Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

Week 7 Open Discussion Thread

Sun, Oct 19 Time (ET) Network
SD @ BUF 1:00 PM CBS
TEN @ KC 1:00 PM CBS
SF @ NYG 1:00 PM FOX
NO @ CAR 1:00 PM FOX
IND @ GB 4:15 PM CBS
SEA @ TB 8:15 PM NBC
Mon, Oct 20 Time (ET) Network


by Dales :: Thu, 10/16/2008 - 12:12pm

SD-Buf and Chi-Min should be fun; most of the 1PM games look bleah.

by Tundrapat (not verified) :: Thu, 10/16/2008 - 7:47pm

I'd add the N'awlins-Carolina game as worth watching. I don't think Carolina's showing against Tampa last week is indicative of their typical ability. The only 4pm game that I might have interest in is CLE-WAS. For the rest - meh.

And Sunday night will be a complete waste. I say this as a Seattle fan. The 'Hawks would have a hard time on the East Coast (they're what, 1-8 there under Holmgren?) even with a complete set of skill position players. Good luck gereating excitement on that one, NBC crew!

by Telamon :: Thu, 10/16/2008 - 9:05pm

Wow, my choices early are Baltimore vs. Miami or New York G-men vs. San Fran.

Uh, I think I might sleep in this week.

by antimeria :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:24pm

the bmore-miami game has actually been modestly watchable. too bad flacco continues to redefine the phrase "inexplicable decision-making."

by Anonymous (not verified) :: Fri, 10/17/2008 - 12:45pm

CLE vs WAS should be interesting as well. CLE coming off big win and WAS coming off let down loss. CLE by 3

by Godjesus (not verified) :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:55am

so technically it's sunday. I'm so simultaneously nervous and excited I can't sleep.

by B :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:19pm

Well, I was interested in watching the Buf/SD game, but when I stepped away for a moment, it turned into Pitt/Cincy. I don't think this is an improvement.

Edit: On the plus side, at least it's not Steve Harvey.

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:22pm

CBS's scroll is saying the Buffalo game has been suspended due to "Stadium Technical Difficulties. Um, What The Hell?

by asg (not verified) :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:23pm

The whole area is having a power outage.

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:26pm

Ouch. Well at least the Buffalos/Buffalovians/Buffalites watching at home on TV aren't actually missing the game like they're probably worrying.

by steveo (not verified) :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:24pm

Apparently, the power is out in Buffalo...

by BucNasty :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:24pm

Complete lack of effort by Lance Moore. The ball was low, but he didn't even really try for it. But hey, it's just a division game.

by lionsbob :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:30pm

Nice run by Reggie Bush, there was a huge hole, but still nice cutback and everything.

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:32pm

Boy, Joe Flacco is getting no protection, and looks pretty skittish, running at the first danger, including once on play action on 3rd and 1, where he was dropped for a loss of one. Fortunately they convert on 4th and 2, and despite an eventual 3rd and 26, still manage to kick a field goal (in spite of Stover's spaghetti leg).

by lionsbob :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:33pm

and Dallas is getting gashed early. Down 14-7 early.

by B :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:36pm

Did Romo start?

by asg (not verified) :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:37pm

No, Johnson did, and now Johnson has just thrown a pick inside his own 20. STL poised to go up 21-7.

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:38pm

Brad Johnson is 2 for 5 for 29 yards. Romo is on the roster as the #2 QB.

by The Ninjalectual :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:08pm

Brad Johnson actually looks servicible so far; the rest of the Cowboys don't. TO is already phoning it in. Donnie Avery burnt the entire left side of Dallas' secondary on the 42-yard TD; I don't know which corner he ran by and the safety #38 (Roy Williams?) was badly out of position and he looked lost. StL's O-line will keep Dallas in this game, but the Rams D and "skill" players are looking good.

Hee-hee go Rams!

Chris Horton for defensive rookie of the year.

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:36pm

I don't mean to alarm anyone, but Visanthe Shiancoe just made a slick over-the-shoulder catch for a touchdown... 14-14 Vikings-Bears.

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:38pm

...followed by one of the shortest non-squib kickoffs I've ever seen, fielded past the 30 and returned to just shy of midfield. Oh how I don't miss Longwell...

by Moridin :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:42pm

Craziness in Chi/Min. Klewe muffed the punt snap and it got returned, and now the Vikings answered going straight down the field. 14-14.

Having a semblance of an offense is weird.

And the Vikings would be better off kicking out of bounds on kick offs rather than this pathetic short/squib kicking when they can't stop the guy who gets it from getting to the 50 anyway.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:44pm

Giants go for it on 4th and 1. Take Jacobs out.

