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27 Jun 2011

MMQB: Domonique Foxworth Edition

With PK on vacation, Baltimore Ravens cornerback (and well-spoken player rep) Domonique Foxworth steps in to discuss the ACL injury that held him back in 2010, the status of a new CBA, what players have been doing during the lockout, and the worst thing about cell phones.

Posted by: Doug Farrar on 27 Jun 2011

32 comments, Last at 01 Jul 2011, 8:24am by Mr Shush


by Michael LaRocca (not verified) :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 11:25am

I had a little brother who would not have let a cell phone stop him. It would have added to the fun.

by Marko :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 1:19pm

I would have thought that being older than 18 or so would have ruined it for him. Or maybe reading about people drowning (or nearly drowning) because they couldn't swim. Or seeing a story about someone breaking their neck and being paralyzed after being pushed into a pool. Or maybe hearing about Jay Cutler's reaction when Peyton Manning pushed him into a pool during Pro Bowl week.

by Drespasser (not verified) :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 4:22pm

Are we talking about an in-ground swimming pool or a non-in-ground swimming pool?

by silentrat :: Thu, 06/30/2011 - 12:39pm

Who shit in your Wheaties? If you think pushing someone into a pool is so dangerous, I'm almost afraid to hear your opinion on how to punish a helmet-to-helmet hit. Ya, bad stuff happens sometimes. It's no excuse to avoid fun like it's the plague.

by Harrison Bergeron (not verified) :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 11:36am

"Today's technology is amazing. At least once a month I look at my smartphone or iPad and say, 'Holy $*&@, this is incredible.'"

PK trained him well.

by drobviousso :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 4:48pm
by Andrew Potter :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 5:03pm

Thanks for posting that link. So, so true.

by sundown (not verified) :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 6:44pm

Awesome link. We've got things so good we take absolutely everything for granted. It's become uncool to be impressed by anything.

by MJK :: Tue, 06/28/2011 - 2:33pm

I don't think Foxworth's comment is particularly inane. I think, as this link highlights, we do have incredible technology that most people take for granted.

Think about it. The invention of the SmartPhone (only a couple of years old) combined with the invention of the Internet (only about 15 years old) means that nearly the entire collective set of human knowledge is available to almost anyone, INSTANTLY, ANYWHERE, at any time. If you want to know something you don't know, you can find it out in, generally, seconds.

Go back just 20 years to 1990 (I still remember that time well), and if you wanted to find out something that you didn't know, you had to go to a library and research it for several hours, or call an expert (when you had access to a land line and phone book) and consult with him/her. Finding out a fact or learning something new would take hours to months, and had to be done in specific locations.

What we are now going to be capable of as a species in the next 20, 50, 100 years, is going to be astonishing to us.

And those generations will take it for granted, too.

by Karma Coma :: Tue, 06/28/2011 - 5:12pm

Louis CK later gave an interview where he admitted that the guy on the plane he was talking about was actually himself, which to me makes it even more funny.

by are-tee :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 12:16pm

I think it's interesting that his discussion of the lockout seems to focus exclusively on taking care of retired players and safety issues. This leads me to believe that the revenue-sharing portion of the negotiations is just about settled and the issues he discusses are still a matter of contention.

It's also interesting that had the owners not opted out of the old CBA, these issues might not be addressed, since the players were perfectly happy to leave things as they were.

by TV_Pete (not verified) :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 12:22pm

I still say the players (and owners) are arguing about money in their pockets. If they agreed to what the other offered and instead required lifetime care (like TriCare for military) this would better help former players.

The owners original wanted and extra Billion and dropped down to about 300 Million, while they players won't go past about 115 Million.

by justanothersteve :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 1:31pm

I wouldn't draw that conclusion. It seems more like a player's propaganda piece making them sound like the wrongfully agrieved party on an issue that almost nobody would argue against. If this were the main issue I believe the lockout would have ended a long time ago. And for the record, I'm mostly on the players side.

by TV_Pete (not verified) :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 12:18pm

"Speaking from the perspective of the players, however, we are fighting for things you're more likely to find in a game of LIFE: a safer practice regimen, better pensions for former players, long-term health insurance and more time and support in the pursuit of higher education and post-football careers."

Baloney! This is not the hang-up. The hang-up in discussions is money (and visibility to ensure more of future money).

The NFL offered a number of these items. The only one the players strenuously objected to was 18-game seasons, which the NFL agreed to not put in place unless the players agree to it. Personally, I think the post-football health care should be more of an issue than the players or NFL are making it - forget the current money discussions between millionaires and billionaires.

I don't think the players realize that if the players do get a year without caps that also means no MINIMUM payments or requirements for teams. Small cities like Kansas City could field relatively uncompetitive teams where most of the players would be on the scrub team and make $50K or $100K a year. Lots of people would play the game of football for that.

