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21 Apr 2006

Favre: McNair 'Doesn't Deserve' Exile

No one ever accused Brett Favre of not speaking his mind, even if he continues to keep his lips zipped as to his own playing future.

Posted by: P. Ryan Wilson on 21 Apr 2006

27 comments, Last at 21 Apr 2006, 11:36pm by Kaveman

Comments

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by JRM (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 9:11am

Favre hasn't kept his lips zipped about his future- he's been forthright about being undecided.

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by Ilanin (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 9:21am

Most telling line in this article?

"Favre and McNair have the same agent, Bus Cook."

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by Tyler (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 9:33am

While McNair 'doesn't deserve exile', I'm not sure what exactly makes our buddy Brett think that he deserves the right to be the moral conscience for other players (the Javon Walker thing last year) and other teams (this). Yes, I know he's a legend, but sometimes he really needs to learn what he's involved in, and what he's not, and just shut the hell up when something is completely unrelated to him.

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by Sophandros (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 9:44am

I'm officially sick of Favre. If he plays this year in a game where I'm present, I will vocally boo, make a sign showing my disdain for him, and encourage others to do the same.

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by Banditball (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 9:49am

I wonder what Mark Chmura thinks about all of this....

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by Tom (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 10:23am

As a Titans fan, I'd just like to say 'Who cares?' Perhaps some enterprising reporter should ask visiting Chinese Premier Hu Jintao what he thinks of the situation, since that might actually produce an interesting comment.

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by James Thrash (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 10:45am

Tom - priceless comment.

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by JRM (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 10:58am

While McNair ‘doesn’t deserve exile’, I’m not sure what exactly makes our buddy Brett think that he deserves the right to be the moral conscience for other players (the Javon Walker thing last year) and other teams (this). Yes, I know he’s a legend, but sometimes he really needs to learn what he’s involved in, and what he’s not, and just shut the hell up when something is completely unrelated to him.

Since this is completely unrelated to you, perhaps you should follow your own advice and shut the hell up. :)

If you stop and think about it, Favre hasn't done anything wrong. It's just that he's under such incredible scrutiny.

How many times have you heard the Titans criticized over the way they've handled the McNair situation- dozens? Yet when Favre echoes those same sentiments, we all have to be crybabies about it.

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by brian (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 10:59am

Funny how any talk of a player holding out gets all kinds of media hype, while the team holding out on a player is completely swept under the rug.

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by JRM (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 11:09am

I’m officially sick of Favre.

I'm sick of:

1. The media's coverage of Favre.

2. Fans overreacting to said media coverage.

If he plays this year in a game where I’m present, I will vocally boo, make a sign showing my disdain for him, and encourage others to do the same.

I'm dying to know- how will you encourage others to do this?

"Hey...uh...you should boo Brett Favre- vocally boo him- because he criticized the way the Titans handled the McNair situation. That really, really bothers me, you know..."

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by Parker (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 11:23am

The Titans should release a statement that says they will let McNair back into the family as soon as Favre makes up his mind about playing or not this year and then see what Miss Nosey Nellie has to say about that.

P.S. - I don't really care about the McNair or Favre issue, there just isn't anything else to talk about. Feel free to not read this.

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by Green Bay for Life (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 11:34am

RE 11

Sure there is...

we could talk about the weather, skiing conditions in your part of the country, wether or not the yankees will win it all this year....

Oh wait a minute, your meant nothing to talk as far as football is concerned. Well you are right about that. :-)

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by cthoover (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 12:27pm

JRM - I think you are reading my mind

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by Matt (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 12:37pm

It appears Ron Mexico is going to show the world the ''real me'' and torch the league this year. Just ask him. Article connected to the link.

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by Will Allen (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 1:15pm

The NFL is a lot more interesting when there are games being played, isn't it?

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by P. Ryan Wilson :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 1:16pm

Yes.

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by Tyler (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 1:28pm

RE: 8
Touche. But at the same time, it's quite obvious that my situation is different than Favre's. To a certain extent, me being a paying consumer gives me the right to complain about the product. Favre on the other hand gets paid to play the game, for the Green Bay Packers. If the Packers were prohibiting Javon Walker from the workout facility or something along those lines, then Favre would have a very legit reason to complain. However, the fact that the Titans are doing it doesn't influence Brett one way or the other. That's the reason why journalists and reporters are allowed to complain about the Titans doing what they're doing; it's their jobs to do so. Favre's job is to play football, not to get involved in contract disputes. And judging by his stats and his teams win/loss record last year, he should be focusing on his football.

