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» FEI Week 13: Undefeated and Unloved

Florida State has yet to lose a game this year, but there's a reason you won't find them at the top of most rankings.

24 Nov 2011

The Week In Quotes: November 25, 2011

compiled by Rivers McCown

BUT IS HE SCRAPPY?

"Seriously, a lot of it has to do with the fact that guys look at him and say, `OK, he's the white guy, he can't be that good.' Well, he is that good, he's proven to be that good and it's because of the work and the time that he's put in -- not only on the field but in his preparation off the field." -- Packers receiver Greg Jennings, on fellow Green Bay wideout Jordy Nelson (AP)

DON'T WORRY, YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND ANOTHER ONE AT BAGGAGE CLAIM

"Like the internist said, it was just a perfect hit. A very rare hit (like they see) in car accidents and those types of things. It's very uncommon for a football injury." -- Washington State coach Paul Wulff, on the lacerated liver suffered by quarterback Connor Halliday (The Seattle Times)

PARANOIA PARANOIA EVERYBODY'S COMING TO GET ME

"You lose a game and everyone wants to jump on the hater bandwagon of the Steelers even more than they already are." -- Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, on the fan reaction to losing in Week 1 (NFL.com)

FILE THIS QUOTE AWAY FOR THE NEXT TIME YOU HEAR THE PHRASE "STUDENT-ATHLETE"

"I know all these schools athletically can offer me the same thing. The academic support at Ohio State, there is no way you can fail. Even if you’re giving minimal effort there is no way you can fail." -- Ohio State recruit Adolphus Washington, on his new school (247Sports)

MY ASS HAS BLISTERS FROM THE SLIDE!

"You ever been in a car crash? Done bumper cars? You know when that hit catches you off guard and jolts you, and you’re like, what the hell? Football is like that. But 10 times worse. It’s hell." -- Retired defensive tackle Kris Jenkins, on playing football (New York Times)

YOU CAN'T THROW ROCKS FROM YOUR HOUSE OF GLASS

"I know there is a game at noon on Saturday and my ass will be there." -- Ohio State interim coach Luke Fickell, on his future (Columbus Dispatch)

AT LEAST NICKELBACK WON'T BE THERE

"We were off to a 3-1 start and now we’re 3-7 and I had pneumonia. And this whole thing just sucks." -- Redskins quarterback Rex Grossman, on the dwindling hopes in Washington (Tacoma News-Tribune)

NOW IF YOU'D LET ME PREFACE EACH OF THEM WITH AN AUDIBLE CALL...

"You kidding me? I can’t do that normally." -- Missouri coach Gary Pinkel, on counting backwards from 73 to 62. (Columbia Tribune)

MIGHT I SUGGEST PROFESSIONAL TROLL AS A POST-FOOTBALL JOB?

"My only assumption in this —- and it’s just an opinion -— is that he does not like football, by what I’ve seen over the last three years. If he loved the game of football, he’d show up and love it." -- Redskins tight end Chris Cooley, on Albert Haynesworth (DC Sports Bog)

"It was on the goal-line. He actually screamed like normal in the pile." -- Buccaneers tackle Haynesworth, on ending Matt Schaub's season (The Tennessean)

LOWERED EXPECTATIONS

"The last thing that I'm going to remind you before we sing, is that the one thing Tennessee always does is kick the (expletive) out of Vandy." -- Tennessee coach Derek Dooley, on beating Vanderbilt (Dr. Saturday)

THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "AWESOME" AND "EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE"

"I can't point a finger at anybody but myself. The way I'm playing right now, they need to go and cut me, because I'm definitely not worth what I'm getting. It's frustrating," -- Redskins cornerback DeAngelo Hall, on his performance against the Cowboys last Sunday (AP)

"I had so many calls from other guys in the league telling me how great I was as a corner. And I'm, like, 'Dude, I'm not on suicide watch.'" -- Hall (AP)

GONNA MAKE BILLY BOB GIVE UP HIS HOURLY SUNDAE, FOR STARTERS

"Yep. I want all our coaches to sit down with them where they live —- go to their apartment or their house or their dorm room — and see if they’re living the right lifestyle. I don’t know these guys." -- New Arizona head coach Rich Rodriguez, on if he'd visit the house of every current Wildcat (Tucson Citizen)

