Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

27 Nov 2005

Irvin Arrested on Misdemeanor Drug Charge

Michael Irvin's odds of making the Hall of Fame just got a lot longer. Technically, off-field activities, especially after a player's career is over, aren't supposed to affect his Hall of Fame status. But some voters went on the record when Lawrence Taylor was up for enshrinement as saying they wouldn't vote for him because of his previous illegal drug use. Presumably the same voters will vote against Irvin, who was narrowly defeated in Hall of Fame voting last year.

I would guess that Irvin has some kind of morals clause in his ESPN contract, and this could cost him that job, too.

Posted by: Michael David Smith on 27 Nov 2005

71 comments, Last at 30 Nov 2005, 1:14pm by zach


by Mitch (not verified) :: Sun, 11/27/2005 - 10:38pm

If this means no more Sunday morning footage of a hysterical Irvin holding hands with Steve Young, then we're all being shortchanged.

by kleph (not verified) :: Sun, 11/27/2005 - 10:45pm

come back marty griffith, all is forgiven.

by Shalimar (not verified) :: Sun, 11/27/2005 - 11:09pm

ESPNradio just announced this, "Former Cowboys star Michael Irvin was arrested Friday." Weird, considering they didn't mention that he is also current ESPN employee Michael Irvin. Irvin was on the pre-game show this morning. If he told ESPN about the arrest, then I think they would have suspended him if there was a chance he could be fired. If he didn't tell them, I would think that alone is a firable offense. He is supposed to be on Patrick's show every Monday, so I guess we'll find out tomorrow.

by Harris L (not verified) :: Sun, 11/27/2005 - 11:10pm

Why cant the police plant drugs on the persons of Steve Young and the entire Sunday Night Crew.

by Adam (not verified) :: Sun, 11/27/2005 - 11:26pm

Because then I wouldn't have anyone to make fun of on Sunday Nights.........

by Moses (not verified) :: Sun, 11/27/2005 - 11:27pm

I knew it was an act. Hopefully this violates his probation and the lead "Coke-boy" can serve his well-deserved sentence.

by Mike Ogorek (not verified) :: Sun, 11/27/2005 - 11:42pm

Why is this not hard to believe? The only idiot that actually backed up idito #2 (T.O.). I hope he losses his job and the hall of fame nomination. Now he and T.O. can have some more time to "bond" with each other and talk about how great they USED to be.

by primantis (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 12:25am

Hopefully this clown is off the air for good. ESPN employs plenty of truly awful "talent" across all sports it covers, but Irvin especially sticks out because a lot of people just detest this guy. I am certain Irvin costs ESPN more viewers than he gains the network. I have never understood why ESPN ever brought him on.

by Bruce Dickinson (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 12:31am

i don't think of him as an 'expert' and i disagree with a lot of his points, but am i the only person who actually enjoys listening to him? i only listen to dan patrick's radio show and not the sunday pregame, but sometimes he can cut right to the point of the point of view of many players.

by clod (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 12:38am

Michael Irvin, you have just been.....


by JonL (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 12:46am

getting jacked up is what caused this problem in the first place.

I wonder who his replacement might be, should he be fired. Andre Rison? Mark Chmura? Eugene Robinson is probably looking for work.

by Adam (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 12:52am

This serves ESPN right. They've continually tried to make Countdown more 'entertaining' with the likes of Irvin and Rush Limbaugh. They knew about Irvin's arrest record, and looked the other way. They've allowed Mike to drag the respectability of Countdown to uncharted levels. He was given an unconscionable amount of support to Terrell Owens and served as his mouthpiece through the whole episode, which is embarrassing to the network. Even Erik Kuselias of ESPN Radio stated that there were many broadcasters in house that were furious over the latitude Irvin was given on the Owens story. And for what? What in the end did ESPN get out of this whole deal? Was it really worth it for them in the end?

by Mitch (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 1:23am

#9 - I'll give you this: Irvin is a lot more camera-friendly and articulate than some other ex-players who landed cushy studio gigs, like Terry Bradshaw, Emmitt Smith, the Sharpe brothers, Cris Carter, and just about any ex-player who was on the CBS pre-game show in the past six or seven years. But that's not much of a compliment, as it's a case of "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king"... there have to be a few intelligent ex-players.

