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08 Dec 2017

The Week In Quotes: December 8, 2017

by Cale Clinton

GRONK CLEARS THE AIR

"First of all I definitely want to apologize to No. 27. I'm not in the business of that. It was a lot of frustration and I was just really frustrated at that moment. It just happened naturally through emotions and frustration. Just want to apologize to Tre'Davious White. I just don't understand why there wasn't a flag (for DPI). It was a couple times in the game, and they're calling me for the craziest stuff ever. And it's crazy, like what am I supposed to do? And then they don't call that. It was just frustration."

-- New England Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski formally apologizes for his dirty hit after the whistle on Buffalo Bills cornerback Tre'Davious White. (Jeff Howe, Twitter)

APOLOGY NOT ACCEPTED

"Guy did what he wanted to do, man. He did what he did. Dirty shot. (Mumbles.) Dirty player. Simple."

-- White, on his reaction to Gronkowski's hit.

"Nothing. I don't want to hear nothing from him."

-- White, on what he has heard from Gronkowski since the hit.

"Man, it's a joke. I mean, I'm lying there and he snuck me with my back turned. He could've broke my neck. I have a son to raise. People don't think about that when they just react. … His intentions were to hurt me, but that's what happens when you ball and they don't like that."

-- White, saying Gronkowski deserved more than a one-game suspension. (Buffalo Bills, Twitter)

SEXY REXY GETS PUT ON BLAST

"I did see one of my ex-coaches say he didn't want me to be his quarterback. That really upset me. I saved his job in 2013. We fought our ass for him both years. For him to say that shows how much of a coward he is."

-- New York Giants quarterback Geno Smith rips former head coach Rex Ryan, who said he wouldn't want Smith as a quarterback when it was announced that Smith would take over for Eli Manning last week. (Rob Glauber, Twitter)

URINE HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN RENAMED DING-DING SAUCE. ALL OTHER NAMES ARE INCORRECT

"I'm sorry, though, look. It's either this, or that, and I can't afford that. I apologize. But if you do not understand what this is, it's when you put your ding-ding sauce out and give them a sample."

-- Oakland Raiders running back Marshawn Lynch announces to the media he won't be speaking to them due to a drug test. In the process, he renames what we commonfolk call "urine." (CBS Sports)

GETTIN' LOOSE IN THE WASHINGTON LOCKER ROOM

"Prior to the game, on our way, we would take a little shot. ... Not like going out and getting sloppy wasted; just adrenaline. You know, you take a shot and you were done with it. Me, [Santana Moss] and [Sean Taylor], we did this for a year and a half before anybody knew. We never told anybody. It was just, hey, here's a little sip, bam, that was it."

-- Former Washington Redskins running back Clinton Portis reveals that he would drink Hennessy with teammates before games during his time in Washington. (Bleacher Report)

THE SHAZIER INJURY PUTS THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE

"Each game, these men make a choice to take the field and (most) pray for a safe game. Laying on the field without feeling in your limbs is never in the cards. I know the feeling all too well [Ryan Shazier]. Praying for you bro."

-- Former Dallas Cowboys defensive end DeMarcus Ware is forced to take an honest look at football following the injury to Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker Ryan Shazier. (DeMarcus Ware, Twitter)

"Football is NOT a contact sport. Ballroom dancing is a contact sport. Football is a violent collision sport. Hate to see all these injuries."

-- Seattle Seahawks wide receiver Doug Baldwin emphasizes that referring to the hits in football as simple "contact" is a bit of a misnomer. (Doug Baldwin, Twitter)