Bradshaw for the 1st!

ETA-- Then Jacobs gets the ball, disappears into a huge pile, and subsequently the pile moves moves moves down to the 1 yard line.

And earlier, Ward was about 7 yards from the 1st at initial contact, which was made by him lowering his head into a defender's chest and driving, until he finally went down a yard short.

The Giants running backs are not just a function of the OL. They have some very tough runners. Easy to see why Grant was let go, even despite the fact that Droughns is not a great runner; he is good on specials.

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:44pm

Announcer on Orton: "From the neck up, he makes all the right decisions."

by lionsbob :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:49pm

Dallas fumbles, St. Louis has the ball on their own 34 up 21-7. Apparently the worst team in football just needed to play the super tough NFC East.

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:05pm

Actually, this is the softer part of the Rams NFC East schedule, having been blown out in weeks one and two by the Eagles and Giants.

Seriously, though, who did the Rams piss off to get all of their games against the East scheduled in the first seven weeks?

by BucNasty :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:55pm

Peppers just chased down Shockey from the backside on a screen and punched the ball out.

ETA: And it leads to a score as Stewart walks in from like 15 yards out.

by B :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:52pm

TD 49ers! This might be a game.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:53pm

What an odd feeling for a Giants fan to have while watching the Cowboy game out of the corner of my eye. I actually feel sorry for them.

Meanwhile, the Giants defense is showing Browns-game-like tendencies today. Not sure what is causing it yet. It is not as critical, yet, because the Browns have better skill position players and because the Giants offense has been better this week, but... and as I type, the G-men give up a long TD pass, with Ross just plain beaten and with the DL getting not-quite-enough-pressure.

14-10 Giants. But I think the loss last Monday did tell opponents something useful about how to attack the Giants (one man audible, I wish you were right and not me), and that is worrisome.

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 1:56pm

Oh my goodness. Pennington just threw the worst pass I've ever seen, about 5 yards to Terrell Suggs for the pick-six.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:05pm

I know the Giants defense is not playing well, and our offense is doing good so far but this Niners team is much better than last year's. I am impressed with the progress they have made.

ETA- but another warning sign that the Giants of old are reappearing- Burress loses his cool and gets a stupid penalty that will cost us a lot of field position.

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:04pm

Man, Pennington is running all over the place. Fans are probably screaming at him to slide, but he gets horsecollared out of bounds by God's Linebacker for an extra 15 yards, and he pops up and makes the "first down" sign. You can't say that last int has made him timid.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:10pm

A bunch of Vikings fans all screamed out in anguish, and I turn my head to see a scramble for the ball in the endzone, recovered by the Bears for a touchdown.

by Moridin :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:13pm

Yeah... I think an act of god will be required for the Vikings to not have the 32nd ranked special teams this year.

Oh, and an INT... *sigh*

by BucNasty :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:20pm

Carolina just ran the riskiest looking flea flicker I've ever seen. Either Stewart or Williams flung the ball back to Delhomme instead of turning and pitching it. I guess it sells the run a little bit better but I could easily see it going horribly wrong.

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:14pm

Vikings force the punt, then the returner Bowman had a really weird play. He ran to field the punt, then decided it would bounce into the endzone so just in front of the ball he tried to block the Bears coverage player... well the ball fell right behind him and bounced up into Bowman's elbow. Bears recovered in the endzone for a TD.

by Arson55 :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:15pm

I haven't seen a good pass from Brad Johnson yet.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:16pm

Very very nice special teams tackle by Hixon, who is proving to be very valuable.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:18pm

And now a bunch of moans from the Bears fans here, and I see a blocked figgie.

ETA- my head being turned means I missed a Giants interception! 2nd and goal.

by Arson55 :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:20pm

And then Deon Anderson has a chance to down the ball at the one only to let it go through his hands.

Come to think of it, I haven't seen the Cowboys do anything right today.

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by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:29pm

Giants defense continues to be picked apart, but saves itself with the second INT of the game.

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:39pm

27-24 Bears... at the half. Without the Vikes' special teams gaffes the Bears wouldn't have half those points.

by Arson55 :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:39pm

Brad Johnson couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, as the expression goes. I don't know if I've ever seen a worse performance by a QB. It's not even a huge problem with pressure. He is just nowhere near his receivers. This is just sad.

...and by the way, goodbye playoffs. Cowboys aren't going to get there this year. The NFC is just too strong and this is the fourth consecutive week that is an absolutely horrible performance.

by dmb :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:48pm

I just took a glance at the play-by-play of the CAR-NO game, and it said that Reggie Bush was injured during a run by Jonathon Stewart -- and that he'll be out the rest of the game. What happened??? Did Stewart run into him on the sideline or something?

