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03 Jan 2006

Brees Needs Surgery

The fact that Drew Brees was injured makes the point moot, but before the season finale, I was thinking the Chargers shouldn't play Philip Rivers. They probably could've gotten a first round pick for him this offseason, but after his performance Saturday, I'm guessing that might be a little tougher sell. And depending on how quickly Brees recovers, Rivers may not be going anywhere at all.

Posted by: P. Ryan Wilson on 03 Jan 2006

9 comments, Last at 04 Jan 2006, 3:52pm by Sean D.


by ajn (not verified) :: Tue, 01/03/2006 - 11:55am

i would think that not playing rivers would've been pretty transparent. it's like when they don't let critics see movies before they're released - the studios know the movie's awful, they just want that first weekend of moveigoers to waste their money before the word gets out. i think that aeon flux was one such movie.

anyway...this is turning into an awful situation for the chargers. brees may not get his velocity back (right, jets fans?) and rivers' poor decision making (after TWO years spent learning) is troubling. are san diego fans on the cusp of the aj touchey-feeley era?

by David (not verified) :: Tue, 01/03/2006 - 12:59pm

It's not like Rivers was playing under pefect tryout conditions. With rain, barely any practice, and not a single pass attempt in a professional game for twelve months...well, any team who takes that as a reliable indicator of his potential is a team he wouldn't want to sign with anyway.

by Neal (not verified) :: Tue, 01/03/2006 - 1:37pm

I had surgery on a torn labrum (too many years of playing SS in softball!). I was 27 years old, and it took me just about a full year to regain my full arm-strength. Now, I didn't have the access to facilities that Brees will have, but I would not be 100% confident that he will be ready for the start of next season.

by mawbrew (not verified) :: Tue, 01/03/2006 - 4:43pm

It's funny about Rivers, based on his limited play to date it's not possible to judge whether he's the player the Chargers thought he was when they drafted/traded for him. But his two years of inactivity will almost certainly have affected his value. I can't imagine anyone offering a top ten pick for the guy now. Certainly some of it is psychological but there's also reason to believe that if this guy was lighting it up in practice/camp the Chargers would have found more opportunities for him to play.

by Kibbles (not verified) :: Tue, 01/03/2006 - 8:38pm

Count me in the camp that thinks Rivers didn't account too poorly for himself. His first significant action... well, ever, right? How many guys are going to do better than Rivers did in their real test? ESPECIALLY when you consider it was raining, and he was facing one of the top-10 defenses in the NFL (and wasn't getting a whole lot of protection).

by charles (not verified) :: Wed, 01/04/2006 - 2:38am

san diego's offensive line was horrible saturday, and champ bailey bottled up mcardell all day, so cut rivers some slack.

by Basilicus (not verified) :: Wed, 01/04/2006 - 3:06am

There's talk that Schottenheimer only played Brees because he would have gotten a few hundred thousand dollars in contractual bonuses had he won ten games. Is it me or do performance clauses not make as much sense for coach contracts as they do for player contracts?

by mawbrew (not verified) :: Wed, 01/04/2006 - 10:28am

Re: 7

I'm with you. A coach's incentive (continued employment) to win games is pretty obvious without any contract bonuses. In fact, incentives in his contract can easily be counterproductive to the overall interest of the organization. That said, I doubt the contract incentives influenced Marty's decsion on who to play. But it does create that nagging 'apparent' conflict of interest.

If the negotiations come down to a few hundred Gs,the club is better off just giving the coach the money than attempting to save the cash by throwing it in incentives.

by Sean D. (not verified) :: Wed, 01/04/2006 - 3:52pm

Just thought I'd put this out there. As a Chargers fan (and a representive for other Chargers fans I know), in a home game vs. a divisional rival I expect the team to play all healthy starters unless there is a need to rest players for the playoffs (like last year).