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01 Nov 2013

The Week In Quotes: November 1, 2013

by Rory Hickey

AFTER SOME TIME TO REFLECT ... WAIT, WHAT?

"To be honest, man, you’ve just got to go low now, man. You’ve got to end people’s careers, you know? You’ve got to tear people’s ACLs and mess up people’s knees now. You can’t hit them high no more. You’ve just got to go low." -- Washington Redskins free safety Brandon Meriweather, after returning from his one-week long suspension by the NFL for hitting high (The Washington Times)

"THREE-RECEIVER SETS? WHAT ARE THOSE?" -- COACHES IN THE DAYS GATES IS REFERRING TO

"Everybody’s going across the middle now. Back then, when you went across the middle, you had a little different respect from the game. It’s kind of like, 'Wow, that receiver can go across the middle and make that play. He’s a man's man.'"

"That’s kind of changed now. You see receivers all the time going across the middle and making plays now that back in the day, I don’t know if they would go across the middle and make those same plays." -- San Diego Chargers tight end Antonio Gates, saying that wide receivers do not fear going across the middle (NFL Nation Blog)

A MEGAPRIMETIMEATRON MATCHUP

"Yes, I do. That's just it. Deion has such catch-up speed and he had real good center-field ability, and I mean that ... in [a] football sense. He could really play the ball, and he had such ability to get into position to play the ball."

"Now, you're talking about the greatest cover guy maybe that's played this game. I've seen where he's been declared the greatest cover guy. Hall of Famer. But I do think he could do a real good job on Johnson. Johnson's going to get some probably, but I think he could do a great job. Deion's a great player." -- Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, on whether Hall of Fame cornerback Deion Sanders could cover Detroit Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson (ESPN Dallas)

...SAID A COMPLETELY UNBIASED SOURCE

"I think [Mariota]'ll be a fine quarterback at the [NFL] level, much like a [Colin] Kaepernick-type guy ... better than Carolina's quarterback right now. Cam has never had to work as hard, and I think he is finally now starting to get it and spend time in the classroom with the coaches. A lot of things come really easy to Cam. I think he still thinks he can just go out there and do it. I think Marcus is a combination of the athlete and the student."

"I don't know if he is quite as good a pure passer [as Griffin], but he is a better combination because RGIII is more of a sprinter as opposed to a football runner, and so he puts himself in situations where he can't protect himself." -- Former Oregon head coach Mike Belotti, saying he believes current Ducks quarterback Marcus Mariota will be a better pro quarterback than current Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton (NFL.com)

BRUNELL: EXPERT IN MONEY, EXPERT IN PUBLIC JAGUARS TEA LEAF READINGS

"It wouldn't surprise me; I hate to say it. We have an owner in Shad Khan that bought the soccer team over there, and all indications are that we're headed that way.
"It's not good for Jacksonville. You don't hear a lot of that talk in Jacksonville right now, but everywhere else ... someone mentioned the other day that it's the Jacksonville Jaguars of London."
-- Jacksonville Jaguars ambassador Mark Brunell, on whether he thinks the Jaguars will end up moving to London (Shutdown Corner)

OH NO I THINK LETTING OFFICIALS DECIDE GAMES ARBITRARILY IS GREAT. LET'S LET THEM MAKE UP THEIR OWN AMOUNT OF POINTS FOR EVERY TOUCHDOWN TOO

"No, I think that’s a terrible thing to do. I think it puts too much pressure on the officials to change the game like that. I don’t think that’s the time — the actions that the league took in this case were warranted — exactly. But I think that would be a terrible thing for an official … to put it on a back judge to decide whether to take a touchdown away in a game. It should not be a part of what an official has to call. Throw the flag, do the normal thing, and then take care of business afterward."

"Taking a look at that situation, and just to say it again — that’s not the way we want to present who we are and what we’re all about. It was a mistake that Golden has totally taken accountability for. We wish it wouldn’t have happened for a lot of reasons, and the statement he made and we make about it is clear. There’s no place for that in football. We don’t need that at all. He gets the regular scrutiny he should get, and he’ll take it." -- Seattle Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll, on word that the NFL is now considering adding the college rule which takes touchdowns off the board if taunting penalties are applied on scoring plays (Sports Illustrated)

NOBODY WOULD FOLLOW YOU ANYWAY; THEY'D ALL LEAVE IN THE THIRD QUARTER

"I've never considered joining Twitter, nor do I know why anybody would. There's a lot of people that do and I guess that I'm one of the ones in the minority." -- Alabama head coach Nick Saban, describing his policy on Twitter

