6 loss to the Cowboys (NBC Sports)

GET YA DENTURES READY?

"Might show I'm washed up."

-- Bills wide receiver Terrell Owens after Jaguars receiver Mike Sims-Walker asked for, and received, Owens's jersey at midfield after Jacksonville beat Buffalo. (The Daily News Online)

THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR NOT PUTTING YOUR DOCTORS THROUGH THE COMBINE

"Matt's best play of the day might have been eluding four team doctors to get back on the field."

-- Lions coach Jim Schwartz on the game-winning play in which Matthew Stafford threw the game-winning touchdown pass after being injured on the previous play. Eric Mangini called a timeout to allow Stafford to come back on the field (NBC Sports)

REFERRING TO SOMEONE BY THEIR NUMBER ... BETTER OR WORSE THAN TALKING IN THIRD PERSON?

"Nine's a tough SOB. I know that for a fact. He took a pretty bad hit, came back in the game and finished the game -- hung in there with it."

-- Lions center Dominic Raiola on quarterback Matthew Stafford finishing the game after he injured his shoulder (The Detroit News)

WHAT DO ERIC MANGINI AND CHARLIE WEIS HAVE IN COMMON?

"There were multiple, multiple, multiple injuries throughout our no-huddle process."

-- Browns coach Eric Mangini on the possibility of the Lions faking injuries to slow the tempo of the vaunted Cleveland Browns offense. (Cleveland.com)

"I'm just saying there were a lot of them. Maybe all of those guys were legitimately injured."

-- Mangini, when pressed on whether he was accusing the Lions of cheating

AND SOMETIMES YOU JUST WILLINGLY THROW THE BALL INTO DOUBLE COVERAGE

"Sometimes you miss. Sometimes they have everything covered."

-- Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez on throwing four interceptions in the Jets' beat-down loss to the Patriots (Fifth Down Blog)

BELICHICK FOUND A RULE THAT SAYS YOU CAN ADD POINTS TO GAMES RETROACTIVELY

"We know the Patriots don't quit. They want to keep on adding points up on the board."

-- Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis on a play with thirty seconds left in the game, and the outcome well in hand, in which he was targeted on a pass to Randy Moss (NFL Nation)

ALL THREE OF THOSE EXAMPLES MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS

"You can call it a step backwards, say we turned a corner, we hit a U-turn, whatever you want to say. We just played terrible today. I didn't break a sweat probably 'til like five minutes left in the game

-- Seahawks wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh on the Seahawks terrible performance against the Vikings (HeraldNet)

MARK SANCHEZ KNOWS WHAT WOULD GO WELL WITH THAT SIDELINE BEVERAGE

"I had a lot of cappuccinos."

-- Vikings linebacker Chad Greenway reflecting on the amount of time that the Vikings' defense was on the field for (TwinCities.com)

SO NOW THE DEFENSIVE GUYS ARE GUNSLINGERS TOO?

"We were smiling and having fun out there. We're outlaws for life. It's the Williams-Allen Gang with the Outlaws! It's the Williams-Allen Gang. Everyone else is the Outlaws. Look at Billy the Kid. Do they name every member in Billy the Kid's gang? No, it's Billy the Kid. The rest are the gang."

-- Vikings defense tackle Pat Williams on the dynamic of the naming of the Vikings defense (TwinCities.com)

SEAHAWKS FANS HAVE BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING TO MORA

"I saw Brett after the game and said, 'Would you retire, please?' He said 'You've been saying that to me for about eight years.'"

-- Seahawks coach Jim Mora on his conversation with Vikings quarterback Brett Favre after the Vikings' 35-9 victory over the Seahawks (The Huddle)

PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA

"I mean, he's been making Pro Bowls ever since. It put him on the map. Maybe Haynesworth needs to come knock me out."

