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18 Oct 2006

Scramble for the Ball: Rotohead Nation

by Bill Barnwell and Ian Dembsky

Bill: At what point does it become acceptable to hate a beautiful play because it ruins one of the ancillary football products you're involved with? Torry Holt's catch this week was a thing of beauty -- concentration, incredible agility, hand control, and throughout it all ... I was cursing my television. Why? Because Torry Holt's catch all but ensured my Slightly-Named Lock of the Week would, in fact, not be a winner. When Seattle marched down the field and kicked a game-winning field goal, was I amazed at Josh Brown's stupendously clutch kick? Nope -- still angry about the catch. What does that say about me as a football fan? Should I be rooting for football to provide the most exciting action possible, or is it OK that I'm drafting threatening letters to Maurice Morris? And furthermore, what does that say about the future? Betting's old hat, but fantasy football's a pretty young enterprise; are we going to see fans in ten years with no allegiance to anything but touchdowns? Long field goals? Who count receiving yards in twenty-yard blocks?

Ian: It's true that there are lots of us out there now -- guys with four fantasy rosters, paying attention to every game, and after every score wondering in which leagues it helps us or hurts us. Then there's pick 'em pools, survivor pools, the Loser League, and who knows what else. I think we need a new noun for these kind of people, myself certainly included. "Fantasy nut" is the most common way I describe myself in this manner, but that doesn't quite cut it. I'm gonna go with "Rotohead." Even though few people do rotisserie football, roto has become the uber-term for all fantasy sports, and hey, there's "head" involved. Everyone likes head.

Bill: Especially if you can crown them...

Ian: All that being said, as many of us as there already are, there are many, many times more people who are purely loyal to their local team, and that's it. Football will have no shortage of fans who just want their team to win, who will root for a score any way they can get it, and will never be happy when the other team scores, even if the game is already in hand.

Football stadiums don't fill up with Rotoheads -- we prefer the comfort of a TV and live internet updates of how long Rian Lindell's field goal was against Detroit (over 50-yarders are worth six fantasy points). We prefer to be able to rush to the waiver wire to grab Kyle Boller when Steve McNair goes down with a concussion. We prefer to remember if we have Seattle favored by 2.5 or 3.5, so we know whether or not we care about Josh Brown's game-winning attempt. What we don't care about is the experience of being at the stadium, then being stuck in traffic for hours on the way out so that we have to wait forever to see who scored what. I am a member of Rotohead Nation, and I'm proud of it.

Bill: Who knows, though? Just think of the things you can do in Madden with your team in ten years. They offer seat-side PVR-enabled TVs there, so I mean, why can't they be around in real life by then? Maybe they'll have the Goalposts of Light, too. Enough about Madden, though. It really was quite a week.

In Boston, since I wasn't watching The Cosby Show with the local brewmaster, I got to watch my beloved Giants beat the Falcons while the scores of several much more exciting games passed by on the ticker, with scores changing rapidly while I tried to figure out what had transpired. The great thing, of course, was that what had actually happened was even more fantastic than what I'd fathomed, what with Torry Holt juggling and Todd Heap catching impossible throws and Jake Delhomme throwing the ball as high as he possibly could and all. Meanwhile, I was watching Brandon Jacobs gaining PAR.

In all seriousness, I know I spoke some about this in Audibles this week, but I really can't fathom what Tony Siragusa is bringing to an announcing booth -- well, a stadium, but the proverbial announcing booth. He will butt in randomly, say something entirely irrelevant, and then disappear again. I am all for networks breaking out of the typical talking head formation they employ, but if you're going to use Siragusa in a non-typical comedic role, why not have him do things that are actually relevant and interesting? Have reports with him trying the food at each stadium. Let him interview a cheerleader. Do a feature with him interviewing the linemen who don't normally get coverage. Let him introduce the cheerleaders to the linemen who don't normally get ... coverage. While he eats a brat. Doing his goofy Russian accent from 25th Hour. Just do something different.

Ian: Yeah, I know he's trying to give you that "on the field" viewpoint that the guys up in the booth can't get, but it doesn't really work for me either. Speaking of things I don't get, what was up with the fish at the Giants-Falcons game? For those that didn't notice, several times during the game FOX superimposed (at least I'm pretty sure it was superimposed) a huge Jumbotron of swimming fish over the seats of the Georgia Dome. Then, when coming back from commercial, they showed the whole city of Atlanta, but with the swimming fish superimposed over the sky. What was that all about?

Bill: It's FOX. Let's just be happy it wasn't a robot fish stretching. Mike T. needs to do an interview with the FOX graphics team at some point. Or maybe MDS needs to do an Every Play Counts analyzing the FOX graphical robot world.

Ian: On to commentary about the actual football games, of which I have plenty. Where else to start but in Tampa? A fantastic finish, and the Buccaneers are finally off the schneid. For those that didn't see it, on fourth-and-3 on the Cincinnati eight-yard line, a completion to Michael Clayton was initially ruled incomplete, as the ball came loose when he hit the ground after stretching out to cross the goal line. Thankfully, instant replay correctly changed the play to a completion and a touchdown, as stretching out for the end zone was ruled a "football move." Cincinnati made a desperate attempt to convert a late field goal, but it fell short and Tampa came away with the victory.

Of course, the ending is what will be talked about most, but more important was the return of the Buccaneers defense we've come to expect. Rudi Johnson was held in check. Carson Palmer didn't have much time to scan the field. There weren't many missed tackles. The storyline of Tampa's season has been the downfall of a perennially dominant defense, so it will be very interesting to see if this past week was a return to form, or a one-week special.

Bill: Well, Ned Macey begins his column this week by pretty much stating the latter, and I'm inclined to go with Ned. Five weeks of mediocrity outstrip a single week of competence in my book. I also read your statement in the above paragraph at first as "Rob Johnson was held in check," which got my mind racing. I'm pretty sure Rob Johnson could get tagged out playing Ring Around the Rosie with a group of four year olds. I'm pretty sure he could be held in check by an Apple IIe. Rudi Johnson, however, is slightly more difficult to corral, yes.

Ian: Speaking of teams playing excellent defense for one night, you have to hand it to the Arizona Cardinals. Sure, they're depressed and pissed off about the way they lost on Monday night (as I think most non-Bears fans are), but now lost in the shuffle was a dominant (yes, dominant) defensive effort from Arizona. The two sacks-turned-fumbles were both deftly executed, and the tackling was impeccable. The interceptions were mostly gift-wrapped; more on that later.

