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16 Oct 2015

The Week In Quotes: October 16, 2015

by Rory Hickey

IT'S HARD OUT THERE FOR A COACH

"That's all media bullcrap. I can tell you how they [the Clemson players] feel about it -- they don't like it. It's a lack of respect. It's not doing your homework and paying attention to what reality is. Bullcrap. People need to quit talking about that. It's like people are trying to push their own agenda out there, and I can't believe I've gotta come in here with a 5-0 football team that just had a great win and have to be talked about 'Clemsoning.'"

-- University of Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney, responding to a reporter's question following a win against Georgia Tech about what the team needs to do to avoid 'Clemsoning,' which is apparently losing games that you should win. (The Post and Courier)

MAYBE WE CAN GET STEVE SPURRIER'S EXPERT OPINION ON WHAT THE REAL 'USC' TRULY IS

"I'm resigning, not retiring."

-- Former University of South Carolina head coach Steve Spurrier, alluding to the fact that he might not be done coaching which, let's be honest, is probably the best possible outcome. (Twitter)

OH, A RECEIVER COMPLAINING ABOUT TOUCHES. WHY I NEVER

"I need the ball at least 10 times -- I need 10 targets -- and I'll be fine with however many yards I get. And that's what I addressed in talking with my agent. We reached out to a couple people and tried to pull some string like, 'Hey, I need my targets. You came up to draft me and I'm not getting targets -- that's a problem. You're making me look bad, and you're making yourself look bad. Why not make both of us look good?'"

-- Buffalo Bills wide receiver Sammy Watkins, telling The Buffalo News that he and his agent have made rumblings to team officials about Watkins' lack of targets. (The Buffalo News)

TAKING ON THE FOOD INDUSTRY? BRADY '16?

"I disagree with a lot of things that people tell you to do. You'll probably go out and drink Coca-Cola and think, 'Oh yeah, that's no problem.' Why? Because they pay lots of money for advertisements to think that you should drink Coca-Cola for a living? No, I totally disagree with that. And when people do that, I think that's quackery. And the fact that they can sell that to kids? I mean, that's poison for kids. But they keep doing it. And obviously you guys may not have a comment on that because maybe that's what your belief system is. So you do whatever you want, you live the life you want. I think we've been lied to by a lot of food companies over the years, by a lot of beverage companies over the years. But we still do it. That's just America, and that's what we've been conditioned to. We believe that Frosted Flakes is a food… You just keep eating those things and you keep wondering why we have just incredible rates of disease in our country. No one thinks it has anything to do with what we put in our body."

-- New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, coming to the defense of his controversial trainer Alex Guerrero by attacking Coca-Cola and Frosted Flakes, two pillars of American society which… I just don't know how to feel about this. (WEEI)

NO, JUST 'OFF' BUTTONS ON PEOPLE'S CABLE BOXES

"It's a day game. There's no light switch they can hit this year."

-- Baltimore Ravens cornerback Jimmy Smith, alluding to the power outage in Super Bowl XLVII between the Ravens and 49ers, who meet again this Sunday, though both teams sit at a disappointing 1-4. (NFL Nation Blog)

BEST BACK I'VE SEEN ALL YEAR -- AND WE'VE PLAYED LAMAR MILLER AND FRANK GORE'S CORPSE!

"He's already the best running back in the league right now. Just watch the tape -- speed, quickness, agility, vision, endurance -- he has it all. He runs really violently, he has great feet, great vision… He's humble… and he doesn't even know how good he can be, and that's the scary part. I remember having a conversation when I first got here with him, and he was like, 'I want to have 1,000 yards. I just want to get there.' I said, 'What?' I said, 'No, the goal's gonna be 1,500 or better.' And now he's there, he's like, 'Man, I see it,' and that's the good thing. I asked him that one day, I said, 'Man do you really know how good you can be?' He's like, 'Man, I really don't.' And I love that humility. And the sky's the limit for him."

-- New York Jets wide receiver Brandon Marshall, talking up teammate Chris Ivory by calling him the best running back in the league. (New York Post)

I'M GLAD MICHAEL IRVIN HAS AN OPINION ABOUT GREG HARDY

"I know a lot of people are mad at this dude, but I was like, 'Oh my God, this is the first game.' To come back in the first game and do what that dude did, that was crazy. I'm sorry everybody and I don't want to be insensitive, but while everybody's mad about the video, we should sign him to a long-term deal now. It was so impressive to see that, it was mind-boggling impressive."