"He claims he don’t have one, but he probably does." -- Alabama linebacker C.J. Mosley on Saban’s Twitter policy (Alabama.com)

YOU'LL MAKE A FINE HALL-OF-FAME VOTER ONE YEAR, BEN

"I speak of championships. That’s no disrespect to some of these other guys that are doing some amazing things in the NFL right now. But to me, it’s about wins and championships, and [Tom Brady]’s got more championships than anybody. So to me, he’s the best quarterback in the league, and he’s done it for a long time…. The number one factor is championships." -- Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, on his qualifications for measuring the greatness of a quarterback (Pro Football Talk)

TOMCOUGHLINRODEOCLOWN.TUMBLR.COM

"Well, this is not Tom’s first rodeo. He's been around for a while. The passion that he brings to the table, all of our players can see that. That’s never wavered with him. For him to keep this team together, I think that shows how much respect the players have for him and what he’s done for the organization." -- New York Giants general manager Jerry Reese, crediting head coach Tom Coughlin with the team’s refusal to give up (NY Daily News)

SOUNDS LIKE A PROJECT FOR JON BOIS

"If you could’ve given me LeBron James’ height and a stepladder." -- New York Giants punter Steve Weatherford, when asked if there was anything he could have done to prevent a high snap that resulted in an Eagles’ touchdown (The Record)

HOW DO YOU THINK THE RAIDERS MASCOT GOT AN EYEPATCH?

"It's scary going into that Black Hole. They're really serious about that. You can jump into the stands if you want to, but I don't think you're going to come back out." -- Pittsburgh Steelers cornerback Ike Taylor, on what would happen if someone attempted to do a Lambeau Leap into the Black Hole in Oakland (Pittsburgh Tribune-Review)

YEAH, BUT HE CUSSES AND SCREAMS GRITTILY. HIS CUSSING AND SCREAMING IS QUICKER THAN FAST

"I've seen Tom Brady cuss and scream and do all kind of things but nobody looks at him like that. I just think it's unfair the way we see it and the way the media portrays certain things because of personal feelings about a person." -- Pittsburgh Steelers safety Ryan Clark, calling the criticism of Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant’s sideline theatrics a double standard (ESPN)

HE GUTTILY THREW FOR 145 YARDS AGAINST A PREVENT DEFENSE

"[Ponder] prepared really hard and he went out there and laid it all on the line. You know, you see that last run that he made when things were getting out of reach [a 19-yard touchdown run late in the fourth quarter against the Packers on Sunday] and he’s still out there fighting until the end. I mean, that’s not my decision. But I’d love to see him stay back there, of course." -- Minnesota Vikings center John Sullivan, casting his vote for quarterback Christian Ponder as the next Minnesota Vikings starting quarterback (Minneapolis Star-Tribune)

NOT SHOWN: THE THREE DEEP GASPS OF BREATH HAYNESWORTH TOOK BETWEEN EACH SENTENCE OF THIS QUOTE

"He sounds as stupid as he looks. If the guy had any sense whatsoever: I care about the game of football. I’m not out promoting my socks, I’m not out hollering at cheerleaders and trying to marry them and get divorced in a couple years. That’s just not me. I’m out playing the game of football. You see what happened the years before at Tennessee and what I was about. You don’t get runner-up two years in a row of Defensive Player of the Year, or being in the top five of MVP of the NFL, by just trying to get released. That doesn’t make any sense. He sounds as stupid as he looks. Maybe he should worry about his own personal life and worry about what his wife is doing and all that stuff -– or maybe now I should say what his ex-wife was doing." -- Former Washington Redskin Albert Haynesworth, on former teammate Chris Cooley calling Haynesworth “an awful human being” among other things last week (D.C. Sports Bog)

SOMEONE HAS A NEW THANKSGIVING MOTTO!

"I will say this, so you guys can print all this: Just because you like somebody in the family doesn’t mean you like the whole family. I have a great deal of respect for Brady [Hoke] and his coaching abilities." -- Michigan State head coach Mark Dantonio, on University of Michigan head coach Brady Hoke, in anticipation of Saturday’s interstate rivalry game with Michigan (Dr. Saturday)

BEEP BOOP PEYTONMANNINGBOT5000 MUST RESTART DURING MEETING

"I've never slept through a whole meeting, but I've nodded off. I mean everyone nods off. It's dark in there. You nod off. You wake up — go get something to drink and go back."

