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20 Sep 2006

Scramble for the Ball: Six Mississippi

by Bill Barnwell and Ian Dembsky

Bill: I try and make being conspicuously wrong a habit, if solely to make the FO readership feel on the level. Sure, maybe not everyone has the knowledge and analytical skill to do work like Mike Tanier. God knows I don't. My role on the wonderful Football Outsiders website is to make refutable statements, watch them be refuted, and then blindly shake my head like I'm a five year old. Then, when you are right, faithful readers, you get to feel like you are smarter than me. It is not my incompetence but merely a psychological exercise to boost egos around the world. Except for mine.

With that all in mind, it is my privilege and pleasure to say that I was, in fact, very wrong about the Eagles passing attack. For three quarters of regulation, the Philadelphia Eagles' pass offense was not, in fact, equal to that of the Giants' pass defense; in fact, Donovan McNabb and company made me dream of Conrad Hamilton and Phillippi Sparks. Fortunately for me (and Ian), the Giants were simply laying in wait, something that had nothing to do with the Eagles pass offense whatsoever. In fact, the only reason the Giants had the opportunity to make good on their second drive in overtime were glaring drops by L.J. Smith and Donte' Stallworth, who very much looked like a breakout receiver during the game.

Oh, and I've said this about two dozen times, but it still terrifies me: Eli Manning plays quarterback like your seven-year-old cousin playing Madden. He makes all the throws -- the chicken with his head cut off bullet, the one where he lobs it over the middle and his receiver makes a sliding catch in traffic (which the FOX announcers preposterously complemented him for afterwards), and finally the definitive Madden throw where he was panicked by two unblocked blitzers and tapped a receiver button as fast as he possibly could. Of course, like Madden (at least, Madden '04), Plaxico Burress caught the ball with little or no interference from the defensive back, ran over him, and waltzed into the end zone. Exactly how they drew it up.

Ian: Not to take anything away from McNabb, Stallworth, L.J. Smith and the rest of the Eagles' passing attack, but any team can move the ball through the air at will when the other team can't get within five yards of the quarterback. Where was the Giants' pass rush? Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyiora and the rest of the D-Line were totally shut down, leaving McNabb all day to scan the field and find the open receiver. Ever play 4-on-3 football with friends, and you add a 5-Mississippi rule where the quarterback is simply down if he doesn't throw the ball by then? That rule is put into place because otherwise he can just stand there all day, and of course, he'll eventually find an open receiver. Watching the Eagles pass was like that, but with no time limit. Frankly, I was mostly disappointed that the Eagles didn't run up the score more than they did, given the lack of defensive resistance.

Elsewhere around the league, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are one bad week away from breaking out the retro-creamsicle uniforms. Two weeks, no touchdowns scored. The strange thing is that as a long-time Bucs fan I'm not really all that depressed about it. Performances like this were my entire childhood. The year we won a Super Bowl was an incredible one, and nothing can take that away. If we're headed for another ten seasons of suckitude, it's nothing I haven't been through before -- but at least we won a title.

Atlanta deserves some major praise. There's nothing more deflating to a defense than facing an offense that can simply run the ball at will on you, and that's what the Falcons have been able to do. It's becoming clearer and clearer that whether or not Michael Vick can pass accurately is not important. What's more important is the way he, Warrick Dunn, and Jerious Norwood can team up to give a team fits trying to stop the run. Maybe the New Orleans Saints should teach Reggie Bush to pass the ball with mild efficiency, then run him out there as a quarterback. It helps to have the ball in the hands of your best player on every play.

Another team that deserves some major praise is the New York Jets, even in losing. It turns out that the perfect complement to Chad Pennington is receivers that can maximize their yards after the catch. Laveranues Coles has been electric, and Jerricho Cotchery has also provided a nice spark in the passing game. Chad's strength has always been to deliver short, accurate passes, and it seems the Jets are doing their best to take advantage of that. If they can keep this up, perhaps the Under bet on the Jets won't be the most likely of scenarios.

One big help to the Jets' potential success this season is the demise of what looked to be a promising season for the Miami Dolphins. Enough about Daunte Culpepper not quite back from injury -- he was terrible against the Bills regardless! Repeated early fumbles that simply slipped out of his hands, red zone passes directly to Bills defenders, holding the ball in the pocket way too long -- these are not symptoms of a bad knee. These are symptoms of a bad quarterback. The thing that irked me the most watching Sunday's game is how infrequently Ronnie Brown touched the football. Ronnie Brown is one of those few running backs that can seriously make defenders miss. He hasn't looked that much worse than Larry Johnson running with the football this season, except that Miami won't hand him the damn ball, and when they do, the offensive line is barely giving him daylight. In a relatively close game against Buffalo, Brown compiled 132 yards on a mere 21 touches, 15 touches coming via the handoff. This is far too few touches for a player averaging over six yards per play.

Some other quick hits from around the league: My goodness did the Jaguars defense look incredible Monday night. Should be a heck of a game at Indianapolis this weekend. Will the Colts even bother to hand the ball off? ... The only time I'm ever picking Green Bay again this season is in my Loser Survivor picks pool ... Looks like Arizona's offense still isn't strong enough to be productive against defenses both good and bad ... Could Philip Rivers' NFL career possibly have gotten off to a better start? What better spot for a rookie quarterback to be in than on a team with a dominating defense and running game ... Finally, a thanks to Bill Parcells for wearing a puffy jacket this week and keeping his boobs to himself. Stick with it Bill; it's a good look for you.