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:53pm

Another turnover by SF, which is just giving this game away.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 2:57pm

I have figured out part of the difference between the Giants today and last week. It is not so much Eli being less accurate (or rather, as accurate as he was at the start of last year and before) but that some of his decisions have been bad. Last week, some were clearly wrong and today it may be that there have been no good options but it has looked like he has gone to a completely covered guy quite a few times

ETA-- then a very nice pass to a not particularly open Burress who made a nice catch.

by TLivingston :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:00pm

I was just about to say. A lot of that has to do with the 49ers defensive backs not being able to play a lick of coverage right now. That and the fact that the 49ers continue to give the Giants a short field thanks to turnovers. Not as much pressure on Manning in those situations.

by Anger...rising (not verified) :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:02pm

The Vikings have kicked off five times; three short kicks have resulted in the Bears starting at their own 45 on average, including once in the final 22 seconds of the half leading to a go-ahead field goal. On two deep kicks, they've brought Hester down at the 22 and the 20.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:05pm

Figured out another part of the Giants' ails. They rely on the MLB to provide a bit better interference into throwing lanes on the slants and crossing patterns underneath. When Pierce was hobbled and then out, the defense really struggles in this regard.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:08pm

Dallas. Just... wow.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:13pm

Big play for Ward followed by a nice run by Bradshaw. The way the Niners are playing defense better suits their styles than Jacobs', and the coaches apparently see it that way too because they are getting more carries than usual.

by Sid :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:14pm

NFC South is weird.

Bucs blow out the Panthers and then the Panthers blow out the Saints.

Reminds me of a few years ago when the Bucs owned the Falcons, the Panthers owned the Bucs, etc.

Steven Jackson owns the Dallas D.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:17pm

Harris on the Niners just decided that coverage after a pump-fake is just too hard and flat out tackles Toomer on the pump-and-go. Before the go.

by Ben B. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:20pm

Down 20-14, with the San Diego defense having forced one punt all day, Norv decides to punt on fourth and one on the Buffalo 40. Way to go, Norval.

Mike Scifres and Kassim Osgood kind of bail him out by punting and downing the ball at the Buffalo 1, but still.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:22pm

It was a close thing, but Bradshaw appeared to be down before fumbling. The call was opposite, and he got an unsportsmanlike. Then the call is reversed, and I see that the Giants have not lost a fumble this year. Good for the past, and doesn't imply that it will even out, but does suggest we cannot count on it continuing.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:24pm

Wow. Niners block the figgie and return it for a TD to pull within 7.

I am not liking this.

by Sid :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:25pm

Clements just ran back a blocked FG for San Fran. 24-17 Giants

by Andrew B :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 5:09pm

Has any team ever blocked field goals and returned them for TD's two weeks in a row? How about doing that AND losing both games?

The Original Andrew

by Shane S. (not verified) :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:28pm

Boy, minnesota and chicago seem to get into more than their share of turnover returned for tds and generally wacky play filled games, that's for sure...

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:33pm

Long catch-and-run to Booker, now a Ferotte pick returned to the 5, followed by a Matt Forte touchdown, and it's 47-31 Bears. This is one of the oddest games I've seen in awhile.

ETA: my stream is running a bit behind... Vikes stopped the Bears on 4th down but got a pass interference penalty on 4th to set up the run.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:34pm

Very nice conversion on third and nine, Manning to Smith. Important to eat the clock because the D has been shaky but opportunistic.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:39pm

Woot! Back to a 2-score game.

/But I am alarmed that it is a close 2-score game.
//And worried that it might not end that way.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:47pm

21 Penalties in the SF NY game.

Really ugly fumble there by JOS. Niners recover though in third and forever, which is unfortunately makeable.

ETA-- which they then do, and then miss barely on a bomb.

by CathyW :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:46pm

Man, what is going on with Dallas-STL? I have Giants-SF or Steelers-Bengals so I can't get it live. Not that I don't love seeing the worst team in football open up a can of whup-ass on the hated Cowboys, but ay carumba!

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:49pm

Dallas has looked very weak on both sides of the ball, IMO.

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:46pm

After fumbling backwards on a sack, J.T. O'Sullivan converts on 3rd and 19.

The 49ers continue to make no sense to me.

by Kurt :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:54pm

I don't think much more of Gregg Easterbrook than most people here, but boy is he right about the punting thing. Down 10, seven minutes left, 4th and 5 at midfield (SF, this is). WHY ARE YOU PUNTING???? I'm not complaining though.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:56pm

Is it just me, or are the Cowboys underrepresented on FO in the comments sections and discussions?

