Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

16 Mar 2010

Chiefs Sign Ryan Lilja

The Chiefs have added guard Ryan Lilja to the roster; Lilja signed a three-year deal with the team. Terms are as of yet undisclosed.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 16 Mar 2010

13 comments, Last at 17 Mar 2010, 8:23pm by tuluse


by Bobman :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 1:57pm

hmmmmmm I liked that guy.

by C (not verified) :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 2:02pm

As much as I love the NFL, I don't watch many Barf-alo Bills games. They are certainly not fun to watch, but they have enough talent that they aren't a top 3 bad team that warrents an automatic fade.

With that said I hear Lilja is pretty good.

by C (not verified) :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 2:04pm

Hahaha and I stand corrected! He was on a team that I actually do watch... The Colts. He was a K-State guy though so going to the Chiefs makes sense.

It's still early in the week.

by Bobman :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 4:38pm

Ya had me wondering.....

by Raiderjoe :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 5:45pm

old chiefs brainpower waibed him. new front office clowns bring player back.
maybe help tema a little but still not goignt to make noise in division excpept when play bronocs and maybe one game sv SD. division goign down to Raiders or chagers

by Theo :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 8:44pm

Sorry dude, this guy is for real. Maybe the clowns are right.
He started 59 of 66 games for the colts and played in 2 SBs.
Now a lineman won't make noise, but you fail to argument why this guy isn't good.

by Mr Shush :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 8:51pm

Lilja is indeed pretty useful, but every Colts lineman is over-rated, Saturday included. Peyton just makes them look better than they are, both directly (by calling good audibles, moving well in the pocket and getting rid of the ball quickly) and indirectly (by keeping safeties out of the box on running plays and scaring opposing DCs out of blitzing).

by Theo :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 8:56pm

Hmyeah, sure.
I call chicken.
Ok Peyton Mannig is the best QB of the decade and perhaps beyond, but this line has been stable and they gave him the opportunity to become the QB he is and has been.
But that IS THE JOB OF a lineman.
"When you're protecting like shit, you'll protect shit" is a commong saying in football.

by loneweasel (not verified) :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 10:21pm

A load of bull.

What stable line?

They've been rotating a scrub and a bust at LT, the most important position on the OL. The line couldn't run block for its life. Anyone other than Peyton would be killed. In fact, Curtis Painter should count himself lucky he still retained most of his major organs after playing against the Jets for twenty minutes behind that scrub line.

by C (not verified) :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 11:23am


That's exactly what I have been saying and it happens to a lesser extent for other QB's like Brady, Eli, Favre and others as well.

It's funny how these guys are always credited with having such good lines, and scramblers are always given the excuse that " he has no line" when in reality their lines are a lot closer in skill than most people would have you believe.

The Colts line was horribly bad 2 years ago.

by tuluse :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 8:23pm

I agree with you for everyone but Brady, who has always had an above average line. Also, the Giants have been so dominant on the ground it colored perceptions, and people have trouble separating run blocking and pass blocking. Other than Vick, which "scramblers" are you referring to?

by commissionerleaf :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 1:25pm

Lilja isn't a bad player, but he was PUP in 2008 and wasn't the same player at all in 2009. The Colts are very good to players who they think have a future, but once they decide you aren't part of the plan, you're gone. [See: Harrison, Marvin].

He could very easily get it all back and be a competent-to-good guard again, but I would not count on it if Bill Polian doesn't think so. He had a lot of money coming to him in the next couple of years, the big money in his 2008 deal, and the Colts decided that he isn't that kind of player anymore.

Still, it isn't like the Colts have a bunch of talented young linemen itching for playing time. It's a surprise.

by Lola was a dude (not verified) :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 1:47pm

The Colts have consistently treated guard as the most expendable position on the offensive line during the Polian years. I don't know if it's a philosophical thing, or if they've just never found a guard they thought was worth big money. But whatever the case, they've never placed a premium on guards.

What I do know is that outside of the linebacker position, it's very rare to see a player leave the Colts and be a factor elsewhere. They do a great job of judging when it's time to break the bank, and when it's time to cut bait.