After watching all the Monday night games this season, is it just me, or is there a trend of home defenses playing better than usual? Week 2: Jacksonville shuts down Pittsburgh. Week 3: New Orleans shuts down Atlanta. Week 4: Philly shuts down Green Bay. Week 5: Denver shuts down Baltimore. Week 6: Arizona shuts down Chicago. Visiting offenses are averaging a total of only 217 net yards per game, passing and rushing combined! There seems to definitely be something to the effect of the big stage on Monday night along with the home crowd. Let's see if Dallas eats up Eli Manning this next week, and if Minnesota can control Tom Brady and the Pats in Week 8.

Bill: Well, since I'm betting on the Giants this week, I am utterly sure they will hold him to 97 yards passing. OK, Ian -- the floor is yours.

Ian: For the record, my thoughts on the collapse in Arizona: This falls mainly on the coaching staff. Criticize Edgerrin James if you want, but it's not like he was missing nice cutback lanes or falling on first contact. The Bears were all over him, usually just after he touched the ball. Criticize Neil Rackers if you want, but it appears the kick was tipped, not to mention a 40-yard attempt from the left hashmark was ridiculous to begin with.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. This is the message I want to deliver to the geniuses that decided to run down the clock just because they were in position for a 40-yard attempt. Had they been watching the game? Did they notice that out of the shotgun, Leinart was carving up the Bears? Anquan Boldin couldn't be stopped, and the running game was at its best out of the shotgun formation.

By going to the I-formation and watching the clock run down, the Cardinals announced to the Bears that they were handing off up the middle, which made no gains on their last two runs absolutely predictable. If they'd stayed in the three-wide, shotgun formation, they probably could've tacked on another 10 yards by simply running handoffs; the plays wouldn't have been so obvious.

What were they worried about anyways, that they'd leave too much time on the clock for the Bears? Last time I checked, Chicago had almost as many turnovers as first downs. The coaching decision to take a virtual knee on the 30-yard line was terrible. If you didn't see Dennis Green's post-game tirade, check it out here. Sure, Dennis, the Bears are what you thought they were, but you are also what we thought you are -- a bad coach.

In Carolina, Jake Delhomme and the Panthers beat the Ravens with a surprisingly potent passing attack. Seriously, does any non-quarterback matter as much to his team as Steve Smith? The Panthers looked lifeless while he was injured; now they look once again like playoff contenders. I'm one of the likely many people who had Delhomme on my fantasy bench this week (in favor of Jake Plummer, no less), but I won't be making that mistake again any time soon.

Speaking of Denver, what a terrible win against Oakland Sunday night. It turned out that Mike Shanahan was able to get away with relying on his defense, but the game shouldn't have been that close. Early on, Jake Plummer looked very effective throwing to Javon Walker, as well as rolling out and finding the open man the way he loves to. For some reason, once Denver was up by 10, it was decided that the Denver offense should consist solely of handing off up the middle, and occasionally passing on third down. It was as if Shanahan didn't trust Jake not to give away the game. They escaped with a win, thanks in large part to Lamont Jordan's untimely fumble. Conservative play like this, however, will not pay dividends down the road.

Then we had the other end of the spectrum in New Orleans, where Donovan McNabb tested the Saints secondary early, often, and even more often. McNabb was launching bombs all over the field. Unfortunately for him, the vast majority were unsuccessful, and all those incompletions led to stalled drives. It was strange they were throwing deep so often, with Westbrook running so effectively. The Eagles also failed to use L.J. Smith's pass-catching abilities as often as they should have. It's one thing to test a defense now and then to keep them honest; it's another to go crazy stretching the field.

Finally, some quick hits: I heard lots of people question the Unsportsmanlike Conduct called on Larry Johnson for the hair takedown. The penalty was for L.J. yanking Polumalu up after he'd already been tackled, which indeed deserved the flag ... Why is it Eli Manning constantly throws passes just high enough so that the 6'5" Plaxico Burress can get his fingertips on them, but can't bring them down? ... Brandon Jones of Tennessee looks really good every time I see him on the field. I'm already projecting him as a third-season breakout candidate next year ... Time to give Roy Williams his due. When the Detroit offensive line buys some time, Williams can really tear apart a defense ... What was with Marty leaving Tomlinson in for his fourth touchdown with the game already well in hand? Was he sending a message of some kind? Maybe he was up against Michael Turner in his fantasy league ... San Francisco gave up on the run way too early. Gore was averaging over five yards a carry; no reason to go exclusively to the air until the fourth quarter at least ... Miami-New York was such a boring game that I barely watched it even though it was the only close late game. Laveranues Coles was pretty amazing though; his fake slant-turned-long touchdown was a thing of beauty.

Loser Leaguers of the Week

Bill: We didn't really have a particularly poor performance in Loser League this week ... and then Monday Night rolled around. And all was right in the world again.

QB: Rex Grossman, it turns out, isn't perfect. Who would've thought? Oh -- right -- Mike Kurtz. Grossman's 7 points earned through passing were counteracted by four interceptions and two lost fumbles, leading to a woeful -5 for the man who could do no wrong. With that number, Grossman takes the lead for worst performance of 2006. And somehow, his team won. The magic that Neil Rackers can do.

RB: Ron Dayne barely earned a lone point this week, recording 14 yards on 10 carries against the Cowboys. I'm sure he hit the hole real hard on those 10 carries. No other running back had below 4 points, leaving Dayne on an island of his own this week. Maybe this is the Giants fan in me, but I feel if Ron Dayne were alone on an island, he'd probably die real quick. That is, unless they shipped five really big guys to the island to stand eight feet in front of him and clear his path everywhere he walked. Then he might last a year. A question, though -- who had the worse receiving day? Kevan Barlow had three catches for three yards, or Willie Parker, who had one for -11. Which would you choose?

WR: Finally, Amani Toomer falls back down to Earth. A single point for the week is more like it for STEVE HOLT!. Roddy White, meanwhile, continued to not be the #1 receiver for Atlanta while earning a 2. Honorary mention to Tim Dwight, who isn't on many Loser League teams, but scored a 0 for the week despite having three catches. He was a damn good sprinter, but he isn't all that great of a receiver.