And while I'm thinking of football players and intelligence, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Kevin Curtis must have set the new league record for most brainpower behind a TD, as Fitzpatrick's 50 Wonderlic tossed a game-winner to Curtis's 48. The two smartest players in the league, as far as I know.

by primantis (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 1:39am

re #13:

Irvin is articulate??? The man treats the English language like the Bengals treated Baltimore today.

by krugerindustrialsmoothing (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 1:42am

re: #10

well, ok, but certainly today.

by jack (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 2:22am

wow, it's good to know that America still hates black people

by VarlosZ (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 2:29am

Jeez, didn't any of you read the article? The pipe belonged to a friend, and Michael just forgot to dispose of it.

Or are some of you so cynical that believe Michael Irvin would lie to the police and the public to cover up his own misdeeds? For shame, ye faithless wretches. For shame.

by putnamp (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 2:58am


feeling a bit heavy-handed tonight? I'm sure it had everything to do with Irvin being black, and nothing to do with his repeated attempts to insult the American intelligence with his ludicrous support of Terrell Owens, as well as his other off-the-wall opinionated tirades.

by Basilicus (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 3:29am

Well, he was on Sunday morning today, unfortunately, as I'm sure everyone noticed. It's unfortunate really. Since everyone probably saw him, though, I'm only bringing it up to point out how unfortunate it is that Irvin is unfortunately still on television, unfortunately. It's unfortunate.

by Browns Dude (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 3:31am


You win!

You're a real man of genius!

by Harris L (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 3:54am

I thought Irvin was one of the few people on ESPN who was not reactionary and predictable.

Is he really getting grief for publicly defending his friend? Steve Young told the world with a straight face that if he had to start a franchise, his first player would be Michael Vick and not LT. Young and Vick are friends. Bash him. It's unbelievable how common his 'expert' opinion is. Young also told us today that this years Colts offense is the best of all-time. Where was he last year when the Colt's O was better?

Irvin is original. This is the reason he is at ESPN despite his inability to speak the English language.

by Sean (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 4:08am

It's probably not the place to spout off on the country's ridiculous and highly discriminatory drug laws, so I won't. I'll just say that I feel badly for Irvin, and that while I didn't particularly enjoy him as a commentator, I would hate to see this bar him from the Hall of Fame, because he deserves to be in there.

by Cash (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 4:54am

Dude probably got pulled over with some weed.. what he does in his personal life has nothing to do with him on the air. I'm sure a bunch of you as we all do have a problem or bad habit that no one else agrees with. Then again all of you guys are probably 40 year old white men.. i'd want him off the air as well if I followed past patterns in life.

by Cash (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 5:03am

And I just watched ESPN and they announced this. He was charged for drug paraphernalia which was a pipe. Which could be a crack pipe or weed pipe. He says that it wasn't for him, but a friend who was over for Thanksgiving. And he will continue to work for ESPN. I know ya'll hate that! Stay up Irvin, shake them haters off!

by james (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 5:44am

Took me a while but I just found my race card. Is righteous indignation all the rest of you have? jk

Irvin is controversial that is the reason he is at ESPN.

I feel bad for the guy, because I'll bet that at least one of the guys bashing him on this site is sitting on a kiddie porn library and another posted from a hotel after paying for sex but before calling his wife from his "business trip."

I could care less what Irvin does to his own body as long as he entertains me when he is on television. If he's not selling it to kids then I don't give a fusk.

While you hypocrits are posting on FO, some kid/parent is selling coke in your neighborhood right now. If it bothers you that much then fix that problem. Or just continue to post your righteous indignation on FO.

