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11 Feb 2014

Browns Axe Lombardi, Banner

OK, so the battle for the Browns' front office has been decided and the winner is... the assistant GM? Apparently? Who the heck knows at this point. Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi are out. Ray Farmer has been promoted to general manager, a title which he will surely hold for at least the next six days. This franchise has no stability. It has negative stability. No, worse, it has "i" stability. The stability of this franchise is an imaginary number.

Posted by: Rivers McCown on 11 Feb 2014

89 comments, Last at 14 Feb 2014, 1:16pm by Tim Wilson


by dmstorm22 :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 11:23am

Well, if they just listened to the BS Report, I'm sure they never would have hired Lombardi in the first place.

What does this mean for the coach? Was Farmer at least on board with choosing him for the job?

by Hurt Bones :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:05pm

Reports are that he was not involved with any of the coaching interviews. Not that that's surprising, he was heavily involved in scouting and personnel evaluation.

If I were a Browns fan, I'd be glad that Banner and Lombardi are gone, but more than a little worried that Haslam doesn't have a clue.

by Tim Wilson :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 8:22pm

Can someone talk me through why Browns fans should be down on Lombardi? It's an idea I've seen a few times now, and it's not one I understand. And let's not use his BS Report appearances, because I'm hoping a lot of that was pandering to Simmons. When I focus on what he's actually DONE in his first year...it's an extremely strong performance, no? I liked his personnel moves last offseason, particularly on defense. The Trent Richardson move was brilliant. And he has stacked their draft cupboard heading into this year, when his plan appeared to be to find a franchise QB.

I get that Chud's firing after only a year was odd, but I have no idea who made that decision. If I'm just going on personnel...I thought Lombardi was performing well this far.

by RoninX :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 3:42pm

Me too, this seems really strange. Seems like the browns had a disappointing year on the field but that there was some real hope of talent coalescing there over the next couple years.

by Riceloft :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 3:55pm

Most of the talent on the team was brought in by Tom Heckert, not Lombardi. For a more detailed response, see #53.

by RoninX :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 4:36pm

I've #53 now.

I'll be honest, as a Seahawks fan, to me that list reads like something Seahawks fans would have written in 2010. When you are an organization with a dearth of talent sometimes you can't draft for need you just need to start adding talent and not worrying about need overlap too much. Even when you are just focused on adding talent the majority of your moves won't work out. On Seahawks blogs lately we've been reviewing just how our Superbowl team was built and one thing that has stood out to me was just how very many wrong moves were made along the way despite the amazing success Seattle has had in finding and developing cost friendly players in the draft and FA during the Carroll/Schneider administration. So I have to say that the list presented in #53 isn't that horrifying.

I look at the totality of the moves the front office has made and I see a net positive - but the completed moves of a Front office don't always tell the whole story. The MMQB article on it sheds more light on the tensions: http://mmqb.si.com/2014/02/12/cleveland-browns-jimmy-haslam-fires-joe-ba.... But even that has me shaking my head and thinking that Haslam is just thrashing around. Maybe he'll luck into the next simpatico championship winning FO, but I doubt it.

by jacobk :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:09pm

It would really be the cherry on top of the crap sundae if they fire Pettine before the draft.

by CBPodge :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:24pm

Nah, straight after, after picking the players he wants. That's more like the Browns' way.

by langsty :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 6:37pm

"Well, if they just listened to the BS Report, I'm sure they never would have hired Lombardi in the first place."


by Tim Wilson :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 8:14pm

Because Lombardi espoused a theory of franchise evaluation focused around "blue chip players," and argued that if you had a few of these you were in good shape. Which is kind of funny, because his Browns had 5 All-Pros and were still not very good.