K: Sebastian Janikowski has been one of the positive things for the Raiders this year. Actually, he might be the only positive thing the Raiders have produced so far this season. Unfortunately, though, even Seabass can't overcome the vortex of suck that is Oakland. His 1 is the low score of the week for kickers. Teams that drafted Michael Koenen, meanwhile, are on a run of +15 performances because of his benching as a kicker, which means they're basically out of the running. Of course, I drafted Robbie Gould and he hasn't missed a kick all year. So I'm just out of the running because I'm bad at Loser League.

Scramble for the Mailbag

V. Runnels: One owner in my league picked up Marques Colston off waivers earlier this season. He's been starting him as a TE all season, since my league has Colston listed as a TE/WR even though everyone knows Colston isn't a TE. The commissioner of the league sent out an email calling the team owner a cheater, and declaring that the owner would no longer be allowed to start Colston as a TE and would lock the owner out from making any further roster moves. I was curious to hear your response to this situation.

Bill: Did the commissioner take the owner off his Top 8, too? Geez. See, I think a player being listed under a category he realistically never plays at is one of the fantastic parts of fantasy sports -- it's a subtlety that separates real fantasy aficionados from the casual player. I like to think there are uptight parties where people are talking about their fantasy roster, somebody lists Marques Colston as a wide receiver, and someone else snickers haughtily and remarks that they'd never dream of using him anywhere but at tight end. Work gets boring sometimes; I imagine these things.

I also had a related idea a couple of years ago with regards to fantasy baseball in an entirely opposite vein: If Major League Baseball is going to collect a billion dollars from fantasy sites and companies in rights fees, that money needs to go to good use. I demand a Fantasy Player Discretionary (Slush) Fund. This would mean that teams receive bonuses for doing things to improve the quality of fantasy baseball. Does a team have a closer-by-committee? The Fantasy Baseball Discretionary Fund would give them $3,000,000 to decide on a closer, announce their choice, and give that closer 90 percent of all save opportunities for the rest of the season, barring injury. That way, the team gets a little extra money that outweighs the marginal risk of picking a closer, and fantasy players get another option for saves.

It has tons of possibilities -- on all kinds of scales. For $75,000, Carlos Beltran has to attempt to steal every time he gets on base for one game. Or, to do the opposite. For $150,000, Andy Pettite isn't allowed to do his pickoff move in a game. The Josh Phelps problem is where this came up in my head first: that would've been the most expensive one of all. When he first came up and was slugging .560 or so, the fund should've coughed up $6,000,000 to turn him into a catcher for 20 games. I am sure this will happen one day because it simply has to. The lobby will get too strong.

Brad: Still high on selling Greg Jennings, or is he a keeper now?

Ian: Early in the season, Jennings was rarely targeted by Favre, he just made the most of his opportunities. Now, it's almost like Favre looks to him before Driver. I'd absolutely hang on to Jennings at this point. Looking ahead at the schedule, Green Bay has some juicy matchups down the stretch with the Jets at home, at San Francisco, then Detroit at home in Weeks 13-15.

Adam B.: I have Pennington, Plummer, and Rivers all at QB in a 12-team keeper league. Do we know enough yet to determine whether any one of the three is drop-worthy?

Bill: At this point, I don't think dropping any of the three is a good idea, mainly because the best of the three (Plummer) is at his lowest ebb, while the worst (Pennington, or if you don't believe, Rivers) is at his highest. The most important rule in fantasy football is to buy low and sell high. Cutting Plummer just isn't a good idea at this point; his next few weeks are against the 21st, 17th, 14th, and 29th-ranked pass defenses in football. Meanwhile, Pennington's got Detroit and Cleveland coming up, which are good games for him, but that might be the perfect time to get rid of him; he has a bye, then New England and Chicago back-to-back. There's gotta be somewhere I can place a bet on Pennington getting hurt in one of those two games. Rivers plays three of the top ten pass defenses in football in the next five weeks as well, so he'll probably see at least a slight dip in his numbers. I would deal Pennington while he's healthy. Try and target a team with an under-performing quarterback -- maybe Matt Hasselbeck or Carson Palmer owners, or Kurt Warner if the sad sack owner didn't grab Matt Leinart with him.

Check out the Football Outsiders comics archive and Jason's wacky Gil Thorp blog.

Keep Choppin' Wood Award

Ian: There weren't many good candidates on Sunday. We considered giving KCW to whoever it was that was the twelfth man on the field in Philly, which cancelled a sack and led to New Orleans' game-winning field goal. We considered the entire Washington defense, which allowed future Hall of Famer Travis Henry (surely I jest) to rush for an amazing 178 yards en route to an embarrassing home defeat at the hands of the formerly winless Titans. Pittsburgh guard Kendall Simmons did his part, missing Sunday's game because he froze himself. Then, of course, the Monday night game happened.

Neil Rackers certainly put in his bid for the award, thanks to his missed 40-yarder at the buzzer. It's unclear if the kick was partially deflected though, and he should not have had to kick from that distance anyway, so he's out. Then I thought: Edge clearly deserves the award. He set an NFL record for most carries with an average of less than two yards per carry. He also fumbled into the Bears' second touchdown. Really, though, how much is it his fault? I discussed it earlier: He had nowhere to run. And while the fumble was bad, I'd like to see you hang on to a football with Brian Urlacher ripping it out of your grasp.

The Keep Choppin' Wood award is based on a premise: who did the most in an effort to help his team lose this week? That's why this week's Keep Choppin' Wood award winner is none other than Rex Grossman. This may be the first time we've given the award to a player on a winning team, but a week after the Grossman love-fest reached its peak (and I was also a believer), he was horrible. When the pressure came, he had no feel for it. When it didn't come, he couldn't find open receivers. The score should have been 7-0 after the first play of the game, but he overthrew a wide open Bernard Berrian on a bomb. And it's not as if his interceptions were tipped balls, or well-disguised coverage; he simply threw it over and over again right to the defense. The Cardinals even managed to drop a few easy picks. As Aaron Schatz points out on the Football Outsiders FOX blog, this might have been the worst passing game in the past decade. Congratulations Rex Grossman, you're the first ever winning Keep Choppin' Wood award winner!

Best Bets

Bill: (2-1 last week, 11-6-1 overall)

Stupid Torry Holt. Almost another perfect week. So bitter. And now, I can't even bet anywhere. Stupid port security bill.

