Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

17 Aug 2005

Injury Could Mean Quick Exit for Mitchell

Hey, if Freddie Mitchell gets cut by the Chiefs, maybe the Eagles can sign him! Just kidding. I think. In all seriousness, Dick Vermeil made it clear that the reason Mitchell might not make the roster is because he declined to have arthroscopic surgery on his knee late last month. The surgery would've kept FredEx out for a few weeks, but as it stands, he still can't cut and only recently began running at full speed. For a guy with a history of underperforming, this seems like a curious decision.

Posted by: P. Ryan Wilson on 17 Aug 2005

24 comments, Last at 09 Sep 2005, 1:55pm by chris mumby


by Steven Cummings (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 10:43am

Hooray! Now Trent can take the time that he would've spent learning Freddie's route improv and use it to continue building repoire with the younger wideouts. Samie Parker it is!

by Adam (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 10:46am

I drafted Samie in the last round of a keeper league last week; it's an East Coast-based league, so no one had any idea who he was.

re FredEx: as long as he's not hired as a sideline reporter for MNF.

by B (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 10:58am

I hope FredEx's next carreer is Tara Reid's co-host on "Wild On E!"

by beedubyuh (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 1:08pm

The legend grows.

Wouldn't Tara Reid make a great sideline reporter for Monday Night Football, seriously, who wouldn't be for this? The ratings would skyrocket.

by NF (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 1:18pm

Tara Reid, she of cocaine and bad plastic surgery...

Oh, and where does Freddie Mitchell rate on the list of modern disappointments at first-round WR picks?

by B (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 1:20pm

At least when Namath tries to kiss Tara Reid, she wouldn't back off uncomfortabally.

by Karma (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 2:21pm

I am one serious bitch...don't mess with me...let this be a lesson to all of you!!!!

by Adam (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 3:04pm

NF, I'll throw a few out there:

In 2001, David Terrell, Koren Robinson, Rod Gardner and Santana Moss all went before FredEx, and I can't say much great about any of them.

In 2000, Peter Warrick, Plaxico Burress and Travis Taylor all went top-10, with Sylvester Morris and R. Jay Soward later in the round.

In 1999, David Boston (#8), Troy Edwards (#13).

1997's first round WRs were Ike Hilliard, Yatil Green, Reidel Anthony and Rae Carruth.

One more: Michael Westbrook went fourth overall in 1995.
See link for data.

by Adam H (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 3:45pm

Re #8 Hey at least Fourth Down Freddy didn't kill anybody. Go Birds! WOOHOOO!

by Matt (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 7:36pm

I see Adam beat me to a response about modern 1st round WR busts. Yeah, Fast Freddie barely even stands out against his own draft year, let alone all-time.

by Pat (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 8:53pm

Terrell, Gardner, Robinson, and S. Moss all caught between 70-90 passes last year. None of them are standout receivers, but Mitchell caught 44 last year - about half (he caught 59 the year before, so it's partly due to Owens, but not totally).

He's clearly the outlier in his class. The others are at least clear #2 receivers at this point. Freddie's not.

by Matt (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 9:04pm

Re #11 - Mitchell was also drafted later than all the receivers you list at #25 - Terrell and Robinson were both top 10 draft picks The expected performance (and investment) is quite a bit higher for a top 10 than a late rounder.

(and never mind that the next 20 or so picks after Freddie included Chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne, and Chris Chambers)

by Pat (not verified) :: Wed, 08/17/2005 - 9:26pm

Good point - but the previous poster seemed to be trying to say that Mitchell didn't seem like that much of a bust compared to the others listed there.

Mitchell is clearly the bust of his draft. Virtually all the other receivers around him are either solid #1 or #2 receivers, whereas he's not a solid #3.

At best, Mitchell's a good 4th receiver, but he can't run routes. He can improvise well, but so can a monkey.

I'm glad to see his ego might result in him getting cut from playing football at all this year. What's funny is that even though the Eagles are a bit thin at receiver right now, they absolutely made the right choice.

by Stiller Fan in Cle (not verified) :: Thu, 08/18/2005 - 1:29am

Maybe FredEx can get work being a correspondent from Eagles camp. I'm not sure why but for some reason I think that'd be hilarious...

by NF (not verified) :: Thu, 08/18/2005 - 11:18am

Stiller Fan:

I'm an Eagles fan, and I have a suspicion you might be right.

by Matt (not verified) :: Thu, 08/18/2005 - 2:23pm

Pat, I think you overestimate the improvisation ability of monkeys. Most monkey improv is predictable and filled with tired pop culture references.

by Pat (not verified) :: Thu, 08/18/2005 - 2:41pm


So is FredEx's.

::badump ching!::

by B (not verified) :: Thu, 08/18/2005 - 2:52pm

I think the real question is which one is better at poop-flinging.

by mactbone (not verified) :: Thu, 08/18/2005 - 3:33pm

I think Robinson, Terrel and FredEX have to be considered on the same level of bust status. Terrel barely got on the field until last season when he was the veteran reciever in Chicago and he certainly didn't get 70-90 receptions since Thomas Jones was the leader on the team with 56. It should also be mentioned that DT accounted for 1/3 of the touchdowns by recievers with his stellar total of one. Robinson will likely not play again what with pending suspensions or at least the expectation of a 4 game suspension in the near future (can't remember his status). FredEX was certainly a bad reciever and worthy of bust status but not head and shoulders worse than the chumps picked before him.

by Pat (not verified) :: Thu, 08/18/2005 - 4:46pm

Sorry, passes, not catches. Terrell had 90 passes thrown to him. Mitchell had 44 thrown to him. My bad.

No way Terrell and Robinson are as much of a bust as Mitchell is. While Terrell and Robinson haven't been stellar, they've been about league-average - but catching at #1/#2 receiver rates.

Let me put it this way: Mitchell would not have started for the Eagles this year - Lewis would've. All the other WRs around him in the draft at least have a starting spot in the roster locked up.

And I'm not counting Robinson's issues as well - just talking about his performance on the field.

by B (not verified) :: Thu, 08/18/2005 - 5:25pm

Didn't Terrell get cut by the Bears? I know he's on the Patriots now, but he's somewhere around 5th on thier depth chart, and would be very fortunate if he gets 44 balls thrown his way.

by Pat (not verified) :: Fri, 08/19/2005 - 11:28am

Whoops, you're right. I completely forgot about that.

I still say Mitchell's a bigger bust. Terrell got picked up by the Patriots, after all. Mitchell wouldn't've been touched by them. :)

by B (not verified) :: Fri, 08/19/2005 - 11:44am

Mitchell's the bigger bust, but they're in the same league. Of course Terrell could have something of a resurgance in NE, and be a valuable 4th or 5th receiver for five or so years, whereas Mitchell will be a sideline "reporter" for NFL access or E!

by chris mumby (not verified) :: Fri, 09/09/2005 - 1:55pm

How can you compare David Terrell to Santana Moss.

Santana Moss was never a bust!!!!!!!!!!
Santana moss caught 79 passes one year under the most conservative offense in all football the "Paul Hackett Controlled NY JETS"

Santana will never be a number 1 reciever but he is an excellent number 2.