Loser League All-Stars, Week 2

Bill: Let's not talk about my team's Loser League performance this week. I am blinded by both my rage at Amani Toomer for ruining my LL team's week and my love for him for bringing the Giants back from the dead.

QB: I can't imagine that many people drafted Andrew Walter for their Loser League team, but if you did, you got paid off this week. He rolled a nice big zero this week, but he'll always be strong-armed. Maybe he can fire his wildly thrown balls through someone's chest next week and scare defenders away. Kerry Collins may also have not found many Loser League rosters because of the timing of his signing, but his -2 this week rewarded those brave souls who took a chance on him. Among those quarterbacks who were expected to start at the season's inception, there weren't too many awful weeks. J.P. Losman and Mark Brunell's 8s and Steve McNair and Jake Delhomme's 9s were the low-water marks for Week 2.

RB: Last one on the Kevin Jones bandwagon might want to put a forwarding address up. Several years from now, is he going to be our Jackie Rexrode? Our Jack Cust? Monster K did his falling-down-running-home equivalent this week by only gaining 82 yards from scrimmage and fumbling twice, leading to a 4. DeShaun Foster, who might be the captain of "STEVE HOLT!" if I could specify such a thing, non-delivered this week in spades. While he sadly did not fumble, a 3 for the week will do nicely. Cadillac Williams and Ron Dayne were equally effective, while those participants hardy enough to prescribe Cedric Benson playing time were rewarded this week with a 2.

WR: Only two wide receivers fumbled the ball this week, which sadly means that no one had the coveted negative score. Antwaan Randle El led the way this week with a zero -- that's right; he couldn't even muster ten combined yards on his two catches. There's your deep threat, Redskins fan. But hey, he's a great emergency quarterback. Beyond that, a veritable boatload of guys ended up scoring a sole point this week: Peerless Price, Reche Caldwell, Rod Smith, Lee Evans, and Michael Jenkins all showed up in spirit alone this week.

K: No missed extra points in Week 2, which makes for a less exciting Nugent Zone. That being said, Michael Koenen somehow managed to miss four field goals this week, keeping a woeful Tampa Bay in their game versus the Falcons and racking up a league-wide low of -5 for the week. The only competition for negative numbers this week at kicker consisted of his opponent, Matt Bryant, who missed two field goals on the way to a -1 performance.

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Best Bets

Bill (2-1 last week, 4-2 overall)

Green Bay (+6.5) over DETROIT

What, am I supposed to give Detroit some respect here? They've been absolutely miserable to start off the season. Roy Williams is clearly angling to be the "Don't" side of a Powerpoint at the Rookie Symposium next year. I'm pretty sure Mike Martz is charging the Lions on a page-by-page basis for his playbook and Ford is cutting costs. The Packers have looked about awful the first two weeks of the season, too, but I'm going to stand by my predicted (shudder) NFC North (shudder) champions. Hey, Rex Grossman can't stay healthy much longer. Right?

CLEVELAND (+7) over Baltimore

Only part of this pick is in the hopes that Ian won't get his jersey. That's an awful way to gamble, but I feel pretty confident that Baltimore's been matched up against some even more awful opposition these first two weeks. Steve McNair, as Aaron points out in this week's Quick Reads, hasn't been at all effective these first two weeks. I think that Baltimore's defense has the potential to dominate this game, but I don't see their offense doing very much. Baltimore might win, but it's been two games. If this game had been the season opener, the Ravens wouldn't be giving seven points on the road, and I think it's still safe to operate under that mode.

Atlanta (-3) over NEW ORLEANS

Atlanta makes its third straight appearance in my Best Bets, and they're on the good side for the second week in a row. While it's a small sample, Michael Vick is undefeated as a starter against the Saints. While Vick is about as good of a passer on grass (76.0 QB rating) as he is on turf (76.2), he averages over a yard more per carry running on turf than he does on grass, and 18 of his 20 career touchdowns have come on the hard stuff (where, granted, he's played 41 of 60 games.) I'm not saying that will make the difference in this game, but it's a little thing to think about. I just don't see the New Orleans defensive line being able to stop the Falcons' rushing attack, and if the Falcons can get any of their walking wounded on defense back, the Saints' offensive line will struggle with the Atlanta pass rush. Reggie Bush is really dynamic on an exercise bike. You'll be seeing a lot of that on Sunday while Atlanta runs down the Saints defense. The FO FOX blog has more on the Saints and other recent teams that started fast after losing seasons.

Ian (2-1 last week, 3-3 overall)

NEW ENGLAND (-6.5) over Denver

After last season's playoff exit at the hands of the Broncos, Brady and the Patriots want revenge. Denver's biggest strength has been its running game, but New England has the strength up front to neutralize it. Given the way Jake Plummer's been struggling, I can't imagine him having a good game on the road this week. Look for the Patriots to win on the backs of their defense with just enough offense to make the victory a comfortable one.

Carolina (-3.0) over TAMPA BAY

Ugh. Julius Peppers, meet Chris Simms. That should be worth a couple of turnovers in and of itself. I expect Carolina to win because I expect them to protect the football better, and as a result win a relatively close game by booting a few more field goals than the Bucs. This one is likely to be an ugly game -- especially for Tampa Bay.

MINNESOTA (+3.0) over Chicago

Who would've thought when the season started this would be such a big game? If Chicago wins this game on the road, the Vikings have a long way to go to win the division. If Minnesota can hold serve, then the Week 13 game in Chicago will likely be for the division crown. I've been pimping the Vikings up to this point, and I'm sticking with them. Look for a very similar game to Minnesota's first two games -- low-scoring, high-punting, close finish. It might not be a game with a lot of fireworks, but it will sure be fun to watch.