Philadelphia (-5) over TAMPA BAY

Every week, pretty much without fail, there's always one line that makes me absolutely shake my head and wonder what I'm missing. This week, we have a Philadelphia team that's barely lost two close games at a team that's barely won one. Furthermore, the weaker team is starting a rookie quarterback against a team with the third best adjusted sack rate in football. And, somehow, they're only getting five points? Are you serious? This is -- wait for it -- my Catholic Match Girl Staredown Lock Of the Week. That's right.

New York Giants (+3.5) over DALLAS

Picking a road dog worked last week with Carolina, so let's try the Giants here. Want a reason why? Osi Umenyiora and Michael Strahan versus Drew Bledsoe and two tackles who might be wearing Pettiti jerseys. Are Pettiti jerseys ironically cool yet? I want to go to South by Southwest next year and see a band of bloggers all wearing Rob Pettiti jerseys. Of course, I'd also like to see Tony Romo stay out of this game until the third quarter. Hopefully, the Giants will put together a whole game for the first time all season.

SEATTLE (-7) over Minnesota

Well, Seattle did jilt me last week. But with that being said, I can't see Minnesota's offense being able to cope with the crowd noise in Seattle, Brad Johnson or not. If I had to pick an exact line, I'd say Seattle by 11. And no, this is not a pity pick so Doug Farrar can feel better. At least, not entirely.

Worst Bets

Ian: (1-2 last week, 6-10-2 overall)

Ya know, if you'd spent your season picking with Bill, and against me, you'd be an incredible 21-12-3 against the spread? We're here to help.

Jacksonville (-9) over HOUSTON

Jacksonville is playing some excellent football right now. Their run game is clicking, it's setting up the passing game, and the defense has been excellent. Houston doesn't even know who their starting running back is, much less how to move the ball down the field against the Jaguars. This looks to be a heavily lopsided affair.

Washington (+9.5) over INDIANAPOLIS

The Colts have had only one win this season by more than a touchdown, and that was at home against Houston. Washington may have problems, but they're certainly in better shape than the Texans. Teams have been running the ball well against the Colts, which is what Washington will certainly look to do on Sunday. They should bounce back from last week's loss to Tennessee and at least cover against Indy.

Carolina (+3) over CINCINNATI

Tampa showed that defensive line pressure was the key to slowing down the Bengals offense. Enter Julius Peppers and the Carolina Panthers. The Panthers offense is also back firing on all cylinders, with Keyshawn providing that missing ingredient that Carolina needed from last season, an aerial threat other than Steve Smith. They'll be tough to stop as long as they stay healthy.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell and Ian Dembsky on 18 Oct 2006

93 comments, Last at 24 Oct 2006, 3:43pm by Xian


by Will Allen (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 8:17pm

Hey, I really didn't pay attention to the Redskins/Titans matchup, bit did many people in the media make much note of the fact beforehand that the Redskins would be playing without their two starting defensive tackles, as I've read was the case? It just seems to me that lots of teams would get gashed on the ground with those sort of injuries, even by the Titans.

by Matthew Furtek (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 8:33pm

Washington will be without afore-mentioned tackles this week as well.

And their only maybe competent CB (Carlos Rogers) is out with a broken thumb. That's right folks, Peyton Manning will be playing pitch-and-catch to Marvin Harrison/Reggine Wayne against a starting CB duo of Kenny Wright and Mike Rumph.

Done laughing? Springs might play for some spot duty again, but it's largely unknown how much. Besides, why would you throw on Springs when Mike Rumph/Kenny Wright is the other CB?

The final score could very well be 55-49... and then Campbell can start against Dallas after the bye week for Week 9. Or maybe I want the Redskins to completely be inept on offense so Campbell can come in sooner... so I'll root for it to be 55-10.

Sorry to bring bad betting news Ian... if the Redskins win I will be shocked. The good news is thei

by ZS (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 8:33pm

You missed a good Loser League WR - Rod Smith. One catch, 13 yards (or something in the teens).

by Matthew Furtek (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 8:34pm

... and yes Will, I don't remember many people mentioning Washington would be without both starting DTs. In fact I'm not sure I was aware of it until after the game.

by Matthew Furtek (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 8:35pm

... and the opening MNF game was played at Washington... they didn't really shut down Minnesota.

by beedubyuh (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 8:39pm

Ian, it's there for the taking. C'mon. Do it. The Johnny U Blue Steel Lock of the Week. Make it happen. Do it. Seriously. Do it.

by birk (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 8:43pm

Rod Smith would have been good if he had another catch to avoid the 15 point penalty.

by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 9:02pm

"Catholic Match Girl Staredown Lock Of the Week" --- Awesome !

by zip (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 9:04pm

That's the best name for a lock of the week evar.

by Becephalus (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 9:10pm

Minnesota was on the road in week 1.

by MJK (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 9:22pm

My vote for Keep Choppin Wood would be one of two. First, Kendall Simmons. Really, how does one take yourself out of a game because you froze yourself? It's kind of like taking yourself out of a game because you chopped you foot with an axe.

Of course, the better candidate is the Cardinal's OC, but since he just got fired, maybe that was adding insult to injury...

by admin :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 9:33pm

Edited reference to MNF Week 1...

by Will Allen (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 9:40pm

Hey, I know there are websites for injury news, but it might be kind of neat if there was a injury thread here, with people posting on the team they follow most closely. Not that I presume, Aaron, to tell you what to do with the bandwidth you are paying for.

Matthew's post on the pickle the Redskins' defense is in just reinforces for me how inadequtely most of us account for injuries when evaluating a team's performance. Yeah, when a high profile team like the Patriots gets nicked up, more attention is paid, but it is also quite common for the issue to be inadequately evaluated. If the Redskins go 7-9, you can bet they'll be a lot more "Gibbs has lost it" chatter than "The Redskins had a lot of injuries".

Take away the two best cbs and dts on just about any team in the league, and that defense is going to suck with gigantic force.

by michael (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 9:41pm

When i talk about applying "Value over Replacement Player" (replacement player value being, of course, the (#teams x #slots)+1th highest scoring player per position) in my own fantasy league , I always refer to it as WANKRmetrics.

And no, WANKR does not stand for anything... except as, mostly, a cry for help.

Nobody ever comes to help.

by michael (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 9:52pm

Wait - did CM girl vanish? I keep refreshing, and I can't find her. I can't place the Lock with my Bookie until I look into her eyes, so I know she's on board.

by Cristian (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 10:37pm

Ok I want your oppionions on this trade offer I've made and it sound like the other guy might go for it...

I'm dealing J.Addai and a sixth round pick in next years draft in our league, for T.Barber and his eighth round pick next year.

