SITE NEWS: Next Gen KUBIAK Preseason Fantasy Projections Now Available!

Attention Football Outsiders readers: The Next Gen KUBIAK fantasy football application is now available!

Just like in past years, you can get Football Outsiders' KUBIAK preseason fantasy football projections customized to your league's rules and constantly updated throughout the preseason. However, the Next Generation is now ONLINE! No longer will you need to have Microsoft Excel in order to use the Football Outsiders KUBIAK application. No longer will you need to download updates over and over every time we change our projections.

The new Next Gen KUBIAK application allows you to save multiple leagues with multiple sets of rules. Switch between them easily. One league PPR and one league without? We'll track them both. Do you do a 2-QB league with eight teams and a 1-QB league with 12 teams? We'll track them both. You can incorporate Football Outsiders' Risk projections (Green, Yellow, or Red) or leave them out. You can incorporate Playoff Adjustments that give more weight to Weeks 14-16, or leave them out. We'll even track inflation in your auction so you know how keepers or players drafted early have affected the auction value of the players still left to be drafted.

Our standard view compares the rank in KUBIAK fantasy points over position baseline to the average draft position in drafts at ESPN, Yahoo, and around the Web. Plus, an expanded positional view lists the actual stat projections for each player along with projected DVOA for "skill position" players.

Please note IDP projections, which are usually included with our KUBIAK fantasy football projections, are coming in early August. We're still finalizing the functionality so you can customize the specific IDP rules of your league. Also coming in early August: print functionality so you can print off your KUBIAK cheat sheet and take it to your draft without having to take your laptop or tablet.

You can get access to the new Next Gen KUBIAK application through the Football Outsiders store. Or check out our storefront and get KUBIAK as part of one of our three combined premium packages that also include premium stat access and Football Outsiders Almanac 2019.

If you want to see how the new Next Gen KUBIAK application works, you can check out this demo using the 2017 projections and play around with it for free.

Do you have feedback about the new Next Gen KUBIAK application? Please contact us to let us know.


51 comments, Last at 26 Aug 2019, 11:07pm

1 Man...I had a process for…

Man...I had a process for the last few years with the spreadsheet and a few of my own macros that allowed manual adjustments and print formatting. I'm guessing the spreadsheet isn't going to be an option at all from here forward?

Change is scary.

2 Re: spreadsheet

The KUBIAK web app does allow you to download the projections as a CSV, so I think you should be able to do your customary manipulation that way.

6 I saw that.  I just need to…

In reply to by Scott Spratt

I saw that.  I just need to manually check and make sure it's copy/paste into the old format column by column by column, otherwise that's a significant amount of work.

3 Can I not see a master list…

Can I not see a master list of all players regardless of position? It looks like I can only view the rankings for a single position at a time.

7 Re: There should be a "see all…

Ahh, missed this at first blush. Useful. Would be cool if in the detailed view all positions could be viewed also (though don't know if you guys are running into excess data issues in attempting this.)

Broad strokes, update looks cool, look fwd to the upcoming tweaks. Thanks for all the great work as always fellas...

5 Where are targets in the projection

Overall, don't like the upgrade... the previous version was fully integrated into my draft boards, but I'll adjust for that. However, why are their no projected targets - perhaps I'm missing them?. This is a key indicator and a stat that never should have been removed, if it in fact was. You had a great product, it won't be improved by removing a critical KPI. Thanks.

11 Targets

Aaron, I appreciate the reply... they aren't in the csv download. That's my main concern. Your willingness to address is appreciated and I will await the update.

12 We do need to add targets to…

In reply to by tgallagan

We do need to add targets to both the .csv file and the web app ... but for now, if you've got the .csv file, you can divide receptions by catch rate to calculate targets.

13 Mislabeled header

Vincent and Aaron, I did the calc, which is perfect, and they are actually in the file, labeled as Pass, which I assume is passes. I'd suggest changing the column header, it's obviously a tad confusing.

10 I sent a comment via the…

I sent a comment via the link in the web app, but one thing that the current version doesn't allow is inputting a decimal in the "per" field for receiving yards. My main league gives one point for every 7.5 receiving yards (we like this more than 0.5 PPR), but I currently have to enter "8" in that field, or else it won't let me submit the scoring settings.

14 Missing Columns in CSV

Maybe I'm missing them, but I don't see FO Fantasy Points, FPOB, Overall Rank, Position Rank, and all of the ADP Deltas in the CSV file.

