Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

04 Mar 2013

Mandatory Monday: NFL Refinancing

A look at three teams and their different philosophies about how to get under the cap. Links at the end take you to a piece about the terrible stuff on daytime television and brief profiles of five draft prospects. Also, if you didn't read my six trillion word takedown of the nutritional supplement industry, check it out!

Posted by: Mike Tanier on 04 Mar 2013

20 comments, Last at 06 Mar 2013, 7:56pm by Raiderjoe


by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 12:09pm

"In the "Revenge of the Nerds" panel, Moneyball author Michael Lewis talked about how much the pushback to Moneyball surprised him until he realized that he was potentially costing some people their jobs. Those who don't know or care about analytics can feel very, very threatened by what others feel is wonderful progress. -- BC"

We feel for you, Mike, we really do.

It's a shame everything you castigated the traditionalists about in your paen to Billy Beane turned into crap.

by RickD :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 12:29pm

Ordinarily when we see a post at FO like this one, linking to a column, and a person makes a comment here with a quoted paragraph like you do, the quote comes from the column linked to.

What are you quoting? And why here?

And could you rephrase your last sentence, please? It sounds like you're slamming Mike for something. But I have no idea for what, nor do I have any idea why you think such a slam is justified.

Are you saying that the anti-analytic approach of traditionalists has been vindicated?

by Karl Cuba :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 12:51pm

It struck me as odd too, a rather aggressive post slagging off Tanier for something he hasn't written. Twice.

by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 1:46pm

"Mike" wasn't Tanier, it was Lewis. Sorry for any confusion.

I'm gotten somewhat fatigued with Lewis' mock confusion and woe-is-me attitude towards the criticism towards Moneyball. Perhaps he would be happier if he just stuck the millions of dollars he made into his ears.

by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 12:14pm

"San Francisco's Paraag Marathe loves the "flying 20" (your 40 time from 20 yards to 40 yards) for receivers, while Aaron Schatz's numbers think only the first 10 yards matter. FIGHT. -- BC"

Of course he does. Welker lives in that 0-10 slot, and Brady can't hit the flying 20 guys.

by RickD :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 12:32pm

And now you've done that twice.

by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 1:54pm

I had more than one window open, it looks like. This should have been in the Sloane topic area.

by sundown (not verified) :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 1:15pm

" Also, if you didn't read my six trillion word takedown of the nutritional supplement industry, check it out!"

I couldn't find a link to this either in the linked article or on your blog, Mike. Am I missing something?

by JohnD (not verified) :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 2:29pm

Found it by looking at his article list: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/42089796/

by Noah Arkadia :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 2:53pm

Thanks for the tip on overthecap, Mike. Great site.

FO posters are a peacock. You got to let us fly!

by wr (not verified) :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 2:56pm

I'm a little surprised Mike didn't note how the Cowboys
are starting to bear an eerie resemblance to the Raiders
of 2007-11...

by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 3:25pm

What year are they in? I'm curious for deathpool purposes.

by Turin :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 5:30pm

The difference being that Al Davis was extremely knowledgable about football before he went senile.

by BlueStarDude :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 4:20pm

And it gets worse: Cowboys tagging 29-year-old Anthony Spencer in order to work out long-term deal. His specialty is playing the run. Because that's so important in the NFL today.

It wouldn't have been so bad if they just cut Austin (he is terrible, and always has been, at tracking the deep ball, has sub-par hands, and won't stay hurt) and didn't tag Spencer. Though extending Witten was a bad idea too. I know he's a great guy and fan favorite but didn't anyone notice how terrible his yards after catch was last year? He pretty much catches the ball and falls down. He isn't going to be worth having as the starter in another year probably, two at the most.

by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 5:27pm

Didn't he play the entire season with a lacerated spleen?

by justanothersteve :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 5:42pm

I don't know how long a spleen takes to heal. But Witten did injure it preseason and was iffy for the early part of the season. I think the Cowboys should keep him under contract.

OTOH, From my non-Cowboy fan perspective I don't think the Cowboys should have tried to keep either Austin or Spencer at this point. Austin is at best their #3 option after Bryant and Witten. It could be the WR depth sucks after that. I don't follow them closely.

by BlueStarDude :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 7:33pm

I wouldn't cut Witten but I wouldn't have renegotiated his contract to push his money into the future either. He's not got many years left.

The WR depth is a problem, but Dwayne Harris is on the rise and, price considered, is as valuable as Austin.

None of it probably matters. This is a sinking ship.

by Will Allen :: Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:48am

Unlike a lot of non-Cowboy fans, I never had any negative feelings regarding the team, in the Landry era. I never really had much in the way of negative thoughts in the Jimmy Jonson era; I didn't like how Landry's exit was handled, but it was definitely time for him to go, and firing a legend is not an easy thing to do, in terms of getting the image right.

Nope, my hate-hate relationship with America's Team began when the liqoured up idiot owner alienated a coach who had delivered two championships, to install Barry Switzer, and then made one bungling mover after another. At this point, my only hope is that Jerrel maintains enough cognitive capacty to grasp what an utter ass he has been, since the day he claimed that 500 coaches could have won two Super Bowls with the roster that Jerrel claimed he constructed.

by dbostedo :: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 9:14pm

"...it often always works."

-- Mike Tanier

Just like Sex Panther! Love it.

by Raiderjoe :: Wed, 03/06/2013 - 7:56pm

Look, dbostedo. U'm rising a furry tractor.