Its a PPR league with 14 teams...I've been pretty unlucky this year (6th in scoring, but only have a 2-4 record) I have T.Bell and Westbrook at the RB position right now. We do a two player max keeper from season to season, So the guy is getting Addai as a probably keeper, I feel that Bell,Westbrook,(and even P.Manning)would be better keepers, So I don't feel bad about dealing his "potential away" for Barber's "currant abilities"...Does anyone see this as a bad deal? anyone have any reason to think Barber will nose-dive in the second half or lose a ton of TDs to Jacobs?

by Bill Barnwell :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 10:38pm

ZS - receivers have to make two catches to get a low score - they receive a multi-point penalty if they only receive a single catch.

by Bill Barnwell :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 10:52pm

I will also note that if Catholic Match Girl was replaced by Yoshihiro Nakao kissing Heath Herring, I might end up quitting FO.

by Pat (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 11:07pm

We considered giving KCW to whoever it was that was the twelfth man on the field in Philly, which cancelled a sack and led to New Orleans’ game-winning field goal.

Rookie Omar Gaither (LB) was the twelfth man, who was in for an injured Eagle. He didn't notice that Philly had switched into a dime package, which means he needed to get off the field. That was admitted later.

by Shalimar (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 11:09pm

Am I the only one who thinks the Catholic Match Girl is under 4 feet tall? She looks like an elf.

by Insancipitory (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 11:22pm

Re 20, "Catholic Elf" is one of the few porn markets under served by the internet. I can only assume this plays a significant role in her popularity as a meme.

by NF (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 11:29pm

I'm trying to sell Ronnie Brown high and package Jerious Norwood along with him to get an actual starting fantasy back. My other RBs are Maurice J-D (flex WR/RB) and Tatum Bell. Which RBs should I be targeting to trade for? I'm trying a shotgun approach to hope someone falls for it.

Also, should I trade Deion Branch, Maurice Morris, and Phillip Rivers for Rudi Johnson? How about Rudi Johnson and Joe Horn? (The latter violates a prinicple that I am not touching any of the receivers I drafted in 2005; Joe Horn, Roy Williams, and Brandon Stokely.)

by Cristian (not verified) :: Wed, 10/18/2006 - 11:38pm

I think having Rudi Johnson and T.Bell for the second half of the season will serve you well...Without knowing your depth at WR I'd do that deal,,,although I would definetly request a WR in return as well,,,I'm not high on Horn either (maybe its the same reason, I had him last year too)...

Branch is looking good, though, but I think the upside on Johnson is worth the deal.

Any oppinion on my question above at #16?

by JonL (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 12:02am

their only maybe competent CB (Carlos Rogers)

given how badly he's been burned this year, that's a big emphasis on "maybe"

by terryh (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 12:19am

Well, Catholic Match Girl may be gone, but at least I get a pink laptop!

by Len (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 12:45am

Bill, don't look now but your man Eli has more sacks than Bledsoe.

by NF (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 1:02am


I forgot to mention that the trade I am proposing and the ronnie Brown situation are in different leagues. Although I am pursuing a trade for Rudi in the league that I have Ronnie Brown.

by Bill Barnwell :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 1:27am

Len - Manning's dropped back 21 more times, though.

by Kyle W (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 6:39am

I have one fantasy dilemma for this week. Turner against the Chiefs or Morris against the Vikings? I have to admit I hate the league I am playing in though, it uses defensive as well as offensive players and I am continually losing to teams whose players keep recovering fumbles which is worth an outrageous amount of points for an entirely random event.

by houlie (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 8:38am

Re: the Marques Colston TE/WR situation. Mark Furrey started last season with the Rams as a wideout, but was eventually (injuries?) converted to their starting FS I believe. Yet yahoo left him listed as a WR. And even offense players in the league i was in received 1 pt per tackle (usually only relevant after a turnover). Anyway, I was in a ridiculously deep league, and down the stretch I realized Furrey if I dressed him as a WR would get me a solid 4-6 pts per game (yes the league was that deep). So I picked the guy up and actually had him dressed for a couple weeks (including the championship) and I took the league title. I didn't see it as cheating at all, rather savvy GMmanship.

Just thought I'd share that. No one else I've told this story to cares, maybe someone out there will...(sigh)

by Harris (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 9:47am

Screw Catholic Match Girl, has anyone seen Michelle Beisner on NFLN? Day-um. She's so hot, she made Adam Schefter by some ladies glasses so he could see her better.

by Spike (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 10:30am

Seeing that Cincy lost a key OL this week, I'm on the verge of cutting their kicker. Anyone see problems with picking up Rackers instead? They get Oakland this week, a nice respite from a certain "team of extreme luck."

by Adam B. (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 10:34am

Heh -- I'm the Pennington/Rivers/Plummer owner, so I appreciate the feedback. I still don't know which guy to start this week, though --

Rivers @ KC
Pennington v DET
Plummer @ CLE

-- and I think I have them ranked in that order.

by Stillio (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 11:01am

Jacksonville:Greg Jones FB, Reggie Hayward DE, Mike Peterson MLB - out IRMatt Jones WR, Marcus Stroud DT - doubtful5/22 starters and Houston is still +9 at home...sad.

by Adam B. (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 11:06am

Spike, at this point in the season, my attitude is that if you're going to add a kicker, get one whose bye week is already past, and that's not the case with Rackers.

Kyle: Morris, on the chance that the sucking will end.

by calig23 (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 11:15am

So, I'm in need of a TE this week, as Todd Heap has his bye. Any suggestions on potential pickups? Right now, the best options include:

Alex Smith (Phi)
Heath Miller (@Atl)
George Wrighster (@Hou)
Chris Baker (Det)
Dallas Clark (Wash)
Ben Watson (@Buff)
Jermaine Wiggins (@Sea)

by Jesus Christ (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 11:24am

Two things:

1. Carlos Rogers is not out for sunday's game, he will play with a cast. And that might not be the disadvantage you'd think, because he has dropped about 6 or 7 INT's this year already so he can't get much worse.

2. Kendall Simmons is a diabetic, that's why he got the cold-burn on his foot. The injury isn't as hilarious/outlandish as everyone here is making it seem.

by Matthew Furtek (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 11:45am

Re: 37
That's why he's listed as "Out" on the injury report?

