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27 Oct 2006

Huard Injured in Practice, Uncertain for Game

Elizabeth Merrill of the Kansas City Star is reporting that Damon Huard suffered an "undisclosed" injury at the end of practice on Thursday and may miss this weekend's game versus Seattle. If you had Brodie Croyle and Seneca Wallace on your Loser League team, well, Sunday might be the finest day of your entire life.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 27 Oct 2006

50 comments, Last at 29 Oct 2006, 1:15pm by Travis


by Mike (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 12:58pm

Free Damon Huard!

by manning,E. (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 1:05pm

hilarious chiefs loose thier FIRST! and second string qbs. barry word is waiting on speed dial in case larry johnson gets hurt. jets are better off with mangenuis.

by zip (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 1:08pm

hilarious chiefs loose thier FIRST! and second string qbs. barry word is waiting on speed dial in case larry johnson gets hurt. jets are better off with mangenuis.

Let me guess, you have a Fox blog?

by BillT (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 1:15pm

This blows. I'm surprised The Damon Huard Show hasn't got more attention from the media, its really incredible that he's 3rd in DVOA after throwing one pass in 5 years.

by Jesse (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 1:16pm

The Brodie Croyle Show. Intriguing. Good thing I'm going to be wathing the Seattle-KC game:


by DavidH (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 1:17pm

hmm, i guess this means i should snag the Seattle D off the waiver wire this week

by the K (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 1:19pm

You'd also be behind so far by now that it wouldn't matter. Heh. Poor KC.

by Pat (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 1:37pm

#7: I dunno, I think that person would still be beating me. I think I'm actually exceeding the point total you'd get for getting a penalty each week. Serves me right for believing in Brandon Lloyd and Mike Williams.

And also, new note: never pick a RB who's switching teams and not the primary RB (Mike Anderson) or an RB in an RBBC under a new coach (Mewelde Moore). I figured both Anderson and Moore were pretty good guesses to get over 10 carries most games. Yeah. Not so much.

by Becephalus (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 1:43pm

Poor Huard, he was looking so good.

by Becephalus (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 1:44pm

Clearly the football gods disapprove fo Herman's clock managment and are tyring to send him a message.

by MJK (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 1:51pm

Did Herm Edwards sleep with the Football Gods' daughter or something? First Pennington, then Pennington AND Fieldler, and now Green ADN Huard..

by Matthew Furtek (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 1:52pm

I place $200 on "throwing hand hitting helmet".

by Athelas (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 2:03pm

Word is it may be a groin injury.

by Athelas (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 2:03pm

Word is it may be a groin injury. (or if you prefer, he has a groin)

by princeton73 (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 2:07pm

suffered an “undisclosed� injury

I sprained my undisclosed once--hurt like hell

by fyo (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 2:14pm

I see my bookie didn't change its odds yet... Seattle for the win.

by MRH (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 2:29pm

If Croyle is the qb they should put in 7 linemen, 3 TEs, and direct snap to Larry Johnson. He can throw an option pass once in a while.

by Rich Conley (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 2:33pm


I'd love to see a team do soemthing like that... just go completely off the books one day. It would certainly throw out the other team's game plans.

by coltrane23 (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 2:35pm

So conflicted . . . I'm not a big believer in the Seneca Wallace Experience, so I took the Chiefs (+2) this weekend. But now the teams will be trading turnovers, so the 'Hawks have a really good chance, which pleases me as a fan.

Too bad for Huard, he was having a pretty nice season so far. And was likely to have a nice day against SEA, since they're changing safeties.

by DavidH (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 2:51pm

Hmm, a player with 52 career pass attempts vs. a player with 7 career pass attempts. In the 8th game of the season. I wonder if this is some kind of record for fewest combined pass attempts for the starting QB's in a game...

