2017 Wild Card Game Discussion

Here we go! Oakland at Houston, Detroit at Seattle, Miami at Pittsburgh, and New York at Green Bay. Discuss below!

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126 comments, Last at 09 Jan 2017, 9:38am

#1 by MJK // Jan 06, 2017 - 1:33pm

Picks anyone?

Pittsburgh over Miami is my lock. (Duh)

I'm going to pick Houston to beat Oakland. It's a case of a team with a great defense, mediocre skill players, and a terrible QB at home versus a team with a good defense, great skill players, and a terrible QB on the road. I think the better defense and being at home (plus having had the whole season to get used to said terrible QB, instead of thrusting him into the fire after just a week or so) gives Houston a bigger edge than Oakland's better offensive skill players gives the Raiders.

I'm going to go with Seattle over Detroit. I actually think Detroit has a decent shot, but playing in Seattle is a tall order for a visitor, so I think home field gives the Hawks the edge.

As a Pats fan, I really hope Green Bay takes care of business over New York, but I need to pick one upset here, so I'll go with the Giants. Rodgers run the table magic runs out here.

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#2 by JIPanick // Jan 06, 2017 - 4:12pm

I have all the home teams winning, except I think Oakland is better than even to take out the Texans.

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#8 by RickD // Jan 07, 2017 - 5:53pm

I have the home teams winning, too. In order of confidence: Steelers, Seahawks, Texans, Packers.

It's a shame Raiders lost Carr. They could make a deep run if they had him, but without him it's hard to see them winning anything. Texans played them tight in Mexico City and that was when Raiders had Carr.

Dolphins had a nice run beating mediocre teams in a super-soft schedule but I don't see them beating a healthy Steelers team in Pittsburgh in the playoffs.

Seahawks should have enough to win a home game against a very flawed Lions team.

Packers-Giants is the matchup of the weekend. Either team could make a Super Bowl run though, ironically, I would like the Giants' odds a little better than the Packers' if they can win this game. They've shown they can beat Dallas. But Pack have HFA and I'll take them for one game with Rodgers, esp. since Giants have absolutely no hope of running the ball on offense. Beckham alone shouldn't be enough to win a playoff game.

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#3 by CG43 // Jan 06, 2017 - 9:31pm

I'm really excited for these games. Even though the lines are big in PIT and SEA, I think they'll be close games because MIA will do everything they can to limit possessions and I just feel like something is rotten in Seattle. And NYG/GB seems like it'll be a banger.

As for OAK/HOU, I'm actually pretty excited to have a couple beers, take my dog for a walk at halftime, and not worry if I miss the first few series of the second half. I plan on using that game to ease into the playoffs like an old man lowering himself into a hot tub; but I'll be drunk, nude, and feeling the full force of the bubble-jets come 4:40 on Sunday.

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#4 by FIELD VISION // Jan 07, 2017 - 10:35am

Aaron Schatz what are your picks with the lines this weekend ?
Also what are your teams to go to the SB and winner?

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#6 by Raiderjoe // Jan 07, 2017 - 4:37pm

Picks to win

Raiders Seattle
Steelers
Not picking other game too close to call did pick Gisnts im MFC playoff preview thread but have no confidence in it

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#7 by JoeyHarringtonsPiano // Jan 07, 2017 - 5:00pm

That intercepted screen was like the worst of both worlds. You call a cowardly, uber-negative ALEX pass to avoid a turnover, yet you turn it over anyways.

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#9 by RickD // Jan 07, 2017 - 5:55pm

Broncos and Ravens have to be grimacing watching this Raiders-Texans game. I would take either Baltimore or Denver over the winner of this game.

Nice throw by Osweiler there. If he can actually find the form he had in Denver at times last season, the Texans are suddenly a respectable team. But it's very hard to count on that.

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#11 by Cythammer // Jan 07, 2017 - 6:01pm

Raiders still deserve it more than the Ravens or Broncos on the season, even if the team in its current form isn't as good.