-- Cowboys linebacker Bradie James on the incident in which Cowboys offensive lineman Andre Gurode was stomped on by Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth (NFL Nation)

THAT WOULD REQUIRE FANTASY FOOTBALL PLAYERS TO LEAVE THEIR PARENTS' BASEMENTS

"I'm going to have to, I have to make it up for myself too. You should tell those 10,000 that lost that if they come to the games, I will score next time. Fly down to Jacksonville and come to a game."

-- Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew on making it up to the people who lost their fantasy weeks because he took a knee instead of scoring a touchdown against the Jets while encouraging those same people to help fill the Jaguars' stadium (NFL Nation)

HE WAS ALSO ANSWERING THE QUESTION OF WHAT HIS FAVORITE KIRSTEN DUNST MOVIE IS

"It has to be, 'Bring it On.'"

-- Patriots cornerback Leigh Bodden on what the team's approach to Monday night's game against the 10-0 Saints will be (Boston Herald)

REPORTS FROM THE HOTEL SAY THERE WAS AN IMPLOSION

"So much for a good nights sleep..the alarm just went off in our teams hotel hahaha grown men walking around the hallway in their draws haha"

-- Jets tight end Dustin Keller on the fire alarm going off at the team's hotel at 1 a.m. prior to Sunday's game against the Patriots (Twitter)

ALTERNATIVE NAME FOR WILDCAT DURING CBS BROADCASTS: TEBOWCAT

Gary Danielson: "The question is, does LSU have confidence in Sheppard to pass out of the Wild Rebel formation?"
Verne Lundquist: "You meant to say Wild Tiger."
Gary Danielson: "I just call them all Wildcat, let everybody else sort it out."

-- CBS analysts Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson discussing the intricacies of naming the Wildcat formation (Awful Announcing)

FAINT-HEARTED PEOPLE MAKE A COLLECTIVE SIGH ... AND THEN PASS OUT

"This job is not for the faint of heart."

-- Chiefs coach Todd Haley after his team's overtime victory over the Steelers (Sporting News Today)

NOW I'M DONE

"To lose a person like that, there's no dollar amount on that. There is no dollar amount on losing a T-Sizzle because he's somebody when I need I can look to and say I need you right. To lose a man in a play that's not within the rules of the game, that hurts."

-- Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis on Browns quarterback Brady Quinn's fine for hitting Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs, aka T-Sizzle, low after he had just thrown an interception (Ravens.com)

NOBODY KNOWS GREAT ATHLETES QUITE LIKE A 360-POUND MAN

"I have mixed emotions about that. A great athlete? Yes. A football player? No. Yeah LeBron, I said it. It's a punishing game. I just don't think you can step off the basketball court after not going through this year in and year out and just play football. From that standpoint, I just don't think it's possible. You have to weather and condition your body to take this punishment."

-- Browns defensive tackle Shaun Rogers on LeBron James not being able to play in the NFL (ESPN)

THE NEW YORK KNICKS ARE CONSIDERING JOINING THE NFL TO APPEASE LEBRON

"I think he should come on down. I know he's pretty busy right now, but if he wants to give it a shot, the guy is gifted. He's competitive and tough. I'm sure whatever he applied himself to, he'd probably be good in baseball or soccer or swimming."

-- Browns coach Eric Mangini on the possibility of LeBron James playing for the Cleveland Browns (ESPN)

HAVE YOU TIMED HIM?

"Everyone trust me Lebron James could not play in the NFL! ESPN is crazy to even think he could even make a practice squad. He's a 4.9 40 time"

-- Saints tight end Jeremy Shockey(Twitter)

WOULDN'T IT BE MORE LIKE A GOLFER CHANGING THE GRIP ON HIS CLUBS?

"Changing holders can be a little hectic. It's like a golfer changing the type of clubs he uses. It's just a different feel."

-- Oregon kicker Morgan Flint on new holder Nate Costa and his great hold to secure the Ducks' victory and give them a chance at a Rose Bowl berth (Sporting News)

IN THIS STORY, THE CHILD IS NAMED "ROGER GOODELL"

"child wait till you see what I do in Pittsburgh, remember I set aside fine fund before the season started, I'm just starting!!!"

-- Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco on whether or not he is done with his various shenanigans (Twitter)

NOBODY MORE CULTURALLY RELEVANT THAN STEVE URKEL?

"It's like watching Steve Urkel give Chuck Liddell a wedgie when he's not looking. It's chicken."

-- FOX analyst Michael Strahan on the disturbing trend of quarterbacks hitting defenders with dirty hits (The Huddle)

GIVEN THAT THEY'VE GIVEN UP FOUR RETURN TOUCHDOWNS IN THE LAST FIVE GAMES, MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE

"They don't let me play special teams any more. There's a rule, you have to have a spleen and a gall bladder, at least one, to be a part of special teams."

-- Steelers safety Ryan Clark on why the Steelers don't let him play special teams anymore (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette)

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Posted by: Rory Hickey on 24 Nov 2009

56 comments, Last at 26 Nov 2009, 1:47am by utvikefan

Comments

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by WCH (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 2:43am

First?

And I wouldn't encourage Haynesworth to come knock me out; unless, maybe, I could get a Pro Bowl salary as a result.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 3:00am

Is Jeremy Shockey right about Lebron James's 40 time? I don't pay attention to the NBA, but it seems like footspeed would be a useful skill in it. The suggestion that this guy who is touted as the Almighty of Basketball being that slow seems odd.

I guess in basketball, it's more change-of-direction and really short distances, isn't it? But it still seems odd.

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by Key19 :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 3:10am

Great 40 time =/= Great Basketball player. When do they ever run 40 yards? Now, maybe a 10 yard time would be more indicative of basketball skill, but even that I would not be sure about.

I would say James probably runs about a 4.9 40 though, as Shockey said. That seems like a pretty reasonable estimate.

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by AFireSnake (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 8:26am

Besides bullshitting, how do you know LeBron runs a 4.9 and not a 4.6? Or a 4.55? Sorry, but these statements are useless.

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by Tundrapaddy (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 1:52pm

I estimate he can do a good 250, maybe 270 crunches in a row.

And from the tape I've seen of his play, he could probably eat a couple of whoppers in one sitting.

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by Purds :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 9:43am

I would be stunned if LeBron, or any of the "athletic" NBA players, were as slow as 4.9. High school kids run 4.9. Now, is he 4.5, no, I doubt that. But I could see him at 4.6 or 4.7. But 4.9 is really slow.

Look at the NFL combine 40's for the QB's last year:
Name Time
White, Pat 4.55
McGee, Stephen 4.66
Stafford, Matthew 4.81
Bomar, Rhett 4.82
Boltus, Jason 4.83
Wilson, John Parker 4.87
Painter, Curtis 4.87
Sanchez, Mark 4.88
Willy, Drew 4.90
Daniel, Chase 4.92
Reilly, Mike 4.92
Brandstater, Tom 4.95
Freeman, Josh 4.97
Brown, Nathan 5.00
Davis, Nate 5.01
Harper, Cullen 5.05
Hoyer, Brian 5.05
Harrell, Graham 5.14
Holbrook, Chase 5.19
Cantwell, Hunter 5.26

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by Dean :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 10:07am

Are we talking about how fast it actually takes these guys to run 40 yards? Or are we talking about the puffed-up fiction that is the NFL, where they pretend that human beings actually run 40 yards in 4.4 seconds.

The only two people on the planet who have ever run 40 yards from a standstill in 4.4 seconds or less are Ben Johnson, with arguably the greatest Olympic field ever pushing him (including Carl Lewis), at altitude, with a tail wind, and a bunch of steroids - and Usain Bolt, also with world class athlets pushing him, a tail wind, and I'm cynical enough to question if he's clean, too.

There is no way that Chris Johnson or Deion Sanders - or any of your other 40 yard heroes - are faster then those guys. None.