IN THE DEFENSE OF FOOTBALL

"At the end of the day, this is football. If you want to see flag football, then let's take our pads off. That'll make it easier for me. Now I don't gotta wear heavy sh*t. But give us flags for me to pull off so that way I know what we're playing. You know, I signed up to play full-speed contact football, and we're not doing that. I feel like I gotta ask a guy, 'Hey, are you ready for me to hit you right now?' before I hit you. And that's crazy. I'm not going to mess around and get hurt trying to protect an offensive player because he's running an over route. Dammit, your quarterback shouldn't have thrown that ball and messed up. That happened two years ago. I'm not joking at all. Andy Dalton threw a ball to Tyler Eifert two years ago. Tyler Eifert has to dive for it. I was aiming for his gut. But if he don't dive, he don't get it in the head. That's $50,000 out of my pocket because Andy throws a bad ball. Make that make sense. And at first you're taking our money, but now I've got assh*les like Matt Hasselbeck calling me a dirty player and trying my character, and we've never met before. I donate more money to Cincinnati's under-privileged kids than probably the people on the Bengals. So don't give me that name. My nephew goes to school there, man, I take all that personally. If you don't know me, if you've never had a conversation with me, don't judge us off of what you see in football because football is my competitive side. You know what I'm saying? So there's just so much going on in the game right now, I've got to say I'm a little flustered, but -- I mean we just gotta do better. We gotta do better as I said yesterday. We gotta do better as players when we sign the next CBA. We gotta get better leadership as who's running the league because obviously everyone from fans to owners, players, all disappointed in Roger Goodell. We just gotta do better. We can't have a guy where you just hand out discipline on how you see fit. There needs to be a set guideline of how we do what we do."

-- Pittsburgh Steelers safety Mike Mitchell goes on a lengthy tirade about the hard-nosed nature of football and how the media tends to demonize that. (Mark Kaboly, Twitter)

FIRST IMPRESSIONS ARE EVERYTHING

"Steve Spagnuolo was my coach for one day. he said one thing to me. "Hey! Tuck your damn shirt in." And then he cut me after that one day. Has nothing to do with anything, I'm just still kinda salty."

-- Former NFL wide receiver Andrew Hawkins recalls the time he and Steve Spagnuolo crossed paths on the St. Louis Rams. (Andrew Hawkins, Twitter)

WHY DOESN'T EVERY TEAM JUST RUN THIS

"Well, if we take the ball, you know what's going to happen at the end of the half, right? They're going to have six minutes left, they're going to use all of the clock, and then they're going to get the ball [again to start the second half] and we'll be on the sideline and they've got a chance to have two scores without us touching the ball."

-- Miami Dolphins head coach Adam Gase discusses the dreaded New England Patriots "double score" prior to their Week 14 matchup. (CBS Boston)

WINE 'EM, DINE 'EM, SCREW 'EM OVER IN DEFLATEGATE HYSTERIA

"Maybe he can take me out to dinner some time."

-- New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady hopes Roger Goodell will treat him to a nice meal after Goodell's new $200 million deal. (Jim Gray Show)


THIS WEEK IN SOCIAL MEDIA

LIFE COMES AT YOU FAST

-- Jacksonville Jaguars punter Brad Nortman breaks down his "pass" attempt on a botched extra point attempt against the Indianapolis Colts on the Pat McAfee Show. Nortman did complete a pass for 29 yards on a fake punt earlier in the game.

QUIT LIVING IN THE PAST

-- Jacksonville Jaguars cornerback Jalen Ramsey calls out the media for living in the past when they reference the pedigree of the Seattle Seahawks in a locker room interview

SHOUTOUT TO GOOD GUY JOHNNY HEKKER

-- Los Angeles Rams punter Johnny Hekker and his wife went out and bought supplies for those forced out of their homes due to the wildfires in Los Angeles

TAKING TROLLING TO NEW HEIGHTS

-- A Georgia fan is driving around Atlanta with a television tied to the back of his Hummer. What's plaguing on the television? Just the SEC Championship game from last week, which saw Georgia win big over Auburn.

A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE YOU LEFT, HERM

Herm Edwards was just hired to coach at ASU and apparently hasn't seen a college jersey in 20 years @lacesoutshow

A post shared by Barstool Heartland (@barstoolhrtland) on

-- Arizona State head coach Herm Edwards is baffled by the size of the jersey he is presented with honoring his new starting coach gig.

Posted by: Cale Clinton on 08 Dec 2017

7 comments, Last at 09 Dec 2017, 11:40pm by scraps

Comments

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by JohnxMorgan :: Fri, 12/08/2017 - 7:28pm

than to use his apology to complain about how unfairly he was treated. Even when he was nominally apologizing, he was mostly stressing that the thing he did and no one made him do was not really how we should judge him. Criminal logic, that.