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#10 by RickD // Jan 07, 2017 - 5:57pm

Hopkins!! What a catch!

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#12 by Mountain Time … // Jan 07, 2017 - 6:01pm

The TV game-talkers keep trying to hype the Texans as having the best defense in the league (which will surely come back to bite them when it comes time to talk about what wins championships)

So I don't bother checking mainstream sports sites, but does anyone actually believe that?

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#15 by RickD // Jan 07, 2017 - 6:23pm

They are #1 in yards/game but #11 in points/game. So yeah, that's not all that impressive.

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#13 by Cythammer // Jan 07, 2017 - 6:12pm

I don't know what the Raiders have to lose by switching to McGloin. You're going to have to get some offense going to come back (especially since the Texans are actually doing pretty well on offense), and there's no sign that's going to happen with Cook.

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#19 by Mountain Time … // Jan 07, 2017 - 7:55pm

Well McGloin would still have to play this (apparently) completely dominant Texans defense, which I'm told would embarrass fhe 2000 Ravens, 2002 Bucs, 13 Seahawks and 15 Broncos COMBINED! Funny how no one at this site had any idea the Toxins were so historically good. Right under our noses lol

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#20 by RickD // Jan 07, 2017 - 8:22pm

I hope nobody was playing a drinking game with the trigger "The Texans have the #1 defense". That would have been dangerous.

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#31 by BJR // Jan 08, 2017 - 9:09am

I guess the announcers had to come up with a way of selling this matchup, and they weren't going to do that by focusing on the QBs. It will be interesting to see how much hype the Texans defense receives next week when Tom Brady is going to work on them in Foxboro...

Just rotten for Oakland. I believe they would have had a good chance of winning this game with a healthy McGloin, but once they were down to their rookie 3rd stringer, starting his first ever game, there really was little point in showing up.

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#32 by mehllageman56 // Jan 08, 2017 - 11:57am

Hopefully they will hype it a lot before and at the beginning of that game; it will make the announcing even funnier when Brady and Co. put up a fifty burger on Houston.

They're a good defense, but only 6th in DVOA, so yes, overrated.

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#28 by Aaron Brooks G… // Jan 07, 2017 - 10:38pm

Putting McGloin in would only have helped if he was going in as a receiver.

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#16 by Cythammer // Jan 07, 2017 - 7:00pm

The second half's only exciting play so far gets wiped out by penalty.

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#17 by Cythammer // Jan 07, 2017 - 7:24pm

Unlikely it will matter, but kicking an extra point up 26-7 is a bad decision.

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#18 by RickD // Jan 07, 2017 - 7:28pm

Kicking off with 8 minutes to go down 13 points? NFL Coaches are, again, far too reluctant to use the onside kick. Any game plan predicated on getting a 3-and-out shouldn't care overly much on where that 3-and-out is. The "worst case" of not recovering an onside kick really isn't much worse than just kicking off. Late in the game, down by a lot, possession matters more than anything else.

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#21 by Mountain Time … // Jan 07, 2017 - 9:16pm

So...is Paul Richardson playing out of his mknd because he's on just the perfect amount of opiate pain pills?

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#23 by serutan // Jan 07, 2017 - 9:19pm

Dunno about that, but we already have a candidate for 2017 Catch Of The Year.
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Was wr

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#24 by jonsilver // Jan 07, 2017 - 9:34pm

And, of course, it turns out we have an uncalled face mask by the receiver on that great "catch..." Lions get every break, don't they?

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#25 by ChrisS // Jan 07, 2017 - 10:09pm

The announcers never mention the hugely obvious face mask grab and twist. Great catch but should have been offsetting penalties

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#27 by Joshua Northey // Jan 07, 2017 - 10:31pm

It was way more than 10 minutes but I suppose you are on a DVR so no commercials.