Coming back to the real world for a second, a 6'9" man running a 4.9 is actually extremely impressive. The idea of him being much faster then that is somewhat absurd.

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by Purds :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 10:13am

I'm judging LeBron versus the NFL combine-style timing. Electronic finish, but not electronic start (which is .24 slower than starting to a hand-timed gun). So, I hear you, but I am comparing 4.9 for LeBron to the 4.9 times at the combines.

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by Big Paul (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 10:26am

What are you talking about? Are you by any chance confusing yards and metres? Cos the math doesn't really work out for me.

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by Dean :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 10:42am

Basically, everything that is accepted about the NFL in regards to 40 times is completely bogus. There are no sub-4.4 guys in the NFL.

This article is several years old, but it does a much more in depth explianation then I can offer.

http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/sports/20050418-9999-1s18forty.html

There used to be something similar on NFL.com, but it's been pulled. Go figure. Can't have people paying attention to the man behind the curtain.

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by jmaron :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 11:38am

I'm amazed that the NFL doesn't go to some electronic timing format for the 40. They should measure the times like they do sprinters and come up with two 40 times (one with reaction time added and one from first movement). Reaction time isn't nearly as important as top speed in football I would suspect so I would want both as a scout.

I always read that Jerry Rice was a 4.6 guy when he came out of college. Which by NFL standards is a slow wide receiver. But he sure didn't look like a slow receiver to me. I wonder how accurate the timing process at the combine is with respect to comparative times for the players involved. How can anyone trust that player A's 4.38 is really faster than Player B's 4.50 with such faulty timing processes?

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by Purds :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 11:41am

No incentive for the NFL. Not much fun if you all of a sudden don't have anyone running under 4.50 in FAT timing situations.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 11:46am

The other option is to leave it as is and leave 40 time as a way to weed out bad teams. Good teams will take 40 times and combine numbers with a grain of salt. Bad teams (helloooooo, Al Davis!) will drool over 40 times and remain mired in suckitude.

It's easy to tell how fast a guy is on the football field; there's this thing called "film".

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 1:51pm

That was an interesting article--thank you for the link.

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by Dean :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 1:59pm

Glad to be of service.

It's a soap-box onto which I frequently climb.

Truth is, there's plenty of money in the hype, for the league, for the agents, and for the players. The 40 as/is doesn't provide an accurate measure of how fast someone is in the real world. However, it does a good job as a comparison tool to other football players in identical circumstances. Not a good as electonic timing, but since we've all been conditioned that 4.5 is slow for a WR, it would be bad for business if the league suddenly had a bunch of 4.7 guys getting drafted.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 4:45pm

There's an interesting comment late on in that article, taken from Ron Wolf

"Veteran La Jolla-based agent Jack Bechta says Ron Wolf, the former general manager for the Green Bay Packers, explained it best to him once.

"He told me that there are guys who are fast but play slow, and that there are guys who are slow but play fast," Bechta says. "He told me that, sure, there are exceptions, but you can't have a team full of exceptions. Their thinking is, you can't take a good football player and make him fast, but you can take a great athlete and make him a good football player."

Ron Wolf was a tremendous personnel guy who built the Raiders before he built the Packers. Al Davis is still going on the "you can't teach speed" wisdom today ...

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by zolstice0123 (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 1:06pm

Considering that 4.3 seconds/40 yards equates to 11.76 seconds/100 meters, I think it is quite possible that the fastest guys in the NFL could very well run an accurately timed 4.3 40 time.

Similarly, 4.9 seconds/40 yards equates ti 13.397 over 100 meters, which is well within the range of many, many highschool athletes, so I'm pretty sure Lebron could easily run faster than that.

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by Dean :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 1:54pm

Except that 4.3 is the first 40 yards. The next 60, you've already accellerated and will naturally travel those faster (barring fatigue). So simple multiplication doesn't apply.