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by Sophandros (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 2:05pm

JRM,

It's pretty simple, actually. You see, those of us who actually venture into crowds understand crowd dynamics and how to win people over.

The over-reaction I'm really sick about is people over-reacting to other people's over-reacting.

That, and the self-righteous and foolish hatred of Barry Bonds by the media and the sheepish fans.

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by GBS (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 2:25pm

Even sportspickle.com can't get enough of Michael Strahan's biggest fan.

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by Zac (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 3:16pm

I don't understand how this is Favre's fault. From what I understand, someone in the media choose to ask him what he felt about the McNair situation. So he told them. If anything, blame the media who felt that it was necessary to ask him such an obviously (according to some posters) unrelated question. They're the ones who keep talking about Favre.

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by David Arnott (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 3:20pm

Sheesh. Favre gets asked something, and, as one of the league's elder spokesmen, he speaks his mind, and folks get all in a hizzy about it and bash him. Yeah, the Favre-love can get annoying, but is it really worthy of such enmity towards him? I mean, if Cedrick Wilson was accused of stomping squirrels' heads in, it would take about a week for people to start saying: I'm so sick of all these football players like Cedrick Wilson and Brett Favre with all their squirrel abuse and everything.

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by Ben (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 3:30pm

I think it's not speaking his mind which everyone gets upset about, it's his perceived hypocracy (whether he is a hypcrite or not is another debate.)

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by Banditball (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 3:37pm

All joking aside, I'm really not sure what the issue is here. Favre was asked his opinion and gave it. No big deal.
No according to the terms of the contract, McNair is not being treated unfairly. He is being treated shabbily by the Titans as is their perogative.
It is what it is....a slow news day for football.

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by usedbread (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 8:51pm

JRM: are you a green bay fan? if not , you should considering being one, as your homerism is already quite sickening.

i never played college or pro football,but in hs we had a similar situation with a qb not deciding whether he was going to play or not until the july.

if farve had said in feb., "no, im not going to play," gb wouldve been able to sign kitna to metnor/take over for rodgers.

instead, because of his indecision, if he doesnt decide to play, gb can decide between kerry collins(if they pay him the money he wnats, which isnt likely,) and pat barnes.
woohoo!

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by JRM (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 10:40pm

The over-reaction I’m really sick about is people over-reacting to other people’s over-reacting.

That, and the self-righteous and foolish hatred of Barry Bonds by the media and the sheepish fans.

We're actually on the same page re: Barry Bonds.

JRM: are you a green bay fan? if not , you should considering being one, as your homerism is already quite sickening.

I'm not a Green Bay fan, so there goes your charge of homerism.

i never played college or pro football,but in hs we had a similar situation with a qb not deciding whether he was going to play or not until the july.

That's FASCINATING! Thanks so much for sharing that information.

if farve had said in feb., “no, im not going to play,� gb wouldve been able to sign kitna to metnor/take over for rodgers.

instead, because of his indecision, if he doesnt decide to play, gb can decide between kerry collins(if they pay him the money he wnats, which isnt likely,) and pat barnes.
woohoo!

I say this every time the "will Favre play or not?" controversy arises. THE GREEN BAY PACKERS ARE IN COMPLETE CONTROL OF THIS. If they don't like Favre's non-commital, they could have cut him at any time, moved on and found a backup for Rodgers. They're opting to wait Favre out.

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by NF (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 10:56pm

Favre should issue an ultimatum that he will refuse to tell whether he will retire until the Titans and McNair reach an agreement. Peter King would surrender in 5 seconds.

Seriously though, I think it is possible Favre actually decided what he was going to do a week ago when the "no change" press conference was held, but Green Bay asked him to stay quiet until after the draft to deceive the other teams. I'm not sure what they would deceive the other teams of, but my hypothesis is not inconsistent with the facts.

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by Kaveman (not verified) :: Fri, 04/21/2006 - 11:36pm

Speaking for myself, I find Favre's (media-fed) self-righteousness somewhat tedious. He's not a stupid man; he knows perfectly well the regard that the general public has for him (justified or not) and that his opinions are news, especially at this time of the year. It is perfectly understandable and quite human for him to want to see his name in the news, but after what his speaking out cost his team-mate, Javon Walker, last year, perhaps he should hold his peace when asked leading questions instead of holding forth like some sort of midwestern nobleman.