My big take away is that SEA is bad as DET definitely is and SEA is needing help from the refs to get this done.

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#29 by ChrisS // Jan 07, 2017 - 10:52pm

Hate to be a whiney homer but the refs are not giving the Lions any calls. But they do suck and have around 6 dropped passes.

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#30 by JoeyHarringtonsPiano // Jan 07, 2017 - 10:55pm

I knew the Lions never had a chance between Stafford's finger injury and the MASH unit offensive line, but with the dropped passes and Boldin's dumb unsportsmanlike penalties, they really don't deserve to win anyway.

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#22 by Anger...rising // Jan 07, 2017 - 9:18pm

Three of the Lions' first four possessions end with drops of what would have been drive-extending completions; the other on a too-cute play call on fourth and inches.

Detroit Lions playoff football, everybody.

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#33 by JoeyHarringtonsPiano // Jan 08, 2017 - 1:21pm

What a dull first two games. Hopefully today will offer a bit more entertainment.

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#37 by Will Allen // Jan 08, 2017 - 1:56pm

I thought the 2nd game had it's moments until later in the 2nd half. Not a great game, but not terrible.

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#34 by Theo // Jan 08, 2017 - 1:26pm

If you're not going to cover Brown, you're in for a long game.
A great wait by him on the first screen, where the zone defense failed to tunnel Brown back inside. Great wait for the block to develop.
Then a poor angle by Rambo on the second pass.

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#35 by Will Allen // Jan 08, 2017 - 1:52pm

My highly technical assessment of the game at Heinz so far is that the team in black is curbstomping the team in white. There may need to be a humanitarian intervention at halftime.

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#36 by SFC B // Jan 08, 2017 - 1:54pm

Miami just does not look like it wants to be there today.

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#38 by Will Allen // Jan 08, 2017 - 2:02pm

When you yield 3 td drives of more than 80 yards in about the first 18 minutes, including one where it is just rushed down your throat, your effort can he reasonably questioned.

Nice to see Gase try jump start something, however

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#39 by Theo // Jan 08, 2017 - 2:07pm

Holy hell what a whack on poor Moore.
Looks like he wants to go back in. I thought it'd take a few minutes.

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#42 by Joshua Northey // Jan 08, 2017 - 2:13pm

Meh, Running backs take a hit like that once or twice a drive. I am not sure why it is so much more terrible when it is a QB. They are players too.

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#40 by Will Allen // Jan 08, 2017 - 2:09pm

That wasn't roughing, that was leading with helmet. The 15 yards would be the same, but the latter call should result in an ejection.

Can't believe Moore passed an assessment that quickly.

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#63 by Tomlin_Is_Infallible // Jan 08, 2017 - 4:46pm

Pretty much impossible given the current state of human physiology, biomechanics, and helmet design.

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#76 by Tomlin_Is_Infallible // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:37pm

no rant about the hit that knocked Jordy Nelson out.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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#82 by SFC B // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:56pm

A hit to the chest while inbounds? Is that really what you're trying to pick a fight about? Or is it because a white receiver got hurt?

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#104 by Tomlin_Is_Infallible // Jan 08, 2017 - 7:49pm

"Yeah, I'd prefer to be completely intoleramt of leading with the helmet.
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he was injured by a hit that "led with the helmet" and used the helmet as a weapon.

(nevermind that forward motion in football by definition leads with the helmet)

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#113 by Theo // Jan 08, 2017 - 8:09pm

ah so you're saying you think leading with the helmet should be an auto-ejection like in the NCAA rules.

I'm against that. It happens too many times that even a runner can't help but to have his head in front of his body - and this would mean an ejection.

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#43 by Joshua Northey // Jan 08, 2017 - 2:15pm

Well if you want to get into "shoulds" I am not sure there *should* not be hitting allowed in football at all, only tackling. But rather than deal in counter-factuals lets stick to the actual rules.