-- Former Dallas Cowboys legend Michael Irvin, talking about new Cowboy Greg Hardy's play in his first game with the team against the Patriots. Irvin says although Hardy comes with baggage, the Cowboys should sign him to a long-term deal. (Pro Football Talk)

MECHANICS? WHAT AM I, A ROBOT? (SHOWS OFF TATTOOS)

"Mechanics are, I'm not huge on them. You can look at [San Diego quarterback] Philip Rivers throw; you can look at [New England's] Tom Brady throw. Looks completely different. They're both great quarterbacks. It is something that I constantly work on, my mechanics, fundamentals, to make sure I'm out there throwing the ball the best way I can. Ultimately, whether the receiver catches the ball and the ball's in the right position is the only thing that matters."

-- San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, declaring that he is not a huge proponent of analyzing mechanics of his throwing motion, citing two quarterbacks who have completely different throwing motions than he does. (CSN Bay Area)

OH SO THERE WAS ONLY SEVEN PEOPLE WHO COULD HAVE NOTICED THAT DID NOT, GREAT

"Because of an error by the clock operator, the game clock was incorrectly started before the Steelers' first play from scrimmage following the touchback. That first down snap came with 2:38 left to play instead of 2:56, a difference of 18 seconds. The official game time is kept on the stadium scoreboard, but it is the responsibility of the side judge to supervise the timing of the game. Had the side judge or any of the other six on-field officials noticed the timing error, they could have corrected it."

-- The NFL's statement, released following Monday night's Steelers-Chargers game in which they admit there was eighteen seconds taken off of the game clock by mistake. It likely did not affect the outcome of the game, but come on guys. (Pro Football Talk)

OH, AND THEN BUFFALO IS THE WORST AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON WASHINGTON, D.C.

"I don't like Matt Stafford that much. [H]e's from Dallas and Dallas, they killed the President. It's where JFK, one of the greatest Presidents, died at so I just have a little hatred towards him."

-- Seattle Seahawks defensive lineman Michael Bennett, explaining why he does not like Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford and also revealing that he hates anyone who is from the Dallas area. (Pro Football Talk)

"He's an a--hole."

-- Chicago Bears tight end Martellus Bennett, responding to his brother Michael's comments on Stafford and JFK. (Detroit Free Press)

"A rich a--hole."

-- Michael Bennett, clarifying but not denying what his brother Martellus had said. (Seattle Times)

AND ANDY DALTON IS A SCORPIO, SO JUST IMAGINE HOW GOOD THE BENGALS WILL BE

"Today's @Bengals winning OT field goal was likely enabled by a 1/3-in deflection to the right, caused by Earth's Rotation."

-- Famed astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, weighing in on Bengals' kicker Mike Nugent's game-winning 42-yard field goal which was aided by a carom off the upright, and the Earth's rotation too apparently. (Twitter)

I MEAN REALISTICALLY, THIS TEAM HAS BEEN 0-16 BEFORE SO 0-5 ISN'T A REASON TO PANIC

"I don't think coach Caldwell has lost the locker room at all. People are looking for a lot of things to blame our record on right now and that's not it at all. We just need to be a little bit better and I'll continue to say we have a really, really good team with a bunch of really good players, great organization, great fan base, great coaches. We just need to get rid of those simple mistakes and make a few more plays and I think we're going to do that this week. This is the week that we need to get it done and we're going to find a way to get it done."

-- Detroit Lions wide receiver Golden Tate, claiming that though the Lions sit at 0-5, head coach Jim Caldwell has not lost the respect or attention of the players in the locker room. (NFL Nation Blog)

(TOMLIN BRINGS MIKE McCOY A DEAD FISH DURING POSTGAME HANDSHAKE)

"It was time to go to the mattresses."

-- Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, referencing a line from The Godfather when asked about his decision to run for the game-winning touchdown rather than kick a potential game-tying field goal on the road. The mattress in the case was running back Le'Veon Bell. (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette)

HOT TAKE: DAILY FANTASY SPORTS IS REALLY STUPID

"What? Hey, man, I've got to start collecting my money from these guys. If I'm on your team and I'm making you money, I need a paycheck for that. Help me out, man!"

-- Green Bay wide receiver Randall Cobb, after being informed that the highest-ranked Daily Fantasy Sports player made about 10 times as much money as Cobb on a recent weekend when Cobb scored three touchdowns in a game. (The MMQB)

THIRTY YEARS FROM NOW: 'SO ERIC, HOW'D YOU GET INTO REAL ESTATE?'

"I still have a house in New Jersey in case you're looking to buy one. I also have one in Ohio and I've got one in Cape Cod. I'm collecting houses. I've got the ones in New Jersey and Ohio rented out, which is good, but I didn't set out to be a landlord. But this profession kind of makes you one."

