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19 Aug 2011

The Week In Quotes: August 19, 2011

compiled by Rivers McCown

NOT QUITE TO THE END OF GODWIN'S LAW YET, BUT GETTING CLOSER

"The only person i can compare Shapiro to is Bin Laden." -- 2 Live Crew member and Miami Hurricanes fan Luther Campbell, on Nevin Shapiro (Yahoo!)

BUT THIS AIN'T SEAWORLD, THIS IS REAL AS IT GETS

"The other stuff he is making easy like boats. Dawg boats? Come on man get on the boat. We are going to go out on a boat. We got some women. Well we are out of practice at 3:30. I will meet you over there at 4. That is just what you say. I am sorry. That’s the truth." -- Ex-Cowboys receiver Michael Irvin, on the temptations boosters offer football players (Sports Radio Interviews)

IN PAPER MARIO THEY FIXED THIS BY HITTING YOU IN THE HEAD WITH A HAMMER

"I can’t tell you his name, I don’t know where he’s from, I don’t know if he can throw it left-handed or right-handed. I don’t know anything. He was going through the acclimation period where he can’t put pads on right now and can only practice once a day." -- West Virginia coach Dana Holgorsen, on the solution to last week's "no third quarterback" problem, Ian Loy (WV Metro News)

JUST BE GLAD ED KOCH DIDN'T SENTENCE YOU TO MOONACHIE

"You know what I said after that? I said, 'Who's Mayor Bloomberg?' Dead serious." -- Jets wide receiver Plaxico Burress, upon hearing the Mayor of New York wanted to raise his bail money (ESPN New York)

WELL IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THIS ANY FUN, I GUESS WE CAN ASK JAY CUTLER ABOUT CAVALLARI FOR THE HUNDREDTH TIME

"I think we’ve got a good quarterback group. I think a lot of the stuff is overblown. I don’t live any relationship through the media, so people want to come out and [ask], ‘How’s your relationship, how’s this?’ That’s nobody’s business but our own." -- Broncos quarterback Kyle Orton, on his relationship with Tim Tebow (Sports Radio Interviews)

NO, YOU CAN'T PAY YOUR FINE WITH EXCLAMATION POINTS

"$20,000 REALLY???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, on his fine for nearly decapitating Andy Dalton (Twitter)

PLEASE STAY TUNED FOR A WORD FROM OUR SPONSOR, IBM

"Nobody is -— nobody lacks ethics because they’re poor. There are millions of Americans who are categorized financially as poor who have ethics and don’t take things that belong to them. The truth is, though, people don’t like to admit their faults. Very few people will own their own baggage. That’s why therapy is good for all of us. So people make excuses for doing things. I’m poor so I took $30,000 from a booster. No, you lack ethics, and you just happened to be poor. But a lot of poor people don’t take money that’s not their money" -- ESPN Radio Host Colin Cowherd, on the state of college athletics (Sports Grid)

YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST RAISED CLIFFORD THE BIG RED DOG, THEN YOU'D BE BOTH KING OF THE STREETS AND NON-DESPICABLE

"Some of us had to grow up in poverty-stricken urban neighborhoods, and we just had to adapt to our environment. I know that it's wrong. But people act like it's some crazy thing they never heard of. They don't know." -- Eagles quarterback Michael Vick, on dogfighting (GQ)

"IT WAS A CONTEST FOR CHILDREN!" "YEAH, AND HOMER BEAT THEIR BRAINS OUT!"

"I don't admit because they still gotta prove it on the field. We beat them by ten points. It wasn't even close. The game wasn't even close. We beat them by ten points and it wasn't even a contest. I was surprised we didn't beat them by more." -- Jets coach Rex Ryan, on beating Indianapolis when they were 14-0 in 2009 (Sports Radio Interviews)

CLIFF'S NOT HERE, MAN

"We smoked it all." -- Oregon defensive back Cliff Harris, responding to a police officer's question of why his car smelled of marijuana (Sports Grid)

STILL SLIGHTLY LESS INANE THAN TIM MCCARVER

"Hawaii is part of the United States."
"Since when?"
"Since, it's been awhile."
"Okay."
-- Discussion between FOX broadcaster Joe Buck and normal studio host Terry Bradshaw during Thursday's Eagles-Steelers game. (Deadspin)

LETS NOW MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION 2011-83, THE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION OF CROUTONS IN SALADS

"This proposal seeks to make a reasonable accommodation in allowing an institution to provide traditional bagel spreads to student-athletes in conjunction with the bagels it is already permitted to provide." -- NCAA Proposal No. 2011-78(The Dagger)

BECAUSE HE WAS NOT ARNAZ BATTLE?