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#53 by dbostedo // Jan 08, 2017 - 3:15pm

"Shoulds" are cool. It's a comment section, not a news report. Feel free to editorialize.

Personally, I was thinking that high hits like Dupree's are probably going to be an ejection one of these days. Though on replay, he got Moore in the chin less than I thought he did initially, and he lead more with his facemask than I thought.

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#44 by Theo // Jan 08, 2017 - 2:37pm

There's always stories of QBs buying kitchen sets and cars for their offensive linemen.
I wonder what Matt Moore buys his.

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#45 by Mountain Time … // Jan 08, 2017 - 2:46pm

What the hell happened at the end of the half? The Dolphins completed a pass @ the 11 and Pitt was forced to use an injury timeout. Then my dad started yelling about some BS and suddenly it's halftime and Miami hadn't scored anything. WTH?

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#49 by Theo // Jan 08, 2017 - 2:53pm

Remember Harrison and Moore exchange friendly talk earlier in the second quarter?
Harrison went on and sack-fumbled Moore at the end of the half.

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#114 by TimK // Jan 08, 2017 - 8:44pm

That was definitely one of those plays where the late career veteran move of just going down wrapping yourself around the ball owuld have made sense. Moore wasn't going to escape that rush all he could do was protect himself and the ball. Especially when already in scoring range just before the half.

Even if Moore wasn't concussed from the illegal hit it seemed to knock the stuffing out of him, looked to be worried about the next hit most of the game from then on. Not that I blame him, it is a sensible human reaction, but you can be shaken up without being concussed.

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#46 by Mountain Time … // Jan 08, 2017 - 2:47pm

What the hell happened at the end of the half? The Dolphins completed a pass @ the 11 and Pitt was forced to use an injury timeout. Then my dad started yelling about some BS and suddenly it's halftime and Miami hadn't scored anything. WTH?

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#48 by SFC B // Jan 08, 2017 - 2:53pm

MIA completes to the 9 but a PIT defender took a shot to the head so they were charged a TO. Next play MIA leaves Harrison unblocked and he gets the strip-sack.

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#52 by Theo // Jan 08, 2017 - 3:00pm

Simms wants the Dolphins to run more. To establish Ajayai etc, 'keep the defense honest' and all that...
Because 23 yards on 12 carries works so well.

The only thing the Dolphins can do is now play a short quick passing game because the Steelers are in a 2 high a lot and the O-line can't block for more than 2 seconds.

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#54 by Cythammer // Jan 08, 2017 - 3:23pm

This week (so far at least) is an example of why I mostly prefer the regular season over the playoffs. No alternatives when there is a bad game on in the playoffs.

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#55 by Theo // Jan 08, 2017 - 3:39pm

Why oh why are the Steelers starters still in?
Tomlin's reluctancy in substituting is really annoying.

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#57 by Theo // Jan 08, 2017 - 3:53pm

there's a difference between pulling and sharing carries. And you don't need to pull 11 guys at the time, but at least give guys a rest.

And yes, I would. It's a 3 score game. You're not going to lose by subbing in Vince Williams at Linebacker. Or DeAngelo Williams at runningback?

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#58 by Will Allen // Jan 08, 2017 - 4:01pm

You may be right, but in my experience very few coaches would start pulling starters towards the end of the 3quarter, in a 3 score game.

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#62 by Tomlin_Is_Infallible // Jan 08, 2017 - 4:45pm

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#70 by RickD // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:18pm

Apparently Roethlisberger was hurt on the last offensive play of the game for the Steelers.
(The interception, not the kneel-down.)
When the Steelers were up by 18 with 4:34 left.
Showed up for press conference with walking boot on his foot.

TOMLIN!!!!

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#73 by DEW // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:25pm

At this point I'm half expecting Alex Smith to get hit by a bus sometime in the off-week, the way AFC quarterbacks have been dropping out of the way of the Pats.