23 Gotta throw my hat into the …

Gotta throw my hat into the "disappointed" pile as well. Having that info available in Excel was real helpful for me in developing graph charts for tiers (me no good with numbers, need pictures). 

I understand however that to completely replicate Excel in... less than a year(?) and in a web app to boot is a daunting task. I hope the FO staff can give a roadmap (plans, not promises) into what will be implemented in the future.

26 My workaround is to copy…

My workaround is to copy/paste the values from the website table into an Excel spreadsheet. If you need more of the raw data, you can also copy/paste the expanded view (since the rows will match) or download the CSV and use a vlookup to match on player names.

I'm pasting into an unformatted "Data" tab, and then referencing those values in other tabs so that my tables update with a minimum of fuss.

EDIT: I've realized that you can't simply copy/paste the expanded view and match it to the summary, since the expanded view only shows one position (e.g. RB) at a time. So a vlookup with the CSV is the best way to go.

24 There is a column called …

There is a column called "AJD FANT" (column AF), which appears to be giving the raw score calculated for your fantasy league settings, but the points-over-baseline column is missing.

15 Okay, so I'm comparing…

Okay, so I'm comparing calculations in the web tool with calculations I do on the csv and they don't quite match. My best guess right now is that "FUM" is total fumbles, not fumbles lost, and you're estimating fumbles lost as roughly (or exactly?) half of fumbles. If that's not it, I'm not sure where the discrepancies are. You probably explain this somewhere, but I haven't seen it.

18 The old spreadsheet would…

The old spreadsheet would show which players' stats were based on partial seasons, through suspensions or injuries, and the tool would fill in the rest with a replacement-level performance. Is there a way to see what's happening with that in the new tool (and in the CSV)? The CSV doesn't list games played.

20 This will be noted. Right…

This will be noted. Right now there are no such players which require being listed with partial replacement-level performance. (We had this in there for Tyreek Hill but then the league decided not to suspend him.) The .csv doesn't list games played because our projections have never listed games played in the past.

19 Need more functionality

I am unsure why you've done away completely with the Excel for those of us who have used this for years. You've already mentioned the limitation of the CSV version. You should make the Risk factors customizable as I would adjust these on my preferences in both ferreting out players to target and prepare my draft board accordingly. Will try the new format this year but, as an consderably long-term FO member, I am a little disappointed by this.

21 I had the same issue, so I…

I had the same issue, so I went ahead the other day and built a macro-enabled Excel tool from scratch that basically does what the old one did, with some more flexibility/functionality, and works with the new csv format. I'd be happy to share with a few folks to test it out and give me feedback. I would send it without projections included, since you need to buy those from FO, but the tool imports the downloaded csv file. If interested, contact me at gmail: jdkapow. I'm not charging anything, but if FO thinks this is solicitation or just bad form and deletes, c'est la vie.

22 Grouping WR and TE

)In leagues where we group WR with TE, when I click that box in the web app, it appears to be setting the baseline at -1000 (so Hopkins FP over baseline is -775. It works fine in my tight-ends-separate leagues, so something is wrong with that switch. I sent feedback.

Also, ye olde Excel spreadsheet had a baseline tab, which was informative (to me). Is that information available through the app (other by calculating it yourself)?

25 KUBIAK updates

We'll be keeping track of all KUBIAK updates with this thread:

The first update includes the first player (A.J. Green) with a "replacement level" adjustment, as noted in comments 18 and 20 above.

31 New Format

I just wanted to say the new format rocks. So much better, well done!

33 Way to highlight desired players

You might add a feature so that you can target/highlight certain players within the online ASP rather than having to download the CSV and marking that up.

34 Odd scoring system doesn't fit - Need up to -200 for defense

I am giving the new app a shot after using the Excel macros for years.

In filling in the scoring for defenses, it limits to +/- 99.9 for defenses. I need to be able to put in up to -175. Yeah, we have a unique scoring system, but we like it. It's evolved over 20+ years. Any chance the limit checking on the app could be changed to accept +/-200 for defensive points allowed?

I suppose I can scale it down by a factor of 10 and just multiply it back up when I export it to something I can use on draft day.

37 web formatting

I cannot scroll correctly on my laptop. It doesn't let me see anything below the bottom of the welcome screen on the league setup tabs.

38 additional tab info

one thing i liked about the spreadsheet in previous years that i can't seem to find anywhere in the new format is the additional tabs that showed things like TOP BYE WEEK CHOICES and FANTASY DEFENSE PAIRINGS for example. Are you still putting that out for kubiak purchasers anywhere?