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by bravehoptoad :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 3:16pm

Exactly right, which explains, among other things, why the 200-yard dash winners are always faster than the 100 yard winner times 2.

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by Joseph :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 10:19am

Per NBA.com, the length of a basketball court is 94 feet=31 1/3 yds. I am sure that he (and all NBA players) do conditioning drills that require running further, but I have never known ANYBODY to go on a full sprint for conditioning drills. Now, we had to to run "lines", but that still required us to slightly slow down to touch the lines and change direction. My guess is that LeBron has not run more than 40 yds on a full sprint ON A REGULAR BASIS since he stopped playing football in high school.
From my personal playing days (I played both in HS) I know that my short-area quickness (5 yds) was much better suited for basketball--I was VERY slow on 40-100 yds. Most, if not all, NBA players have "short-area quickness." I am sure that there are a bunch (cough-Shaq-cough) that couldn't run a 40 in less than 4.6 seconds.

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by bravehoptoad :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 12:01pm

You should read that link in 19, which shows that a typical 4.35 40 in the NFL is equal to a 4.84 40 in the track world.

Which means that if you're running a 4.9 with no training, that's a 4.41 in the NFL. My man, you should be drafted!

edit -- woops, this is supposed to be a reply to 21.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 1:22pm

I thought basketball courts were longer than that. Never mind my foolishness at the start, then. Shockey may have a point.

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by dryheat :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 11:20am

I think there's little chance that LeBrun is slower than I am. And I'm fairly confident I could get up out of my cube, stretch my 36-year-old hamstrings for a few minutes, put on my tennis shoes, and run a 4.9 or better right now down L Street.

I think maybe Shockey was kidding/busting balls.

To the larger point, much like Wes Welker's 4.8 at his Pro Day, it's entirely irrelevant how fast one can cover 40 yards in a straight line.

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by tuluse :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 3:17am

It's what you said, plus the ability to go full speed while dribbling (in before jokes about crab dribble). LeBron's 10 yard dash would probably be insane, his 40 time not quite so insane. I would bet it's faster than 4.9.

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by Temo :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 9:25am

I'm going to go ahead and say there's no way Jeremy Shockey is faster than LeBron James. Whether it be 10 yards, 40 yards, or a 100 yards.

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by Dean :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 10:54am

Shockey is also 30 years old and has some hard miles on his frame.

But Shockey when he was, say, 23? He was scary fast for a TE.

I know he's a whipping boy around here, but people tend to forget the pure raw athletic marvel that he was coming out of college. If it hadn't been for injuries, he could easily have been the greatest TE of all time.

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by Angry Giants Fan (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 11:53am

Yeah, and if my aunt had a ****, she'd be my uncle.

Even so, I'll always remember Shockey just plain running over that Colts DB. It was one of the most physically impressive plays I've ever seen.

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by Tundrapaddy (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 1:56pm

Well...I'll meet you halfway and agree that he THOUGHT he might be the greatest TE of all time.

Or perhaps, he was the most overhyped TE of all time.

Captcha: quimby Reykjavik. No wonder Iceland's economy is crumbling...they've got Springfield's mayor.

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by Bobman :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 7:24pm

Shockey looks like the NFL's version of Mickey Rourke these days.
Creeeeeepy, scaaaaaary.

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by Key19 :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 3:08am

Good stuff, good stuff.

Has anyone ever said that Braylon is scared? Or does scared-ness vary amongst drop-prone WRs? I don't remember anyone ever saying T.O. was scared... well, except me and a few other fans. But that's not a large enough group to count.

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by Podge (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 5:42am

"I've got Kleenex, for obvious reasons"

Is it wrong that I thought the obvious reason was there was something I'd missed about him being a compulsive wanker?

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by JasonK :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 9:11am

Someone should creep up behind LaRon, whisper "Brandon's coming" in his ear, and see how he reacts.

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by Temo :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 9:26am

child wait till you see what I do in Pittsburgh, remember I set aside fine fund before the season started, I'm just starting!!!"

