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13 Mar 2006

FO NCAA Tournament Pool

We've set up a Yahoo! NCAA bracket pool for FO readers. I came in second in the pool two years ago, which shows just how little our fanbase knows about college basketball. No prize, other than bragging rights. If this group fills up, I'll start another one. Group ID: 63739. Password: dvoa.

Posted by: Al Bogdan on 13 Mar 2006

34 comments, Last at 26 Mar 2006, 9:46pm by Trogdor


by Becephalus (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 11:27am

I guess I am in, I know fairly little about college basketball so here goes nothing.

Of course given the success of my picks for the minnesota state HS hockey tourney (something I know quite a bit about) knowing something isn't always a good thing.

by r.j. (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 11:34am

I'm in, though I'm a baseball guy. My alma mater stinks (Missouri), so I'm just rooting against all the other Big XII teams.

by ToxikFetus (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 12:13pm

Since my alma mater's only Div I sport is hockey, I'll root for my home city's best shot at the championship. Go Nova!

by Ryguy (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 12:44pm

Title of the Group: 'Ron Dayne Fans'


by Ryguy (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 12:45pm

Also a short point:

Oral Roberts has a 1 in 8 shot of beating #1 seed Memphis. (website)

by B (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 1:26pm

I just don't understand this concept of an NCAA championship being decided by a tournement. Shouldn't they have a seris of bowl games whose contendors are determined by obscure formulas and political backscratching, and then have the winner declared by a computer or a poll?

by Sophandros (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 1:32pm

ORU has a 1 in 8 chance of staying within 20.

by Shelley (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 2:30pm

Re: #6
That's how they determine the tourney seeds in the first place. It's the best of both worlds.

by Rughead (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 2:45pm

Re: #8
That explains how Cincinnati did not make it

by Money (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 3:24pm

Its full already.

by JRM (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 4:03pm

My wackier picks are Wisonsin-Milwaukee into the Sweet 16, Pitt int the Elite Eight, and Gonzaga winning it all.

The CBS crew groaning over four MVC teams getting in was horrible. Cincinnati was the best team left out- did they really want NINE Big East teams?

by Richie (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 4:53pm

I just created another group:
ID# 80699
password: dvoa

by GBS (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 5:36pm

What's the Name for the new group? Go Falcons?

by Bob (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 5:40pm

Considering that no #16 seed has ever beaten a #1 seed, I wonder how it's figured that ORU has a 1 in 8 shot against Memphis. Or maybe it means ORU will sink 1 of 8 shots in the game. That sounds a lot closer to reality.

by Sophandros (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 6:37pm

I like Ken Pomeroy's stats, but I wonder whether he trusts his own judgement with this one, because Memphis is one of the top defensive teams in all the land, and we all know the saying of defense as it relates to championships...

by Sophandros (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 6:40pm

Let's see if DeShaun Foster can defeat the Ron Dayne Fans in aggregate points...

by the K (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 6:54pm

I'm in the DeShaun Foster group, as The Baltimore Jamals.

by Richie (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 7:46pm

The group I started is called DeShaun Foster.

by Vash (not verified) :: Mon, 03/13/2006 - 9:10pm

I'm in DeShaun Foster with the name Bill Stickers is innocent! (link)

by Ruben (not verified) :: Tue, 03/14/2006 - 12:13am

Fear the completely uninspired picks of "Michigan got robbed"!

by Tim Gerheim :: Tue, 03/14/2006 - 2:41am

I always love filling these out, because I pay no attention to basketball. I never do any actual thinking or research. I usually just pick the schools I like or the ones I've heard more about on sports radio over the course of the spring, plus toss in whatever upsets I like. Last year I came in third, I believe, certainly top 10, in the FO challenge. This year, I'm due for spectacular failure.

by james (not verified) :: Tue, 03/14/2006 - 12:00pm

would you be kind enough to let a yahoo! rookie know how to sign in to this madness

by Sid (not verified) :: Tue, 03/14/2006 - 2:05pm

RE: 5

But I’d give ORU a 1-in-15 chance of a win.

by Sid (not verified) :: Tue, 03/14/2006 - 2:09pm

RE: 22

Click my name. Sign in with your ID, then click sign up. Enter the information, and then when it asks you about a group, say you want to join a group and enter ID# 80699
password: dvoa

by Mikey (not verified) :: Tue, 03/14/2006 - 3:42pm

re: 2 - I'm a Mizzou grad too. Keep the faith.