THEN SHE TIED ME TO THE WALL AND STUCK A FUNNEL IN MY MOUTH AND FORCE-FED ME NOTHING BUT SAUERKRAUT UNTIL I WAS TWENTY-SIX-AND-A-HALF-YEARS-OLD

"When we were young kids, right? I went to school, I was six years old, seven years old. And this guy saw my grandmother and said my grandmother ran like a bulldog. And I beat the heck out of him. I beat the heck out of him. I went home and my mom was so disappointed that I beat the heck out of him. She said, 'Don't worry. It doesn't matter what people say about you. It doesn't matter what people say about your family.' So I learned that lesson a long time ago not to get upset with clowns that don't really know what they're talking about that have something to say. So we've moved on. I learned that lesson." -- Buccaneers head coach Raheem Morris, on a critical column from Mike Lombardi (St. Petersburg Times)

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, "TO PLAY US OUT?"

"Ah, f--- it!" -- College Gameday host Lee Corso, on picking Houston to beat SMU (SportsGrid)

IT TAKES TWO TO LIE MARGE: ONE TO LIE AND ONE TO LISTEN

"As I'm getting up, I'm getting pushed so I'm getting myself unbalanced ... With that a lot of people are going to interpret it as or create their own storylines ... but I know what I did," -- Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, on his ejection after stomping on Evan Dietrich-Smith (NFL.com)

STRIKETHROUGH "AND BARKS IS EITHER RETARDED OR" AND YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE

"Anybody who calls into a radio show and barks is either retarded or doesn’t have a life." -- Georgia Tech head coach Paul Johnson, on a prank call that his weekly radio show received (Atlanta Journal-Constitution)

ARE YOU SURE YOU WON'T BE BACKPEDALING FROM THESE COMMENTS?

"Because whenever you see a man in a contract dispute -— a fellow NFL player -— you don’t take that opportunity to take your shots at him. You wait until you’re about to play him, then you take your shots." -- Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora, on comments from LeSean McCoy (The Bergen Record)

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Posted by: Rivers McCown on 24 Nov 2011

34 comments, Last at 28 Nov 2011, 10:39pm by DisplacedPackerFan

Comments

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by justanothersteve :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 1:12pm

The first part of the quote from Suh: “I was on top of a guy getting pulled down and trying to get up off the ground,” Suh said during a brief news conference. “That’s why you see me pushing his helmet down. I’m trying to remove myself from the situation. As I’m getting up, I’m getting pushed.” Yes, his pushing the guy's head back into the ground was also someone else's fault just before the stomped on the guy. All after Suh talked to Goodell about his reputation. If there's not a short suspension of a game or two out of this, I'll be shocked.

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by akn :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 3:12pm

If you look, as soon as some GB linemen come toward him to try and pull Suh off, he immediately--like lightning fast immediate--gets up and turns around. And of course he gets in one last shot with the foot stomp as he casually walks away, as if no one would see it.

So, not only dirty, but just a little cowardly as well...

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by Bernie (not verified) :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 1:23pm

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt...maybe he was high on PCP and thought Dietrich-Smith was covered on spiders.

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by akn :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 3:14pm

Or maybe he was trying some sort of weird "tough guy" type of CPR.

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by mebaits (not verified) :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 1:25pm

I'll bet one of the things James Harrison was thankful for on Thanksgiving was Suh.

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by bubqr :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 2:25pm

Suh-gate: I was on the "Suh is just a misunderstood violent, not dirty, player" side. Well...

Those D.Hall lines were really good. And what am I supposed to understand about Osi's quote, that he was invisible last week only because McCoy is negotiating a new contract ? Is Vince Young also in a contract feud ? Because I didn't see him around VY much during the game either. In fact, I didn't see him much around anything resembling a football.

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by parttimemovieguy :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 2:39pm

Weird Al reference FTW!

Go Raiders!

@ptmovieguy

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by IAmJoe :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 3:00pm

My wife gave me a funny look when I burst out laughing at Harvey Danger. Thanks, Dan.