I love you, Ochocinco.

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by Purds :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 9:45am

I wonder if BB was in on the long pass play call at the end of the game. I can absolutely see why Moss and Brady would want to stick it to Revis and his big fat mouth, but I am surprised a head coach would go along if he knew they planned to do that. Seems petty for a head coach.

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by PatsFan :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 10:19am

I could care less about the alleged pettiness (no one who is a fan of a team GMd by Bill Polian can complain about pettiness, btw). I just don't want to see my starting QB and #1 WR get injured on a meaningless play. So yeah, I didn't like the play.

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by Purds :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 11:40am

Yes, but isn't it weird that BB would get drawn into such a thing? I thought he was the master of not getting distracted. (PS: What's Polian got to do with this? Was he on the field, calling plays, or drafting players for that game?)

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by commissionerleaf :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 12:01pm

Polian wasn't involved because he is the GM of the Colts, not the Patriots. Come to think, I don't even know who replaced the Patriots GM when he went to KC. Polian is, however, petty.

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by MJK :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 12:35pm

Regardless of how the media portrays him, Belichick is human, and is, at times, petty. At least part of the incredible running up of scores in 2007 was a big f*** you to the league for the Spygate allegations. I've seen him call timeouts just out of spite in certain situations. And he (or at least the offensive coordinator) certainly seemed to be gunning for Revis this game just because. The first series and a half the Patriots had, they had trouble moving the ball, because they insisted on trying to force the ball to Moss, even though Revis had him covered well. It wasn't until their third series or so that they finally gave up on that and started throwing to a Wes Welker who was making the rest of the Jets secondary look like they were playing flag football.

Revis may have a big mouth, but let's face it...he is really good. Of course he had safety help with Moss...all elite CB's do have safety help sometimes, and against elite guys, they have it more than against average receivers, but from the start it looked like throwing at Revis was a bad idea. And yet they seemed to stick with it far longer than they should have, just to make a point.

The bit at the end struck me as more of the same. And it irritated me to no end--like PatsFan, I really didn't want to see them risking injury to Brady, Moss, or anyone else in a meaningless situation.

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by Tybalt the Greenish (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 2:00pm

Steve Waugh, the great Australian cricket captain, coined the phrase "mental disintegration" in referring to how the Aussies would remorselessly grind their opponents into the dust. The aim is to make that anguish and humiliation part of what playing his team is all about. I suspect Belichick's ploys are similar - he wants that player to feel wary (or wrathful) about playing the Patriots ever again. Get into someone's head and you diminish their focus.

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by Noah of Arkadia :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 12:50pm

I think BB has a highly developed sense of revenge

...MJK beat me to it

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by PatsFan :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 12:56pm

Remember 2003, for example. Buffalo crushed NE in the opener, 31-0. In the season finale, the Pats left Brady in to take a 28-0 lead (and almost got him hurt) that eventually went to (ha!) 31-0. As Buffalo drove in the final minute to try to get on the board, BB put some of his 1st string defenders back into the game (after having taken them out earlier) for the last play or two to (successfully) preserve the shutout.

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by Kevin from Philly :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 2:15pm

Trying to preserve a shutout doesn't strike me as completely out of line. NFL D's take a lot of pride in a shutout - I'd be surprised of the starters didn't lobby hard to get back in.

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by Bobman :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 7:31pm

Thyere's a Princess Bride quote I am thinking of that's not quite coming to me... Count Rugen to Inigo Montoya. "It's going to get you killed someday"...?

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by Esperanto Slim (not verified) :: Wed, 11/25/2009 - 11:27am

"You've got an overdeveloped sense of vengeance. That's going to get you in trouble someday."

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by Feagles - King ... :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 10:21am

Is it just me, or is it funny to hear Shaun Rogers talk about "condition?" It seems like the only "condition" he's concerned about is the "condition" of the post-game spread.