Jersey Watch

Ian: Another win for the Ravens, another game closer to them hitting the Over and me winning my Ed Reed jersey. The funny thing is, though, the Ravens victory over the hapless Raiders was more disconcerting than concerting as far as the Ravens' chances of making the over. Steve McNair and the offense really have not been getting it done. Dominating defensive efforts should produce more offense than we've seen from Baltimore so far. His long throws have not been accurate, and the running game hasn't been especially successful. McNair is doing enough to let his defense win, but he was brought in for more than that. That being said, next week's game at Cleveland should have the Ravens off to a 3-0 start.

Bill: I just want to note that the Ravens have played the Buccaneers and Raiders so far. In addition, Michael Irvin ranked them #1 in his top five thingamajig this week, which I'm pretty sure is some hard, empirical evidence that they're bound to come down real soon.

Scramble for the Mailbag

Thomas: I'm 0-2 in my 14 team PPR Fantasy League with 14 roster spots. As I enter week 3, should I drop the likes of Chris Simms? I already have Chad Pennington and Alex Smith. Also, should I give up hope that the Colts D will morph into an elite defense and drop them and just play the weekly matchups?

Bill: Thomas, let me answer the second part of your question first. Aaron wrote a lengthy piece on projecting defensive performance in this year's Pro Football Prospectus 2006. If you bought the book, I'd advise you to take a look at that; if you didn't, well, shame on you. I'll answer the question anyway though. It depends on a few things -- how many free agent defenses are available? If 16 are available, then you're likely to find a good matchup each week, and I'd recommend that you go on a week-by-week basis; if there are only eight, well, you might want to give it a second thought. How active are the other owners in your league at signing/waiving free agents, particularly free agent defenses? Are you going to be able to beat them to the punch each week when it comes to getting the best matchup? Finally, is there a transaction fee? Are you willing to eat that fee each week? In a league with no fee, lazy owners (besides you of course), and 14-16 freely available defenses a week, I would go on a week-by-week basis. Otherwise, I'd probably just stick it out with Indy. They're in a weak division and it's only two weeks in.

Keep Choppin' Wood

Another week full of honorable mentions for the Keep Choppin' Wood award. Roy Williams and his bogus "guarantee" warrants consideration. Daunte Culpepper truly looked terrible in leading the ‘Fins, though he's not calling his own plays, and handing off to Ronnie Brown more would have made his life a lot easier. Chris Gamble's terrible, well, gamble did not pay off when his lateral attempt after a Minnesota punt went terribly awry. Kerry Collins continues to show no good reason why he's the Titans quarterback and Billy Volek is headed elsewhere. Meanwhile, Chris Simms certainly did his part to try and repeat as the KCW winner for the week.

All that being said though, the winner has to have been a part of one of the biggest choke-jobs this season, that of the Philadelphia Eagles. The winner is none other than Trent Cole, whose completely unnecessary personal foul turned the tying field goal attempt from a 50-yarder, where Giants kicker Feely is 6-of-15 lifetime, into a 35-yarder, where he's 56-of-64. Not only was this the likely decider between the Eagles' winning and the game going into overtime, but what in the world was he thinking?!? Talk about losing your cool at the absolute worst possible moment. Individual efforts as boneheaded as this deserve both an earful from the coach and a Keep Choppin' Wood award.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell and Ian Dembsky on 20 Sep 2006

114 comments, Last at 28 Sep 2006, 12:58pm by Josh


by Independent George (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 7:05pm

Maybe the 'disappeared' loser league teams should be kept in a separate category? I have to admit, I was more than a little tempted to 'forget' that I'd picked a Rex Grossman/Brian Griese QB tandem throwing to Laverneus Coles... Alas, I am an honest man.

by MJK (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 7:08pm

I missed the game, but people keep talking about this, so I have to ask. What exactly DID Trent Cole do at the end of the Eagles game? I hear "unnecessary personal foul"... was it in between plays? At the end of a play? Against the QB? The ball carrier? Nowhere near the play?

by Jake (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 7:10pm


by Jake (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 7:11pm

Re #2:

I'm pretty sure this was in a different game (the Det-Chi one), but I saw a ref call "unfair celebration" or something like that. He sorta stuttered before he said unfair, it was hilarious. I think he meant excessive.

by Independent George (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 7:30pm

#2: Basically, he kicked Kareem Mckenzie in the nuts after the play was over. Somebody posted a link to a photo in the open discussion thread, but I don't have time to search for it now.

by Ian Dembsky (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 7:58pm

The official who made the call specifically said "Personal foul - Unnecessary roughness - Kicking an opponent." Unfortunately, he didn't say "Kicking an opponent in the nuts." That would have been a 30-yard penalty.

by Pat (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 8:14pm

I cannot tell you how much it sucks that a former Rookie of the Month, first-team All-Rookie DE, and a current sack leader in the NFL committed such a blatantly retarded penalty. Cole looks like such a promising kid, and this is not the way he deserves to be remembered right now. Hopefully this doesn't kill his aggressiveness, but hopefully he also learns to reign it in when the whistle's blown.

by Travis (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 8:28pm

Here's the photo of Cole kicking Kareem McKenzie in the nuts after the play had ended.

by Basilicus (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 8:34pm

My WR choices are saving me from looking like a total duff. Arnaz Battle, Peerless Price and Dennis Northcutt are Loser League gods so far (I'm hoping Arnaz's 7 score last week was a fluke), but I figured of Charlie Frye and Alex Smith, one of them would play in a sucky offense this year. Well, Cleveland has that sucky offense, but Frye keeps on refusing to suck along with them. It's very frustrating. John Hall will pay increasing dividends as the year goes on, but Robbie Gould has turned out to be a wasted roster spot. As is Chester Taylor. If I had reliable first and second-string RBS I wouldn't have to worry, but Ahman Green and Dominic Rhodes are killing me, absolutely killing me.

by Bobman (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 8:45pm

#6 30 yards? Oh, I get it, 15 for each nut.