It's unclear to me how much of Lombardi's BS Report personality was really him, and how much was him going along with Simmons' awful, awful approach to analyzing sports, which is to find an anecdotal theme or story that feels right in his gut and then run with it. This is how he came up with his still-going-strong belief that "QB play is 80% about personality and charisma," a theory which led him (and Lombardi, actually) to anoint Mark Sanchez the best QB of his class because "if all those guys were piling into a car to go to dinner, Sanchez would get the keys."

by The Hypno-Toad :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 8:43pm

This is on me, because I'm too lazy to find the original source and put some context around it, but I cannot force that final line to make any sense. Does that mean that people around Sanchez trust him? Does that mean that he's just naturally going to take charge of a situation? Because my immediate response was, "People around him force Sanchez to do work while they go out and enjoy themselves." To me, this sounds less like a complement and more like the description of a chauffeur.
I remember liking Bill Simmons several years ago. He seemed like a far preferable alternative to Easterbook. But he just kept getting more and more reliant on his shorthand catch phrase things. He actually seemed to be turning into Easterbrook without all the Frasier Crane-esque pretension to culture. So I eventually had to give up on Simmons too.
And that's the story of how I started getting almost all of my sports news from this site.

The end.

by tuluse :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 9:38pm

I think it's a poor analogy and poor scouting, but it means Sanchez would be the leader. Since he's the one with the keys, he's in the drivers seat with ultimate control over where they go. It also means the other players would allow him to lead them.

by Tim Wilson :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 11:22pm

Yeah, it was a bad analogy by Simmons and Lombardi that Sanchez was a charismatic, "leader of bros" type of guy. And that that meant he was the most promising QB of the group.

by jonnyblazin :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:27pm

I'm pretty sure the guy who made the comment about Sanchez getting the keys on the BS Report was Trent Dilfer, not Lombardi, although maybe Lombardi later agreed with that statement.

by Tim Wilson :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 1:00pm

Yes, I think that's right-- Lombardi just agreed with it, then, in one of the later conversations in which Simmons constantly brought it up.

The larger problem with Lombardi's analysis on those appearances was the "blue chip player" evaluation system, which was horrific.

by Chip :: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 9:38am

What was so horrific about the blue chip eval system?

by tuluse :: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 11:44am

There is no definition of blue chip player as far as I can tell. It's just whoever he decides is a blue chip player after the fact. Which means it's also a results oriented evaluation system instead of process oriented. Plus it's something really obvious that doesn't add anything worthwhile to evaluation. Did you know it's a good idea to have really good players on a football team?

by Tim Wilson :: Fri, 02/14/2014 - 1:16pm

Also, the conclusion that he routinely reached was that a team should be evaluated based on the number of top-flight player sit had. By this logic, the 2012 Chiefs and the 2013 Browns were excellent teams (they each had ~5 blue-chip players, which was above average by Lombardi's grading). It totally ignores the fact that NFL team success is often more about depth than the talent in the top 10% of your roster, and that many units (secondary, OL) are actually only as strong as their weakest unit.

Additionally, it was completely anecdotal and not measured or defined in any way.

by Alexander :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:05pm

The worst thing about the 80% personality thing is that he doesn't even seem to fathom that there is a floor of ability and athleticism to even reach the NFL that excludes 99% of the population from even having a shot.

Then he has on pro QBs like Drew Brees who agree with him, because why the hell would Drew Brees want to admit to himself, or anyone, that 99% of the reason he makes $20million a year is because he can throw a ball 40 yards on a frozen rope.

by Jimmy :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 11:35am

Now I thought Lombardi was an all-talk blowhard but he should at least have had a bit longer to prove that he was an all-talk blowhard before he got canned.

What an utterly dysfunctional franchise. I feel really sorry for Cleveland fans.

by Riceloft :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 11:54am

As a Cleveland fan, I can tell you that the majority of us are THRILLED with this move. Lombardi has no business in an NFL front office. He wrote scathing articles about the Browns' selection of Gordon. He was involved with the selection of such greats as "Touchdown" Tommy Vardell and J-Fat Russell. Banner is a good business guy, but not a football guy. He had too much say over personnel decisions, if media reports are true.

Farmer, on the other hand, has a much better football background. I feel a million times better about the Browns now. It definitely looks like dysfunction from the outside, though.

by Tim Wilson :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 8:26pm

He also gave scathing commentary on the Brandon Weeden pick. And his personnel moves since his hiring have been excellent, haven't they?

