Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

10 Nov 2009

ESPN AGS: Bucs over Packers

The vicious cycle of Green Bay weakness... sacks lead to punts, punts lead to field position problems, and field position problems lead to Tampa Bay's first win of 2009.

Posted by: Vincent Verhei on 10 Nov 2009

9 comments, Last at 11 Nov 2009, 2:02pm by Ryan


by ammek :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 12:55pm

Can't read the article but…

— That's not a cycle!

— Giving up an 83-yard kickoff return and a TD on a blocked punt, while throwing three picks, also leads to defeat. But hey, sacks are more fun to write about.

by MilkmanDanimal :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 1:29pm

If only the article specifically said the blocked punt was the biggest play of the game and the 3-1 turnover ratio was the big factor!

Wait, it did. Try reading it?

by Fan in Exile :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 1:45pm

So what you're saying is that we should pay our money to people who can't even get the introduction to their own piece correct? I've heard better arguments.

by gridiron_grammarian (not verified) :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 8:02pm

"Green Bay gives up sacks at AN historically high rate."

by Zheng :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 10:54pm

That's never made any sense to me. No one says "an historically" when speaking. The 'h' is not silent. So why the an?

by BucNasty :: Wed, 11/11/2009 - 12:05am

Mostly it's a British thing, I think. When they say historically the h really is silent, so an is correct. Many Americans do it because they learned to in school, which is kinda sad.

by Fan in Exile :: Wed, 11/11/2009 - 12:17am

Or it's because the "h" doesn't really count as much of a letter. It some languages it's just a breathing mark even. So the the "n" will still show up as if the next word began with a vowel.

by Jero D (not verified) :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:29pm

Sack, punt, give up field position, defense runs out of gas after 45 minutes, rinse, repeat. 2008 blends into 2009, yellow flies, but hey, they are one of the youngest teams in the NFL...

Is Rodgers settling into habits of a Bledsoe-like proportion? Will receives ever be open enough for him to throw to? Will McCarthy ever "get his house in order"? Can the o-line hold for just one drop back?

Actually I have much more good to mention about the team, this didn't seem like the thread to bring that up.

by Ryan (not verified) :: Wed, 11/11/2009 - 2:02pm

Back when I was 12, someone told me: "the offensive line is the most important part of any team". Watching the '09 Packers 18 years later - it finally makes sense.