I had no comment about his article and then I read the thread. Gimme a break. How many of you have driven drunk in the past year?


by VarlosZ (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 6:30am

Just for the record, since it's probably unclear from my previous post (#17), I don't think the pipe actually belonged to Irvin's friend, but I couldn't care less if he breaks the drug laws, and I sincerely hope this doesn't screw up his life too much.

by Dervin (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 8:31am

I can't be the only one who's disappointed in Irvin, I mean a misdemeanor, Come on!! I expect better than that - You can make a felony. I know you can.

by Ted (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 9:32am

Re #25,
While I personally am not sitting on a kiddie porn stash or cheating on my girlfriend, I see your point as to the hypocracy of some people to judge him badly for this. At the same time though, Irvin himself is a liar and a hypocrite. Surely I didn't imagine him claiming to have "found God" and put all this behind him. No, I don't believe it was a friend's pipe. And while carrying a pipe with him is not an issue in my book and nor do I care what Irvin does in his own time as long as he's not hurting anyone, I still hope this costs him his ESPN job. Not because he committed an offence but because he never deserved to be hired by them in the first place. I will also say that I hope this doesn't keep Irvin out of the Hall.

by fromanchu (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 9:48am

its good to see you still can't say anything about an individual black person without someone describing it as racism.

by MadPenguin (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 10:35am

You know I think ESPN has jumped the shark. There is too much ramblin and a lot of it is repetitious. I am fond of ditka's analysis. I enjoy Fox's pregame show, though I admit its mostly entertainment. As for Irvin I believe he should be judged as any regular person. If there is any special treatment because of his fame, then I'm going to have a beef. And he does occasionally have insight, his comment on how he read his quarterback before making his cut on his routes was informative. His support of TO was cronyism.

by Starshatterer (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 11:19am

Re: Michael Irvin the commentator.

He certainly is an expert at certain aspects of the game. During one of the pre-game shows this season, he (with the other ex-players from the Countdown crew) demonstrated how an experienced receiver could beat press coverage, and how an experienced defensive back could still cover him.

Inside moves, outside moves, spins, fakes, stop-and-go -- he reeled off an impressive array of techniques in just a few minutes. If ESPN does fire him, I'll miss the knowledge he brought to the discussion of receivers. Even though he is a total Cowboy and Hurricane homer.

by Andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 12:11pm

So if the pipe really just belonged to a friend and he wanted to dispose of it - why not just put it in a grocery bag and smash it, then throw it out at your house? Just some shards of broken glass then. Heck, don't even bother to break it, just throw it out in the trash can outside.

OTOH, driving through the 'hood in Philly, I've seen plenty of people taking a hit of crack or weed on their bong in their car at some out of the way place.

So no Michael, I don't believe that you were just holding that pipe for a friend who forgot it.

BTW, if you need an Original Whizzonator for your upcoming drug tests, I understand Onterio Smith's cousin has extras.

by Duane (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 12:29pm

Yeah, that whole belongs-to-a-freind routine is (virtually) always transparent. While we can't know for absolutely, we-weren't-there, sure, whenever mom found a pack of Marlboros in my jacket when I was seventeen: "They're Jim's, Mom. C'mon! I don't smoke."

by RALPHIE (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 1:06pm


by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 1:33pm

RE #34:

You lyin' S.O.B., what won't you do to get your official Red Ryder, air carbine action, two-hundred shot range model air rifle with the compass in the stock and that thing that tells time!

by Bassett (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 1:50pm

Re: 34 - That was classic.

Traveling this weekend, I totally missed this until Boomer's three minutes at the half last night... I like how he reported it, but seemingly shoved it under the rug as he cleared his throat.

by HLF (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 1:53pm

I believe most people detest open hypocracy more than any "sin" and more than most crimes. This is what inspires so much venom towards Irvin -- it's much more that he's a disdainful hypocrite rather than anyone caring if he smokes pot or not.

It's analogous to Rush Limbaugh and his secret drug purchasing/habit, or any one of hundreds of preachers going on about some "sin" or another and meanwhile secretly doing that and worse. We generally HATE that.