51 Update?

Any update on this? I've got my first draft coming up tomorrow and I've always relied on this.

Have to take all the small edges you can get.

39 Has anybody played with the…

Has anybody played with the FO Auction value amounts? I'm in a dynasty league, with an auction for unprotected players. Looking at QB's in our league, most of the good QB's have been frozen, except the old guys: Brady, Rivers, Roethlisberger and Brees. The "Auction Value Current" for each of those players is slightly *lower* than the "Original" value. There will likely be 6 teams in our league bidding for those 4 players, so I expect some (or all) of those 4 guys to go for much *higher* values.

I've never used any other tools for calculating auction values like this. But does it seem logical that the prices would be so low?

40 iPhone compatibility?

In previous years I’ve always printed out the excel sheet because it’s easier to mark off players and view content than on the iPhone which can be a pain.

Is the new web app formatted for PC only, or does it also have formatting for smart phones. A big thing is being able to quickly delete players that have been drafted so I only view available players.

41 PC only.  If you try to use…

PC only.  If you try to use it on mobile, you will get a message that says "KUBIAK is best viewed on large devices.  Please use a larger screen for best viewing experience."


You have to force "Desktop Site" on your phone in order to get the KUBIAK data, which makes the text very small so that you have to zoom in to read it.

47 print

You can print from the web app (top right corner, green button), may not be exactly what you need but it has what I do.

42 If I choose the "Download…

If I choose the "Download CSV" option, does this also bring down the "mark as drafted" or "drafted price" statuses? I can't find those columns on the spreadsheet.

44 Doesn't align with Yahoo rules

Any particular reason why the league settings in KUBIAK don't align with the Yahoo! league defaults? For example, our league counts offensive fumbles as -1 and fumbles lost as another -1, but KUBIAK only lets you count whole fumbles, on the offensive side. But on the defensive side, it differentiates between fumbles forced and fumbles recovered, which Yahoo (unfortunately) does not allow...

Also, how does one tell it that the FLEX position can include a TE, without grouping TE and WR's (our league requires 1 TE, 1 WR, and the flex can be RB/TE/WR, whihc is pretty standard). Granted, it's rare for people to flex a TE, but I've seen it done (we had a player that managed to roster Gronk and Olsen a couple of years ago!)

46 Remember, KUBIAK is just…

Remember, KUBIAK is just creating an estimate for which players will be the best.  For your fumbles/fumbles lost question, fumble recoveries are somewhat random (depending on where they happen).  So, in your case, I would set Fumbles to -1.5.  The half point would account for fumbles being lost about half the time.

For your TE question, I think I would just ignore the TE flex aspect.  The dropoff in tight end scoring is usually pretty steep - there are generally 5-10 TE's worth playing, the rest are usually just injury/bye fill-ins.  So you probably won't want to increase the value of the possible flex TE's, because they are unlikely to be used in place of a WR/RB. 

Yes - ideally KUBIAK would be able to account for these things, but there has to be a limit on customization, and this is all just an estimate anyway.

45 Risk Adjustments

Another question... I never liked using KUBIAK's risk adjustments, because I think just knocking the total down a small percent is a dumb way of taking risk into account, but I liked seeing the risk adjustments by color code. That way, if a player was flagged as risky, I could judge for myself if I wanted to roll the dice on a player.

I.e. given that fantasy football is a form of the "knapsack problem", there's a big difference between a player that has a projection of 0.8X and a player that has an 80% chance of getting X and a 20% chance of getting zero! (Ask everyone who drafted LeVeon Bell last year!)

The fact that I either need to apply risk adjustments or ignore risk totally is a big problem... likely will require that I turn risk adjustment on, download the CSV, and uncorrect for risk myself, which is not what I'm paying for. Couldn't you add an option to view risk colors but not apply risk adjustments?

49 Kicker and Defense baselines

I've set up 2 of my leagues with the scoring rules and the output for both is showing that kickers and team defenses are worth negative points over baseline - the top defense / kicker is at worth at least 20 points less than the number being used for replacement level.

50 Printing Problems?

Is anyone else having trouble getting the "Print Summary" button to work? I'm on a Mac and I've tried it in both Firefox and Chrome. For me, it doesn't do anything when I press the button.

If I try to print using the browser's "Print", I only get one page of data. Any suggestions? The CSV isn't set up great for printing.

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