-- San Francisco 49ers defensive coordinator Eric Mangini, on his real estate collection, and how being a well-traveled coach in the NFL makes you somewhat of a landlord. (New York Post)

Posted by: Rory Hickey on 16 Oct 2015

41 comments, Last at 14 Dec 2015, 9:06pm by kimkom

Comments

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by Steelerdan :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 2:31pm

Leveon bell is a man

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by Ryan :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 2:36pm

This whole shtick of turning a noun into a verb to describe a mundane action ("Tebowing," "Kaepernicking," and now "Clemsoning") is way, way beyond tired. Just about as bad as "Oh, [Person X] being [Person X]."

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by Will Allen :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 2:59pm

Even beyond that, which I agree with, the question itself is just the act pf an unprofessional journalist, trying to stupidly troll the interview subject. Extremely tiresome.

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by mehllageman56 :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 2:57pm

As a writer I disagree with that; it's one of the main ways the language can change. I'd gripe that the word is not accurate; Clemson has the second longest streak in the country of beating unranked team by double digits. They keep getting destroyed by really good teams, the games they're supposed to lose.

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by TGT :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 2:52pm

Tebowing, Kaepernicking, and Clemsoning are nouns.

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by mehllageman56 :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 2:58pm

You're right, didn't think about that.

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by bsims :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 3:46pm

I think they're actually gerunds, which means they could be function as either a verb or a noun.

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by jtr :: Sat, 10/17/2015 - 2:37pm

This is why FO is the best. You don't see any discussions about gerunds on PFT!

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by robbbbbb :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 2:56pm

Michael Bennett is the best. The Week in Quotes should keep tabs on him regularly, because this week's batch is par for the course.

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by Will Allen :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 2:58pm

It isn't ideal to trade a ton of draft value, to move up to the top of the 1st round, to grab a guy who in short order starts endeavoring to be as large an A-hole as possible, in order to force a trade. I hate to stereotype positions, but I really think I'be be wary of drafting any wide receiver that high, much less trade up to get him. Yeah, you might miss on Randy Moss, but in the long run you might come out ahead.

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by robbbbbb :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 3:07pm

Even better. You can let someone else draft the next Randy Moss, and then you can buy him at a discount in several years when his behavior has made him toxic.

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by Independent George :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 3:31pm

As a general rule, I think it's only worth trading up to the top of the first round if:

1. There is a can't-miss QB prospect (with all the usual caveats about can't-miss QB prospects) sitting right there.
2. You're already either a Super Bowl contender or just a few players short of being a Super Bowl contender.

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by jtr :: Sat, 10/17/2015 - 2:47pm

On top of all of that, they did so a) when they didn't have a QB to throw to him b) in a draft that was famously deep in WR talent. Incredibly boneheaded move, and now they're REALLY not getting value from him with Rex's famous aversion to passing plays--they're currently ranked 31st in percentage of offensive plays that are passes. If they can really get a high pick in return for him, maybe Buffalo should send Watkins somewhere he'll be happier.

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by mehllageman56 :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 3:02pm

Skipped over the Brady comment at first. Can someone help me out with context? What's Guerrero accused of?

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by Will Allen :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 3:12pm

Along with being Tawwmmy's favorite nutritionist, he's a snake-oil quack, selling "special" bottled water as a concussion and cancer treatment.

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by Anon Ymous :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 8:12pm

It may be worth your while to listen to this interview with a business partner at the time.

http://media.weei.com/a/110013072/scott-sarver-associate-of-alex-guerrer...

And there is this as well.

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/curran-who-alex-guerrero-heres...

Guerrero clearly made mistakes, but the picture painted of him doesn't appear to be entirely accurate.

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by Will Allen :: Sat, 10/17/2015 - 12:00am

Yes, yes, mistakes were made. I really don't know how the picture can be painted any worse than what was described in the 1st interview. Willingly reading a script where you plainly lie about the healing power of swill you are selling makes you about as reprehensible as you can be, short of violent criminality.

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by Anon Ymous :: Sat, 10/17/2015 - 12:31am

You apparently have never been a victim of your own youthful naivety or followed bad advice. Sometimes it is helpful to understand that most other humans aren't so flawless.

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by Will Allen :: Sat, 10/17/2015 - 11:19am

I've done all manner of crappy stuff. That doesn't change the fact that willfully lying to people, often very frightened, desperate people,about the healing qualities of stuff you are selling them, because you want to get their money, is an extraordinarily reprehensible action. Do you really think this is subject to debate?

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by Noah Arkadia :: Sat, 10/17/2015 - 11:42am

I'm not reading that interview, but did he really lie willfully or did he believe in what he was saying? I don't care what most intelligent people think, a lot of things are quackery or sci-fi one day and science the next and there's nothing wrong with being ahead of the curve if you know what you're doing. Then again a liquid to prevent concussions? That really is too much.

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Who, me?