Okay, I am a loving, devoted, dedicated, 37-year Colt fan, but on what planet are they favored by 7 over the defense that we saw on Monday night? Tepid run game, no Brandon Stokley, maybe no Kicker or Freeney? A WR rounding into shape who stands a foot taller than the smurf DBs.... A 7 point win would make me ecstatic! 3 would make me breathe easy.

by NF (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 10:11pm

An interesting point about a possible fantasy WR sleeper: in PFP 2006, it says that NYJ WR Justin McCareins looked like he would have a great career until he started playing horribly on third downs. This year he was demoted to 3rd WR. However, after two games he has a 75% catch rate with almost all his reception being on third down and achieving a first down. Unfortunately Cotchery and Coles have been playing just as well, so McCareins is not seeing as many passes thrown to him as last year.

My point is that if Cotchery or Coles misses time, pick up McCareins because I think he may have turned a corner and he will play at a high level if passed to more.

by NF (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 10:14pm

Did anyone else notice that Bill was so shocked by the performance of the Eagles passing offense that he forgot to answer the first part of the fantasy football question?

by Disco Stu (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 10:20pm

Maybe he figured that saving a team w Pennington, Simms, and Smith at QB was beyond his power.

by Stravinsky (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 10:22pm

"Another week full of honorable mentions for the Keep Choppin’ Wood award."

Shouldn't that be Dishonorable Mentions?

by Bill Barnwell :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 10:23pm

Wow, I sure did forget. Of course, he didn't mention what he would be dropping Alex Smith for.

by Ralph (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 10:32pm

Haha, the Jets deserving praise. They barely beat an awful team the first week and made a game against the Pats (at home) look close in garbage time. The Bills will win by at least 10 points.

by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 10:35pm

Off topic here, I know. Is this quote under the Johhny Unitas book advertisement supposed to be an endorsement?

"I've never read a football book written by somebody else that made me wish my own name was on it." -Dan Jenkins, author of Semi-Tough

Ummmm ok then Dan. Thanks for that. :-)

by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 10:36pm

I gotta admit. I'm a little disappointed that Marvin Lewis wasn't atleast a possibility for the Keep Chopping Wood award.


For not only keeping his key players in a 200 point game against the Cleveland Browns late in the 4th quarter (when his team is already fighting some injury problems) but also thinking it's a good idea to send his best player over the middle to get slobberknocked.

Granted, you can't predict he's going to get drilled like that....but he shouldn't have even been in that position.

Of course, I can't say that Trent Cole didn't deserve it. That was one of the dumbest things i've seen on a football field since Tommy Maddox last suited up.

by Shelley (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 10:43pm

Re: #9

I share your Alex Smith pain. I hate it when players suddenly "get it." I just pray for the continued craptacularness (and health) of Mark Brunell.

by Bill Barnwell :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 10:46pm



You're responsible for my favorite part of this year's book - the moment when Mike Patrick exclaims, and I believe I quote, "HA HA HA HA HA HA HA". Thank you young man.

But Marvin Lewis can't really compare to Trent Cole. At least Lewis has some concept of an excuse.

by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 11:03pm

If Tony Kornheiser and Joe Theisman continue their early season trends I could have a field day with them.

Take this past Monday night for example...

Theisman went on some tangent about how he liked what he saw from Ben and how "he is back" and whatever it is Theisman says when he likes to hear himself talk.

Two plays pass. Two. TWO! I kid you not. Two Freakin' Plays.

And the following conversation, paraphrasing of course (but pretty close) takes place:

Joe Theisman: I don't know. I just see something with Ben Roethlisberger right now, he just doesn't look comfortable like he has in the past.


Joe Theisman: When you watch Ben Roethlisberger you have to think....

Then the tag team sideline reporters started yapping about God knows what and we turned the sound down.....

by birk (not verified) :: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 11:21pm

Not only did you forget to answer his first question, you've changed the question from Chris Simms to Alex Smith.

by calig23 (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 12:13am


I don't know if you looked at this week's game thread here, but I made my own, brief, attempt at this year's Monday Night trio.

Not even close to yours from last year, of course.

by Devin McCullen (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 1:33am

2 questions:

1)At this point, should Cadillac Williams be moved to my fantasy bench until there's some positive evidence available? (For this week, that would mean Mike Bell, since I'm not touching Addai against the Jags.)

2)Nobody wanted to touch the Dolphins giving 11 1/2 points? I know the Titans stink, but Miami shouldn't be giving 11 1/2 to Vanderbilt.

by oppenheimer\\\\\\\'s pen (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 1:44am

concerning trent cole, that kick was so dumb it left me questioning whether or not he should be cut from the team. he could be between mediocre-good as a pass rusher, but what i got from the penalty was that this guy may not have the instinct to turn the aggression off, or lack the cognizance to read the opposing OL

by Pat (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 2:20am

he could be between mediocre-good as a pass rusher

Whew! I thought we were talking about Trent Cole, the guy who's currently tied for the lead in number of sacks in the NFL. Apparently we're talking about some other mediocre-good guy.