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by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 3:35pm

I am still trying to figure out what folks are talking about when they claim the Packer lineman had Suh wrapped up at some point. I watched the game and highlights and all I saw was Suh slamming the guy's head into the ground before he jumps up and gets in a last lick kick.

If you want a bear huy about Dominic dragging Raji to the ground in the first quarter and then throwing his hands open as if he was just an innocent bystander. There was no flag which is ok by me since nobody knows what constitutes holding anyway.

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by Jerry P. :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 6:52pm

Here you go;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXDmCVSnn1U

Starting at 0:49 you can see the sequence in its' entirety. Watch it while you can because you're never gonna see anything from before 0:54 again once FOX/NFL has YouTube take the clip down.

Also, wasn't a Packer player ejected for punching earlier in the game? I clearly remember the referee saying he was "disqualified" when announcing the penalty. This seems to have been lost in the "drama".

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by DisplacedPackerFan :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 7:23pm

Yeah Pat Lee was ejected because he was still being harassed by the blockers after the whistle and as he was trying to push off his hand bounced off the shoulder pad and open palm hit the Lions helmet. Looked like a punch, ejection was justified.

Suh got beat. You can see Dietrich-Smith had blocked him onto his knees at around 0:50 of the clip you linked. DS may have been technically holding I can't tell when his arm ended up outside. They are tangled, Suh pulls DS down though and rolls on top of him then smashes his head into the ground, he wasn't trying to get up he was trying to push the helmet into the ground, then tries to stomp on him after he is standing. I used to like Suh a lot, I used to defend him on a lot of the calls against him. I can't do it on this one. He was angry and trying to hurt someone after the play was over. He will likely get suspended.

OK I just watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbhZJKtDJNQ (my first paragraph was based on memory). The whistle was blown at around 9 seconds in (or at around 50 seconds during the slow motion replay). Again I'm OK with him getting tossed for that even though it felt a lot more justified. I expect that 32 (Aaron Barry) of the Lions might get fined as well after all that is reviewed. I expect Lee will get fined as well, he hit the helmet a couple of times while fighting the "blocking" (I never know what to call it, gunners get mauled like that during the play all the time I didn't have any problems with what the Lions did except they kept going for a few seconds after the whistle). I'm not sure the open handed push Lee had on Barry was actually aimed at the shoulder or not now, the slow motion replay looks like he was aiming at the head but it's clear his face mask was grabbed too. So again when I saw it live I thought the ejection was OK, the person who retaliates is generally the one that gets the flag.

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by Jerry P. :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 7:41pm

I don't contest a thing you say. I agree on Lee being harassed by the blockers so paragraph three is kind of excessive. Save that energy for raging about DVOA disrespecting the Packers D!

As for Suh I don't really care. If I see two guys going at it and I didn't see what started it then I don't offer an opinion of who is "right" or "wrong". I go "Gee, I'd like to see what caused that." But I guess showing the 2 seconds before Suh is slamming the guys head into the ground was too much context. I was merely responding to the thread starters statement of "still trying to figure out..." I gave him the link to the full play so he can "figure it out" himself. I offered no opinion otherwise.

Here's a topic of discussion for the class. Why is stomping a guys arm so over the line but laughing about "what goes on at the bottom of a pile" is done every single week by former linemen on sports radio and television?

Stomping elbows bad. Grabbing testicles and breaking fingers is just football, guys.

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by akn :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 10:04pm

Foot stomps come with clear evidence and are enforcible.

Under the pile stuff comes from retired linemen reliving the past through unverifiable testimony and are entirely unenforcable.

Don't know how to get enraged about the latter. Unless you want to install new testicle cameras in ever player's jock.

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by Kevin from Philly :: Mon, 11/28/2011 - 9:29am

Brett Favre - ahead of his time?

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by TomC :: Sat, 11/26/2011 - 12:28am

Here's a topic of discussion for the class. Why is stomping a guys arm so over the line but laughing about "what goes on at the bottom of a pile" is done every single week by former linemen on sports radio and television?

"Topic of discussion for the class" == "false dichotomy / strawman that I can knock down to distract attention."