"I've done that." -- Washington Redskins tight end Fred Davis, admitting to sleeping during team meetings amid a reduced role on the team (USA Today Sports)

YOU CAN ONLY WITHDRAW $10 A DAY FROM DAVE WANNSTEDT'S MOUSTACHE BEFORE HE WAKES UP

"Yeah, I know him. I tried to recruit him to Pitt. But we couldn't afford him." -- Philadelphia Eagles running back and Pitt alum LeSean McCoy, when asked if he ever crossed paths with Raiders quarterback and fellow Pennsylvania-native Terrelle Pryor (Eye on Football)

WAITER: THERE'S A FLY IN MY SOUP

"Doesn't matter [who you're playing]. If you suck at passing, you suck at passing ... We've just got to figure it out." -- Washington Redskins wide receiver Pierre Garcon, when asked about the Redskins passing offense against the Broncos (NFL.com)

Posted by: Rory Hickey on 01 Nov 2013

33 comments, Last at 25 Jan 2014, 11:25pm by louis vuitton sko

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by drobviousso :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:11am

Ike Taylor: Astrophysicist.

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by TomC :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 2:33pm

++

(Or: I'm an astrophysicist, and I approve this joke.)

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by dbostedo :: Sat, 11/02/2013 - 12:04pm

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by commissionerleaf :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:13am

My two favorites are :

The (shocking) revelation that Roethlisberger wants quarterbacks to be judged by championships rather than, say, being good at football. Or, really, anything except the number of rings their defense bought them.

Garcon. After that one handed out/flat route he hauled in in the game this past week, he gets to say whatever the heck he wants. Peyton Manning was on the sideline thinking "Why the hell did he drop everything I threw him in 2010 if he can catch like that???"

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by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:20am

Believe it or not, his advanced numbers are pretty good, too.

The offense has been Roethlisberger chucking bombs with three guys draped all over him for about 5 years, too.

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by dmstorm22 :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:47am

Ironically, I think 'Teh Ringz' argument hurts Ben. First, because people who believe in that argument love to bring up that Roethlisberger played badly in Super Bowl XL.

More importantly, he has a fine case as a great HOF QB without the ringz. Teh Ringz argument makes him equal to Eli Manning, when by and large he's been better in his career than Eli. He's never had consistent protection, hasn't had a good running game since 2007, and has been really, really good. He's statistically a great QB.

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by Revenge of the NURBS (not verified) :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 3:27pm

To me, the interesting thing about Big Ben making the rings argument is not so much that it happens to favor him. It's what it implies about the way he sees his team, and the game in general. To say that the QB should be judged foremost on championships is to tacitly buy into QB wins, QB head-to-head records, and other similar ideas. It flies in the face of the whole team concept. In a way, it's a backhanded way of claiming disproportionate credit for those Super Bowl wins. And it's especially a head scratcher coming from a guy who so obviously was NOT the reason they won the one against Seattle.

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by Anonymous Coward (not verified) :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 4:36pm

You're reading a little too much into it, maybe he think every player should be judged on championships not just the QBs

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by Intropy :: Sat, 11/02/2013 - 1:42am

I think it's more likely he's picked up Tomlin's habit of heaping inordinate amounts of praise on the next team in their schedule than anything else.

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by Noah of Arkadia :: Sat, 11/02/2013 - 10:39am

I could almost laugh at this. Have you seen what ex-players like Troy Aikman, Phil Simms and so on and so forth think about the game? Players are good at performing their job, but this clearly doesn't entail any great understanding of football in general. I mean, I hardly think there's a magic sauce that turns players into retards when they retire (sorry, Troy et. al., but it's true). I don't believe in magic retard sauce.

In some ways, this applies to coaches too. That's why it's so easy for a smart guy like Belichick to stand out at coaching (and he's clearly as good or better at the tasks the other coaches are good at, too).

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by Purds :: Sat, 11/02/2013 - 12:08pm

Of course, that assumes that one thinks Ben R. is not an idiot already and needs to take a sauce after retiring. He's never struck me as the brightest fellow.

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by dbostedo :: Sat, 11/02/2013 - 12:09pm

Just a little while ago, Desmond Howard was talking about Johnny Manziel and A.J. McCarron. And he said that he didn't understand why people rated Manziel higher, because Manziel and McCarron played each other and McCarron had better stats and won. He claimed that that game was Manziel's chance to show he was better than McCarron.

The lack of ability to adjust for different teams and defenses, and to stop thinking that QBs play against each other, is pretty stunning.

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by JohnD (not verified) :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 4:32pm

Actually, I recall Garçon had some spectacular catches with the Colts. Maddeningly inconsistent hands.