"Jason Hill is a really good receiver that I still don’t understand how is not with the 49ers anymore," -- Jaguars quarterback David Garrard on his team's No. 2 wide receiver (ESPN's AFC South Blog)

WHICH THE NFL IS INCREDIBLY CONCERNED ABOUT, AS SHOWN BY THEIR DESIRE FOR AN 18-GAME SEASON

"I don't think so, and here's the issue — when you pass something for player safety reasons only, and you then go back on that, you're almost sending a message to the players that you don't care about player safety" -- Former NFL VP of officiating Mike Pereira, on the new kickoff rules (Shutdown Corner)

...THEN I REMEMBERED I LIKED WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES

"I think I can say this now, because it's not going to hurt anybody's feelings, and it's the truth ... I didn't want to come to Philadelphia. Being the third-team quarterback is nothing to smile about. Cincinnati and Buffalo were better options." -- Michael Vick, in the same GQ article, about his post-imprisonment options (GQ)

NO CAN DUNK, BUT GOOD FUNDAMENTALS

"Not really. We kind of tried to hook up a few times. I remember the first time I met him. This probably isn’t the coolest way to tell a story about how you meet somebody. I think I was at a University of Washington Women’s basketball game with my two little girls and I go to get a drink or whatever and this kid comes walking up and he’s like ‘Hey Mr. Hasselbeck I wanted to introduce myself.’ I could tell he was a football player by his build or whatever and I’m like ‘Hey what’s up man.’ I thought he was a linebacker or tight end or something. He’s like ‘Hey my name is Jake Locker. I’m a quarterback here.’" -- Titans quarterback Matt Hasselbeck, on his first time meeting his current backup (Sports Radio Interviews)

TO SCORE MORE POINTS THAN THE OPPOSITION, WE'RE THINKING OF THROWING THE BALL FORWARD THIS YEAR, AND PERHAPS SOMETIMES RUNNING WITH IT AS WELL

"I think the magic number's winning six games ... and the key to doing that is scoring more points than the opposition, playing defense and [the] kicking game." -- New Indiana Hoosiers head coach Kevin Wilson, showing a little sass with local radio about how the Hoosiers can make it to a bowl game (Dr. Saturday)

FOR INSTANCE, OUR CORNERBACKS SEEM TO GIVE UP A LOT OF TOUCHDOWNS

"You've got one guy in the league, Nnamdi, and all he does is press. You ever see him make a tackle? He presses the wide receiver, and he's great at it. But there's more to playing DB than just pressing wide receivers." -- Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham on new Eagles cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (Detroit Free Press)

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Posted by: Rivers McCown on 19 Aug 2011

51 comments, Last at 25 Aug 2011, 10:06pm by Intropy

Comments

1
by Whatev :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:54am

There would be more to playing DB than just pressing wide receivers if anybody actually threw in your direction.

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by Levente from Hungary :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 3:34am

Around 50 years ago in Hungary some officials at the national soccer associations complained to the head coach for selecting a certain forward to the olympics team. The main argument was "he only scores goals". The coach said, that's enough for me. He finished the tournament as the top scorer and Hungary won the title.

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by Marko :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 12:21pm

In other words, Buddy Ryan was not the coach of that team.

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by Zac :: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 8:58pm

You must be referring to Ferenc Bene, who scored 12 goals to lead all scorers in the 1964 Toyko Olympics, in which Hungary took the gold medal.