As far as this having ANYTHING to do with skin color, I would say it's sad but there are some people incapable of seeing a man as a person, and not as a "black" man or a "white" man. I didn't read anything prior to that post that saw Irvin as anything other than a man (a douchbag of a man, but a man), not as a black man or a white man. Speaking of hypocracy, before we accuse readers and writers we've never met of racism, let's be sure we're not guilty of it ourselves (by seeing every situation as a "racial" one).

The only thing I can think of more offensive than hypocracy is that Matt Millen keeps his job. (sigh)

Hopeless Lions' Fan,

by mawbrew (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 1:54pm

As a commentator, Irvin is causing me to wear out the mute button on my remote. Can't ESPN find anyone to advocate unpopular positions without being completely annoying?

by Andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 1:59pm

If ESPN is looking for another semi-illiterate barely able to correctly pronounce English pro-athlete to do controversial commentary for a while, I understand that T.O. is available for the rest of the season.

And he's clean of drug charges.

by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 2:07pm

Am I the only person that doesn't watch the pre-game shows? CBS's is ok, ESPN is only good for the Mayne Event, and the only thing Fox has going for it is that ditzy blonde chick that doesn't appeal to me in the slightest because I can go online and fine better and nakeder in about 20 seconds.

by johonny (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 2:08pm

All I'm saying is if Irvin's story is true and the guy really is your friend he'll own up to the pipe. Friends don't let other friends take drug charges for them. That's cold.

by princeton73 (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 2:26pm

Michael Irvin's black?

(who knew?)

by Basilicus (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 3:33pm

I stopped being a fan of Irvin a few drafts ago - when the Lions drafted Roy Williams he went on and on about how if Williams really loved the game he would have left school after his junior year instead of going back again to finish college and get his degree. I thought, "No, this is smart, and ESPN should get nuts on Irvin for being a role model and criticizing someone for getting more education." It was the most ridiculous argument, and Irvin was screaming it as if it personally offended him that Roy Williams put finishing college before the NFL. And I couldn't give a monkey's bucket if Irvin or Williams or your mom is black, white, green, or polka-dotted, but for a black role model to be saying on television that college is not worth finishing and that education isn't important seems to carry much more potential damage than a white role model saying so.

Also, some friend tells me to hold onto his crack pipe or whatnot, I tell him he takes it with him, kick him out for bringing it into my house in the first place (especially if I have kids - don't know if Irvin does or not), and if he leaves it with me I smash it and throw it out. Maybe I'm more straight-edge than most out there, but if Irvin really didn't want it with him, he probably shouldn't have - you know - brought it with him.

by Michael David Smith :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 3:41pm

From the article:

"Irvin said he put the pipe in his car because he didn't want it in his house where his children might find it."

by putnamp (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 4:31pm


Can I have your permission to hope he gets fired simply because I dislike his on-air personality? I mean, that's okay, right? Not hypocritical? For what it's worth, I've never driven drunk - never, and it amazes me but this seems to surprise some people, I am not sitting on a stash of kiddie porn, and I have yet to hire a hooker for any purpose whatsoever.

by Vash (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 4:33pm

I love Irvin on ESPN because he pisses everybody off.

by paulsonic (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 4:54pm

Irvin is "semi-literate" and barely coherent? damn, maybe #16 isn't so off base. You don't have to like the man but when you pull out crap like that it really does seem like you're just seeing what you want to see.

by Paul (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 4:56pm

I'm really not guilty of speeding Officer; it's just that a buddy of mine here for Thaknsgiving left a brick on my gas pedal

by princeton73 (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 5:32pm

"after the dog ate my homework, he fetched the crack pipe and put it under the seat"

"honest, officer"

by ajn (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 6:35pm

maybe it's stuart scott's crack pipe. he's black, right?

by ajn (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 6:36pm

just kidding...

by zach (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 6:46pm

From www.profootballtalk.com , which I know a lot of FO readers peruse, but no one's posted it yet so I will:

Our pals at thesmokinggun.com (we don't actually know anyone there, but they seem really cool so we'll make it look like we know them) report that ESPN analyst Michael Irvin has given inconsistent stories regarding the true owner of the sunglasses case containing a multi-colored pipe with marijuana residue along with plastic baggies containing marijuana residue, which coincidentally was tucked under the driver's seat of his 2005 Mercedes SL55. "It's my brother's," Irvin told the police at the time the items were found.