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by buzzorhowl (not verified) :: Mon, 11/04/2013 - 2:23am

Totally. In fact, I was a little concerned when the Redskins picked him up that he'd retain the inconsistency. But honestly, he seems to catch way more than he ever drops these days, which I don't remember being the case when he was with the Colts. That said, I've seen pretty much every Redskins game he's played in, while I saw him play for the Colts in maybe half a dozen games, so this may be small sample size theater on the part of my brain.

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by Jerry :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:18pm

I don't know about you, but I want the players on my favorite team (which happens to include Ben) focused on winning championships, not on their individual stats.

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by dbostedo :: Sat, 11/02/2013 - 12:06pm

I also like players having the general attitude that winning the title is everything, and anything less means you're a failure. But applying that to questions like "who was the better player" doesn't really fit. But they do it all the time.

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by Purds :: Sat, 11/02/2013 - 12:15pm

But that wasn't the question posed to him -- what do you think about when you're playing? He was asked what makes a great QB. And, he gave a ridiculously self-serving response. Other QB's around the league then twitted the following:
"Well, you're not really good until you marry a hot babe who makes more money than you." Tom Brady
"Well, you're not really good until you get released and break the second team's season passing records as well." Peyton Manning
"Well, you're not really good until God sidelines you in the midst of your prime and you need to do some soul searching." Tim Tebow
"Well, you're not really any good unless you can play the game being under six feet tall." Drew Breeze. "Liked" by Doug Flutie
"Well, you're not really any good unless you tear up a knee and come back." RG3. "Liked" by Brady.

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by sundown (not verified) :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:40pm

The best part about Belotti's comment is that he was also absolutely convinced that Akili Smith would take the NFL by storm. I guess to his credit, he never really ran away from that prediction because I heard him say years later after Smith was out of the league that he still couldn't figure out why things hadn't worked for him.

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by arias :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 1:10pm

Shocking seeing as to how in Cincy Smith was known to be lazy and would commonly blow off basics like film study.

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by sundown (not verified) :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:49pm

I read the line where they called Brunell an "ambassador" of the Jags and had to look it up. He actually founded the group so former Jags could help out the team in the community. Do other teams do this? I don't think I've ever seen an official group like that mentioned before. The Jags even have them on the team website.

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by arias :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 1:08pm

When you're a broke ex-Jag do-gooder, wtf else are you going to do with your time?

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by Anonymousse (not verified) :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 2:26pm

I honestly think that Merriweather's quote is the most heavily misinterpreted/misrepresented quote I've seen in a while.

Merriweather isn't the most eloquent guy, but frankly I agree with him. With the way the NFL has ruled things lately, if a safety goes high, he gets penalized. If he hits a guy in the body, there's a chance he slides up the body and still gets penalized, so the only rules-safe thing is to hit guys in the legs, and that's a good way to blow out someone's knees. It's also, coincidentally, a good way to take a knee to the helmet.

I think the sad part here is that some of these guys in the NFL still don't realize that a bad concussion may be more likely to end a guy's career than a blown ACL at this point.

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by tuluse :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 3:14pm

He could not lead with his head an not have any problems, or he could just launch his head right into the other players' knees. I guess the latter is the better solution.

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by Revenge of the NURBS (not verified) :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 4:00pm

Exactly. Meriweather is refusing to see that he has two separate issues -- 1) hitting people in the head, and 2) hitting people WITH his own head. The whole "I guess I have to hit people in the knee" act completely glosses over #2. Cutting down on #2 would probably also cut down on #1 naturally.

He's also just a plain old idiot for not realizing that a guy who already has a reputation for recklessly injuring others, who also is coming off a suspension for his poor tackling technique that injures others, should not be talking about how he's going to inflict more injuries.

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by Noah of Arkadia :: Sat, 11/02/2013 - 10:41am

Yeah, that'll show 'em not to mess with him doing whatever the heck he wants to do.

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The man with no sig

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by PatsFan :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 2:49pm

I don't think Big Bang Clock's quote is misinterpreted at all.

If he didn't already have a well-deserved, repeatedly-demonstrated reputation as a lowlife headhunter I'd be inclined to agree with you.

But he does, and in light of his repeated actions on the field I believe he absolutely is expressing intent to injure in that quote.

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by Jerry :: Fri, 11/01/2013 - 11:21pm

"THREE-RECEIVER SETS? WHAT ARE THOSE?" -- COACHES IN THE DAYS GATES IS REFERRING TO

I think the appropriate question is actually "Penalties for hitting defenseless receivers? What are those?"

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I was thinking the same thing. In fact, it seems to me that going across the middle hasn't really been dangerous since the 1978 rule changes.

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