Lots of guys make similar mistakes. This one just happened to occur at a really bad time. Cole's taking Howard's place (who's taking Kearse's place) so I don't think they'll cut him anytime soon. :)

by oppenheimer\\\'s pen (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 2:45am

well, he is tied for the lead currently, but that doesn't mean he'll sustain that kind of production as a starter. i have no idea how many plays he can take per game before his stamina runs out, and i guess we'll get to find out.

by The Ninjalectual (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 3:15am

24: I have already benched Carnell in the league where I own him, and I expect he'll stay benched until the week after his first big performance of the year. Looking at Tampa's schedule, I don't see any pushover run defenses at all this year. For his numbers to increase, it's going to have to be due to a change in Gruden's offensive philosophy. Since we have no way of guessing how effective he will be when or if this happens, I'm opting to play it safe and start Fred Taylor in the meantime.

by David Ferrier (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 3:19am

what do the numberes mean? for example: NEW ENGLAND (-6.5) over Denver. Does that mean that NE will win by -6.5 points? no wait that makes no sense. I'm confused. How does this work?

by Yaguar (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 3:24am

Adam, I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but I suspect that the sports world will never run out of dumb commentary crews for you to parody.

by Fred Taylor\'s groin (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 3:28am

I’m opting to play it safe and start Fred Taylor in the meantime.

I think I've been on good behavior too long.

by Fred Taylor\\\'s groin (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 3:32am


NE (-6.5) means that when you place a bet on New England, they have to win by MORE than 6.5 points in order for you to win the bet. If you bet on Denver, as long as they get within 6.5 points, you win.

Another way to think about it is to take the final score (for example, NE 28 DEN 21), then perform the indicated operation (i.e. subtract 6.5 from NE, so the score is now NE 21.5 DEN 21). If the team you bet on is now ahead, you win.

Or maybe you were playing naive to take a crack at NE, saying there is now way they'll cover the spread. I can't really tell.

by Fred Taylor\'s groin (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 3:33am

I'm pretty smart for a groin, huh

by Dean from Oz (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 3:33am


I'm thinking about the Fair Catch Kick.

Rules as I understand them;

1. There is no snap.
2. The defense must stand at least 10 yards from the line of scrimmage until the ball is kicked.
3. The kicking team may not use a tee. The ball must be placed or drop-kicked.
4. Even if time expired on the preceding play, the fair-catching team may still attempt the kick.

Do the Jets know about this?

With Ben Graham on the roster, one of the biggest kicks in Aussie Rules, I daresay that he'd have no trouble from midfield or even a little further - that is 60 yards and he could definitely kick that far with good accuracy.


by Jeremy (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 4:16am

There was a missed extra point last week: from the NFL wire report - "Hunter Smith missed the Colts' last extra point after Vinatieri left with a groin injury."

by Dean (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 9:11am

I'm an Iggles fan, so I'm probably biased here, but I think people are being unduly harsh on Trent Cole. From the accounts I read, McKenzie came over after the play to help him up, Cole misread his intentions and reacted. Keep in mind that this is a man who's in a vulnerable position on his back and an opponent who outweighs him by 100 pounds is suddenly looming over him. I can see how it could happen. Should he have been penalized? Of course. Ejected? Maybe. But is this some element of a larger trend with Cole where he's the second coming of Leon Lett? All indications say no. This was an honest, albeit stupid and untimely, mistake. Judging by the picture, at least he got his 15 yards worth out of the kick.

by mikeabbott (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 9:19am

I'm a pats fan so I've seen the broncos beat brady 4 times out of five with the exception requiring a pretty clever deliberate safety as part of an amazing finish. In the rock/paper/scissors world of the pats/broncos/colts I find a 6.5 point spread for rock over paper amazing. I haven't seen the broncos this year, can they really be that bad?

by Neo (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:00am

I just acquired Jerricho Cotchery from waivers. I was wondering if I should go 3 WRs with Cotchery, Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne with Ronnie Brown as the RB. Or should I go Cotchery and Wayne as the WRs and Brown and McGahee as the RBs.

by Independent George (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:02am

#36 - As a Giants fan, I may be a little biased, but I personally like giving him grief because in my industry, I just don't have very many opportunities to say the words, 'kicked in the nuts'.

by joel in providence (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:11am

anyone else notice the top loser league team thus far?: "The Landon Donovan Experience."

that is just the PERFECT name for a loser league team.

by moloch g (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:17am

heres why that photo of cole kicking mckenzie cant possibly be the real photo...because kearse had been off the field with a season ending injury for an hour before that play.

by joel in providence (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:18am

sorry for the double post...

but for an absolutely GOLDEN laugh, scroll down and read all the loser league team names. guaranteed to brighten your thursday morning!

by Ilanin (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:23am

The calming mantra for Pats fans this week is "How many games has Shanahan won without Gary Kubiak?" (the answer, btw, is eight, when he was HC of the Raiders)

There may be a reason that Denver's offense sucks this year, is all I'm saying.

by Travis (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:23am

Re: 41

Cole's penalty came with 11 seconds left in regulation. Kearse was injured in overtime.

by moloch g (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:30am

oops...kearse was taken out in overtime..my bad

by Mitch Cumstein (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:50am

I officially hate Reggie Williams. He wastes a roster spot on my fantasy roster the last two years, and now he is killing my loser league team. At least I have Randle El going for me, which is nice.

by Pat (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:56am

well, he is tied for the lead currently, but that doesn’t mean he’ll sustain that kind of production as a starter.