Every year I get pretty pumped up for the tournament, mostly because I'm in a "mathematically correct" pool that would probably appeal to the FO crowd.

The scoring is based on "round x seed". Your points for each correct pick are the seed of the winning team times the number of possible winners of that game. So if Duke (#1) wins their opening game (2 possible winners) that's 2 points. If Kansas (#4 seed) wins the championship game (64 possible winners) that's 256 points.

It's been a longstanding pet peeve of mine that NCAA pool scoring doesn't reward picking upsets and in many cases the scoring doesn't follow any logic (yes, I know I get worked up over stupid things). This pool solves both problems. I don't know why this kind of pool hasn't caught on more widely. Ours has 300 players and it's a blast.

by Dr. Scoring Exploitation (not verified) :: Tue, 03/14/2006 - 5:39pm

The scoring is based on â??round x seedâ??.

Interesting. How do we join this pool?

by Matthew Furtek (not verified) :: Thu, 03/16/2006 - 3:30am

Rats! It's full again! You bastards did all that so that I would have to create a Yahoo account, didn't you?

by Trogdor (not verified) :: Thu, 03/16/2006 - 4:09pm

Alas, I didn't get in either group, although I have watched maybe three games this year and haven't been paying the least bit of attention, so it's just as well my ignorance isn't on display (on this topic anyway). But I do need to know, why isn't this a national holiday? Is anyone actually working right now? Things just worked out that I'm off today and my job tomorrow will be a quick morning job, so I'll be home in plenty of time to watch the Buckeyes (maybe even go see them live... eh, it's probably sold out by now), but I clearly have no interest in working today anyway. Go... um... Wisconsin-Milwaukee!

Also, I really want to hurt that jerk in those Cingular ads. Is it really impossible to find a likable spokesman these days? Why does every commercial make me hate the company and everyone involved with it?

by GBS (not verified) :: Fri, 03/17/2006 - 9:38am

Hmmmm. Four 14s and six 13s for the Ron Daynes. How are the DeShaun Fosters doing? I'm in another pool where you select 8 teams and earn their seed value every time they win a game. This is the first time I've been in a pool with that format but I definitely like it.

by Falco (not verified) :: Fri, 03/17/2006 - 11:07am

Three 14's and 10 13's. It's all downhill from here. Last year after the first round, I was leading in the work pool and basking in the glow of being the only person to pick Bucknell over Kansas. It did not last.

I'm also a Missouri grad. At least I am better at picking when they are not in the tournament. They regularly destroyed any chance I had by picking them too far, and then the one year I gave up hope because Quin turned top 20 talent into a 12 seed, they go to the elite 8.

by the K (not verified) :: Sat, 03/18/2006 - 6:27am

The most glorious moment of this year's bracket for me: a nice total of four (yup, all of them) wrong picks in the 5-12 matchups. Sigh.

by GBS (not verified) :: Mon, 03/20/2006 - 11:17am

One 50, two 49s, and nobody else better than 46 for the Ron Daynes. I had Kansas in my final four so I was in trouble early, even though I was tied for first after the first round. Now, I'm dropping like a stone.

by Matthew Furtek (not verified) :: Fri, 03/24/2006 - 3:01am

Did anyone catch the late endings? UCLA down by 9 and go on an 11-0 run to win. Pittsburgh tie with 5 seconds left... Texas takes the ball and hits a 3 with no time left... oh, and DUKE LOST!

I always thought Adam Morrison was a punk... pushing off, flopping, and trash talking college nobodies, so I took great pleasure in watching him cry with 1.9 seconds left, even though the game wasn't over. What a fun night.

by Trogdor (not verified) :: Sun, 03/26/2006 - 9:46pm

I agree on Morrison. I didn't know much about him coming in, aside from his hilarious facial hair, but watching him cry like that during the game was tremendous. I can understand breaking down after the game, I wouldn't be hard on him for that. But at the time, they still had a chance to win! Pull it together, man!

Also, I'm so glad UConn lost. There's just something about that team I despise, and as nice as it would have been to see them lose to Albany, I'm glad they got their comeuppance today. Now I guess the team I most want to lose is Florida - something about the way those guys whine after every call, I just don't like them. They've gotten a few technicals for whining so far, and probably should have had about thirty more. What a bunch of punks, I really hope they get crushed by whoever.