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Cut Day Megathread

While the Khalil Mack news obviously sucked up most of the big headlines on Saturday, it was also cut-down day, as teams dropped directly from 90-man rosters to 53 for the first time.

Plenty of notable names have received the ax. Buffalo has cut Corey Coleman, after trading for the receiver earlier in the offseason. It wasn't a great day for wide receivers in general, with Baltimore cutting bait on Breshad Perriman and Oakland releasing Martavis Bryant in light of an upcoming drug suspension.

In special teams news, Dallas has surprisingly let go of kicker Dan Bailey, while punter Shane Lechler is out in Houston.

In backup quarterback news, the Steelers have moved on from Landry Jones, while the Raiders actively traded for AJ McCarron in the fourth-weirdest thing they've done all day.

Other major cuts include:

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25 comments, Last at 05 Sep 2018, 9:47am

1 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Mountain Time ---- formerly Ninjalectual // Sep 02, 2018 - 2:23am

Eric Decker retired after not making the Patriots roster. Did anyone pay attention to his career post-Denver? Apparently he had two quite good years in Jersey, then, what, exactly? Did he get hurt and never recover? He was a bona fide #1 WR in Denver even with Demaryius Thomas on the Broncos roster, and they seemed to flip being 1A/1B depending on the gameplan. Sad to see a player go from the top to the bottom in such a short time.

I wonder how his wife's instagram or whatever is doing.

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3 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by jtr // Sep 02, 2018 - 12:43pm

As someone who watches a lot of Jets football by virtue of being in their TV market, I was a bit underwhelmed by his career in the Meadowlands. There were a lot of drops and just general inconsistency to his play in Jersey. He looked to me like a #2 receiver who was over his head when miscast as The Guy in 2014. His best season with the Jets was 2015, when he was definitely second banana to Brandon Marshall.

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12 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Will Allen // Sep 03, 2018 - 11:01am

Coming out of college, in which I saw most of his catches, I really expected him to display better ball skills as a pro, but he never was all that good in traffic. I always suspected that an ultra violent helmet to jaw shot he took his last season in college, which resulted in him having it wired shut for weeks, affected his ball skills in the NFL. It really was among the worst hits zi have seen, which did not end a career.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=DiFZMQv3TM4

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24 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Shylo // Sep 04, 2018 - 6:47pm

He had the dropsies in Tennessee.

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2 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by CVBoot // Sep 02, 2018 - 7:00am

Vikings were going to cut Terence Newman, but he retired and joined the coaching staff instead. They have four players that are exactly 30 years old - Cousins, Everson Griffen, Sendejo at SS, and their punt returner/gunner, Marcus Sherels.

Everyone else that made the team is younger than that. Their snap-weighted age last year was 27.1. Obviously don't know what that's going to be this year yet, and obviously these numbers aren't comparable, but the average age of their initial 53 is 25.5, and the average age of their probable starting 22 is... hrm. 27.0.

Was thinking cutting Robison and Newman would lower that number a little more.

Still, this fan's fairly happy with where we're sitting, even if I'm sad to see Robison go.

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5 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by agauntpanda // Sep 02, 2018 - 2:24pm

This post made me realize that Kirk Cousins and Matthew Stafford are both 30(!)

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10 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Will Allen // Sep 03, 2018 - 10:40am

You can only go so low with average age. If you are 25.5, a pretty large chunk of the roster is on their 3rd year or less. For a team which has won 32 games and two division titles in the last 3 years, that's pretty young.

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11 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Will Allen // Sep 03, 2018 - 10:51am

Guys like Robison who are drafted 4th round or later, who end up.having a career of a decade or more, especially for the team that drafted them, are in some ways my favorite players. Robison obviously didn't have the borderline HOF career like Matt Birk did, and wasn't a starter until his 5th year, but he was quite productive, and ended up earning 42 million. Really appreciated his work.

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13 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by billprudden // Sep 03, 2018 - 11:11am

Then you must love Jared Allen, for at least two reasons!

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15 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Will Allen // Sep 03, 2018 - 11:27am

Well, Allen's a near certain HOFer, in my view, so he's kind of obvious. What a great, great, player, who really devoted himself to excelling in all aspects of the position, not just being a sack collector.

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4 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by billprudden // Sep 02, 2018 - 12:52pm

Can either a draftnik and/or an OL guru tell me how Jonathan Cooper turned out so bad at playing football? Every year there's a can't miss OL, and, well, like 50%...

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6 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by jtr // Sep 02, 2018 - 4:28pm

In the 2013 draft, Eric Fisher and Luke Joeckel were taken 1 and 2. Fisher has been just OK, and Joeckel was a total bust. Three Pro Bowl linemen got selected in the first round that year (Johnson, Long, Frederick) , it just wasn't those two. Scouting is an inexact science, even at the positions usually considered to be a "safe" draft pick.

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7 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by serutan // Sep 02, 2018 - 10:52pm

According to ESPN, it looks like we can add Paxton Lynch to the list.

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8 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by jtr // Sep 03, 2018 - 9:17am

I hope that he and Christian Hackenberg form a band. Or end up working at the same car wash or whatever.

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9 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Will Allen // Sep 03, 2018 - 10:34am

I encounter a ton of Broncos fans, and lemme just say that tickets for the Elway bandwagon are selling at at a very, very, steep discount.

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14 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Aaron Brooks Good Twin // Sep 03, 2018 - 11:14am

If that bandwagon is towing a Lombardi behind it, you can sign me up.

