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05 Nov 2012

Mandatory Monday: Cast Your Vote

I kind of like being freed from the no-politics rule here at FO and the "OMG, do not offend anyone anywhere with topical humor or post-19th century formatting" of some other past employers. It is not like I want to go off and start ripping people's political views. I just have so many Walter Mondale jokes to share with the world.

Posted by: Mike Tanier on 05 Nov 2012

11 comments, Last at 06 Nov 2012, 5:09pm by Dean


by Podge (not verified) :: Mon, 11/05/2012 - 8:14am

I don't really see the need for an election - just abide by the outcome of the Redskins game. Maybe on a week-to-week basis.

by Podge (not verified) :: Mon, 11/05/2012 - 8:38am

A random officiating question: is there a rule about who kicks the ball on a kickoff? Can anyone do it? Because that seems like a deep, unmined quarry for creative onside kicks.

by Marko :: Mon, 11/05/2012 - 12:48pm

Anyone who is active can do it.

by AnonymousA (not verified) :: Mon, 11/05/2012 - 1:05pm

As long as no one is past the ball when the kick takes place, of course.

Which means the first person to the ball must either kick it, or make an EXTREMELY hard cut.

by armchair journe... :: Tue, 11/06/2012 - 9:41am

Why not have two guys run at it then, like you'll occasionally see for a free-kick in soccer?


by BaronFoobarstein :: Tue, 11/06/2012 - 11:15am

In soccer you don't know who will kick it. In football it has to be the first guy or else it'll be offsides. That doesn't remove all value from the ploy, but it's a big negative.

by armchair journe... :: Tue, 11/06/2012 - 11:48am

I was meaning more of a simultaneous approach.. Would take a bit of grace, and quite a bit of practice, I imagine, to not crash into eachother... but theoretically possible. Probably the non-kicker jumps over as the actual kicker swings. The flatter their approaches relative to the line of scrimmage, presumably the easier to pull off with out one going offsides.

by Dean :: Tue, 11/06/2012 - 5:09pm

Always thought that was one of the stupider aspects of soccer - which is saying a lot.

Anyway, as for real football, it doesn't really have any point. If it's a deep kick, you have 3+ seconds of hang time to figure out whether the ball was kicked or not. If it's a squib, the front 5 have less time, but still 30 yards of space to figure it out. If it's a surprise onsides, you lose the element of surprise. If it's a deliberate onsides, is someone other than your regular kicker really going to be able to master that maneuver? And even if they are, all you've done is take one more member of your hands team away from a potential recovery.

There may or may not be a point to it in soccer, but it makes no sense to waste time practicing something like that in real football.

by nuclearbdgr :: Mon, 11/05/2012 - 1:25pm

Didn't they change the rule such that you needed to have five players on each side of the ball when it was kicked too? That could impact chicanery.

by Jeremy Billones :: Mon, 11/05/2012 - 1:31pm

Four on each side. So you still have options for trickeration.

by RickD :: Mon, 11/05/2012 - 6:31pm

Watch the same ads cascade from telecast to telecast on the satellite feed, and it’s like the wave of negativity that hits you at the end of every Romeo Crennel press conference.

Too true, too true.