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26 Mar 2018

Ndamukong Suh to Sign with Rams

Five-time Pro Bowl, three-time All-Pro defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh will sign with the Los Angeles Rams. ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Suh will sign a one-year deal for $14 million.

Suh will now line up with four-time Pro Bowl, three-time All-Pro Aaron Donald. There were eight defensive tackles in the NFL last year with at least 17 defeats (plays that resulted in a loss of yardage, a turnover, or a third-/fourth-down stop). The Rams now have two of them.

Posted by: Vincent Verhei on 26 Mar 2018

23 comments, Last at 29 Mar 2018, 10:57am by Raiderjoe


by Raiderfan :: Mon, 03/26/2018 - 6:58pm

And didn’t even interview with the Raiders, darn him.
Confused on what they are going to do about Donald’s contract. Are they still good on cap space?

by ChicagoRaider :: Mon, 03/26/2018 - 7:29pm

Suh has a 1-year, $14M, contract, so it should be possible to work anything out with the Rams' cap that needs to be worked out.

by James-London :: Mon, 03/26/2018 - 7:29pm

Wow. roflstomp coming to a Seahawks o-line near you. Poor Russell Wilson.

Phil Simms is a Cretin.

by James-London :: Mon, 03/26/2018 - 7:30pm

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by theslothook :: Mon, 03/26/2018 - 9:43pm

In light of this move the trading of Robert Quinn seems odd. He's a solid pass-rusher that would be absolutely awesome with these two next to him. In fact all of their moves give the sense that they're all in on this coming season

by Bright Blue Shorts :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 4:47am

Tanier wrote something last week about teams looking to win-now when they have a franchise QB on a rookie contract. That's what the Eagles did and it appears the Rams are looking to emulate.

by dank067 :: Mon, 03/26/2018 - 11:29pm

I wonder (a) how often Donald, Suh, and Brockers will be on the field at the same time and (b) whether the Rams won't get diminishing returns from paying all three while probably having to play one out of their best position (if not keep them on the sideline) on most downs.

That said, it will definitely be fun to watch whether this combination can live up to its potential.

by theslothook :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 12:03am

The jets tried something like this with Williams, Richardson, and Wilkerson. It worked, but it definitely was suboptimal.

by The Ninjalectual :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 12:14am

The Jets didn't have Wade Phillips though. I don't know what kind of guy Wade is, but if I were him I'd be reviewing tapes of those Jets to see what worked for them and how offenses responded.

Edit: unless Phillips is someone who's so obsessed with defensive tactics he already knows all of that without needing to look, which is entirely possible

by jtr :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 8:45am

Seems like Brockers will move to the DT3 spot. It's the best position on the field to be deep at, considering how much players rotate. Brockers played almost exactly 2/3 of the team's defensive snaps last year. So his workload won't change if each of their top 3 just plays 2/3 of the time.
And I think Suh and Donald is a perfect combination. Donald is primarily a 3 technique and Suh is largely a 1 tech. By the nature of those alignments, Suh will draw the vast majority of the double teams--you can't really double a 3 tech unless you leave a tight end on a defensive end, which is usually suicidal. IMO, what really makes Suh a special player is his ability to disrupt plays even when he's double teamed.

by Bright Blue Shorts :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 4:47am

I'm guessing that both Suh and Donald demand double-teaming from offenses. That opens a few things up for the rest of the defense.

by billprudden :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 11:20am

If we believe that Rams are weak at EDGE, I have a thought: If interior rush is great enough, can anybody pass rush from edges? Traditional LBs, safeties, slot corners, whatever?

I know this leaves all kinds of vulnerabilities to outside run game, but on pass downs, with this kind of push, do you need real edge rushers?

by jtr :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 11:41am

They definitely seem headed to a mold that's worked well for the last several years of Cardinals defenses and the Rex Ryan Jets. You set up a strong defensive and a good corner tandem, and then you send blitzes from every which way. If you have the secondary to regularly send five to seven pass rushers, you don't really need a great pair of edge rushers. It puts offense lines in the impossible position of either double teaming your defensive linemen and risking a free rusher or accounting for every possible blitzer but leaving an elite DT or two in a one-on-one matchup.

by mehllageman56 :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 2:24pm

In 2013 Calvin Pace got 10 sacks while playing at 3-4 linebacker with Wilkerson, Richardson and Quentin Coples rotating at 3-4 DE. Often Coples played Rush linebacker. A lot of those 10 sacks were as free rushers. This could work for the Rams.

by Will Allen :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 3:05pm

Yes,my guess is that Phillips will be engineering all manner of chaos, from all manner of angles, as opponents try to deal with two apex predators in the middle of the defensive front. Should be fun to watch.

by dmstorm22 :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 3:45pm

He's never really done that though from what I can remember? The Broncos blitzed Ward and slot guys occasionally, but then again they had Von & Ware.

I'm fascinated to see him run a defense with this type of personnel, not great edge rushers but dominant interior guys. Maybe similar to his time in Houston? Though back then they had Connor Barwin and Brooks Reed, but that team's strenght on D was the interior with Watt, Mario Williams and Antonio Smith.

by Will Allen :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 4:42pm

He's never been blitz crazy, but he has, as befits a guy who has run a lot of 3-4, been unpredictable at times as to which 4 guys are rushing. He'll run 4-3 with this group, of course, but it won't be the same positions rushing 95% of the time. Just for the sheer chaos, though, I hope he tosses in a few double A gap blitzes between Donald and Suh.

by jtr :: Wed, 03/28/2018 - 9:30am

Wade was blitzier than you remember in Denver. I just pulled the numbers from the 2016 Almanac because it's the file I have handy, and that year the Broncos were 5th in 5-man rushes and 3rd in 6-man rushes. He may not have a reputation as a wild blitzer like Rex Ryan, but he certainly is not afraid to bring the heat.

by Raiderjoe :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 3:30pm

has feell of lakers with karl Malone and gary p[ayton. almost certain Ramsm will make p[layofs but will see if can win it all or will fall short like that lakers team that was loaded with superstars. sometimes you bring in stars form other teams and it works out worse than if you had more homegrown tuype of team. of course, lakers lost in Finals so it wasn't like they didn'
t do good.

by jtr :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 3:35pm

Or in football, the 2011 Dream Team Eagles, who added Nnamdi Assogumwa (not gonna look up how to spell his name), Jason Babin, Vince Young, and DRC, only to go from 10 wins to 8 wins.

by Will Allen :: Tue, 03/27/2018 - 4:44pm

Malone and Payton were zombies by the time they were with the Lakers.

by turbohappy :: Wed, 03/28/2018 - 6:48pm

Exactly. Suh is only 31.

by Raiderjoe :: Thu, 03/29/2018 - 10:57am

Malone still playhed. it wasn't like earl cureton coming out of retirement to play few minutes for one {or both of rockets teams] that won titles in 1990s. Malone was starter or key guy off bench averaging double digits points and maybe 8 or 9 reboudns. btu anyway do know suh is mid to late uin career as opposed to very end like karl malone with lakers. that all said, my point was relaly about teams laden with superstars . sjut don't always think that studf works. sometimes yes, sometimes no. look at late 1990s yanekes where would have role players who were former sueprstars like tim raines, Darryl strawberry, jsoe Canseco and some others. that is case where it did work