It's been repeated over and over (on Redskins forum) that he is out with a pin/screws in his broken finger and will miss Sunday's game and be back against Dallas. He isn't even allowed to play with the type of hard cast he has on.

Where's Mr. Carroll (sp?) when you need him? Oh yeah, he's on that silly fantasy show... where everyone looks like the Verizon guy.

by Mike (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 11:53am

Wow, the commentors on the FoxSports Blog are really the class of the Internet, aren't they?

by DavidH (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 12:02pm

I think a lot of them are just taking out their frustration arising from the fact that Fox is giving the FO posts preferential treatment. Can hardly blame them. I mean, I don't know who reads this crap :)

by ABW (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 12:19pm

Should I be concerned about the Bengals running game without Levi Jones? Benching Rudi Johnson sounds crazy, but I have a pretty good backup in Laurence Maroney...any other Rudi owners or Bengals fans out there have opinions on how he's going to do against Carolina?

by MCS (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 12:20pm

OK. The Gil Thorpe blog cannot be healthy.

by noah of the ark (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 12:32pm

Is there an unwritten rule that says that Ian can't pick the same games as Bill? Why does he always seem to pick teams that... well?

And why does Rob Johnson's name seems to pop up in every football thread? Just let me forget the man, please.

by Dash (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 12:38pm

#16 - The reason I'd be skeptical about the trade is the change in picks for next year. Barber hasn't scored all year - are you going to start him over Bell or Westbrook? Especially if you think the other guy will keep Addai for next year, I'd see if you could make the trade straight up, esp. since Barber has debated retiring recently.

#33 - I'd say Pennington. Detroit's been fantasy gold for opposing QB's, and with Rogers out, their pass rush will be diminished.

#36 - I'd go with Alex Smith. 2 TD's in 2 games with Gradkowski, you've at least got decent odds for a TD, which is basically what you hope for out of a TE. I'd suggest Wrightster next, then Miller if you're not comfortable with Smith.

by Dash (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 12:41pm

#41 - Rudi's still basically an every week start, especially over Maroney, due to the RBBC.

by Eli Sprecher (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 12:45pm

sorry for asking it again, but i'm mad conflicted about it: i've been offered marvin harrison for marques colston, and i have crumpler at te. crumpler's been pretty mediocre this year, my other receivers, until larry comes back, are eric parker, deon branch, and donald driver, and the saints do have some pretty poor matchups coming up. should i take the trade? any and all tips would be appreciated

by cjfarls (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 1:03pm


Are you in a keeper league? For a 1 season trade, DEFINITELY take Harrison.

If you're a keeper league, I think you can probably hold off until LF comes back... Branch is turning it up, Driver is decent, and as an injury/bye fill in, Parker doesn't completely stink. Colston's value comes over multiple years, Harrison's comes this year.

by Harris (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 1:04pm

I can't believe we made it this far with no one mentioning this: "Everyone likes head."

Yes, yes I do.

by Bob P (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 1:23pm

If you check out the NFL.com page which lists all games, you'll see the broadcast team for Arizona at Oakland looks like this:

FOX (1:15 PM PT): Matt Devlin, Tony Siragusa.

So am I missing something, or will the Goose actually be the in-booth analyst on this game?!?!?

by Fnor (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 1:40pm

Whither the Loser League? I have both Grossman and Janikowski so this week will be interesting, but my RBs and WRs have a tendency to get penalized....

by zlionsfan (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 1:46pm

If your league is online, and it lists Colston as TE/WR, starting Colston as a TE = perfectly acceptable. If it lists Mike Furrey as WR, starting Furrey as a WR = perfectly acceptable. (Of course, this year he's not likely to suit up on the other side of the ball, although he couldn't be much worse than the Lions' existing secondary.)

If you're in an offline league, I suppose there's an argument to be made that you should only start Colston at WR ... but in that case, I think it's up to the commish to designate eligible positions in advance, and to have rules established as to when/if players change eligibility.

The impression I got was that this was a league on Yahoo or something like that, and that the commish simply didn't like that this owner saw TE next to Colston (hasn't this been all over the fantasy world already? How did the commish not know this?).

I like finding players like that, although it applies much more to baseball than to football. Being able to play Soriano at 2B or LF, hoping Carlos Guillen will get that 10th game at 1B so he's eligible there next season, things like that.

by cjfarls (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 1:58pm

Re: 36

Miller, Clark or Watson I think are every week type TE's, so would go with one of them. Of course, HOU is awful so Wrighster might be worth a play... although I'd stick with one of the 3 I mentioned.

by Independent George (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 2:01pm

#50 - I second that. This was easily my best Loser League showing of the season. I have Grossman, Edge, Barlow, Toomer, Keyshawn, and Janikowski.

by cjfarls (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 3:03pm

OKay, my question:

Randy Moss v. AZ, or K.McCardell v. KC...

by Fnor (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 3:11pm

#54: No?

Sorry, but that was my first thought. I'd go with McCardell.

by compucrazy (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 3:52pm

Fantasy football question's. I have 4 staring caliber backs, Tomlinson, Tatum Bell, Frank Gore (bye), and Willie Parker. Tomlinson is an auto start every week, so that leaves three guys fighting for the second spot. Who should I start this week Bell vs. Cleveland or Parker vs. Atlanta?

My recievers are Torry Holt (on bye) Plaxico Burress, and Donald Driver, with Chris Cooley and Witten my other guys. Should I attempt to trade one of the three "tier 2" backs to allow me to bench Driver whose been a major dissapointment? If so who should I trade, and what recevier would be good to try to get?

by Geoff (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 4:03pm

Just a slightly different opinion on the Colston thing. A lot of the arguments seem to operate around the assumption that playing a player at a position he doesn't really play at is common in fantasy. I would actually disagree with this statement. Playing people at positions they no longer player is commonly accepted in fantasy baseball. It's actually quite rare in fantasy football.

Fantasy baseball is a very different game than fantasy football. The differences are too many to list but I'll list a few that are relevant.

1) Players shift positions frequently, often on a game to game basis.
2) There are enough games that you frequently do not know where a player is going to play in any one game
3) Too many players switch positions to deal with giving/taking away positional eligibility on an individual basis.

I guess my point is that I don't think forcing people to use football players at the position they're actually playing is unreasonable. I don't have a problem with the commish telling the guy he can no longer use Colston at TE.

