Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

13 Dec 2007

DVOA on AOL: Week 14

Here are this week's comments on DVOA for AOL Sports, including a look at the teams that have been trending upwards and downwards during the season and some interesting stats for Sean Jones and Levi Brown.

Posted by: Aaron Schatz on 13 Dec 2007

17 comments, Last at 14 Dec 2007, 1:09pm by WhoDeyLuke


by Confessor (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 12:34am

links to itself ;(

by Insancipitory (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 12:44am

Speaking of Bobby Engram love (platonic) you would not believe how hard it is to find a Engram jersey in Seattle without spending 220 or so on an authentic replica. They don't even sell them at the team store, savages.

by Dr. Mooch (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 12:46am

What the hell is up with FO's interwebs? Server errors and upgrade messages all over the place. This article links to itself. Foxsports.com has the week 15 rundown posted up, yet no mention of it here. The homepage feels a bit like the basement.

by JJcruiser (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 12:49am
by Dave (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 1:09am

I love the Josh McCown comment. =D

by Eric J (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 2:10am

I see we're still dodging the Bengals... I'm guessing it's the 35-6 beatdown of Tennessee that's skewing their rating. Any updates there?

by Not saying (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 8:56am

I'd say 3 was off base since this kind of linking to itself happens a bunch, but there are other small problems. I can't access the archives or extra points, for example. Clicking on either just brings me to the main page.

But I'd like to say it in a more respectful manner. And that I appreciate that you're trying to work out some kinks in the system.

by Not saying (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 8:59am

While I'm at it, the link at the top of the AOL page that says "explained here" doesn't actually cut to the bottom. The anchor at the bottom is lower case (dvoa) while the link is listed as upper case (DVOA). Manually changing to lower case works. I'd imagine this is on the AOL guys, though. But I don't know how to contact them.

by mmm... sacrilicious (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 9:50am

The Jon Gruden picture... holy ginger.

Also, in the "on our radar" section at the bottom of the page: Do These Tattoos Rock, or Do They Stink?

Good to know AOL is successfully breaking into mainstream news.

by mmm... sacrilicious (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 9:53am

Also, here's the Rundown link, for those of you who are all antsy in your pantsy:

by Athelas (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 10:56am

I think Aaron explained very clearly that they're working to fix all these issues, but until the switch to the new servers is finished, there will be problems.
Clearly it means we are all going through a bit of FO withdrawal ;-)

by citizen jason (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 1:42pm

The stat about Levi Brown (that Arizona is the best running behind RT) was interesting, given the game against the Seahawks on Sunday. I came away from that thinking how bad he looked (Patrick Kerney just ran right around him more than once), but I guess I'm wrong. First time ever! Maybe ...

by Mark Glickman (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 6:17pm

Something tells me someone's asked this before, but why do these rankings differ from this week's DVOA rankings? Eg, Bills are 12 on the AOL list, but 17 in DVOA this week.

by Eric J (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 7:51pm

13 (Mark),

The power rankings are based on Weighted DVOA, in which the Bills are 13th. If I remember right from last week, Aaron manually downgraded the Bengals because he's unsure of why they're 12th, or doesn't feel he can explain it in the tiny space he gets for each team. So that's why the Bills are 12th.

by Not saying (not verified) :: Thu, 12/13/2007 - 8:12pm


Yes, I agree. I wasn't trying to complain, just to point out things that might not have been noticed. Thought it might get noticed if I wrote it here. Though I guess this is one of the least commented threads every week.

by Kurt (not verified) :: Fri, 12/14/2007 - 2:16am

See, this is the sort of thing that drives me nuts. The Giants' "usual second half slide" is based on wins and losses, period, full stop. If it ain't showing up in the record this year, it ain't happening (yet).

by WhoDeyLuke (not verified) :: Fri, 12/14/2007 - 1:09pm

If the facts are too hard to explain, just change them!