I don't get the feeling by Browns fans that Lombardi is unqualified, if we assume that he may have learned something since his first NFL stint and only judge him on the past year.

by Riceloft :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 10:37pm

Banner had final say over football operations (and the roster), no matter what Lombardi's contract might say. I'm sure they made a lot of decisions together, though. On Browns message boards we've referred to them as Lombanner. Going into last offseason, the Browns had obvious needs at WR, ILB, S, CB (#2 and #3), and RG. The Browns had a ton of room under the cap and used very little of it.

-We drafted a DE/OLB, after signing Paul Kruger and already having a VERY solid one in Jabaal Sheard. Kruger was very average as a pass rusher, though seemed solid in run support.
-None of our other draft picks are likely to stick past this year, except maybe OL Gilkey (Rd 7)
-We signed David Nelson and traded for Bess to help our WR corp. Nelson was cut in camp and Bess had mental issues that we were unaware of but were supposedly easy to find out about. Bess and our #2 (Greg Little) were at the bottom of the league in DYAR.
-We made zero moves to improve the Safety position opposite Ward.
-We made zero moves at ILB.
-We went with Oniel Cousins at the RG spot that needed upgraded. And he was awful.
-We stood pat with Buster Skrine as our #2 CB and signed Chris Owens as our #3. Skrine should've been the #3 and Owens should never see the football field again.
-During the season Lombanner constantly fiddled with the bottom of the roster, resulting in a lack of consistency on special teams.

This is the major list that us Browns fans have been complaining about since last offseason. With all the free cap space, we should've been able to sign a couple more (different) free agents to fill these major holes. Or maybe we could've actually used some of our 2013 draft picks instead of trading them for picks this year.

I can give you the Richardson trade, but thats about it. Then again we thought filling his spot with a washed up McGahee was a good idea. And we released Bobby Rainey who had a couple of solid games for the Bucs late in the year.

by nath :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 7:18pm

The Browns were clearly building for the long term, though. I don't think you can say the Mingo pick is a mistake just because they also signed a pass rusher-- the draft is about picking the best player available, not drafting to fill a need.

The Browns seem to be in really good shape this year, with extra 1st, 3rd, and 4th round picks, to rebuild the roster, as well as to have the cap room to make some significant signings. I don't know why Haslam decided to totally clean house the first year into that project.

Word has leaked out that Haslam wanted to hire Greg Schiano, and that's why he and Banner had a falling out. That says a lot about how terrible Haslam is.

by Riceloft :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 9:01pm

If you read the article (and not the PFT take), thats not exactly how it was portrayed. It wasn't that Haslam definitely wanted to hire Schiano, its that two respected coaches called and vouched for him, so Haslam wanted to give him a fair shake. Word is that Banner was against it and basically didn't take the interview seriously.

I have no idea if Haslam is going to be a good owner in the long run, but I think he absolutely made the right move here.

by tuluse :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 9:14pm

I don't think bringing a coach in to interview that your GM is adamantly opposed to is a good move. Either Banner should have been fired on the spot or Schiano should not have been brought in for an interview.

by dryheat :: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 10:12am

I've always agreed with that. The owner should be hiring a GM to do the rest of the football-related hirings. It's on the GM do hire the right guy, or lose his job. When the owner upsets the chain of command and forces a coach or player on the GM, as Dan Snyder does repeatedly, nothing good is going to happen.

At any rate, Lombardi will be back with friend/mentor Belichick, so he has a nice parachute.

by RoninX :: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 12:28pm

How does the Pats (arguably the best FO in the game over the last decade-plus) wanting Lombardi back square with the dufus imagery a lot of people are trying to paint him with? Are the Pats perfect? No. Is Lombardi? I'm sure he isn't. But is he really a bumbler? Or just a non-transcendant GM?

I'm not sure we'll find out unless he gets another GM position.

by dmstorm22 :: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 12:42pm

Because BB and Lombardi are buddies? It's probably that simple. I highly doubt he'll have actual power there. Probably just a nice way to pump his resume for future jobs.

by RoninX :: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 12:44pm

FWIW I just saw this tweet from @JasonPhilCole
"Banner/Lombardi failed to deliver on promises made about who they would be able get after firing Chud. Sunk themselves."