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by spenczar :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:42pm

Reminds me of a comment that Cris Carter had responding to some critic (can't remember who):

Critic: "Yeah, Cris was good, but not Hall of Fame material. All he ever did was score touchdowns."
Carter: "All I did was score touchdowns? You know that, in football, that's a good thing, right?"

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by Marko :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:57pm

Sigh. Read the second paragraph in this article. http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2009/06/25-years-ago-cris-carter.html. Then read post 18 above.

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by Independent George :: Tue, 08/23/2011 - 10:28am

Also, Ryan loved Chris Carter, but released him because of his drug problems. To this day, Carter says that move saved his life.

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by Dean :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 12:13pm

Who?
Cliff.
Cliff's not here, man.

Good stuff.

BTW - is it wrong that I'm still not sure whether it was Buck or Bradshaw that didn't know Hawaii was a state?

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by Theo :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 3:42pm

Bradshaw sounded like he was drunk or just plain stupid. I'm pretty sure it was him.

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by Marko :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:04pm

Come on, man. It was Bradshaw, but it was pretty obvious he was just joking around and acting like he didn't know Hawaii was a state. Bradshaw may not be the sharpest guy around, but he isn't that dumb. He has been called stupid ever since Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson said before Super Bowl XIII that "Bradshaw couldn't spell 'cat' if you spotted him the 'c' and the 'a'." Bradshaw plays up this image and laughs all the way to the bank, as his easygoing, "dumb hick" personality led to his successful broadcasting career as well as some roles in Hollywood. Obviously, his HOF NFL career was very important as well, but not all HOF and Super Bowl winning QBs become successful in broadcasting. Just ask Joe Montana.

This just shows that Bradshaw knows how to laugh at himself. And that he is pretty smart to keep doing it.

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by Harrison Bergeron (not verified) :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 12:37pm

I count three Simpsons/Futurama references this week - excellent job!

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by Keith(1) (not verified) :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 12:52pm

I was more impressed with The Lonely Island reference.

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by justanothersteve :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:19pm

And a Cheech and Chong reference!

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by tuluse :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 1:06pm

Colin Cowherd is the worst. Accepting money from a booster is equivalent to stealing now?

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by TomC :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 1:32pm

Amen. "A lot of poor people don’t take money that’s not their money." Well whose money is it, dckweed? It's the booster's, and people like you who worship the free market surely must agree that s/he is free to give it away as s/he pleases. Put another way, how do you make your money, Mr. Waste-of-oxygen Talk-show-host? Presumably, someone offered you a pile of money to perform a task, and you happily performed that task and took the money. It wasn't your money, so why did you take it?

If you want to argue that the player in question behaved unethically because he knew that it was against NCAA rules to take money, that's a different matter. (I personally think that argument is rendered moot by the vastly more unethical way the NCAA treats players, but at least it's a cogent argument, unlike Cowherd's.)

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by nath :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 6:12pm

Also, whether not most poor people "take money that isn't their money" (a really loaded phrasing), most poor people don't have the opportunity for someone to give them $30,000.

Cowherd is the worst. Didn't he tell his listeners to launch a DoS attack on Deadspin's website a few years back? He should have been fired for something so flagrantly unprofessional then.

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by JetFanMike (not verified) :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 10:03pm

So are you saying that poor people do in fact lack ethics because they are poor, but they also lack opportunity?

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by JetFanMike (not verified) :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 10:09pm

It seems to me that you've deliberately misunderstood Cowherd's argument. His argument is that this unethical behavior is being excused because of poverty, when in fact it is the consequence of a lack of character, and has nothing to do with poverty.

Do you think otherwise? Do these people behave unethically because they are poor?

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by RichC (not verified) :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 10:30pm

I'm not sure its unethical to take the money when you're poor. Feeding your family is more important than not offending the ncaa's sensibilities.

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by Muldrake :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 10:45pm

Um, they weren't using the money for groceries. Sure, some of the money went to lavish 5 star meals. But most of it went to pay prostitutes and lodging for parties with the prostitutes. Some of the money (allegedly) went to pay for an abortion for a stripper a player impregnated.