I wouldn't be surprised if there's been a Week 1 game involving two rookies, so the record might be zero. But if you limit it too NON-opening games, this surely has to be pretty near the top (bottom?) of the list.

by DavidH (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 2:55pm

By the way, their combined line:
31/59 (52.5%), 336 yds, 5.7 YPA, 1 TD, 5 INT, 39.9 rating

by NF (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:00pm

PFP 2006 notes injury concerns for Brodie Croyle, given that in the past he has already torn both ACLs and a labrum. The only other QB on the Chiefs roster is Casey Printers, who got benched in the CFL in 2005. The upshot of this is that we are closer to seeing Jeff Smoker start a game in the NFL. Anyone else have any guesses on who will start for the Chiefs if Croyle goes down? All QBs that are not FAs are on this list. I for one had no idea Ryan Fitzpatrick was still with the Rams.

by Jason Whitlock (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:06pm

Jeff George!

by Jeff George (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:09pm

Hey guys, what's up?

by Jeff George (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:10pm

Aw, you beat me to it...

by CaoZhi (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:11pm

As far as I know, Printers is a free agent. Unless a last minute signing is made, backing up the injury prone Croyle would be third string RB Dee Brown, who saw some action at QB at Syracuse. Beyond that, I think the fifth string 'dire emergency' QB is Eddie Kennison. I'll have to consult my dartboard for scenarios.

by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:19pm

Yeah, but it is really a surprise that Jason Whitlock thought about Jeff George before even Jeff George did? I don't.

I still think I'm going with KC in this game. Brodie Croyle / Larry Johnson is still better than Seneca Wallace / Maurice Morris.

by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:24pm

*I stink. That should have been either:

"Yeah, but is it really a surprise that Jason Whitlock thought about Jeff George before even Jeff George did? I don’t think so."


"Yeah, but is anyone really surprised that Jason Whitlock thought about Jeff George before even Jeff George did? I'm not."

by DavidH (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:31pm

OK, I don't know why this is still holding my interest, but it is. So I skimmed the games this year and found the 10 games with the most QB inexperience:

(hope this looks ok)
DATE GAME ..... QB1 (ATT) QB2 (ATT) ..... TOTAL
22-Oct ARI@OAK ….. Leinart (86) Walters (104) ….. 190
1-Oct CLE@OAK ….. Frye (257) Walters (32) ….. 289
8-Oct OAK@SF ….. Walters (55) Smith (298) ….. 353
8-Oct KC@ARI ….. Huard (355) Leinart (9) ….. 364
16-Oct CHI@ARI ….. Grossman (347) Leinart (46) ….. 393
15-Oct SD@SF ….. Rivers (135) Smith (317) ….. 452
22-Oct SD@KC ….. Rivers (74) Huard (425) ….. 499
1-Oct SF@KC ….. Smith (273) Huard (332) ….. 605
8-Oct BUF@CHI ….. Losman (334) Grossman (320) ….. 654
8-Oct PIT@SD ….. Roethlisberger (634) Rivers (98) ….. 732

by DavidH (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:32pm

OK, now I know never to use "at" symbols in my posts here.

by JonL (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:36pm

Argh. Hasselbeck was my fantasy starter, and Huard was my backup, so thanks to the waiver wire it's Chaz Batch time. Right now I'm scrambling faster than Mark Brunell (which isn't all that hard, actually).

by JCD (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:48pm

I wonder what Vinny Testaverde is up to.

by Diane (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:54pm

A few weeks ago, I placed a Futures bet for Seattle (pick'em) over KC. So, Hasselbeck goes down, and I'm thinking I'm cooked. Now Huard goes down, and I'm thinking I might not be so cooked.

Final score ... 9-6 Seahawks anyone?

by Pangloss (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:54pm

I, for one, am certain that this is the best of all possible outcomes for the Chiefs. Huard's injury occurred expressly to get Brodie Croyle into the game.

by zip (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:55pm

What do we have to do to see Eddie Kennison play QB? Nothing would be a better story than a veteran WR quaterbacking his team to a win.

