Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

03 Jul 2008

FO on ESPN: 2008 Day Two Favorites

In Part Two of our look at Day Two of the NFL Draft on ESPN, we peg 10 guys who are best-positioned to be successful NFL players.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 03 Jul 2008

18 comments, Last at 07 Jul 2008, 10:24am by Aaron


by shake n bake (not verified) :: Thu, 07/03/2008 - 6:43pm

Marcus Howard is staying at DE for the Colts. He's a Robert Mathis clone. The link in my name is to his Colts player page where he is wearing #92 and listed as a DE.

by bubqr (not verified) :: Thu, 07/03/2008 - 6:44pm

Schmitt shouldn't be on that list IMO, fullback drafted in the 5th round(Or just drafted) are like RBs or WRs drafted in the late first/early second, they are expected to start early in their careers.

Marcus Howard : You sure they are going to play him at OLB ? Was pretty sure he would be a DE. He looks like Mathis an awful lot to me.

by shake n bake (not verified) :: Thu, 07/03/2008 - 6:46pm

oh and Utecht was the in-line blocking/outlet pass TE. That isn't Tamme's game at all. Tom Santi is the Utecht replacement. Tamme is more of a Dallas Clark replica.

Come on FO, I expect better than that from you guys.

by bubqr (not verified) :: Thu, 07/03/2008 - 6:46pm

#1 - Oops.

On a side note, whatya doin with Shaken n Baken dude ? Enjoy reading your stuff, disappointed not to see more of it.

by shake n bake (not verified) :: Thu, 07/03/2008 - 6:56pm

Re 4
you're in luck, I'm posting even more now. Just now at Stampede Blue (link in name).

by TomC (not verified) :: Thu, 07/03/2008 - 9:04pm

I had missed that the Stillers got Hills in the 4th. Great value there; I wouldn't be surprised to see him start at LT for years in the league.

Anybody else notice how, um, gee, how do I put this, "fan favorite" and "deceptively fast" that list was?

by Karl Cuba (not verified) :: Thu, 07/03/2008 - 9:47pm

Since the niners signed Rob Sims to back up the often injured Jennings, Rachal has been moved back to guard. This makes a move by Heitmann back to guard unlikely. Wallace could still challenge for the starting job though as Heitmann hasn't been as effective following his broken leg. Personally I really like the depth the niners have on their line, what they lack is proven quality. They do have some decent prospects though in Staley, Baas and Snyder.

by Marko (not verified) :: Thu, 07/03/2008 - 10:18pm

Why aren't there any 3rd round picks on this list? Did you forget that the 3rd round is now on Day 2? Or do you not think any of the 3rd rounders are among the most likely to have an impact?

Regarding Craig Steltz: If he proves to be good enough to really be compared to Gary Fencik, he will be a welcome addition to the Bears' secondary. By the way, Fencik was a pretty good cover safety, too; he wasn't just a hitter.

by NY expat (not verified) :: Thu, 07/03/2008 - 11:40pm

re: 8
Bill should probably have repeated it here, but in the first article he does write: "(Day 2 picked up the third round in 2008, but because we're looking at the past, we'll limit our analysis to picks from the fourth through seventh rounds.)"

by Pat (not verified) :: Fri, 07/04/2008 - 12:00am

Justin King was a junior, not a senior, when he left Penn State. That's why I'm not so positive that it was a "fluke/unreported injury" - he only started two years at corner, and only one and a half of those were decent. That doesn't inspire confidence.

by KW (not verified) :: Fri, 07/04/2008 - 1:46am

re: 10

Cheers Pat the one time anybody anywhere has something positive to say about the Rams and you have to knock it down.

Now I have to put the DVD of the 1999 season on again and dream of a good defence and relatively sensible coaching.

by Grasspike (not verified) :: Fri, 07/04/2008 - 11:08am

I'm surprised Adibi wasn't on the list. BCS-conference LB that put up some nice production in college. He was one of my favorite picks in the whole draft.

by NewsToTom (not verified) :: Fri, 07/04/2008 - 1:18pm

The BCS Championship Game cured any thoughts I had of Craig Steltz possibly being a good player. tOSU's entire gameplan was exploiting him, and when he went out of the game and the backup came in, the offense floundered.

Oh, and while Thornton may have started every game for the last 3 years, he's only been on the Titans for 2 years.

by Bill Barnwell :: Fri, 07/04/2008 - 2:25pm

#3 - I didn't mean the role itself. I meant his roster spot. Tamme will very likely be the #2 TE on the team. Santi may or may not even make the team.

#9 - My bad on the junior/senior thing. It would seem weird that he would come out after a stretch where he was mediocre if it was actually because of his play. I dunno. I guess we'll have to see.

#13 - I didn't say that Thornton had been on the team for three years, no?

by NewsToTom (not verified) :: Fri, 07/04/2008 - 8:11pm

Re #14
"The pair hasn't missed a start in three years" certainly implies to me that Bulluck and Thornton (i) have started the last 48 regular season games games (ii) for the same team. Better "neither Thornton nor Bulluck has missed a start in three years".

by Pat (not verified) :: Fri, 07/04/2008 - 10:58pm

#11: Sorry bout that. :)

#14: Yeah, the fact that King came out for the draft at all just baffled me. I had heard people saying "oh, he'll be a first or second round pick," but c'mon. With a fair number of Big Ten teams losing quarterbacks this year, King could've had a feast next year with good play. His measurables are there, but his second half was just 'meh'. All I can figure is that King got some really bad advice on where he'd go in the draft.

by thewedge (not verified) :: Sat, 07/05/2008 - 8:23pm

All I know is that I returned like 15 punts for TDs with him in NCAA 2007, that's got to be worth something, right?

by Aaron (not verified) :: Mon, 07/07/2008 - 10:24am

"It would seem weird that he would come out after a stretch where he was mediocre if it was actually because of his play."

I think it makes perfect sense. He had a good run and then started to fall off. If he knew he couldn't hack it and expected to get worse, the earlier he enters the draft, the better.