Its kind of hard to make the case that the money was ethically used even if it was their own. At least the Love Boat Vikings were using their own money though. Add to that the fact that this scandal could actually result in Miami having their program shut down and I really don't see how anyone could make an argument that it was ethical in any way, shape, or form for the players to take the money.

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by Jerry :: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:31am

Shapiro says he paid for the prostitutes and parties and 5-star meals. Players who got cash might have spent it on more of that, or on more mundane groceries, or sent the money back to Mom.

It also looks like Miami's coaches were aware at some level of what Shapiro was doing. If kids think that their coaches approve of what boosters are offering, they probably don't feel like they're betraying their school.

It's not hard to make a case that it's unethical for colleges to make millions of dollars with unpaid football players. (Reasonable people can and do disagree.) If the players feel like they're being used for others' gain, they're unlikely to feel bad about taking advantage of their opportunities to benefit.

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by Muldrake :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 12:14pm

It's really rather irrelevant whether the players felt justified in taking the money though. It doesn't change the fact that they were ethically bound by the contract to not violate NCAA rules and they did so anyway. If they felt entitled to do so because they felt they should be getting more for their talents makes their ethical violations all the worse.

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by LOLEAGLES (not verified) :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 3:27pm

Cowherd's commentary is dead on. Making the argument that poverty trumps ethics, and therefore it's OK to take money that is prohibited by the rules, is an absurd argument. Sure, poor people rarely have money handed to them, so it SEEMS like it would be a good thing to just partake and move on - but let's face it, it's easy to just forget the ethics part and take the money and hope your poverty will make people feel bad for you.

Today, we roll over in almost ALL aspects of our lives for the emotional response. A classic line "But what about the children?" is almost laughable, to the point that it's regularly featured in crowd scenes on "The Simpsons". In fact, you could apply it to the NCAA rules issue, too, given the number of athletes who have kids! But at the end of the day, rules are rules and they should either be followed and enforced, or they should be changed.

I, for one, think that getting a free education (whether you choose to actually avail yourself or not is your problem) is alot of compensation. But I do think a little more should be offered to players, particularly if they come from a needy background.
On the other hand, they should have much closer supervision - something most people will complain about, saying "what about my rights?". Well, the minute you accepted someone else's money, you've entered into a contract to behave a certain way and do certain things. I do this every day at my job - so it's up to the colleges to get the kids to do this, too.

Coddled asses - Cowherd is right, crying poverty is no excuse for bad behavior.

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by Aaron Brooks' Good Twin (not verified) :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 6:06pm

Cowherd is either liar or an idiot when he calls it stealing.

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by Intropy :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 6:51pm

I know nothing about him other than this one quotation. His point seems to be that ethics and wealth are orthogonal. He didn't equate it to "stealing" he equated it to "tak[ing] money that’s not their money." Now in normal discussion that would mean stealing, but in context, and considering its probably extemporaneous speech, I think it's uncharitable to assume he mean stealing rather than something like "taking money not rightfully theirs."

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by tuluse :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 8:00pm

He's trying to equate it to stealing in his listeners mind's without actually saying it because it is a ridiculous stance. Thus, he is the worst.

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by JetFanMike (not verified) :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 10:02pm

Do you think he is the worst because he is implying that poverty makes people steal? What is "the worst" about his elocution? To be more precise, what is "the worst" about using the imprecise phrase "take money that isn't theirs," in comparison to the unethical behavior these players behaved in?

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by Obvious Troll (not verified) :: Thu, 08/25/2011 - 7:34pm

In other parts of the world, there's a simple maxim: If you're good enough, you're old enough.

In the US, sports are set up to make sure the NCAA gets their 30 pieces of silver.

I don't think it is ethical to force players to sign a contract that limits their ability to earn money in exchange for a 'free' education. I don't know where you're coming from in blaming the players for their casual lack of ethics when they're forced into their position by institutionalised slavery. You can rag on the players all you want but we know the NCAA system is built on an honour system which has been routinely broken by boosters and the NCAA does nothing to fix it.

You and Cowherd make it sound like these guys walk around going "You a booster? Gimme money!"

