Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

09 Jan 2006

Palmer not Angry at Hit

Carson Palmer on the Kimo von Oelhoffen hit that tore up his knee:

"I don't know Kimo personally. From what I've heard, he's a classy guy. Football is football. I don't think it was malicious at all. He's a guy with a high motor that plays hard and was playing hard. It just happened. I don't think in any way he was trying to do anything. It's just part of the game."

You're a classy guy, too, Carson.

Posted by: Michael David Smith on 09 Jan 2006

18 comments, Last at 10 Jan 2006, 1:46pm by turbohappy


by Show (not verified) :: Mon, 01/09/2006 - 10:11pm

I can honestly say I wouldn't trade Palmer for any player in the league. I'm glad he plays for my team.

by Bengaldown (not verified) :: Mon, 01/09/2006 - 10:54pm

I'm gald he's not mad because the D-lineman was blocked into him by an O-lineman. If you noticed, the D-lineman wasn't even looking in Palmer's direction and didn't know it happened until afterwards. The same thing happened with Palmer's first knee injury, Richard Seymour was held three times by the O-line and on that play Seymour was dragged to the ground before he made contact with Palmer, causing a low hit. That's football!

by Basilicus (not verified) :: Mon, 01/09/2006 - 11:35pm

Come to think of it, in all of those, "Who would you draft if you could draft anyone in the league to start a new franchise?" questions, Carson Palmer might be my first choice. You know, without the knee injury.

by zip (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 1:23am



by Vash (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 1:31am

Draft anyone in the league to start a new franchise?

Considering the offensive line would likely be terrible, I'd take Roethlisberger, the best of the top four quarterbacks at evading the pass rush.
Subjective? Sure it is!
Homer pick? Sure it is!

by LnGrrrR (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 2:03am

Yeah...that really boosted my respect for Palmer. Pretty good guy right there.

by perrin (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 2:38am

Good for Palmer.

Though it is a little sad that a player acting like a grown-up instead of crying is considered Extra Points-worthy.

by charles (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 2:52am

RE: 2
How about bengals lineman stop throwing people into palmer's knees.

by bobstar (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 3:56am

How many ACL/MCL/whateverCL tears have happened to qb's this year? At least Culpepper and Palmer. With such a high injury rate, why doesn't every qb wear those clunky-looking braces? Or do they not protect from such injuries?

by godzilla (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 6:55am

re #9
2 out of 32(and more considering other injuries and benchings and such) starting QBs is a pretty tiny injury rate to suddenly say OMG EVERYBODY COAT YOUR KNEES IN THREE SOLID FEET OF TITANIUM PLATING. Besides very few players willingly wear equipment that even potentially decreases mobility unless it's absolutely necessary. And I also think the braces are more for players that already have funky knees than to prevent injuries, and with a 200-300+ pound human flying around it would take one hell of a brace to do anything about a direct hit to the joint.

by Michael David Smith :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 8:27am

My understanding is those braces really limit the wearer's mobility. For Culpepper, that would diminish his game considerably, but for Palmer, I think a brace would've been a good idea.

by Chris (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 8:42am

Palmer was wearing a brace

by Mercury815 (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 9:10am

Yeah, Palmer was wearing a brace on his left knee, which was the one that was injured. Of course, I only know this information from an interview with Ben Roethlisberger that appeared on the NFL Network, so take it for what it is worth. Big Ben said that he and Palmer had discussed wearing braces before the game, and Palmer told Ben that he needed to wear one like Palmer did.

In reviewing this e-mail, it sounds kind of crazy but I swear it happened.

by Drew (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 10:57am

They said during the game that he was wearing it. It didn't prevent the injury, but it still might have lessened the damage. From what I've heard, they expect him to be playing at the start of next season. Not so for Culpepper.

by hector (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 12:50pm

Can we officially say Palmer is not a 1st pick bust ?

Is he a cap-casualty for the Bengals ?

by Steve Z (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 12:59pm

Linebacker Brian Urlacher of the Bears said yesterday that while he did not see the hit [by Odell Thurman on Ben Roethlisberger in the December 4, 2005 Steelers-Bengals game], quarterbacks are protected too much by the league and the officials.
I believe the NFL ought to protect quarterbacks like it does because quarterbacks usually are the most important — if not best player — player on a team, are vulnerable to suffering season-ending and career-ending injuries, because injuring a starting quarterback creates an enormous advantage for a team’s immediate and future competitors (ask the Bengals about that) and because the costs incurred for trying to injure a team’s quarterback would be far too low otherwise. In short, a team has too strong an incentive to injure their opponents quarterbacks for the league to refuse to adopt rules that reduce the risks faced by NFL quarterbacks. If NFL quarterbacks were ‘a dime a dozen,’ I doubt this would be much of an issue for the NFL.

by Jim A (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 1:14pm

I really don't understand why more QBs aren't taught to recoil and backpedal out of danger immediately after releasing the ball. Brett Favre and Peyton Manning both use this technique and that goes a long way toward explaining why these two are the most durable QBs. The plant and hold follow through technique may be the traditional view of proper passing mechanics, but with the huge investments teams have at stake in their QBs today and the increasing size and speed of defenders, I'm not sure that risk is worth taking.

by turbohappy (not verified) :: Tue, 01/10/2006 - 1:46pm

The biggest reason quarterbacks are protected by the rules is image. QBs are often the "face of the franchise" and people come to games or watch them on TV just to see them play. Whether they should base their viewership on 1 player is debatable, but it is often the case.