So maybe, gasp, Irvin really does smoke pot. The things the article goes on to suggest are a little crazy, though... such as DNA testing or dusting the bowl for fingerprints. I really hope none of my tax money is wasted on DNA testing a friggin weed pipe.

by james (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 6:51pm

I'll agree with those who call Irvin semi-literate. It's a misuse of the phrase but the point is easy to make out. Michael Irvin is as well spoken as a def mute.

I doubt the rest of the crew does the show in their regular speaking voice. But, it seems that Irvin doesn't care if noone can understand him. Sorry Irvin, but on TV, if you talk the same way you talk at home noone in tv land can understand you.

The others would be hard to understand as well, except they speak regular american english so that most of the audience can understand what they are talking about.

by masocc (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 8:08pm

You know what? You f#*&ing cares? Was he driving high? Nope. So why care? I don't want to turn this forum into a debate on the legalization of marijuana, but come on people.

My MAIN questions/points are:
1) How does this sort of thing get leaked so quickly? Do the police call the AP, and say "Hey, we just arrested M.I.!"
2) EVERY one of you that jumped to the conclusion that this was a CRACK pipe IS a RACIST (or at least guilty of stereotyping)! Feel free to rationalize things to yourself all you want, and backpedal as much as possible, but the fact of matter is you thought something along the lines of:
Black man, NFL player, Ex Coke-head = Crack Pipe.

Personally, I KNEW without the smoking gun's help that this was merely a pot pipe. How? Easy. The AP would report it AS a crack pipe, as that is the most sensational story. Since they reported it as a vaguely described pipe, they managed to stay within the truth, hoping (apparently correctly) that people would jump to the conclusion that it was a crack pipe.

End rant.

by BlueStarDude (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 8:17pm

Irvin was on the Dan Patrick radio show today and they discussed it as a crack pipe.

Irvin said he didn't throw it in the trash can (outside of his house, away from the kids) because people have been known to go through his trash.

Not sure whether he's telling the truth or not (how can anyone be?). But at the very least, he derves a little more than people jumping to conclusions and hoping that ESPN cans him because of this.

by zach (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 8:40pm

But at the very least, he derves a little more than people jumping to conclusions...
...and hoping that ESPN cans him because of this.
I disagree. I have been hoping for some time that ESPN cans him. The reason doesn't really matter to me.

by putnamp (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 9:09pm

2) EVERY one of you that jumped to the conclusion that this was a CRACK pipe IS a RACIST (or at least guilty of stereotyping)!

So it's impossible that the assumption at hand was just that people usually smoke pot from a bong or a rolled-up joint, rather than a pipe? People do use pipes, yes, but it's not the most celebrated method, so spare anyone who assumed it was a crack pipe your eager willingness to throw around the moral medicine ball. Please. This news item is not about race. Are there racists that read FO? Sure, could be. Does that make the story, or the general reaction, racist? Thanks, but no.

I wonder if people have any idea how tiring the word "racist" has become these days. It has virtually lost any semblance of context or scope. People throw it out and respond to it without taking so much as a moment to think about what it means.

Seriously - worry about yourself first. It may just be a limited sample size, but most of the people I've met in my life who were this eager to play "Find the Racist" were the ones who had the least awareness about issues of race and its scope in American society today.

by Elle (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 11:16pm

Okay, come on now...he just got caught - this time. TOO BAD!! If he was soooooo concerned about his kids finding out about the "pipe", why did he let his friend, who had the pipe (yeah right) into his home for Thanksgiving???

by Björn (not verified) :: Mon, 11/28/2005 - 11:52pm

Looks like we have a few "holier than thous" around.