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#75 by Tomlin_Is_Infallible // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:35pm

idiots gonna idiot.

no reason he should have still been in there.

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#59 by Theo // Jan 08, 2017 - 4:01pm

See? Landry could have thrown that interception just as well.

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#61 by dmstorm22 // Jan 08, 2017 - 4:12pm

Divisional Weekend is shaping up nicely. Three nice games on paper. And one laugher, scheduled nicely on Saturday Night. Can completely disregard that game and go out Saturday Night.

No need to stay in for a 45-10 game.

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#64 by Tomlin_Is_Infallible // Jan 08, 2017 - 4:49pm

last week Floyd block on Lippett--- awesome ! highlight of year! patriot way!

this week Rogers (same) block on whoever it was-- dirty! flag! hines ward rule!

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#83 by roguerouge // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:57pm

Yeah, I didn't see anything wrong with that hit until the replay showed helmet to helmet. The refs mis-labeled it.

As for Roethlisberger's injury, I don't get why he doesn't just throw it away at that point. He's a veteran. He's got to show a lick of common sense.

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#65 by DisplacedPackerFan // Jan 08, 2017 - 4:57pm

GB is going to get crushed if this continues. The injuries and speed disparity in the secondary vs the receivers is stark.

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#66 by DEW // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:00pm

It's like the Giants receivers have all morphed into Ted Ginn: wide open time and again, coin flip if they can actually catch the football right in their hands. Four drops in ten pass plays so far, two each for Beckham and Shepard, including one touchdown each.

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#67 by DisplacedPackerFan // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:03pm

The weather may have a bit to do with it, but it's the only reason this isn't a 14-0 game already. All I can do is keep rooting for drops, because I don't see the coverage getting fixed

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#69 by Anon Ymous // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:17pm

Can't say I disagree. Rodgers looks off as well, there was no reason to take that sack and two long passes fell short because he threw them off his back foot.

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#99 by DisplacedPackerFan // Jan 08, 2017 - 7:14pm

So to GB's credit they have been playing more zone in the second half. There have still been some wide open options, but not as many, and it's not just drops on those that have saved the Packers still, it's been bad throws too. Bad throws in part because of the pressure. So I'm counting that as a good defensive adjustment. They are still lucky that the Giants haven't scored more, they've still been outplayed to the start of the 4th quarter, but it's not as bad as that first half that was a ton of luck for the Packers.

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#68 by Aaron Brooks G… // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:17pm

That DPI would have been ruled uncatchable if the Lions had thrown it.

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#71 by Aaron Brooks G… // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:22pm

Random thought I had in yesterday's game -- do the Raiders have the best roster of punters in NFL history?

They've had Guy, Lechler, and King. Even Gossett turned in an All-Pro year for them.

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#72 by DEW // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:22pm

McAdoo coaching like it's 1973 and he expects the final score to be 10-7 or something. First he chooses to punt instead of going for it or trying a FG (or, heck, trying to draw the defense offsides with a hard count) on 4th-and-5 on the GB 35. Then he kicks the two-inch FG on 4th-and-3, and then he tries three straight runs on 1st-and-15, 2nd-and-12, and 3rd-and-11 in a game where his receivers have been getting open at will.

I mean, it's not that any of those decisions are indefensible in and of themselves, but that kind of aggressive conservatism seems to be ignoring the fact that (a) he's playing Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers in Lambeau, and (b) his team is actually playing really, really well on both sides of the field. He's playing to not lose in a game where he has a chance to get out and win. The best way to prevent Rodgers from pulling his trademark fourth-quarter magic is to be up three scores with 4:00 left.

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#78 by RickD // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:39pm

Counting on the Packers' offense to continue to flounder feels like a recipe for disaster. Sure, it might work. But odds are against it.