This year is making no sense to me so far. The teams the Giants have beaten (excepting the Seahawks) are appearing better than they seemed, but the Giants have looked very pedestrian the last two weeks. Dallas has been falling off a cliff, the Eagles inconsistent, and the Rams are suddenly looking like an OK team. The Pats are ordinary, the Bills very good, the Bears resurgeant.

Just an odd year so far.

by CathyW :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:12pm

I think you're being generous by calling the Eagles "inconsistent." But we'll see how they look next week against the Falcons.

Parity, thy name is NFL.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:58pm

Safety, G-men, which should ice it.

by B :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 3:58pm

Heads up play by JP Morgan, kicking the ball out of the end zone to prevent the Giants from recovering the fumble for a TD.

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:02pm

I see Tennessee allowed a TD by the Chiefs. So much for them being a dominating defense.

Seriously, though, it's good to see that SOMEONE can manage to blow out the teams they're supposed to blow out in this league.

I just saw Lendale White's long TD run, possibly the most lumbering run by a non-lineman in the history of football.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:06pm

Now that the Niners offense is pressing, the Giants DL is starting to get a lot of pressure and JTOS is being very sloppy with the ball.

by Arson55 :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:10pm

Just to confirm, the Cowboys are out of the playoffs. Without Newman healthy, the defense sucks. And unless Romo comes back and plays like he's healthy, the offense will do nothing. Brad Johnson is a disaster at quarterback.

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:11pm

JTOS seems to forget the down and the Giants get the ball. Game.

An unimpressive 12 point win.

/I'll take it.

by Kurt :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:14pm

Me too, Dales. Can't complain about the defense in the second half - Niners didn't even get a sniff.

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:16pm

Boy, I think it might be time for Tarvaris to return to the helm...

by KyleW :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:22pm

I know I asked for it a few times during the week but do we get STL in Any Given Sunday this week then?

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:26pm

I'd assume so. I think this one is a more interesting case than last week, as this was just pure domination by the underdog.

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:25pm

We've got a Rock Cartwright sighting! No sign yet of Shaun Alexander, but Portis is 3 for 3 in terms of run success.

Oof, Cartwright gets hit on a pass in the backfield for a loss of 7.

by Dave Bernreuther :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:31pm

What the heck was that ruling in Green Bay? They onside kicked it out of bounds, Ron Winter said something about 5 minutes (the wind made it impossible to hear him), and the result was that it was a five yard penalty and a rekick instead of the Colts getting the ball there or at the 40.

Then Crosby promptly kicked the rekick out of bounds too.

by War Eagle (not verified) :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:35pm

Ron Winter and his crew suck. Three personal foul calls already.

by tornadot :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:41pm

What do we make of the Bills/Chargers game? Other than the fact that the Chargers D is lacking. Edwards looked pretty good considering 2 weeks ago he didn't know where he was or even what he was. Now if Denver can win against NE, we'll have a nice cushion going into the bye.

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:43pm

Goy, Packers getting gashed by Dominic Rhodes

by MilkmanDanimal :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:48pm

The Vikings gave up two special teams TDs, threw four picks, and still only lost by 7. That was both a great and an awful game; entertaining as hell, but really badly played.

The Texans look like the '07 Patriots against the Lions. Fire Millen! Oh, wait . . .

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 5:05pm

Fire him again.


by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:50pm

Derek Anderson is 1-8 for 6 yards, and has done nothing with two drives starting in Washington territory. So much for the return to 2007. Though to be fair, one of those passes was dropped by Braylon Edwards.

by ctramsfan (not verified) :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:53pm

Perhaps the "Worst team in football" isn't? That wasn't ALL about how bad Dallas played. There was some how good the RAMS played. They just split with the vaunted NFC East. Next Sunday in Foxboro, and I'm going!!!

Connecticut Rams Fan

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 4:57pm

Jim Hasslet for Coach of the Year!

by B :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 5:09pm

So, after the highly entertaining, but occasionally unbroadcasted SD/BUF game, I'm treated* to the Jets at Raiders. Man, the raiders are bad. Jets aren't really that great either.

*not actually a treat.

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 5:10pm

The Redskins and Brows have managed 10 punts thus far, or one punt per 2:30 minutes of game time.


by Andrew B :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 5:19pm

What is the single game punting record?