Or maybe Seneca Wallace counts as a vetaran WR? :)

by ntr Bill Simmons (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 3:59pm


by MRH (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 4:05pm

Re #35 - Kennison has already returned (I use the term loosely) punts when Hall has been hurt. When was the last PR/QB in the NFL?

by Rich Conley (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 4:11pm

Maybe I should pick up Eddie Kennison and hope Brodie Croyle gets hurt too.

QB at WR has got to be a serious points upgrade.

by DrewTS (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 4:14pm

Re 37

I vaguely remember Ray Lucas playing special teams, but I'm not sure if he was a returner or coverage guy.

And I'm pretty sure that Joe Theismann returned punts earlier in his career.

by Chris M (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 5:22pm

29: The Jets-OAK game last year featured a Bollinger-Tuiosawhatever showdown. That one had to be pretty low.

by The Cartoonist (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 5:31pm

Did you know that "injured groin" is football speak for "eaten by a polar bear"? I didn't realize I had ESP when I wrote this comic two days ago...

by Erasmus (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 6:30pm

Brodie is going to lead Kansas City to victory...I hope. With Mark Anderson, DeMeco Ryans, and before his knee injury-Roman Harper all looking like solid future NFL players it would be nice for Brodie to be one as well...Alabama used to produce QBs (well in the 60s). But there has not been a lot of Alabama players tearing it up in the NFL (yes UAB and Troy have more 1st round picks then Alabama in the last 6 years).

by undethebus (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 7:06pm

#3 hahaha that had me rolling on the floor!

by DavidH (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 7:38pm

bollinger 168
tuiasosopo 45
total 213

So pretty low, but nowhere near Wallace-Croyle level

By the way, anybody else have trouble saying/thinking the Croyle? Needs to be "coil" or "croll" or "croy-lee" or something.

by DGL (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 8:25pm

#41: And the groin injury remains number one on the Threatdown.

by Carlos (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 9:06pm

I’d love to see a team do soemthing like that [direct snap to LJ]… just go completely off the books one day.

Then you would have loved the Body Bag Game, a MNF blood bath in which the Eagles knocked all three Skins QBs out of the game and so Brian Mitchell, rookie RB and KR but an option QB in college, finished up the game. It was actually kind of fun as a fan to watch Mitchell run what was essentially a completely made up, sandlot offense.

And not that I wanted to see Mitchell get knocked out, too, but next on the QB depth chart was starting tackle Russ Grimm! That would have been something.

On a serious note (even though I know it would never happen), could the Skins trade Brunell to KC? He knows the offense and has to be better than Adrian Brodie. I guess cap penalties make it impossible (plus the deadline has passed, but does the NFL have post-deadline trading like MLB where guys just have to pass waivers?).

by Rich Gannon (not verified) :: Fri, 10/27/2006 - 11:38pm

Pick me! Pick me!

by ZS (not verified) :: Sat, 10/28/2006 - 9:47pm


Earlier that season, Bollinger (first game for him) played Anthony Wright. That's got to be at Wallace-Croyle levels.

by mactbone (not verified) :: Sun, 10/29/2006 - 11:31am

Re 48: No way, Anthony Wright actually started for a few teams. I'm thinking you find a Bears team over the past few years that faced a rookie and you've got a good shot - Henry Burris, Krenzel, Orton, McNown and Grossman all had their first games as Bears so that's five easy games to find. In fact I'll go ahead and find out.

OK, Craig Krenzel played in the game before he started so he had 19 attempts. The starter on the opposite side? Ken Dorsey! I had forgotten about this National Championship rematch. Dorsey had 79 attempts before the game so that's 98 for the starters.

The other guys were all facing vets, but I couldn't check out Cade McNown's first start against Philly because it was 10/17/1999 and somehow the same addresses that work for the 2000s wouldn't work.

by Travis (not verified) :: Sun, 10/29/2006 - 1:15pm

It's a real cheat, but the record has to have been set in one of the replacement games in 1987, which featured never-seen-before, never-would-play-again QBs like Ed Rubbert and Scott Tinsley.