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by Will Allen :: Sat, 10/17/2015 - 2:39pm

The friend being interviewed supposedly is sympathetic to him, and even he says the claims being put forth were knowing lies, and Guerro never once objected to putting forth the claims he was scripted to put forth.

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by Anon Ymous :: Sat, 10/17/2015 - 3:40pm

No, what is subject to debate is whether an action defines who someone is years later, particularly when you were persuaded into your earlier mistake. The world isn't black and white, Will.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Sat, 10/17/2015 - 4:23pm

He got banned by the FTC for selling Supreme Greens in 2004 when he was persuaded into the youthful indiscretion of marketing lies. Then he got banned by the FTC from selling NeuroSafe in 2012 because they concluded there was no scientific evidence to support his claims that it helps concussion recovery.

People can be willing to accept that you made a youthful indiscretion or mistake, if firstly you appear contrite and more importantly if you don't then do the same thing a few years later. (Tyson Gay can learn from this).

Put it this way if I'd been caught for marketing an unscientifically backed product I would be doing my utmost to ensure my next product did meet the standard, or not making any such claims.

Actually it seems to me that all he learned is how make a pile of money very quickly.

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by Anon Ymous :: Sat, 10/17/2015 - 4:28pm

NeuroSafe is the one I find more troubling, though there is less evidence that he knew his claims were inaccurate.

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by jtr :: Sun, 10/18/2015 - 11:49am

A lack of evidence that it doesn't work isn't the same as having evidence that it DOES work. Considering that "magical kool-aid powder that prevents concussions" is going to set off any reasonable adult's bullshit alarm, there's no excuse for peddling that stuff without it first meeting a scientific level of proof of effectiveness.

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by Will Allen :: Sat, 10/17/2015 - 9:36pm

Didn't say it was. I said it was reprehensible, to the point that the only thing that would be worse is criminal violence, to knowingly tell lies to frightened, desperate, people, regarding the healing powers of stuff you are selling, in order to defraud frightened, desperate people.

No, I don't really think being a young adult mitigates such behavior at all.

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by Will Allen :: Sat, 10/17/2015 - 12:00am

Yes, yes, mistakes were made. I really don't know how the picture can be painted any worse than what was described in the 1st interview. Willingly reading a script where you plainly lie about the healing power of swill you are selling makes you about as reprehensible as you can be, short of violent criminality.

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by Will Allen :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 3:09pm

Ol' Tawwmmy really has the defense strategy down. Accusation of a pal peddling quackery, in the form of concussion-prevention water? Start ranting about how people eat too much processed sugar!

I expect The Patriot Faithful will building giant bonfires, with boxes of Tony the Tiger's favorite food, the night before the next Patriots home game! They'll start dumping all the city's Coca Cola into Boston Harbor, until someone screams, "Wotta' 'bout the FISH!!!!"

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by mehllageman56 :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 3:19pm

Nah, they can just pour it on Mangini's Cape Cod place, specifically the lawn.

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by Will Allen :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 3:22pm

No doubt followed by Bob Kraft lobbying to have the lawn declared an EPA superfund site.

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by nat :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 3:28pm

Have a Coke and try to relax a little bit.

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by Will Allen :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 3:54pm

What!? Drink that veritable Sweat of Satan?!! You Pats fans are diabolical!

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by nat :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 4:26pm

You look at me, Will. Eh? Look, eh? And I drink a lot of Coke, you know. I'm what you might call a Coke man, Will- that's what I am. And I can swear to you, my boy, swear to you, that there's nothing wrong with my bodily fluids. Not a thing, Willie.

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by jds :: Mon, 10/19/2015 - 10:51am

Nat, were you ever a prisoner of war?

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by Noah Arkadia :: Tue, 10/20/2015 - 5:50pm

That was from Dr. Strangelove. I thought for a sec it was a Pulp Fiction line.

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Who, me?

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by LionInAZ :: Tue, 10/20/2015 - 11:29pm

If you're wrong, you're going to have to answer to the Coca-Cola Company!

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by Noah Arkadia :: Wed, 10/21/2015 - 8:48am

Heh. Actually I'll have to answer to the previous poster, since I just realized his reply was also from Dr. Strangelove... need to rewatch that.

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by young curmudgeon :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 6:00pm

When Tomlin makes reference to "Leave the gun...take the cannoli," then things could get interesting.

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by Will Allen :: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 6:30pm

Tell me Luca Brasi didn't look like an offensive line coach.

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by Kevin from Philly :: Sun, 10/18/2015 - 5:57pm

If somebody on the team gets MRSA, are they going to exterminate the locker room?

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by kimkom :: Mon, 12/14/2015 - 9:06pm

It may be worth your while to listen to this interview with a business partner at the time.
http://ozomakan.webnode.com/
http://jokojulian.blog.com/
http://barcafood.eklablog.com/