The Original Andrew

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 5:23pm

Ryan Grant into the endzone, Pack leads 17-7. The offense is firing on all cylinders, and as Simms noted (in all honesty, he's actually been pretty decent so far), they look like last year's. Colts' defense: cures what ails ya!

by Irish Boy (not verified) :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 5:34pm

So... when do we stop making fun of Kyle Orton?

by CathyW :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 5:46pm

Oh, man, this Jets-Raiders game is bad. Ugh.

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 5:54pm

At least there's been some scoring. Unlike Cle-Was

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 5:52pm

Double post

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 5:48pm

Shaun Alexander sighting! He runs for 8 yards on 1st and 20. Then nothing on the next play.

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 5:57pm

Wow, Colts got a drive together until Nick Collins picks off Peyton and returns it for a TD on a very slick runback.

by Dave Bernreuther :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 6:05pm

Collins with an incredible tip play to save a TD on the next drive too, would've hit Marvin in stride in the end zone but he got WAY up to knock it away.

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 6:11pm

Ack, Colts force a Packers punt but (Colts') Jennings commits a penalty trying to induce a false start. They've gotten a lot of flags today...

by Harris :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 6:42pm

Bwah-ha-ha-haaa. A-ha-a-haa-ha-haa!

"A little celery is always nice after a good pee."

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 6:49pm

Peyton is pissed and rightfully so on a non-call PI. The next play, it happens again almost except for a verrrrry late flag.

by Harris :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 6:54pm

Prototypical Favre late-game "What the Favre?" wounded duck leads to a pick by DeAngelo Hall. Raiders lead 13-10 at the 2 minute warning, 1st-and-10 at midfield.

"A little celery is always nice after a good pee."

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 6:57pm

Game over in Green Bay with an awful pick-6 by Manning.

Hell, Brady goes down and Peyton turns human. Odd.

by B :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 7:07pm

Stupid "icing the kicker" timeout. Didn't Cable see the end of the Dal/Ari game?

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 7:07pm

I am laughing my freaking a off at the Raidahs.

But feel very bad for RaiderJoe.

by Harris :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 7:07pm

Raiders the most recent team to screw themselves by trying to freeze the kicker. Feely doinks the first one, but Cable calls time-out. Feely hits the second from 52 to tie the game.

"A little celery is always nice after a good pee."

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 7:09pm

Has the timeout-right-before-kick thing actually WORKED in recent memory? yet another timeout undoing a miss in the Jets-Raiders game...

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 7:21pm

Can the Brownies make this weekend completely full of win for the Giants?

ETA- No they can't.

Boy, FO really struggles to serve pages quickly. There has to be something wrong behind the scenes, with the DB or with the coding of Drupal, because it should be able to handle the traffic it gets without needing an overly powerful server.

by Opiegrey (not verified) :: Mon, 10/20/2008 - 8:21am

Glad to hear it isn't just me. I wonder if its an ad-server issue. It's getting to be darn near unbearable.

by CathyW :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 7:15pm

I think Favre was over the line of scrimmage when he threw that pass.

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 7:28pm

Wow does Favre look bad... SOOO glad the Pack have Rodgers now.

by Pat F. :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 7:31pm

Good lord, not that Russell looks like any great shakes either......

by Tarrant :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 7:44pm

I wanted a tie :(

by Dales :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 7:59pm

You know, Trent Dilfer is really good. I can't remember the last time a non-Jaworski announcer (and there only on NFL Matchup) made me change my opinion about a team's play.

He was persuasive in his case that the 49ers are not better than they were last year. He's really going off on them, too.

by B :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 8:32pm

No John Madden tonight?

by Telamon :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 9:11pm

Apparently he didn't want to make the trip, as he refuses to fly, and the schedule would have required repeated cross-country trips.

As I write this, I think Ike Hilliard took a scary hit (edit) but he got up. He was most definitely out though.

by Theo :: Sun, 10/19/2008 - 11:24pm

The Colts didn't go for it on 4th and 1 on the ~50 in the first drive.
The Packers did go for it on 4th and 1 on the following drive. Then the colts settle for a FG, punt and waste way to much time in the 2nd half.
The Colts offense also did have NO answer for the quite simple bump and run defense the Packers showed them. All they came up with were a few screens and a shovel pass - that got sniffed out.

That was a long OT FG by Janikowski. Congrats RaiderJoe.

by B :: Mon, 10/20/2008 - 8:39pm

Cutler! Cassel! It's monday night. I got a bad feeling about this game.

by Rocco :: Mon, 10/20/2008 - 10:05pm

I'm getting the impression that Denver's run defense isn't very good.

by Pat F. :: Mon, 10/20/2008 - 11:05pm

Ooof, Cutler may have inadvertently ended HGHarrison's career