Of course, unless the league has some standing agreement only to use players at their actual position regardless of elgibility, accusing the kid of being a cheater and locking his team seems completely over the top.

by B (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 4:11pm

Could this be the week that Oakland wins a game. DAVE ranks them at -38, and the Cardinals are at -20.7. When yo ufactor in the home field advatage of 17 points for Oakland, the game is a tie. Of course, at this point, does Oakland even have a home field advantage? Can Arizona bounce back from the heartbreaking loss by crushing the worst team in football?

by Kyle Manning (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 5:37pm

RB question. 17 rushing yards = 1 point, 1 reception = .75 points, 20 receiving yards = 1 point. Which RB of thse?

Maurice Jones-Drew vs. Houston
Lamont Jordan vs. Arizona
Warrick Dunn vs. Pittsburgh
Maurice Morris vs. Minnesota
Cadillac Williams vs. Philadelphia
Corey Dillon vs. Buffalo

I have Jones-Drew on my roster now the rest are FAs. I really like Jones-Drew's matchup in Houston(along with being the best pass catcher of the bunch), but after looking at the FA group I wasn't sure who to go with. I'll have Steven Jackson back next week to pair with LT, so I only really need a guy for this week.

by fromanchu (not verified) :: Thu, 10/19/2006 - 7:34pm

I've got quite the dilemma this week, I have jones drew against houston, ronnie brown against green bay and addai against washington. An easy decision a week ago, but since washington's injuries and subsequent thrashing by the titans, addai might be worth a play. Any opinions?
Also, hasselbeck against minnesota or leinart against oakland this week?

by Nick (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 1:41am

Alex Smith (v. PHI) or Dallas Clark (v. WAS)?

by the K (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 4:32am

Okay fellas.

I don't ask for fantasy advice often, but I'm in a supreme pickle this week and would gladly accept advice.

First, 3 of my 4 RBs are on bye this week, and I'm required to start 2. Waiver wire frantic scouting ensues. My starts: Leon Washington and Marion Barber. Ow.

Next, this just happens to be the first week I notice both of my TEs (Heap and Desmond Clark) are on byes. Killer. So, another look at the waiver wire, and I quickly snatch Dallas Clark, not great this year, but it could be a lot worse.

Now, the best of all, and the needed advice. I have the following "options" available to me for defense:

Redskins, @ IND
Vikings, @ SEA
Cardinals, @ OAK
Bills, vs NE
Colts, vs WAS
Lions, @ NYJ
Raiders, vs ARI
Browns, vs CLE
Packers, @ MIA
Buccaneers, vs PHI
Texans, vs JAC

Yeah. So, I'm leaning toward the Colts or Packers D. That's how bad it truly is. Suggestions?

by the K (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 4:33am

Oh, also I could grab Kevan Barlow or Jerious Norwood to start at RB, if those choices are "better" than my currents. Yeah, I'm really screwed this week.

by the K (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 4:38am

Sorry for not having my **** together before posting and spamming the comments, but as long as I'm asking for advice, I have 3 WRs and need to start 2. Boldin starts, that's a no brainer. For the other, do I hope Chad Gipmy Shoulder Johnson can break out vs. Carolina, or do I roll again on Santana Boom or Bust Moss vs IND? Starting Moss would also kind of rule out using the Colts D, but...well I'll just see what you all have to suggest.

by Adam B. (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 10:13am

TheK: I hoped you dropped Clark in the TE move; no need to hold onto three TEs. For a D, take the Cardinals: Oakland will not play mistake-free. And I might take Barlow over Barber.

by Big J (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 10:29am

Advice question if you got a sec...
Need 3 RBs out of R Brown(v GB), McGahee(v NE), Cadillac(v Phi) or Foster(@ Cin)?

Also Williamson(@Sea) or Jenkins (vs Pitt) for my number 4 WR?

by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 10:38am

Re: 66

I don't really like any of those RBs. McGahee & Caddy have terrible matchups and Brown & Foster just haven't been very good regardless of matchup. I guess if I had to pick an odd-man-out, it'd be Foster.

by Dash (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 10:45am

Another RB question: my RB2 is on bye, and my choices are: Addai (vs. WAS) or Maroney (vs. BUF). I have Maroney in now, but Addai has a good matchup (with the Redskins' DT's out and all). Thoughts?

by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 10:58am

Re: 68

I'd go with Addai, too. If Washington's tackles weren't (practically) all injured, it'd be a tougher call.

Here's my question. First, I've got an odd-man-out question at RB. I've got Ronnie Brown (v.GB), Maurice J-D (@Hou), and Rudi (v.Car). I love the matchups against GB and Houston, but can I really sit Rudi Johnson in favor either of them, even with the tough matchup???

Second, I'm playing pick-up defense and I'm looking at either Arizona (@Oak), Detroit (@NYJ), or Cleveland (v.Den). I'm kinda scared about the Cards having a let-down after that MNF game and one of my self-imposed mandates is to never play any Detoit Lion. So that leave me with Cleveland?!? I know Denver's offense has been miserable, but can I really start Cleveland's D-Fence against them?

by Big J (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 11:31am

re 67: you don't think Foster's matchup makes him playable? my instinct is to bench Cadillac

by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 11:38am

Yeah, Caddy was definitely 3rd. If your instinct is to start Foster over Cadillac I really can't thinkg of a convincing arguement against it.

by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 11:53am

This is for a different league than the one I was asking about in post #69.

I hate not being able to limit the possible options for these questions because this probably won't draw too many responses, but I just have a crap-ton of respectable RBs and WRs and I have abso-friggin-lutely no idea who I should be starting. I need a RB, RB/WR, and 2 WRs out of this:

Rudi Johnson (v.Car)
Ronnie Brown (v.GB)
Warrick Dunn (v.Pit)
Chester Taylor (@Sea)
Maurice Jones-Drew (@Hou)

Reggie Brown (@TB)
Roy Williams (@NYJ)
Reggie Wayne (v.Was)
Darrell Jackson (v.Min)
Greg Jannings (@Mia)

Right now I'm going with Johnson, Williams, and both Browns. (This is a 10-team league, btw)

by Mike W (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 11:59am

Adam B #33 - that's amazing - I have the same triumvirate of QBs in one of my leagues. I'm going with Chadwick. I don't trust Marty to keep throwing every week.

by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 12:11pm

I really wish I was a gambling man because I'm 49-38 so far in a spread-pick 'em league. I usually stink and picking against the spread, so I just needed to toot my own horn a little bit. I know nobody really cares, but unlike in real life, when I post stuff like that on the interweb I don't get my wife's look of disappointment mixed with a little dash of shame.

