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22 Jan 2013

FO Playoff Challenge Update

Click the link above for total standings. Click here for Week 20, here for Week 19, and here for Week 18.

Our current leading team is called "PISS ANT," with a small lead and Joe Flacco and Frank Gore as his final two players. There are a couple of teams in striking range with a Kaepernick/Rice combination.

Interestingly, only one team in the whole competition picked Flacco and Kaepernick as its two quarterbacks.

Posted by: Aaron Schatz on 22 Jan 2013

7 comments, Last at 03 Apr 2013, 2:39am by Cathedralplumbing


by DenverCheeze (not verified) :: Tue, 01/22/2013 - 1:07pm

I am still pulling for FO to start a league of fantasy football where we are allowed to choose individual players by DVOA or EYds, O and D lines valued by adjusted line yards, and QBs by some real measurement such as DYAR. It would be very cool to be able to choose a line unit as part of a fantasy team as well as individuals. This is much more meaningful 'fantasy' league than having a league where Drew Brees on your team can win because he is passing like a madman down 20 points every week. Any possibility?

by Aaron Schatz :: Tue, 01/22/2013 - 2:41pm

Programming that would be really, really complicated and take a lot of somebody's time, and of course I like to compensate people when they spend that much time doing work on something, which means we would have to charge for it, and it would likely not be cheap, which means fewer people would sign up... I think you get where this is going.

by zlionsfan :: Tue, 01/22/2013 - 5:42pm

There's no reason for you to do it either. The FF market is saturated, so it isn't like there's money to be made simply by entering the fray. It's a lot of work to put together a decent interface to manage the draft and rosters. DVOA isn't available in real-time or a close facsimile, so your audience would be people willing to do old-fashioned FF, with the commish putting together final scores and sending them out ... and if they're doing that anyway, they can just as easily hit the site on Tuesdays and enter the appropriate stats from here without you guys needing to do any programming.

by Podge (not verified) :: Wed, 01/23/2013 - 5:55am

That's what I was thinking. If you want to do it, there's no reason you couldn't do one yourself though, as long as you have at least one friend who is willing to trawl through the stats each week. Me and some friends do this for fantasy football (soccer) because we couldn't find a website that'd allow us to do a draft style league.

You'd have to agree the scoring system. I don't think it'd work on a week by week basis, partly because it'd be hard to find actual DVOA scores for players each week from the public stats, and partly because scores from previous weeks would change as opponent adjustments change.

I don't 100% understand rotisserie rules (having never played anything other than head to head fantasy football), but from my vague understanding that might be the best way to go? It basically takes a bunch of categories, aggregrates your scores and rates you in each category. Then the team with the best overall rating wins, right?

It might work if you had the following scoring categories:

RB EYards or DYAR
WR EYards or DYAR
TE EYards or DYAR
OL Adj Line Yards
OL Adj Sack Rate
DL Adj Sack Rate
D Run Defense DVOA
D Pass Defense DVOA

That'd probably give a pretty good spread. For the OL, DL and D you could have it so that you pick the specific stat, so I could draft Denver's OL Line Yards, but you could draft Denvers OL Adj Sack Rate. I could pick Chicago's Pass D, you could pick their run D.

Not sure how you'd do free agency though. Might just have to lock teams in from the very start of the season or something.

Might be something to have a thread in the forum on to try to figure out details and see whether it's possible? I'd be interested in doing it for a season to see if it works.

by zlionsfan :: Thu, 01/24/2013 - 5:16pm

They're pretty simple, actually, which makes sense when you think about where they came from (the original fantasy baseball league): pick categories. Each team is ranked in each category, with ties splitting points. (How far out you extend decimals is up to you for stats you can figure and up to the stat provider otherwise.) Standings are ordered by total points, usually with each category given equal weight. Which categories and how many you choose reflect how much you want each position or group to count.

So yeah, just what you were thinking.

And yeah, with this stuff, you couldn't really have trades or drops or anything like that, because previous weeks' stats change until (and beyond) the end of the season - you would probably have to draft QB Broncos instead of Manning, things like that.

by Anony (not verified) :: Mon, 01/28/2013 - 3:19pm

Those of us that selected AJ Green wanted to confirm that Pro Bowl stats count towards the playoff challenge totals.

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