I figured it was a hash pipe because pot isn't a big deal, and it didn't seem like a big deal when it was reported.

And how can you make any point as to Irvin's literacy? Have you ever seen him read or write anything? See my name for a definition of Literacy.

And, for the record, discriminating against black people for sounding like a significant part of the black population when they talk is racist.

by Ben (not verified) :: Tue, 11/29/2005 - 12:19am

Do we not all have issues that trouble our lives? I would hate to live where cameras are always waiting for a mishap on my part.
I know all you Cowboy hater are enjoying this. Remember we are all flawed.
I'm not a NY Giant fan. Yet, I had great respect for L.T and what he did on the football field.

by Travis (not verified) :: Tue, 11/29/2005 - 3:03am

On ESPN.com's home page right now:

IRVIN SPEAKS: Michael Irvin explains how "a friend's" crack pipe was found by police in his car.>

Reads to me like ESPN doesn't believe his excuse easier.

by Travis (not verified) :: Tue, 11/29/2005 - 3:04am

On ESPN.com's home page right now:

IRVIN SPEAKS: Michael Irvin explains how "a friend's" crack pipe was found by police in his car.>

Reads to me like ESPN doesn't believe his excuse either.

by zach (not verified) :: Tue, 11/29/2005 - 4:26pm

I don't think anyone is discriminating against Michael for the way he speaks, so much as making fun of him. That's not racism, that's humor. Racism is when you actually do something to harm someone. Hence, why I don't call Chris Rock, for example, a racist.

by zach (not verified) :: Tue, 11/29/2005 - 4:41pm

To clarify:

Making a joke about the way MI speaks: Humor (funny or not, depending on the joke);
Assuming that he must have had a crack pipe because you smoke pot out of a joint: Inexperienced with drug paraphernalia;
Assuming that he must have had a crack pipe because black people smoke crack: Stereotyping, erroneously;
Reporting that assumption as fact without evidence: Racism.

by Ken (not verified) :: Tue, 11/29/2005 - 5:26pm

Racism is NOT the issue here. Why do some people, especially the 'oppressed' race, try to avoid the main issue by crying racism? The man should not be a 'public figure' or anything else that exposes him to kids that might get the wrong message. That is, it's okay to do drugs because you can get away with it!

by zach (not verified) :: Tue, 11/29/2005 - 5:46pm

Well, it's okay to do drugs because they're fun.

by Ken (not verified) :: Tue, 11/29/2005 - 5:58pm

Zach...You're and idiot!

by zach (not verified) :: Tue, 11/29/2005 - 6:40pm

LOL, I guess that settles it.

by FastEddy (not verified) :: Tue, 11/29/2005 - 9:46pm

I don't particularly like Mike Irvin as a commentator. But he was a good WR and I enjoyed the heck out of his play. So I hope this doesn't mess his chances for the HOF.

On the subject of racism, how about Driving While Black? He gets stopped for some minor traffic violation and suddenly they find some drug paraphernalia under his seat? How does that happen to a white guy?

As a white guy, I've never been stopped much, but when I have been my car has never been searched. I demand equal treatment!

Seriously, this sucks. Traffic violation? Give the man a ticket and send him on his way, unless you have reason to believe he's impaired or something. But they didn't charge him with DUI or possession of drugs, did they? Looks to me like they just wanted an excuse to root around his car a bit.

What was the big deal traffic offense anyway? A busted tail light on a new Mercedes hardly seems likely.

by FastEddy (not verified) :: Tue, 11/29/2005 - 9:53pm

Oops, just found out the stop was for speeding. Seems a legit stop. I still don't like the whole car search thing though.

by zach (not verified) :: Wed, 11/30/2005 - 1:14pm

You don't (technically) have to let the cops search your car if you're stopped for speeding. I think MI got arrested for an outstanding warrant stemming from a traffic violation. Presumably, the cops found his bowl when one of them were driving his car back to the station.

It does seem a bit fishy to me, but if there was wrongdoing by the cops, it doesn't seem so much like a race issue as a privacy issue.