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18 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Will Allen // Sep 03, 2018 - 4:11pm

You and me both, brother, but the everyday football fan has the memory of a fruit fly.

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16 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by ChrisLong // Sep 03, 2018 - 12:00pm

Has anyone seen any reasoning behind the Bills cutting Corey Coleman? They've got Kelvin Benjamin and a bunch of scrubs, I was really surprised they cut Coleman. I've seen something about the coaches not liking his attitude, but that seems like a dumb reason to cut a talented guy.

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17 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Cogitus // Sep 03, 2018 - 2:31pm

It's the Bills and they traded up for Josh Allen, so Occam's Razor applies here: they're actually just that dumb, and there's no good reason behind the move. And in terms of shockingly dumb moves McDermott and Beane have made, this is up there, not because it's a move that will sink the franchise with long-term implications (like the Allen trade, although we did take on non-insignificant cap hit for Coleman), but because the sheer irrationality and lack of foresight involved. If you didn't like his attitude, how on earth did you not do your homework on him before trading for him? Beane mentioned he knew Coleman well from scouting him two years ago, so that should've been something you were aware of before making the trade in the first place. If you cut him because he had trouble with the playbook, as its been rumored, what the f*** did you expect to happen to a guy who's been in camp for less than two weeks? Your 2nd receiver is either Zay Jones, who is incompetent, or Andre Holmes, who wouldn't be rostered by any other organization, have some f***** patience and be realistic about your s**** roster.

Removing talented players for reasons of "attitude" and "fit" has been this regime's MO because they're incapable of evaluating talent on its own and only how it fits into their narrow perspectives on how football should be played (with lots of butt taps, "leadership", and "gritty" veterans). I literally have no clue what the plan is. They trade up for mega-raw, high potential players like Allen and Edmunds, which I think is stupid, but at least they understood last year's playoff berth was an aberration and we should be rebuilding around young, high upside talent. Then they go out and sign high-priced, aging, and downright terrible FAs like Star Lotulelei, Chris Ivory, and Trent Murphy, who have shown to be an utter waste of money and space to this point, although it is just the preseason. Coleman should have been a young player to be patient with and see if he develops because they're not realistically competing this year, but of course they go ahead and cut him, revealing yet again they have no real plan and are just monkeys flinging poop at a wall and hoping a football team somehow emerges from the stench.

I actually wish for Whaley and Rex Ryan back, that's how bad it is. I take that back, I don't wish for Rex Ryan, but Whaley and Anthony Lynn would've been nice, even if they have warts of their own. The only way this regime stays in power is if Allen somehow defeats the odds and is one of the 5-10% of QBs with his meager statistical profile who actually becomes a franchise QB. He's looked better than I thought in the preseason, and I'm rooting for the kid, but has such a long way to go and the coaching staff is comprised of such clown-faced, halfwitted dolts that it's gonna be hard to see it happening.

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19 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by dryheat // Sep 03, 2018 - 5:08pm

Soooo....down on the Bills this year?

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20 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by ChrisS // Sep 03, 2018 - 10:24pm

I'm impressed with the amount of restraint you show in this fine, fine analysis +1

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21 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Theo // Sep 04, 2018 - 10:58am

Let's apply Occam's razor to the next one:
Corey Coleman, a first round pick, played some games in 2016, broke his hand. Then in 2017, played some games, broke his hand.
Even on the 2016 roster (1-15) he couldn't stand out above Higgins, Louis and Pryor.
On the 2017 Browns (0-16) he only had 305 yards.
He couldn't make the 2018 Browns roster.
If he couldn't make the Browns and Bills roster - he's probably not so good. Or he is good, but the Browns and Bills are idiots.
I don't know which one is true. Maybe both.

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22 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Cogitus // Sep 04, 2018 - 12:42pm

Corey Coleman could indeed suck bad, I don't know. But the "reasons" why the Bills made the trade still proves they are idiots. Him being good is besides the point, as all that matters is that he has the POTENTIAL to be good, which is reasonably established considering his pedigree of a first-round pick, having a high FO Playmaker Score, and having flashed on that talentless 2016 Browns team. Given the roster and team (bad, rebuilding) the Bills possess, it doesn't make any sense to cut such a player, especially after surrendering a draft pick, eating 3.5 million of salary cap hit, and giving Coleman no time to adapt to the system or giving themselves time to properly evaluate him, which they obviously didn't do much at all before the trade either.

I think it's likely as you said that both are true: that Coleman probably isn't all that great but the Bills are also morons. Who knows about the Browns (at least in this scenario).

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23 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by Mountain Time ---- formerly Ninjalectual // Sep 04, 2018 - 5:02pm

Getting cut from the Bills may be a smart career move for him, in the long run. It'll be interesting to see where he signs now that he has some agency in the matter. Where will he have the best chance to develop? LAR? Seattle? KC/Chicago? Uh, New England? *shudder*

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25 Re: Cut Day Megathread

by jtr // Sep 05, 2018 - 9:47am

Not cut-day related specifically, but LeVeon Bell still hasn't reported to the Steelers. GM Kevin Colbert released an ominous statement about "preparing the players on our roster".

Pittsburgh also just restructured the contract of DL Cam Heyward to free up some cap space. And Mike Tomlin wouldn't give any specifics, but had a big grin on his face when asked if the team had any plans to improve the edge rusher position, which has been an underperforming unit and is very shallow with only three OLB's on the 53 man roster. So all of these factors are coming together to make a lot of noise on the Pittsburgh rumor mill about some sort of trade-and-extend, flipping Bell for a pass rusher.

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