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10 Nov 2009

ESPN: Bill Simmons Podcast Midseason Football Spectacular

Yours truly guests on the Bill Simmons podcast along with Mike Lombardi, catching up with the NFL at midseason. Included: Lombardi and I make the same Super Bowl pick at gunpoint, why Miami is the best team with a losing record, and how the Giants might be similar to the 2005 Steelers.

Posted by: Aaron Schatz on 10 Nov 2009

10 comments, Last at 11 Nov 2009, 3:52pm by dmstorm22


by Still Alive (not verified) :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 1:50pm

I really enjoy a lot of Bill's work, read a column from time to time, and listen to most of his podcasts (pretty much all of them that are not about TV).

But oh my word do him and Mike Lombardi say some ridiculous garbage whenever they talk about the NFL. He already borders on an understanding little better than most announcers, and then occasionally veers into complete fan on the street mode.

MIA scoring too fast?

The contention that PHI fans belief that they had little chance of coming back against DAL distinguishes them from the fans of 90% of the other NFL teams? Almost every NFL fan I know bitches and moans about their end of game clock management.

The ridiculous need to fit everything into 100 different often inconsistent narratives some of which were thought up years ago and no longer have any relevance to anything...

As much as FO has been getting on my nerves at times, it is segments like this that make me be thankful that someone is looking at this from semi-rational perspective.

by Lou :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 4:50pm

i was thinking the exact same thing. what fan isn't nervous about their coach screwing things up late?

and bill's contention that the bears were somehow using cedric benson wrong was infuriating. as if they didn't think to open up gaping holes for him, and tell him not to fall down the first time someone touches him. at least lombardi tried to correct him on that.

i thought aaron sounded way better this time, much more relaxed and comfortable.

by anonymiss (not verified) :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 7:03pm

Almost every NFL fan I know bitches and moans about their end of game clock management.

I'd take it a step further - almost every fan base is convinced it's cursed, it's unlucky, "this stuff only happens to us," etc. Not all of them, but most of them.

Hey, there's more bad luck out there to get. Only one team gets the parade at the end of the year.

by Matt (not the registered one) (not verified) :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 6:06pm

Lombardi is a know-nothing, and anyone who can't see that (Simmons) can't know much about football either.

by anonymiss (not verified) :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 7:00pm

Totally agree on the Lombardi sentiments expressed here. I'm stunned his career is taking off.

Bill was wrong on Benson, too. Benson 2009 is a little like Roger Clemens 1997. The Blue Jays didn't get the chunky, slacking Clemens, they got the toned-down, desperate-to-stick-it-to-Duquette Clemens. The Bears gave Benson plenty of chances, and Benson did not take advantage.

by anonymiss (not verified) :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 7:09pm

Lombardi was called Matt Schaub "Matt Schwab" in a recent podcast with Bill. This wasn't a one-time slip up, ooops, ha ha. Lombardi REALLY thought the guy's name was Schwab. When Bill made a joke out of it, Lombardi didn't get it at first.

I have a few expectations of my NFL Experts. High up there is, oh, I don't know, maybe know every starting QB in the league. That's a good start.

by mjb :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 10:55pm

Just a minor nit pick on the Aaron segment of the podcast. The Panthers actually traded next year's number one pick to the 49ers, not the Eagles.

by dmstorm22 :: Wed, 11/11/2009 - 4:00am

Honestly, I always say that there is a reason that Lombardi has worked for so many franchises. It is because he has left so many franchises.

I always say that any old-GM guy who is now in the media is only in the media becuase they suck at their job at evaluating talent and no one wants to hire them, like the fool Lombardi and Charley Casserly for example.

Also, he loves the Pats way too much. Its mainly he has a gigantic mancrush on Belichick, but it borders on neauseating.

by Bowl Game Anomaly :: Wed, 11/11/2009 - 12:33pm

That may be true for Lombardi, but Casserly was a GM for 16 years for only 2 teams, and left the Texans voluntarily IIRC. Incidentally, he was only fired from the Redskins because Snyder determined that he and Norv could not function together, and Snyder chose Norv. He's also over 60, which is old enough for semi-retirement. So I don't think it's fair to say he's working in the media because he sucked as a GM.

by dmstorm22 :: Wed, 11/11/2009 - 3:52pm

You're probably right. In fact, I'll apologize to Charley. I just wanted another example of a GM who is in the media like that.

I only have Lombardi, but he's a good enough example to front my theory.