I can't say that this doesn't makes sense especially in the context of the MMQB piece. If they fired Chud to get someone specific and then failed then, ouch...

by dryheat :: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 3:19pm

Well Gase, McDaniels, the guy from Wisconsin, someone else (Bowles, I think), Whisenhunt and Quinn all reportedly didn't want the job, so it's easy to imagine they promised Haslam someone and couldn't deliver.

by dryheat :: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 3:27pm

Lombardi knows his stuff. He's just not going to make any friends with the media, nor is he a young up-and-comer that excites. He's perfectly competent, but that management structure was doomed to fail trying to force Lombardi to share responsibilities with Banner, who thinks he knows football, but seems to dwell more in the business world. Add to that the fact that an accomplished, or even promising young coach is going to want authority over personnel, which Lombardi isn't ceding, and we have a FUBAR cocktail mixing.

by RickD :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 11:58am

Small comfort for Chudzinski. Seems like he was fired so Lombardi could go after Josh McDaniel. What a debacle.

At least they got rid of Trent Richardson.

by bubqr :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:00pm

I've been feeling bad for Raiders fans for a while, but most of their issues were probably coming from Al Davis, and his passing gave them some hope.
Now I feel even worse for the Browns fans, as their own franchise issues seem to be coming from the simple fact that they are the Browns.
I think Lombardi is a hack, but still, that's pretty crazy news.

I guess the bright side of things is the willingness of the owner to ensure that they have the best people in place before a 10 picks/2 1st rounders draft, even if it means owning up to his mistakes and cutting losses?

by drobviousso :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:01pm

Gotta be something in the water.

by LionInAZ :: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 12:35am

It's Lake Erie -- *everything's* in the water.

by MilkmanDanimal :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:11pm

"It's the Browns, but, hey, still pretty cool."

Seriously, what an utterly messed-up franchise in every conceivable way. I don't care whether or not Lombardi and Banner were capable, I just can't believe this was a smart decision. I mean, it might have been the right thing to do, but, as Cleveland did it, any positive effects are going to be purely accidental.

God hates Cleveland.

by Karl Cuba :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:16pm

The only explanation is that over the last couple of decades the Browns have been carrying out an extended piece of performance art, a masterpiece that explores the depths of misery caused by incompetence.

by MilkmanDanimal :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:21pm

"It's like Piss Christ, but with a football".

Seems entirely plausible at this point.

by CBPodge :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:25pm

Haslam still has the Pilot J thing hanging over him doesn't he? Maybe he's trying to prove that he's too incompetent to oversee a scheme like that? Or any scheme.

by Hurt Bones :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:29pm

Or more likely impetuous decisions to try and create a sudden improvement because he might realize he's on borrowed time.

by Will Allen :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 1:05pm

Or more likely that the sort of mind which would get engaged in a really stupid criminal conspiracy would also run the Browns in this fashion.

by tuluse :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:27pm

Wow. I feel really bad for Browns fans right now. No one deserves this.

by Will Allen :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 1:06pm

Jimmy Haslam does.

by tuluse :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 1:45pm

Fair enough.

No fan base deserves this.

by justanothersteve :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 4:25pm

He puts the fun in dysfunctional.

by barf :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 2:52pm

What a diabolical plan - Haslam is a Steelers fan and he buys the Browns and makes sure that there will be no success to look forward to in the near future. Pure genius.


"I'm in a glass case of emotion." Mainly because I'm a Chiefs fan...

by MC2 :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 6:50am

I've heard this theory before, but I always wonder, "Why bother? Why not just save up a little more money and try to buy the Ravens, or at least the Bengals?"

by apk3000 :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 8:25am

Because there's no way either of those two ownership groups are selling?

by MC2 :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 1:26pm

Any owner will sell if the price is right.