But, in fact, I don't see any point in which he apologized. I don't know when our culture came to accept the phrase "I want to apologize" for apology, which is really a passive aggressive tour de force if you think about it, but that's not an apology. An apology, as one might guess, doesn't typically have the word "apology" in it. It typically goes something like "I am sorry. I was wrong. I made a mistake. I am at fault. etc." It resolves the tension by choosing to lose the argument, because though the person apologizing doesn't want to lose the argument, they're aware that they're wrong and willing to accept culpability. It's an act of humbling oneself, losing face, atoning for an action one genuinely understands was wrong.

If Gronk said "I made a mistake and I regret it" especially if that message was directed to the victim rather than the media, maybe White wouldn't have dismissed it so totally. I mean there's little more perfunctory and insincere than the "I want to apologize" press conference, except maybe the "I want to apologize" press conference which in fact contains no admission of guilt but which is replete with qualifiers, counter-accusations and rationalizations.

That Gronkowski actually fit in the phrase "What am I supposed to do?" really takes the cake. Not concuss a prone opponent clearly out bounds, no matter how poorly the game is being officiated, is what you're supposed to do. And, if you do something really despicable like that anyway, you make sure it's known, especially to the person whose brain you damaged, that you know you screwed up and you're genuinely sorry.

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by Guest789 :: Fri, 12/08/2017 - 7:34pm

"What am I supposed to do? NOT dive at the back of a guy's neck while he's facedown on the ground? Come on, be reasonable.".

Smh Gronk. Lost a lot of respect for him.

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by Scott P. :: Fri, 12/08/2017 - 10:34pm

Okay, I use "I want to apologize" all the time when I apologize. I also say "I'd like to apologize." That's perfectly fine. Let's not parse this too finely.

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by scraps :: Sat, 12/09/2017 - 11:40pm

But you probably proceeded to actually apologize. Gronk did not.

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by PatsFan :: Sat, 12/09/2017 - 12:07am

Yeah, that was a pretty pathetic "apology".

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by JohnxMorgan :: Fri, 12/08/2017 - 8:01pm

This is the sport. Blaming the people who are suffering and soon to be suffering the devastating consequences of the sport is hypocritical and worse. Goodell has successfully convinced fans that some form of the modern game of football is safe, and that without the actions of a few bad actors, players would not have to live with the consequences of broken bodies and damaged brains. Referring to certain hits as "dirty," not only shifts attention away from the innate dangerousness of the sport, it shifts blame. Can a hit be dirty? Yes. Is that occasional ugly moment essentially a tempest in a teapot? Research into the causes of CTE argue very strongly "yes."

People watch boxing. People watch MMA. It is possible to enjoy a sport and be honest about the terrible cost. If you grew up poor, like I grew up poor, it is relatively easy to see how the inherent risk may be nevertheless worth it. Class mobility is pretty limited at best, and often contingent on the luck of talent and a willingness to deeply sacrifice.

Roofers, delivery drivers, construction works are all disproportionately drawn from the poor and working class. Their jobs are much more dangerous than playing football. The rate of fatality of course is much higher, but if you've ever worked a labor job, you know that many are sure to injure the body either through repetition or mistake. Plus they're low-paid, often without benefits, and have few assurances of steady work. This, for many who now play in the NFL, is their potential job market. And no one really cares.

Goodell has accurately determined that people are not rationally concerned about the welfare of others, only irrationally guilty when someone is actually hurt before their eyes. Doing something that, in part, they're doing for our entertainment. So he's figured out a scheme which blames the victim, exploits that blame to both recoup salary and score good publicity, created the totally inaccurate semblance of progress toward a goal, and bit by bit convinced people that the problem is dirty hits and concussions, when research argues cogently and without deviation that the many sub-concussive hits inherent to the game do the most damage. Little wonder he's so valuable.

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by Alternator :: Sat, 12/09/2017 - 8:00pm

I'd like to point out that delivery drivers do not always belong on that list - both USPS and UPS pay middle-class wages, and at least USPS offers outstanding benefits.

A mailman with sixteen years on the job (roughly, the pay steps aren't actually a year) takes home slightly more than sixty thousand in base pay, plus the assorted benefits of a federal employee. Freshly promoted to full time, he'll take home a bit over 42k, and even when still the starting-out part time position, he makes something like $17 an hour.

UPS pays similarly, and I think offers pretty good benefits as well. (FedEx employees get the shaft). Other dedicated delivery services probably pay pretty well, too; it's only pizza drivers and the like that are universally boned.