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by Aaron Brooks' Good Twin (not verified) :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 9:18am

There's a difference between "against the rules" and "unethical." Most of these guys will never make a dime, professionally, off their football abilities. They chose to ignore the rules imposed by a group that pretends to be about amateurism but which instead functions (quite lucratively) as a pre-professional apprenticeship to the NBA and the NFL (The NCAA, for all its bluster, doesn't give two shits about sports not named baseball, football, or basketball).

At worst, if caught, these guys will lose eligibility (hello NFL) or their break-even scholarships. What's lost?

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by The Hypno-Toad :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 2:21pm

One of the best things about living in Denver (and most other sports-obsessed cities, I assume) is that we have so many sports radio stations that I haven't had to listen to the drivel that ESPNradio shovels out in such amazing quantities. Cowherd is the absolute worst. I hate that man so much.

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by Muldrake :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 10:35pm

How is taking money from a booster like stealing? Well, the players sign a contract saying that they won't do it for one thing. For another, Miami is almost certainly going to face heavy sanctions which will cost them millions of dollars.

I know this is mainly a pro site, but I can't believe that people are siding with the players here. They screwed their university, their fans, and their more honest teammates. And its not like they did it for their family or anything...they did it for their personal pleasure.

Maybe you think players should be paid, and that's fine. The fact is that paying players isn't allowed and as much as I hate to agree with Cowherd as a general rule, he's right here. Screwing everyone who gives you a shot at reaching your dream of playing in the NFL is not an ethically gray area. Its pretty clearly wrong.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 5:17am

I don't care one way or the other if players took money. I'm not siding with them because I literally do not care. However, taking money from someone who wants to give it to you is not the same as theft.

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by Muldrake :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 12:21pm

I don't know why the focus is on theft, since that isn't actually in the original quote. But ethically it's pretty much the same because Miami is still going to lose millions of dollars. It's not unlike the Enron affair...the executives didn't literally steal millions of dollars from share holders but their acts had the same effect. There's a legal difference but not really an ethical one.

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by tuluse :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 2:04pm

No, it's nothing like Enron.

The Enron execs did literally steal money. Enron wasn't a giant ponzi scheme. The Enron execs actually did take money which wasn't theirs and instead of using it like they were supposed to, investing it according to their business model, just pocketed it.

The Miami players did nothing like this. They took gifts freely given to them.

The reason the focus is on stealing is because that's how Cowherd describes it, taking money that isn't yours.

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by JetFanMike (not verified) :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 9:56pm

So you would consider outside the bounds of possibility the interpretation that says "taking money that isn't yours" equals in this context "taking money you shouldn't take"? And you're going to make your stand on this hill, and fight to the death, and pay no attention to the point Cowherd was actually trying to make, which is that poverty doesn't excuse unethical behavior?

How about we just ask that question, and forget Cowherd altogether. Does poverty excuse ethical behavior?

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by flipbroker :: Thu, 08/25/2011 - 9:17pm

No one is saying that poverty excuses unethical behavior.

Cowherd equated taking money from boosters to stealing. "taking money that isn't yours" is the definition of stealing. He's saying that they were stealing. They weren't.

Beyond the alice-in-wonderland claims that their behavior was unethical simply because of some contract they signed, what was unethical about their behavior?

And let me ask you this: if a Nazi soldier signed a contract to follow orders and was subsequently ordered to kill a prisoner merely because that prisoner was Jewish, would the soldier's behavior be unethical for killing the prisoner or would it be unethical for breaking the contract and letting the prisoner escape?

I would argue that killing the prisoner would be unethical.

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by Intropy :: Thu, 08/25/2011 - 10:06pm

Godwined!

Also, strangely, Lewis Carrolled!

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by Aaron Brooks' Good Twin (not verified) :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 10:04am

"How is taking money from a booster like stealing? Well, the players sign a contract saying that they won't do it for one thing. For another, Miami is almost certainly going to face heavy sanctions which will cost them millions of dollars."
--------

None of those things make it stealing. At worst, it's a contract violation whose only penalty is a severing of the contract. And it's a violation committed in part by some of the university's biggest funders.