It wouldn't be the best team, of course. Instead, it would be like Citadel or University of Tennessee - Chattanooga playing against University of Florida or Alabama or Auburn. These games still often sell out, but they are not the big draws of the best match-ups.

by TV_Pete (not verified) :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 12:23pm

Of course, the players (and owners) have to say the right thing - they are not just arguing about money. Otherwise, they think they will look greedy and who wants to admit they want more money when they already earn millions a year?

by Dean :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 2:10pm

So now that the NFLPA have gotten a free advertorial, will MMQB provide equal time?

by TV_Pete (not verified) :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 2:42pm

King has always been pro-Union. And he has far more sources (and people care to read more about the sources) in the players' camp than in the owners' camp.

by Raiderjoe :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 2:41pm

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by Raiderjoe :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 4:58pm


by mike abbott (not verified) :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 3:26pm

Whenever someone says, "I'm not book smart, but I'm street smart," all I hear is, "I'm not real smart, but I'm imaginary smart.

that's a pretty good line

by sundown (not verified) :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 6:48pm

The book smart people will never own up to only being book smart. And those who truly are street smart are smart enough not to say anything at all.

by Bowl Game Anomaly :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 9:48pm

Speaking as a book smart person who works professionally with a lot of street smart people, I will say that street smart is a real thing, BUT when you take street smart people out of their element their street smarts disappear because all the rules they know don't apply anymore.

by tuluse :: Mon, 06/27/2011 - 10:18pm

when you take street smart people out of their element their street smarts disappear because all the rules they know don't apply anymore.

Isn't that the whole point of comparing street smarts to book smarts? When you take the person out of their environment (academia or the streets) nothing they've learned helps them?

by Kyle D. (not verified) :: Tue, 06/28/2011 - 12:08am

I have a sibling who will shortly have a doctorate. Truly a genius in their chosen field. Yet, they're pushing 30 and I just had to help them get their cable bill sorted out and it completely threw them for a loop when they learned that normal businesses function completely differently than academia. But that is all they've ever known...even the few side jobs they've had along the way were tied in one way or another to their colleges.

by i-says-to-maybel (not verified) :: Tue, 06/28/2011 - 5:08am

This story sounds like a made-up story.

by Aaron Brooks' Good Twin (not verified) :: Tue, 06/28/2011 - 9:55am

The difference is usually capacity. It's easier for someone who is book smart to become street smart (that's just experience) than it is for someone who is street smart to become book smart.

As always, stereotypes may not apply on an individual basis, R^2=crap, blah blah blah.

by MJK :: Tue, 06/28/2011 - 2:25pm

It's important to note that not all doctorates are created equal. Some people get doctorates in mechanical engineering, or chemistry, or get a JD in law or an MD in medicine, or even (from an applicability standpoint), an M-div (Master of Divinity, that qualifies one to be a priest/pastor/minister). These people are becoming experts in something that applies to life and the world we live in. And there's a pretty good chance that they have had to work in some real-world application to get there and know how the world works.

Then you have people that get doctorates in theoretical mathematics, or medieval literature, or the art of neo-modern architecture, or philosophy, or something like that. Those are the folks that are often a bit out of touch with the real world...

by Joseph :: Tue, 06/28/2011 - 4:06pm

Agreed. My dad is over 60, has a masters in engineering (petroleum), and is EXTREMELY "street smart." I'd say that his experience now overshadows his book smarts, now that age is slowly sapping his memory. His "supercomputer brain" now runs on a slower processor than mine, but I still value his input. His experience has helped me avoid many a problem in life, and I don't think I've ever gone wrong following his advice when I was unsure of what to do.

To me the sad thing about the street smart vs. book smart is that it isn't hard to be both--spend the time hitting the books, but realize that your education is the MEANS to an end, not the end itself.

by Easterbook confuses me (not verified) :: Tue, 06/28/2011 - 10:46am

So King tweeted a thank you to Foxworth and George Attalah (of the NFLPA) for doing MMQB. Pretty sketchy for king to let Attalah write/help write the article for Foxworth without acknowledging it in the article.

by JonFrum :: Wed, 06/29/2011 - 4:35pm

Why is it that white people are never described as 'well spoken?'

Well spoken = He's black, and I'm amazed he can construct a proper English sentence.

by Marko :: Wed, 06/29/2011 - 8:59pm

I've noticed that as well. So it's not surprising that you never see a "well spoken" player who is a "gritty fan favorite" who has "deceptive speed."

by Mr Shush :: Fri, 07/01/2011 - 8:24am

Interesting. That is definitely not the case in the UK.