Thanksgiving Open Discussion

TB will show the world that they are real. The DVOA rankings will prove to be right with the number one spot. 

New Orleans is possibly going to be missing its top two QBs, top WR, top two halfbacks, both offensive tackles, and multiple defensive starters. If Buffalo can't win this game, we should be disqualified from the playoffs. 

I find this Lions-Bears game a lot more compelling than it 'should' be. This, along with the Falcons game, is the only game left on the Lions schedule where they won't be badly outmatched. It might be their best chances to avoid a winless season.

Jinx 

At this pace maybe Goff sets a record goes 22-22 passing and his team loses.  Only Detroit TD was after Chicago recovered a fumble out of bounds and thus Detroit maintained possession.   
 

Remember this Thanksgiving to think of the environment.  Throw your trash (Detroit Defense) in the garbage and throw your recyclables (Andy Dalton) in the recycle bin, someone will reuse him next year. 
 

EDIT:  Talk about jinx, 1st play after post Detroit D intercepts Dalton.

EDIT:  Now the incomplete pass by Goff.  Detroit has gone very backwards since being in FG range 3 drives ago.

Results in a int with Detroit having all 3 timeouts. 

I am not a Buck or Aikman fan, but I ll give them credit for not making this out to be anything than what it is, a close game between two bad teams.  The Buck line about this game will be remembered years from now for its holding penalties was a classic.

Well that was embarrassing.

On behalf of aspiring Loser League champions, the Lions are so bad neither rotoworld nor FO can let us know they changed kickers??

:-(

What superb coaching at the end of game there.

The Lions are so disorganized after a timeout they illegally call a second.

The refs goof and give it to them. Then penalize them.

Then NEEDING A STOP RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW! they play loose coverage. 8 steps back on 3rd and 4.

Then are caught goofing up their substitutions (Why are you substituting there?? Why?!)

Nagy bails them out with his own timeout.

The Bears march 6 yards backward while centering the ball, rather than the normal 3. As shown by extra point %s going down quite appreciably, each yard does count. Some.

The FO writers sure seem to like Campbell. But 

THAT

WAS

TERRIBLE!

If you're not going to challenge that, then I don't understand the point of challenges. The whole stadium knew it except McCarthy.

Geez man

It's crazy seeing a return for a TD these days. They are so rare now it seems like a throwback to a previous era.

Hmm... The FG already being made adds an interesting wrinkle to that fourth down decision. I'm not sure what I would want to do there.

Even with that made FG, the bad missed call on the false start could end up deciding the game.

Wouldn't have trusted Cowboys K. Wouldve faked for the kill shot, screw OT.

Hate Raiders kneeling with 19 seconds and a timeout, with Dallas only one too.

Someone explain to me why both teams don't deserve an L if they can't win in OT.

Also that's why you go for 2. It's 50-50. You're bound to get one. 

Browns 4th penalty puts the Raiders in position to win. That's 4 pass interference penalties for 91 yards!

Wut? Kicking on first down makes no sense. He makes it, but it's still an inexplicable call.

Tredavious White goes out for Buffalo, that's a huge loss potentially

I actually bet the Lions to win straight up and they almost did.  14-13 with a chance to run the clock out, a series of procedure penalties and holding calls dooms them.  I have never seen a team look like it doesn't belong in the NFL.  Even the Texans seem somewhat competent at the routine plays.  There's failure, and then there's pure incompetence.  Is Dan Campbell a good coach?  Procedure penalties are due to a lack of coaching and player reps during the week.  As for the Bears, I can't see how that team will stay within 14 points of the Cardinals in 2 weeks.  They are completely inept on offense and the QB doesn't matter.  Cardinals should wear their Chicago Cardinals throw-backs in remembrance of the first Chicago NFL franchise.

I had a rough time watching the Raiders/Cowboys game because it almost seemed like the Raiders were trying to give the game back, time after time.  Cowboys had way too many injuries and Prescott doesn't look very good right now.  For me it was a great value pick because I wagered that the Raiders were healthier and were due for a win.  Dallas doesn't look like a playoff team right now.  They will make the playoffs due to their poor division, but they have regressed from where they were a month ago.

Even though Josh Allen has regressed this year and the Bills offense looks horrible, the Saints don't have anything on offense.

Shapes up to be a 20-3 type of game with not much happening in the second half.

Other than collect a large paycheck, what does Taysom Hill do?

The Saints should have tried to sign Philip Rivers when Jameis Winston went down.

But active. When does the Sieman experiment end for Ian Book?

Bills waste my time with a stupid trying to make them jump offsides timeout. 

I swear that has to have a 1% success rate the last few years.

This seems unprecedented. After 8 weeks, the so-called Big Six of TB, DALL, GB, NO, ARIZ and LAR were a combined 38-8. And now they have gone 5-13 since, guaranteed to be 6-14 because GB/LA play each other Sunday  and perhaps 6-15 if the Colts beat the Bucs. I'm beginning to think the 49ers, Vikings or Eagles might surprise when it comes to the playoffs. The Saints look out of the playoffs entirely-- Dallas now has to worry about the division, as might GB if they lose to the Rams. Topsy-- meet Turvy...

Didn't watch the game, but based on the final score, I'd guess that Buffalo's #32 variance will remain unchallenged another week. What's going to happen for the rest of the season? Sweep New England and Tampa, while getting blown out by the Jets, Falcon, and Carolina?

All the teams you thinjk would win, won

Bears defeta Loins. Epic moron team Loins are. Lions correctly dont waste time out beforw 2:00 warming but then waste two in row after 2:00 warning and get penalty for it. Then go into zone covergae on 3rd down.

Worst thing that can heppen- Bears get first down but do not score. This will result in Bears bleeding colck and kicking field goal as tim expires. 

best thing that can hppen- Bears turn over ball to Loins

Decent thing that can haoppoen- Bears score touchdown  giving Loins chance to come back down either 14-19 or 14-21. if Loins use time outs coirrectly, then will have decent amoutnof time to run a few plays to set up Hail Marty.  

So, zone coverage as stated above. Of coruse, Loins being Loins, Bears easily complete pass and receiver hits turf a few yeard away from end zone. Couple of Howdy Doody kneel downs and Bears kick field to win game as clock hits 0:00.

Raiders beating Cowboys . No problem there.

Bills pounding Saimts no surprise either. Plenty of good Saints players out wiht injuries. T. Siemian not good NFL quaretrback. enough experience maybe to hang aorund as backup but not winning anything if this guy has to be your team's staryting quarterback . maybe should try out for starying spot in new USFL league or XFL.