Besides, it was more of a rhetorical question, designed to highlight the redundancy of trying to sabotage a team that has repeatedly proven itself incapable of avoiding self-destruction.

by The Hypno-Toad :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 1:52pm

Now I am going to have the image of the Cleveland Browns as Malfunctioning Eddie from Futurama. I think this interpretation of events makes more sense and is probably less sad to a fan base that simply does not deserve what has been shoveled on them.


by MC2 :: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 3:54am

Maybe the Browns could make him their new mascot.

by johonny :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:30pm

I believe Jeff Ireland is available.

by barf :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 2:53pm

Well played.

"I'm in a glass case of emotion." Mainly because I'm a Chiefs fan...

by James-London :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 6:50pm

If God hated Cleveland that much surely he'd have sunk it beneath Lake Erie already?

It's never dull in Cleveland is it?

Phil Simms is a Cretin.

by Jerry :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:05am

It's never dull in Cleveland is it?

You've never been there, have you?

(Sorry, Clevelanders. I couldn't resist.)

by RoninX :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 3:59pm

Cleveland hasn't been submerged because it is a Sisyphus/Prometheus thing. Eternal punishment is worse than death.

by DEW :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 12:49pm

Honestly, I'm all over the place on this one. On the one hand, this seems nuts, to be firing the coach, hiring a new coach, then firing the front office that made those last two decisions.

On the other hand, firing Chud after one year seemed a fairly stupid move, and getting rid of Lombardi and Banner seems like a good decision in a vacuum.

If Farmer is going to keep the job, then things may play out all right, since he was presumably at least part of the decision to hire Pettine, on board with it, anyway. Thus, they can clean out the dead wood before the draft and let the new GM and new coach go and do what they want. At the least, it's better that letting Lombardi and Banner draft the players they think they need and then canning them both.

I am pretty curious about what brought this on, though. I'd love to know what the tipping point was that made Haslem say "good riddance" at this stage.

by Al Hirt Hologram :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 1:32pm

From what I've read Lombardi seems to be the football equivalent to someone evaluating hitters solely by RBI. It could be to the Browns franchise what the release of Dave Littlefield was to the Pirates.

by Danish Denver-Fan :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 1:38pm

So what IS Matt Millen doing at the moment?

by MilkmanDanimal :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 2:00pm

"Is it pants, then shoes, or shoes, then pants? I can never remember."

by Vincent Verhei :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 3:29pm


by Will Allen :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 4:00pm

Matt Millen, upon leaving his last job......


by Mike B. In Va :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 6:27pm

*slow clap*

by mehllageman56 :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 1:46pm

The problem I have with this, is not that they were fired, but why now, instead of when Chudzinski got fired also?
This also points out how much successful organizations in the NFL are dependent upon the owner, and the Browns have clinched the worst owner situation at least until the NFL removes Haslam.

by jklps :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 3:58pm

Haslam is more likely to be forced to sell if the federal investigation kicks up. No such luck for Washington fans with Dan Snyder.

by tomdrees :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 1:52pm

Bridgewater, Manziel, and Bortles. Who's the bust? Whoever the Browns draft. Duh.

by fb29 :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 3:13pm

So the guy who was responsible for bringing Matt Cassel to Kansas City in 2009 is now going to be picking Cleveland's quarterback of the future? That should go well.

Or maybe this is a big endorsement of Hoyer...


by barf :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 3:53pm

Cassel is most likely going to be available, so that could happen again.

I'm sorry Cleveland.

"I'm in a glass case of emotion." Mainly because I'm a Chiefs fan...

by Kevin from Philly :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 3:29pm

And I thought Philly was the epicenter of management futility (Sixers mostly).

Is the Brown's facility built on an Indian burial ground?

by Guest789 :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 4:04pm

I remember when Lombardi wrote for NFL.com - he was the only columnist that I disagreed with pretty much all the time. Just seemed objectively wrong about every player. Firing Chud was stupid, but this will turn out well.


“Treat a man as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a man as he could be, and he will become what he should be.”

by Michael19531 :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 4:43pm

Man, I really feel for the Browns fans. A once proud, trailblazing franchise that gave us Paul Brown, Otto Graham and Jim Brown has sunk to new lows. Cleveland fans deserve better.