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by Will Allen (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 12:47pm

The biggest test of any NBA big man, and I put James in that category, as to whether they could be an NFL player, is how they will react to the physical beating, which is on another planet, compared to professional basketball. I think Shaq could have been a monstrous defensive end, if he had been willing to take the punishment. Not surprisingly, making tens of millions of dollars by backing guys down in the paint was a lot more appealing than having Walter Jones punch him in the throat, for less money. That was always also so silly about some people speculating about Usain Bolt trying to become a wide receiver. Lemme see....a guy can get very rich running sprints, in nice weather in a t shirt and shorts, or a guy can get probably less rich by wearing a lot of equpment while Troy Polamalu tries to give you a concussion. Hmmmmm... which one to choose?

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by Bobman :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 7:37pm

Great analogy. After a few concussions, it hardly matters. Hey, look at all the bright lights. What, you want me to run carrying this inflated leather bag? Okay.

I tried to tell my 9 year-old that getting through a football season is largely about pain management, that he'd have bruises up and down his forearms and shins. And these are 60 lb kids hitting him at 3 MPH, not 260s going 15 MPH. Pain slows you down, weakens you, depresses you, etc. (Trade some constant hunger for constant pain and you have wrestling too.) Still, after every practice, he'd say "I can't wait til tomorrow."

You really have to love it enough to put up with the pain, or worse, actually take some comfort from the pain.

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by Will Allen (not verified) :: Wed, 11/25/2009 - 3:08am

Yeah, wrestlers are the REALLY crazy bastards, especially at the lighter weights, where, it seems to me, that the weight cutting really starts to get insane.

I had a short career as a wrestler, and hated every minute of it. The pain and drudgery in football was always counterbalanced by the fact that I love being outside, and the games are a blast. Wrestling practices tends to take place in smelly, claustrophobic places, with the thermostat turned up to 90. The meets are drawn out affairs with a lot of waiting. Just couldn't find a way to have a lot of fun with it, even before the diet restrictions are factored..

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by drobviousso :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 12:49pm

My beloved Steelers are organists?

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by TomC :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 3:52pm

That particular use of the word "organist" had me really confused for a minute. (I was thinking toccatas and fugues and all that.)

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by Tundrapaddy (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 2:01pm

"Nine's a tough SOB. I know that for a fact. He took a pretty bad hit, came back in the game and finished the game -- hung in there with it."

Okay, I know that we joke about there just being 'Chicago QB'. Apparently the players in Detroit think the same thing about their field marshal.

Ouch. Can't blame them, though - how many QBs has Raiola had the pleasure if failing to protect?

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by TomC :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 3:57pm

I'm surprised that Randy Cross's comment on the final TD didn't make it in here or Awful Announcing. Regarding the throw to Brandon Pettigrew, Cross said Stafford "stuck it right in his young tight end."

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by Jumpin Jahosofat! (not verified) :: Wed, 11/25/2009 - 11:22am

I have never read anything or heard anyhing that would lead me to believe that Darrelle Revis has a big mouth. And I would say, that after both Pats/Jets games -- it's fair to say Revis did get the better of him both games... and he really did have very little to say about it.

He acknowledged that he didn't say anything to Moss on the field, because he does maintain a high level of respect toward Moss.

As far as I can tell - Revis is simply a class act.

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by MJK :: Wed, 11/25/2009 - 1:33pm

Fair enough. Let me re-pharse:

Rex Ryan has a big mouth when talking about Revis.

No, wait, I'll edit that.

Rex Ryan has a big mouth.

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by Hank (not verified) :: Wed, 11/25/2009 - 1:13pm

You'd think a smart GM or owner, not wanting to waste millions of dollars on fantasy 40 times, would, you know, create a standardized speed test, or leave the dark magic out of the draft selection process.

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by utvikefan (not verified) :: Thu, 11/26/2009 - 1:47am

I love the "mental disintegration post. Obviously, PManning has done that to BB.