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#85 by DisplacedPackerFan // Jan 08, 2017 - 6:01pm

Yeah McAdoo's play calling feels very familiar, feels a lot like McCarthy 4th quarter play calling. As a Packers fan I'm quite happy to see it because this should be a 24 - 7 Giants lead, and a 7 - 6 Packers lead....

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#74 by Kurt // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:31pm

Biggest problem so far for the Giants, aside from the drops, is Brad Wing.

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#79 by Will Allen // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:45pm

Great discipline by the Giants pass rushers today.

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#84 by justanothersteve // Jan 08, 2017 - 5:59pm

I'm not thrilled with McCarthy calling the TO just before the 2:00 warning. These usually backfire with the Packers defense.

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#87 by DisplacedPackerFan // Jan 08, 2017 - 6:05pm

Yeah I'm giving the Packers first half MVP to McAdoo, I don't think anyone else has had more to do with the Packers being in this game still.

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#90 by DEW // Jan 08, 2017 - 6:12pm

Being firmly in control of the game at this point. Other than GB's special teams and offensive line playing genuinely well (even Rodgers's sacks have all been of the "oh, I've been back here for five seconds; maybe I need to throw the pass" variety), they've been outplayed all over the place, and yet McAdoo is coaching like he's terrified of making a Big Dramatic Mistake.

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#116 by oaktoon // Jan 08, 2017 - 9:27pm

I typically hate that strategy and it has backfired several times. Today it succeeded beyond his wildest dreams..

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#88 by DEW // Jan 08, 2017 - 6:09pm

...Honestly, I think at this point the universe is just paying the Packers back for the Fail Mary in karmic balance. Their success rate at Hail Mary passes is insane these past few years.

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#89 by Will Allen // Jan 08, 2017 - 6:10pm

Bad Hail Mary defense is always worth a few chuckles.

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#92 by dcl0 // Jan 08, 2017 - 6:14pm

I just don't understand how you can give up an uncontested Hail Mary. It's not like the NY defenders suck, but how does that happen?

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#93 by Will Allen // Jan 08, 2017 - 6:18pm

Same way qbs blow easy throws or easy read sometimes. Even good players eff up easy plays sometimes.

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#117 by jonsilver // Jan 08, 2017 - 9:36pm

No "may" about it...should have been OPI, but, of course, such a call would never happen in Lambeau...

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#118 by oaktoon // Jan 08, 2017 - 9:40pm

oh come on, that call is never made-- in any stadium Look at one G. Tate-- Seattle-- September 2012 for an example..

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#122 by jonsilver // Jan 09, 2017 - 12:44am

I guarantee you that if a Lions receiver had done it in Green Bay, Dallas or Seattle, it would have been called...

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#91 by Will Allen // Jan 08, 2017 - 6:13pm

It may worth condsidering having your receiver with the best ball skills on your Hail Mary defense.

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#110 by blan // Jan 08, 2017 - 8:05pm

Randy Moss used to be on the Hail Mary defense with the Patriots.

More recently, Gronk was back deep for the Raven's Hail Mary attempt in playoffs following the 2014 season.

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#124 by BJR // Jan 09, 2017 - 3:20am

Well yes, it's exactly the type of scenario for which a well-coached team would be prepared, and a poorly coached team would mess up.

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#95 by SFC B // Jan 08, 2017 - 6:49pm

On the Manning TD the Packers defender gave the universal hand signal for "I was not supposed to be covering the middle all by my lonesome."

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#96 by Anon Ymous // Jan 08, 2017 - 6:55pm

Example #24,368 why Mike McCarthy needs a gameday coaching assistant. Going for 4th was an unnecessary risk and going with such a stupid play call only compounded the idiocy. The Giants were trying to give the game away, don't fight it just let them.

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#105 by BJR // Jan 08, 2017 - 7:49pm

I think the decision to go for it can easily be justified. Handing the ball off to Montgomery, and not leaving it in the hands of Rodgers, however....