by Podge (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 1:27pm

Question: Is this the week I finally give in and sit Carson Palmer, and start Byron Leftwich over him? Leftwich has an ace matchup (Houston), and Palmer has been very average, with problems on the O-Line. Currently I'm 80% in favour of Leftwich, any input?

by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 1:37pm

Re: 75

In case it means anything to you, I'm starting Leftwich over Rivers and Hasselbeck in one league, and over Hasslebeck again in another league (w/ Bulger on Bye).

by Aaron Boden (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 1:44pm

catastrophic bye week problem

Should I start Joey Harrington or Bruce Gradkowski? This sucks man.

by Pat (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 1:53pm

That's an easy one. Joey Harrington. Better Green Bay's defense than Philadelphia's.

by the K (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 1:54pm

Adam: Actually I put all three TEs on the trade block till Saturday, seeing what dangles out there. I doubt anyone will bite as I'll either have to cut one of them or the Redskisn D (maybe not such a bad move) to get a D I'll use this week.

by the K (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 1:55pm

Oh, also, as far as Barlow over Barber, let's remember I have the legendary Leon Washington. I could use Barlow instead of him but I somehow don't think both Jet RBs even against the Lions is a very good play.

by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 2:28pm

Re 80:

That's actually kind of an interesting idea. You have three bad options, but with two of them are on one team playing both of them would ensure that you don't miss on any "production" from the Jets' RBBC. I can't believe I'm actually going to suggest this, but Washington/Barlow may not be such a bad idea.

by Nilblog (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 2:29pm

If Vick has another game in which he runs for over 100 yards while passing the ball no better than could a walrus, don't we Vick FF owners have a good argument for making him RB eligible? I'm serious about this (both the walrus bit and the eligibility).

by Mike (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 4:06pm

LT always starts as RB#1...so should my RB#2 be W. Dunn or M. Jones-Drew? Their predicted FPs are relatively close this week and as such am learning hard towards Jones-Drew, even though he starts behind Taylor and is a Rookie.

S. Smith will be my WR#1. My WR#2 is up for grabs between L.Evans, P. Burress, and R. Williams. As with J-D, I am leaning towards R. Williams due in the most part because they are playing HOU this week.

I will be starting Leftwich over Pennington this week as Bulger is on a bye...this choice was harder for me than I first thought even though DET's pass defense stepped up to the plate last week (Relatively speaking).

Is playing the JAC-HOU card so heavily this week a sound strategy considering that the matchups my other players have for the most part aren't all that bad?


by clonmullin (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 4:39pm

Fantasy trade opinions wanted (needed !!). Normal scoring except for 16 teams with only three bench positions (1WR, 1RB and 1 other) which means very little on the waiver wire that's worth anything in the skill positions. My team, league wise, is strong at RB (R Brown, J Jones with Barlow as back up) and ok at WR (3 from Ward, Colston Keyshawn and Toomer) with my QB being Favre (original pick was Culpepper). I've been offered Edge and Cotchery for Brown - accept or counter looking to get Deuce McAllister (other WR he has are Chambers & Kennison)? The league is run on a playofff basis in weeks 15 to 17 so if I qualify (leading my division on 4-2) Brown will have a hard run in

by Athelas (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 4:43pm

#49-I just heard Siragusa and yes he is doing color at possibly the worse game of the year.

by compucrazy (not verified) :: Fri, 10/20/2006 - 6:51pm

Would start Tatum bell at cleveland or Willie Parker at Atlanta? any advice?

by Schrodinger_cat (not verified) :: Sat, 10/21/2006 - 9:09am

Bulger's on bye this week...I know it's pointless, but would you start Gradkowski or Frye?

by cjfarls (not verified) :: Sat, 10/21/2006 - 2:52pm

Okay another question of my bad options:
W/R flex spot- Choose one:
Travis Taylor
M. Morris
M. Turner

by DavidH (not verified) :: Sat, 10/21/2006 - 3:20pm

OK, my question-

I need to start either Eddie Kennison or Eric Parker. They're playing against eachother in KC.


I'd go with Williamson vs SEA, mostly because Seattle's pass D has been worse than Pitt's so far. I think it's a crapshoot as to whether either of them scores, and Williamson has a better chance of putting up decent yardage. Slightly.

by DavidH (not verified) :: Sat, 10/21/2006 - 3:38pm

Oh, or Ernest Wilford or Chris Cooley

by DaveP (not verified) :: Sat, 10/21/2006 - 11:26pm

Williamson@Sea or R. Smith@Cle? If anyone had suggested I'd have a question about this as the start of the season I'd have thought they were crazy, but Smith's been invisible and Seattles not good against WRs. Neither's good, but which is better?

by David C (not verified) :: Sun, 10/22/2006 - 7:15pm

#84 Brown is on a high right now, and that's not going to continue, so this is definitely a good time to trade him, but Cotchery is barely a top 25 receiver, and James isn't even a top 15 rusher. I'd trade Brown for McAllister and Chambers/Cotchery if you can get it. Also, find a way to replace Barlow, but he probably isn't worth anything now that Washington has broken loose.

Question: I'm thinking of picking up Wali Lundy in my 10-team league before somebody else snags him, but who do I have him replace?
My current roster:
Carson Palmer(QB), Rex Grossman(QB), Ronnie Brown(RB), Rudi Johnson(RB), Leon Washington(WR), Braylon Edwards(WR), Donald Driver(WR), Hines Ward(WR), Bernard Berrian(WR), Greg Jennings(WR), Jerricho Cotchery(WR), Marques Colston(WR/TE), Randy McMichael(TE), Mike Vanderjagt(K), Philadelphia(D). Currently, I'm thinking either Cotchery, Edwards, or McMichael, with Jennings as a distant possibility. Or should I just stand pat, and not pick up a fourth running back?

by Xian (not verified) :: Tue, 10/24/2006 - 3:43pm

Trade thoughts?

I have Hasselbeck, Vick, and Rivers. Hasselbeck is out for a while, but I'm comfortable with Rivers.

My RBs are Ronnie Brown, Droughns, and Norwood. Could definitely do with an upgrade there.

I'm shopping Vick around, pretty much just looking for a straight-up trade for an RB. Should I accept a trade for Dunn (paired with Norwood, could be good), or a trade for Leon Washington (who has a high DPAR, but made over half of his points in my leage last week)?