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by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sat, 11/26/2011 - 8:56am

I was going to say thanks until I saw the video which is nothing I had not already seen and then read your response with the use of quotes which are a common means of conveying sarcasm.

Next time, don't bother.

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by Vandal :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 5:32pm

"But is he Scrappy?"

The League reference?

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by Southern Philly :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 6:31pm

Generic scrappy white guy reference.

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by akn :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 6:51pm

I thought "gritty" was more in vogue these days.

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by Southern Philly :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 7:11pm

It's always been "scrappy white guy," preferably short too. Not that they're mutually exclusive, scrappy white guys give gritty performances.

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by Intropy :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 7:49pm

I always heard it as "kind of like Wes Welker."

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by Dired :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 9:28pm

Let's not forget "fan favorite".

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by akn :: Fri, 11/25/2011 - 10:06pm

That's it, I'm calling the next black player I like articulate to restore the balance.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 11/27/2011 - 9:02pm

Don't forget his football intelligence

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by Stats are for losers (not verified) :: Sun, 11/27/2011 - 1:34pm

Good Hands. Deceptively Fast. Great Route-Runner. Real Team Player. Not the Most Athletic Guy Out There.

Nelson's more of a Jurevicius; Welker a Chrebet.

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by Harris :: Sun, 11/27/2011 - 2:44pm

Don't forget, "He's like a coach on the field."

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by Dr. I'm Not Sick But I'm Not Well (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2011 - 12:45pm

I apologize for the Thanksgiving-related delay in my reaction, but I loved the Harvey Danger shout-out.

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by Kevin from Philly :: Mon, 11/28/2011 - 4:49pm

I get it that Nickelback sucks, but why so much hate? I could probably come up with a few dozen bands that'd be even worse halftime entertainment.

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by tuluse :: Mon, 11/28/2011 - 5:08pm

I'm sure there are worse bands than Nickelback. Just as there are worse movies than Twilight. However, there is almost no band that is somehow as wildly popular as Nickelback while also sucking.

So it could be raging against media corporations trying to tell us what we should listen to when we know it sucks. It could be people being tired of being inundated by so much of something that sucks, if they got another band that sucked, even if it was worse, it would at least be something different.

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by Dean :: Mon, 11/28/2011 - 5:46pm

It's also the fact that it was Detroit. What, you couldn't find some noteworthy act to represent Michigan's musical tradition?

Mitch Ryder was booked? What about The Stooges? Bob Segar is old as dirt, but he's out on tour right now. Alice Cooper still knocks 'em dead. Grand Funk Railroad never did, but I'm sure they'd be thrilled to do the gig. Maybe something more recent like Eminem or Kid Rock? Or maybe any of the countless Motown artists? Gladys Knight? Smokey Robinson? Stevie Wonder? The Jackson, uh, 4?

Seriously - you can choose from any act Michigan ever produced, but instead you go to Canada, not for Rush or Neil Young but for Nickelback? WTF???

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by Andrew Potter :: Mon, 11/28/2011 - 6:00pm

This times ten.

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by DisplacedPackerFan :: Mon, 11/28/2011 - 6:24pm

I agree.

Though it is fair to point out that in the lead up stink this caused it was pointed out that Nickelback has sold out every concert they've had in Michigan very quickly, and Michigan was one of their best areas for record sales as well (I think I read it was their best market per capita but I'm too lazy to source that). Basically they are big in Detriot.

But again something actually local would have been better. I was just pointing out the decision wasn't completely stupid, it just wasn't nearly as good as other options.

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by commissionerleaf :: Mon, 11/28/2011 - 7:30pm

That's only because Detroit doesn't have access to .MP3/.MP4/digital music player like technology yet. You have to wait a generation or so for that sort of thing to trickle down to the Third World. Record sales are still high in Detroit because CD players are new and cool there.

Being Canadian might still be cool there too... but I wouldn't know.

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by DisplacedPackerFan :: Mon, 11/28/2011 - 10:39pm

Hehe. Got a chuckle from me.

record sales = album sales which includes digital distribution.

I'm still archaic with some of my terminology. :)