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#97 by DEW // Jan 08, 2017 - 6:58pm

...Has Bobby Rainey forgotten what team he plays for? 'Cause at this point in the game he's done a lot more for Green Bay than for New York.

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#98 by Will Allen // Jan 08, 2017 - 7:13pm

Of all the ways for the Giants to lose, I didn't expect it to be by Odell Beckham dropping the ball.

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#100 by DisplacedPackerFan // Jan 08, 2017 - 7:19pm

If that was reviewable I think the knee was down, but man did he get twisted....

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#102 by DisplacedPackerFan // Jan 08, 2017 - 7:31pm

Play to the whistle! Nice job Clay, even if that gets overturned.

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#106 by SFC B // Jan 08, 2017 - 7:55pm

Giants are down by 4 scores with 90 seconds left in the game. The GB defensive starters still seem to be in. That strikes me as being at least as stupid a risk as Tomlin leaving the starters in with 4 minutes left.

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#109 by DisplacedPackerFan // Jan 08, 2017 - 8:05pm

To be fair, they don't really have defensive back-ups anymore. Nearly everyone who isn't injured rotates in on various packages. But I suppose you could have kept Matthews or Peppers off the field more. I think Fackrell, Brice, and Hawkins are about the only ones who don't play semi regularly. They have 15 players that have played more than 42% of the defensive snaps this year (2 more that have been on for more than 25%). Yes injuries were a factor in that but there is a lot of rotation in the front seven and there aren't any healthy back end to rotate anymore.

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#107 by ChiJeff // Jan 08, 2017 - 7:56pm

Jeff C

Did the Packers keep their starters in after getting a big lead?

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#111 by TacticalSledgehammer // Jan 08, 2017 - 8:07pm

So the game that everyone thought would be the most competitive ended up being the biggest blowout, and Raiders-Texans was the "closest" game. On the next week.

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#112 by justanothersteve // Jan 08, 2017 - 8:09pm

A tale of two halves. The first half, Giants outplay Packers yet down 14-6 at half. Packers outplay Giants in second half and run away with game. I can't help but wonder if that Hail Mary just demoralized the Giants going into the second half.

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#120 by NYMike // Jan 08, 2017 - 11:21pm

Remember that it was 14-13 after the failed 4-and-1 attempt, and the Giant's quick strike. It was the Packers response to that, a quick 3-play drive down the field to extend the lead to 21-13 that was the true turning point in the game.

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#115 by oaktoon // Jan 08, 2017 - 9:24pm

Rodgers is closing in on 300 attempts without an INT-- and now has 22TDs/0 INTs in his last 8 games-- certainly starting to approach the greatest single-season run in modern NFL history. (and I realize Ryan and Brady have been awul good in that same stretch, but they didn't have the win or else pressure and that separates Rodgers' achievement a bit) 4.5 pts Dallas favored makes sense-- presuming Nelson has cracked ribs and is out, that probably added a point. I have no crystal ball powers-- would never have thought they would win the last 7-- but one thing seems clear: Prescott will have to be more than a game manager because Dallas probably needs 30+ points to beat Rodgers, Nelson or no Nelson... Montgomery is not a real RB, btw, and that 4th and 1 showed it-- I think Michael will get a lot more snaps Sunday regardless of how badly Montgomery is hurt (and he did return)

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#119 by Flounder // Jan 08, 2017 - 9:56pm

I don't think that he's not a rb, but, at this point, he's a limited rb. This game needed a blast ahead runner (Michael) instead of a patient one.

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#125 by Flounder // Jan 09, 2017 - 7:42am

Agreed. I thought for sure it would be a fake dice to the left with Rodgers rolling to his right.

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#123 by mehllageman56 // Jan 09, 2017 - 1:54am

Glad Rogers and co. put up 38 on the Giants; I was getting sick of the hype about that defense. It wasn't like Lawrence Taylor was walking through that door. No, strike that, I meant Jadveon Clowney... until about midnight eastern time Saturday night.

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