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10 Aug 2012

Tyrann Mathieu Kicked Off LSU Team

LSU has dismissed Heisman Trophy finalist Tyrann Mathieu from its football program for "violating school and team rules." Les Miles wouldn't give the details, but we do know that Mathieu failed a drug test and was suspended for a game a year ago. There seems to be some disagreement among articles whether Mathieu could possibly transfer to an FCS school and play right away, or whether he would need to wait a year. He absolutely would need to take a year off if he transfers to an FBS school.

Posted by: Aaron Schatz on 10 Aug 2012

25 comments, Last at 14 Aug 2012, 4:21pm by JD_KY


by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 1:30pm

Apparently the honey badger should have given a damn.

by Raiderjoe :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 1:32pm

Guy is jerk

by Revenge of the NURBS (not verified) :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 2:59pm

I assume the NFL isn't an option due to draft rules, but what about the CFL, AFL, UFL, Allen Wranglers, etc?

by Mr Shush :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 3:12pm

Indeed. Maybe playing FCS football for a year is still a better option if it is allowed, but it's not clear, and if he can't do that surely to goodness his best choice would be to play in a minor professional league?

by Eddo :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 3:55pm

Does anyone know what the NFL draft ramifications would be? Would Mathieu become a free agent next offseason, or would he go through the draft?

by dmstorm22 :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 4:04pm

Draft, I'm guessing. The UNC guys had basically the same thing. Robert Quinn and Marvin Austin were still in teh draft.

by Theo :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 4:15pm

When Maurice Clarett was suspended from the 2003 Buckeyes he couldn't enter the 2004 draft and entered the 2005 draft.
Maybe they'll be team mates. (Clarett played for the Nighthawks in the 2010 and 2011 seasons)

by tuluse :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 6:00pm

I believe the rule is 3 years after he graduates high-school he can enter the draft. It doesn't matter what you do during those years.

by complicated (not verified) :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 4:08pm

Wow heart broken. These guys don't understand when they make a critical mistake the under classmen are disappointed because they looked up to them. Here this guys has an opportunity that some kids could only dream of and he threw away his blessing. For what dope.

by GMan1 (not verified) :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 4:16pm

I doubt Mathieu won't be playing in the NFL. Dream still intact.

by t.d. :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 6:12pm

isn't he a midget who projects to be a 'project' at the next level?

by Theo :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 8:00pm

He's an inch shorter than a lot of cornerbacks.

by t.d. :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 8:39pm

no, he's listed as being one inch shorter than a lot of cornerbacks. I'm going to quote bleachereport: He's been referred to in conversations as the "defensive version of Tim Tebow...minus the good-guy character."

by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Sun, 08/12/2012 - 12:13pm

He strikes me more as the defensive version of Percy Harvin -- a little too short for a natural position, but fast and versatile. Also, he's crazy.

by t.d. :: Sun, 08/12/2012 - 2:04pm

yeah, i'm a fan, i just thought he provides 'how do you use this guy' problems

by Drunkmonkey :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 5:03pm

I'm pretty sure he can play right away if he transfers to anything below FBS. Isn't that exactly what Janoris Jenkins did? Transfer to Southern Alabama, that's where pretty much every troubled star goes once he gets kicked off his FBS team.

by usedbeard (not verified) :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 6:52pm

The problem with that is, it's believed that he violated NCAA Clearinghouse rules in regards to drug tests, which means he can't play anywhere... as far as NFL projections, he wouldve been a 4th and 5th rounder, at best. He's listed as a corner, but he basically plays the Harry Coleman role which is a rover. 5'8 180lb LBs don't go high.
I say all this as an LSU homer.

by jackiel :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 7:21pm

Devin Hester and Dexter McCluster went in the 2nd round. I could totally see a team use a similar pick on him.

by Mr Shush :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 7:36pm

He'd fit best with a creative team that wants to run a 4-2-5 base. I think someone out there would take a punt on him on day two.

by HawkFan2012 (not verified) :: Sat, 08/11/2012 - 5:29am

This is every team in the league now. Day 2 is correct (round 2-3)

by Mr Shush :: Sat, 08/11/2012 - 11:46am

Not every team. The Texans, for example, played their base 3-4 on 58% of snaps in 2011, a 4-3 2% of the time, and 6 or more DBs 31% of the time. Only 7% of their plays involved exactly 5 DBs, and not all of that was 4-2-5. But yes, it's increasingly common.

by HawkFan2012 (not verified) :: Sat, 08/11/2012 - 5:28am

NFL sources are now saying he's a 4th rounder at worst, and would have been a 1st rounder before today.

by Theo :: Fri, 08/10/2012 - 8:02pm

Transferring to McNeese State it seems.

by Podge (not verified) :: Sun, 08/12/2012 - 2:58pm

Seems he was thought of as a first rounder probably, maybe even top half of the round. Janoris Jenkins was thought of as a sure fire first rounder, and probably in the top 15 before getting turfed out of Florida, and ended up at #39. Jenkins was a much more traditional projection to the pros. Mathieu is a guy who doesn't appear to have a position. I mean, I guess you could project him to be some sort of mix between Troy Polamalu and Charles Woodson. Or he could just be a guy who doesn't have the physical size and skills or the cover skills to make it in the NFL.

by JD_KY (not verified) :: Tue, 08/14/2012 - 4:21pm

Come to Liberty! Not the first time a kid's been sent to that structured environment. Plus, he'll get to dismantle Wake Forest Game One.