Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

15 Jul 2005

Tip Sheet: Right Tackles Wanted

Scott Gragg is a 10-year veteran offensive tackle who doesn't have a job, but it seems certain that someone will want him. There's been a high rate of turnover at right tackle this off-season, and it'd be nice to have a dependable veteran on hand. I don't understand why the Lions, whose coach, Steve Mariucci, worked with Gragg in San Francisco, don't sign him. Right now they project Kelly Butler, a sixth-round pick last year who hardly played as a rookie, as their starter.

Len Pasquarelli also reports on his usual blend of contracts, trades, and other front-office dealings.

Posted by: Michael David Smith on 15 Jul 2005

16 comments, Last at 18 Jul 2005, 3:17pm by Harris


by the K (not verified) :: Fri, 07/15/2005 - 7:13pm

Pasquarelli is superb. Thanks for the link, FO. You know, since ESPN never uses him on TV, you guys should try and lure him over to FO *wink wink nudge nudge*

by fyo (not verified) :: Fri, 07/15/2005 - 8:33pm

"Seattle may allow a pair of young but inexperienced veterans (Sean Locklear and Wayne Hunter) to fight it out in camp for the right to start."

There are two ways in which a player can be a "veteran" in my opinion (not counting discharging firearms). One is being NOT young. The other being experienced. These guys are, by Pasquarelli's own words, neither.

by Richie (not verified) :: Fri, 07/15/2005 - 8:51pm

The Pac Man thing brings up a topic I've often thought about.

How tough would it be to "dump" your posse if you hit it big like that?

Also, if you get a huge contract (or win the lottery), how do you decide where to draw the line in regards to the people (family, friends) you are willing to help financially?

by J (not verified) :: Sat, 07/16/2005 - 1:01am

Thanks Richie, it's difficult to find positives of being poor/middle.

One positive..I will never have to decide where to draw a line, or even think about where to draw the line. Plus, I do not have a posse.

Heres to being middle.

You must play the lottery often...good luck to you. If you do win, I would like to be on the good side of the line. But then I would have to decide where to draw my line, and I do not want to have to draw a line. So when you win the big jackpot, you keep, but thanks for the offer.

by dedkrikit (not verified) :: Sat, 07/16/2005 - 4:39am

(anyone else confused by "J"s comment?)

I know Pacman got into some trouble at a club, but I don't recall reading much about his posse. Can someone fill me in on the details of that?

As for drawing the line on big money -- my plan (one can dream, right?) is to be as secretive about it as possible. And then support friends and family through some made-up company or what not so I won't be placed in such a position to say yes or no.

by Kaveman (not verified) :: Sat, 07/16/2005 - 11:51am

#2: It seems that a number of the football media have taken to calling a non-rookie a veteran.

by BlueStarDude (not verified) :: Sat, 07/16/2005 - 2:24pm

Pac Man not falling out of the top 10 on draft day was just as surprising to me as Mike Williams going to the Lions or Aaron Rodgers falling to 25. From the interviews Pac Man gave on ESPN and Fox Sports you could just tell this guy was sharp as a bean bag - if nothing else, a good indication that he wouldn't soon be addressing his reported "character" issues.

by Vince (not verified) :: Mon, 07/18/2005 - 4:51am

I've always been fascinated by the way athletes (or lottery winners or whatever) deal with going from poverty to fabulous wealth overnight, and specifically how they deal with their family. Because on the one hand, you'd like to help your family if they need it, but you don't want them to just leech off your success

I once read a Shaquille O'Neal interview on this topic, and I believe he found an ideal solution. He said that he would never just give money away to family members, but he would give them a chance to earn money by performing jobs for him. He then gave an example of paying his sister something like $1,000 to make him a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

by malene, cph, dk (not verified) :: Mon, 07/18/2005 - 7:08am

re: 2 & 6:
yeah, what's up with that?

You'd like to think at least SOME sportswriters would have editors bright enough to say, "hey, phrases like "the second-year veteran"... mm... maybe not really smashingly superb writing there"

by Tim (not verified) :: Mon, 07/18/2005 - 10:54am

Re: 9 et al

"Veteran" is an official term for a non-rookie. Everybody in the NFL is either a rookie or a veteran, except for the small number of "first-year players," who are guys that have been on a roster for at least some period of time, but not even close to a full season. The NFL calls second-year players "veterans," and it always has.

by Pat on the Back (not verified) :: Mon, 07/18/2005 - 12:37pm


1) That is incredibly demeaning. I think that falls somewhere between "Welcome to slavery" and "Bow to me!"

2) Shaq didn't come up with that idea. He stole it from a bud lite commercial where the dude signs the contract and buys the reporter's watch and beer.

by Ima Pseudonym (not verified) :: Mon, 07/18/2005 - 1:23pm

When it comes to taking care of family, I always liked the rule: give them enough so that they can do anything they want, but not enough so that they can do nothing.

by Richie (not verified) :: Mon, 07/18/2005 - 2:16pm

#5 - I took from the article that the Titans felt that Pac Man is a guy who doesn't get into much trouble until his friend from Atlanta come into town.

Sounds like if he wants to succeed in the NFL and life he really needs to cut ties with those guys.

by Richie (not verified) :: Mon, 07/18/2005 - 2:16pm

#4 - I'm really not sure what your point is. FWIW, I almost never play the lottery.

by Ray (not verified) :: Mon, 07/18/2005 - 2:26pm

I my win-the-lottery dream world, I'd be willing to pay off my family's debts (and some friends too). Clear off their credit cards, mortgages, car payments, etc. and then give enough of the money away to charity that they couldn't expect me to give them any more.

Once you're debt free, you're in a better position than 95% of other Americans, and should be able to do very well for yourself.

by Harris (not verified) :: Mon, 07/18/2005 - 3:17pm

I'd have to set a few personal rules for dispensing my sudden windfall:

1) If I haven't seen you in a year or talked to you in two years, you get nothing.

2) Family members and select friends get one big check ($50,000-$100,000) and that's it barring catostrophic illness.

3) Everyone else who wants money must perform for me. Dance, monkey! I command you!