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by sundown (not verified) :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 1:45pm

I had to click through and read about three articles before I was finally convinced the NCAA bagels bit wasn't from The Onion. Someplace a team is paying guys out of a slush fund but the NCAA is busy writing rules about bagels. They're their own punchline.

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by justanothersteve :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:20pm

Agreed. That was one of the biggest WTF quotes ever.

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by TomKelso :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 12:26pm

Give credit to the staff at Mike and Mike for that one -- the morning after the U story broke, it was their running joke of the day as to how the NCAA would regulate nuts on the bagels but not crooks around the program...

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by commissionerleaf :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 5:50pm

The Vick interview is interesting; he goes on to say that one of the downsides now is that he doesn't have the companionship of owning a dog as a pet. Gotta love a society where dogs get more respect than college coeds (see: Roethlisberger, Ben).

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by Theo :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 6:41pm

Roethlisberger was never convicted of rape, so there would be no judge to forbid him from marrying someone.

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by DGL :: Tue, 08/23/2011 - 8:22am

"Roethlisberger was never convicted of rape"

Never even charged, recall.

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by TomKelso :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 12:37pm

As disturbing and wrong as what Roethlisberger did, go read the court records of what Vick do to those dogs -- then come back and tell me they're equal in your eyes.

I have no problem with Vick making a living -- and actually am pulling for him to succeed, because too many people get treated like garbage for having a record, even after serving their sentences. But, just like a felony DUI shouldn't go anywhere near a bar or liquor store, I'd be leery of Vick even owning a goldfish.

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by Stewart (not verified) :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 2:36pm

As MJD of Yahoo! once said, I have no problem with Vick owning a dog. It's when he gets two that the trouble starts.

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by giraffesturbation (not verified) :: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 4:51am

"As disturbing and wrong as what Roethlisberger did, go read the court records of what Vick do to those dogs -- then come back and tell me they're equal in your eyes."

Having read them, I am still of the often unpopular opinion that harm done to a human being is always worse than harm done to any animal - dog or goldfish, dolphin or cockroach.

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by Sergio :: Tue, 08/23/2011 - 8:20pm

Hear, hear!

I'm a 100% cockroach segregationist!

-- Go Phins!

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by Kevin from Philly :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 10:07am

You are correct - I've seen the PETA videos of illegal goldfish fighting, and they are VERY disturbing.

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by G_Man :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 6:46pm

The Kevin Wilson quote above doesn't the whole interview justice. The radio host was mocking Indiana football before they have Wilson on, and he is totally condescending and dismissive of the hosts. The link has a full transcript and audio of the interview, but here is the beginning of it. FYI, Wilson used to coach at Northwestern, and the radio host is a big Illini fan.

"Zaccagnini: You sound like you've been doing some screaming at practice, coach. Are we yelling at the players already?

Wilson: No, we're yelling at media guys that don't have a clue. Anyway, what's happening?

Trudeau: You're not referring to us are you, coach?

Zaccagnini: No, let me ask, though, I gotta know —

Wilson: Y'all were referring to fight songs, I remember [Indiana] putting 61 on the Illini back when I was at Northwestern and they kind of stunk at the time, too. Anyway, I got some things to do, guys. What do you guys need?"

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by zlionsfan :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:24pm

and Trudeau played at Illinois. I believe he was the one that made the comment just prior to having Wilson on about how he didn't remember IU playing their fight song much when they played Illinois (i.e. not scoring much). Given the Illini's performance then (10-2, 7-4, 6-5-1, two bowl losses), bragging about anything other than the Rose Bowl season probably wasn't wise, and bragging about beating the dregs of the conference (who went on to have a better record than Illinois the next three seasons) wasn't any better, especially given their guest.

People seem to be split on it: some think Wilson overreacted, some think he gave the radio guys what they deserved. I'm in the latter group. There is way too much crap on the air these days ... "ha ha u sux0r" deserves to be called out for what it is. Wilson already has a tough job ahead of him, and he'll have to answer questions from people with brains. I don't think he should have to respond politely to people without brains.