Except for the fact that Cole's already been playing at a starter's pace, because Philly's rotating defensive lines.

The only real change for Cole is that he gets to play with better DTs and a better DE opposite him.

by B (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 11:04am

37: The Broncos lost to the Rams, who lost tothe 49ers. So everybody assumes they stink. This ignores the fact that the Rams are a completly different team at home, and the Patriots defense has always struggled against the zone blocking schemes of the Broncos. I expect Denver will have success on the ground, and the game will be within 7 points.

by jimmo (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 11:06am

re Neo #38: if you're talking about this week only, I'd start McGahee and Brown at RB, and Wayne and Moss @ WR. Buffalo has been a pretty tough matchup for receivers so far, so I'd roll the dice on Moss finally breaking out against the Texans. McGahee is a better play than Cotchery as well.

re Devin, #24: Caddy can certainly be benched, but I don't think I'd sit him in favor of Mike Bell vs. the Pats this week. Carolina hasn't stopped the run yet this year, and Tampa has to at some point stick with Williams on the ground. Gruden's pass-first philosophy is an issue, but early last year, they rode Williams a ton. I suspect that'll happen again very soon.

by Pacifist Viking (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 11:10am

48: Plus, the Rams often struggle at San Francisco, even when they're good and the Niners are bad. It's hard to say much about the Rams yet based on where and who they've played so far.

by Dean (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 11:19am

RE#39. I understand completely. I also work in a place where I'm not supposed to laugh about kicks to the nuts - which only makes them funner. But I still laugh at the name Marion Butts. :)

by Dave (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 11:22am

My league is 1 pt/rcpt, 1/12 yds rec, 1/10 yds rush, 1/25 passing with a 2 point bonus at 100 yds rushing and 300 yds passing. We play 2RB,3WR,1 W/R

I've got
QB: Vick, Hassleback, Grossman
WR: R. Smith, M. Jenkins, A Bryant, B. Engram, E. Kennison, E. Parker
RB: Westbrook, M. Bell, L. Jordan.

I've been offerred C. Taylor and A. Randle El in trade for Vick. Should I consider it? I was happy with Jordan and Smith before the season started, but I could use some help at W/R now. Will Hasseleback come back into form or Grossman continue in it so that I can afford to drop Vick? Will Taylor hold up and keep his numbers up? I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts.


by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 11:31am

I'm also in the Caddy-trainwreck dilemma. But my options aren't very enticing. I've got Cadillac (home) vs. Carolina, Mike Bell @ NE, and Chris Brown @ Miami. Right now I'm starting Brown. God, that hurts just saying (read: typing) it. I'm also starting S.Jackson @ Arizona, so I've at least got that going for me.

by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 11:36am

Re: 52

I'd seriously consider giving up Vick (considering your above average backup options) for Taylor and a 2nd tier WR, but ARE falls far short of that criteria. If the other guy is really that interested in Vick I'd try a counter-offer of Taylor and a better WR for him.

by NoJo (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 11:40am


I'd push for a better WR - like one who'll actually help your team. You probably need the help at RB and can spare Vick, but I'd like to see you get better value out of that, particularly right now while Vick's stock is sky-high.

by Scott de B. (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 12:28pm

The Broncos lost to the Rams, who lost tothe 49ers. So everybody assumes they stink. This ignores the fact that the Rams are a completly different team at home,

True, but then, so are the Patriots.

by Fnor (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 1:58pm

#56: In December.

by Tom Kelso (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 2:08pm

Who would have thought that Next Year We Draft ROBO-PUNTER would be getting killed by Jon Kitna?

OK, I have Cadillac, Reggie Bush, Addai and Maroney. I have to start two, but none of the defenses look like a good matchup. Is it crazy that I'm leaning to Maroney and Bush?

by DavidH (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 2:09pm

nice dilemma here, gotta choose one TE:
Todd Heap @ CLE
Heath Miller vs CIN

by DavidH (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 2:18pm

oh, and anybody got any inside info on vinatieri? should i pick somebody up off the wire this week just to be safe? problem is i'd have to drop somebody else

by Fnor (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 2:41pm

Miller. Cincy's going to be keying on the run and hoping Roethlisberger's last game wasn't just rust and pain. I'm willing to bet that it was.

by Tarrant (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 3:29pm

I have Peyton Manning and McNabb at QB. I'm leaning Peyton but Jacksonville's D is pretty good, making McNabb at San Fran maybe a great choice. Maybe McNabb is good trade bait for the future.

For RB, I'm part of that Cadillac train wreck. I've got Cadillac, Frank Gore, L. Muroney, and M. Anderson (@ Cleveland).

I can start 2, plus usually I put one in the WR/RB flex spot. Drop Cadillac to the bench this week?

by DavidH (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 3:33pm

Hmm, I just noticed Heath MIller didn't score in the second half of last season, so I took a closer look at his stats. Here are the averages for the last 7 games he has played with Big Ben throwing to him:
2 catches, 31.7 yards, 0 TD

2 of those were Chicago (0,0,0) and Jacksonville (1,11,0). Take those great defenses out and you get:
2.6 catches, 42.2 yards, 0 TD

Yeah, I know I am cherry-picking (he got 4 TD's in the 3 games before my sample), but I'm still a little scared. I think I might wait until they connect at least once before I start plugging him in. Especially since I have Heap as my alternative.

by compucrazy (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 3:48pm

Serious fantasy football problem. This week my money back LT is sitting down due to a bye week. I have Frank Gore starting and one of these three backs starting, Willie Parker vs. Cincy, Tatum Bell vs. NE or Wali Lundy vs. Wash. Who should I start? No option really looks appealing any advice?

by DavidH (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 3:59pm

The QB choice is tough. It's hard to ever bench Manning. I might go with McNabb in your case, though. SF has given up 4 TD and 0 INT so far, while Jax has given up 1 TD and has 5 INT.