Ironically enough, I watched the ESPN 30 for 30 documentary last night about the 1983 draft. The theme that spring was that John Elway would not play for the Baltimore Colts mostly because of the dysfunctional ownership of Robert Irsay.

Elway was killed for his reluctance to go to Baltimore, but he turned out to be right when the Colts left Baltimore in the middle of the night in 1984 and moved to Indianapolis.

This Haslem guy seems to be cut from the same cloth that Robert Irsay was.

by The Hypno-Toad :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 6:27pm

To be fair to Irsay, the Maryland legislature passed a bill granting the city of Baltimore the right to seize the Colts through eminent domain laws. I don't know how likely the move would have been to succeed on legal grounds. But any discussion of that, let alone a direct move from the statehouse, would probably light a fire under me to get the hell out of Dodge if I owned an NFL franchise.

by tuluse :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 6:49pm

The problem here is that Isray had decided to "get the hell out of Dodge" long before any eminent domain actions had even been considered.

by Hurt Bones :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 6:58pm

The eminent domain did have an effect though. One of his suitors (Phoenix) dropped their offer after the legislature's actions. Irsay had been trying to get the two to sweeten their deals. He had been negotiating with Phoenix for nearly three months when the legislature acted.

They might have become the Phoenix Colts.

by The Hypno-Toad :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 7:19pm

I agree with that. I just think that maybe the very compelling story of the Mayflower Trucks in the Night has come to obscure the fact that Baltimore, not their fans, but the people running the city and the (almost certainly doomed from the start) negotiations with the franchise should probably be assigned a somewhat larger portion of the blame than the general public seems to give them... The readers of this site are probably more aware of the whole story of the move than the general public, so my interjection was probably less necessary than it seemed when I did it.

by MJK :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 11:36pm

To be fair, that trailblazing franchise now plays in Baltimore, with a couple of SB rings since they moved there, despite what the NFL "officially" claims. It's an expansion franchise that's now being this stupid...

Sorry, that's kind of pouring salt in the wound, isn't it?

by Insancipitory :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 6:38pm

The Browns stability is best described by a complex number. It has both real irrational and imaginary parts. It just so happens the irrational part is also strongly negative. Math IS hard.

by Yuri :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 7:11pm

These are somewhat old but make for good reading.

Jimmy Kempinski on 2011 Prediction of Redskins winning the NFC East.

The Skins finished 5-11 which is what pretty much everyone expected.

Tommy Lawlor on Lombardi's history with the Eagles

And a Cleveland article from today, which I think is a little heavy on confirmation bias from the writer:

by Tim Wilson :: Tue, 02/11/2014 - 8:33pm

I humbly submit that this is better than all of them, from Chase at FP:


by bubqr :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 4:01am

I remember this one now. That was great, comments included.

Lombardi, since I follow the NFL, has been the biggest hack I've ever seen. That the Browns gave him a GM job is just beyond me. That anyone, after having listened to his bullshit for years, could think "He could be my team's GM" is honestly mind blowing.

by Riceloft :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:18am

MMQB has an excellent article on this situation.


by Yuri :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 3:23pm

Here's another good link, on another secret HQ interview that took place with Wisconsin HQ.


by Independent George :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:25am

In other news, I can't wait until the new season of Game of Thrones starts.

by Hurt Bones :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:30am

The Browns organization where heads roll more often than in Game of Thrones.

by tuluse :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:39am

Lombardi is the least effective leader I've seen since Joffery

by Will Allen :: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:48pm

Chudzinski may have been poor Ned Stark, hopelessly devoted to trying to do a good job, while surrounded by power-hungry half-wits. These doofi are obsessed with seizing the throne of the Cleveland Football Club, totally oblivious to the dragons and white walkers in distant realms in Pittsburgh, Cincy, and Baltimore who will once again lay waste to Cleveland.

I can't wait for a Red Wedding, when Norv is invited back to interview for the head coaching job, after it becomes vacant again. They'll have a press conference to announce his hiring at noon, and then one at 5 P.M to announce that he has been fired.

by PatsFan :: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 12:02am

Now the buzz is that Lombardi will be joining the Patriots' front office.