As for the RB, it's hard to make a decision without knowing who your WR are, but if you usually slot in 3 RB's, I see no reason to change this week. And the one of those I would bench is definitely Mike Anderson. Cadillac is going up against a defense that has gotten run on pretty well by Atlanta and Minnesota, Gore looks like a start-every-week guy until he proves otherwise, and Maroney is getting decent touches. As for Anderson, yeah, he got a TD last week, but he got ONE carry.

Now, if Jamal Lewis is out for this week, and Anderson gets all the carries, he's obviously a good start. In which case I guess I'd bench Maroney (narrowly over Cadillac).

by Bill Barnwell :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 4:13pm

As I mentioned in email to someone, Miller's playing a Cincinnati defense that was awful against tight ends last year and is missing two starting linebackers.

by DavidH (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 4:13pm

First, don't start Wali Lundy. Second, Parker and Bell aren't that bad. Parker had a bad day against Jax last week, but Jax is freakin good. He ran all over Dallas, and this week he's facing a non-stellar Cincy D. Bell has done pretty well so far, just not scored. I'd expect about the same this week. My choice would be Parker, just because I can envision Denver getting shut down by NE easier than I can envision Pit getting shut down by Cincy.

by DavidH (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 4:15pm

Ah, I didn't realize they were missing the LB's. Thanks. Maybe I will go with Heath Bar.

by Podge (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 4:23pm

#52 - "but I could use some help at W/R now" ....erm...where does Randel El come into this?

#60 - wait til friday before making a move. After all, its only a kicker anyway, not like its a *real* position.

by Podge (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 4:24pm

Bah, double post, in the which tight end category, Heap v Cleveland or Ben Watson v Denver?

by Pat (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 4:31pm

I might go with McNabb in your case, though. SF has given up 4 TD and 0 INT so far, while Jax has given up 1 TD and has 5 INT.

The 0 INT bit is the most interesting - San Francisco's got a decent pass rush (9 sacks in 2 games), but the Giants have a much better one (sacking Peyton Manning is much harder than sacking Kurt Warner), and Philly completely handled them without a problem. The lack of interceptions tells you that San Francisco's secondary aren't exactly ballhawks.

I'd have to agree with going with McNabb. So far, Manning hasn't been that much better than McNabb, and if there's any week where McNabb's going to significantly outperform Manning, it's probably this week.

Nice problem to have, though.

by Pat (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 4:36pm

No option really looks appealing any advice?

I'm not sure I'd go with Frank Gore starting. Philly's run defense killed Tiki Barber, and killed Wali Lundy. If anyone's going to put up numbers against Philly, it's Alex Smith and Antonio Bryant.

To be honest, Parker and Tatum Bell might be a good shot in the hopes that one or both will break off a long run or two - which they're both known for. That might make up for a long day of short stuffed runs.

by Mitch Cumstein (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 4:50pm

RE: 53 -- Cadillac, and with that choice, I don't think its much of a choice. Avoid Chris Brown. "I’m also starting S.Jackson @ Arizona, so I’ve at least got that going for me." You forgot the "which is nice".

RE: 58 -- Cadillac and Bush, with an eye on Maroney in case Dillon's status changes and he is going to get more than 1/2 the touches.

RE: 59 -- Heap.

RE: 62 -- Cadillac, Gore and Maroney in all 3 spots, unless you have 3 great receivers. And the future is now in regard to trading either Manning or McNabb, cause you can't start both.

RE: 64 -- I fail to see the problem here. Parker is the no brainer here against Cincinnati, he will rebound with a good performance.

by Tarrant (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 4:52pm


My WRs are terrible. I've thought of using McNabb as trade bait to pick up another WR, but McNabb is doing so well this year so far I feel like I couldn't get something reasonable enough in return that the trade would be considered kosher.

Right now at WR I have Houshmanzadeh (injured, but keeping him for future), M. Muhammad, E. Kennison, and J. Walker. None are great options (or have been so far), with zero touchdowns so far this year. I was going to go with Muhammad and Walker just because Kennison has a bye and Housh may still be out.

TE isn't much better...I can go Troupe (TEN) against Miami, or McMichael (MIA)against Tennessee.

by DavidH (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 6:06pm

OK, I'm in a jam because of bye weeks. I've got 2 WR and 2 W/R flex spots to fill from these players:

Mike Furrey vs GB
Troy Williamson vs CHI
Earnest Wilford @ IND
Michael Jenkins @ NO
Rod Smith @ NE

Jerious Norwood @ NO
Samkon Gado vs WAS
LenDale White @ MIA

(We have large rosters)

On the waiver wire, there is Wali Lundy, Buckhalter, Chris Perry, Devery Henderson, etc

by cjfarls (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 6:50pm

re: 64 Definitely Parker v. Cincy

re:70 Heap... Denver's LB's are really good.

re:74 Actually, i don't think you're bad with Walker & M.M... be patient: its only 2 games... Walker will produce, and M.M. has some semblance of a QB this year.

by Rich Conley (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 7:08pm

I've got Rudi Johnson(vs Pitt), Frank Gore(vs Phi), Chester Taylor(vs Chi), W. Mgahee(Vs Miami) as RBs. Can start two. Which two?

I've got Reggie Wayne(Indy, vs Jax), A. Johnson (hou, vs Was), Laverneus Coles (NYJ, vs Buf), M. Muhammed(Chi, vs Min), and Joe Jurevicious(Cle, vs Bal) as WR, can start 3, who do I start.

by Cristian (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:02pm

would you guys deal Addai for Lamont Jordan? in a Points per reception league and we get to keep two players? (I kept Manning and Westbrook from last year).

by Yaguar (not verified) :: Thu, 09/21/2006 - 10:48pm

78: No. Think about what teams they play for. That is all there is to it.

by Cristian (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 12:30am

Yeah that was the thing that was going to hold me back. Manning makes everyone around him better. Jordan was ranked really high in this years football prospectus though, but the upside on Addai is just too much to pass up.

by Gil (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 10:48am

Dump Roddy White for Bernard Berrian?

by Gil (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 10:54am


How many teams in your league, six? Your team is stacked.

RB Johnson, Gore

WR Wayne, Johnson, Coles... keeping an eye on Coles status as he is listed as questionable, I think.

by Cheezer (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 11:03am

Okay, TE question:

Cooley vs. Hou.
Des Clark vs. Minn.

Clark has better production, but Cooley has the better matchup.

Just how bad is Houston?


by bartleby (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 11:24am

pick two from the following this weekend:

gore, cadillac, addai, l. white

by Dash (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 11:48am

#84 - Gore and Cadillac
#78 - I agree with #82

I need two WR's out of: C. Johnson, Wayne, A. Bryant, Coles, Branch, and M. Colston. Suggestions?

Also, am I crazy for thinking about starting M. Colston at TE over Shockey this week (Colston has TE eligibility in my league)?

by Crushinator (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 12:11pm

My QB situation is weak, and I was hoping to get peoples opinions. I dropped two deadweight receivers to add Alex Smith and David Carr from wires. I also have Culpepper.

David Carr has been averaging 20 points a game, twice as much as Culpepper. but Culpepper is playing the abysmal Titans. Meanwhile, Carr is playing the Redskins, which haven't had an electric defense. Also, Alex Smith is playing the Eagles and represents an upgrade over Culpepper's past numbers.

Which of the three should I start?

by Andrew (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 1:18pm


Gore and Addai.

There's something wrong with Caddilac. LenDale is warming the pine.


I don't think Houston is that bad. However, Washington certainly doesn't look very good. Go with Clark.


Pittsburgh hasn't allowed a 100 yd. rusher in eons. Why is it going to start now with Rudi? I'd start McGahee instead. The Jets couldn't stop Dillon and Maroney, nor did they stop Chris Brown. McGahee is going over 100, and if the Bills are going to score, its going to be on his feet.

by Dave (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 1:50pm

No one biting on a trade yet, so I have to pick between Hasselbeck/Vick/Grossman for QB this week. Thoughts on Hasselbeck returning to form against the Giants?

by Bill Barnwell :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 1:54pm


Start Hasselbeck AT ALL COSTS.

We even now Pat? :)

Seriously, I'd go with the Hass.

by Rich Conley (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 2:42pm


Naw, its a 10 team league. I'm just crafty. I drafted gore and taylor late, nobody else knew they were going to be started.

I'm actually 0-2 at this point. The first week, my bench scored more than my starters(gore,etc). The second week, I put up the second most points in the league..unfortunately my opponent had the Eli experience, along with the Brian Westbrook experience, and I still had faith in Chris Cooley

by Rich Conley (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 2:47pm

re 87

CHris brown had 16 carries for 64 yards. THats not awful, but its not good either. Total their offence had 25 carries for 86 yards. THat, is awful.

by Pat (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 2:56pm


I would've loved to see time-lapse pictures of Bill's face during the Giants game. Happy, to sad, to utterly depressed, to hopeful, to happy, with a bit of worried overtones.

Twitch much during the first half, Bill? :)

by NoJo (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 3:04pm

Ooh, somebody mentioned Cooley. Should I give up on him? What's the deal with him? I picked up Winslow off of the WW, so I could use him instead.

by NoJo (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 6:48pm

re:85: C. Johnson and Wayne are no-brainers no matter who they're playing.

by Cristian (not verified) :: Fri, 09/22/2006 - 8:19pm

#86 As long as Shawn Springs is out for the Redskins, there DB-field doesn't appear that strong. I'd lean toward Carr.

by Andrew (not verified) :: Sat, 09/23/2006 - 1:52am

Ooh, somebody mentioned Cooley. Should I give up on him? What’s the deal with him?

Cooley is a victim of the Kubiak Kurse. Last year's victim was Kevin Jones. This year's will be Chris Cooley.

by Ian (not verified) :: Sat, 09/23/2006 - 9:53am

Hey guys. Should I start Hasselbeck or Manning this week?

by Bill Barnwell :: Sat, 09/23/2006 - 10:52am

The Hass.

by Tyler (not verified) :: Sat, 09/23/2006 - 12:19pm

I'm in a league with standard scoring and I have to choose 2 between Alexander (vs NYG), Gore (vs PHI) and McGahee (vs NYJ). Also, is this the week Cooley (vs HOU)finally does something, or should I bench him for Desmond Clark (vs MIN)?

by DavidH (not verified) :: Sat, 09/23/2006 - 1:37pm

I've got Eddie Kennison sitting on my bench this week with a bye. His production has been terrible so far. Should I drop him and pick up a free agent? My choices are Mike Furrey, Greg Jennings, Dennis Northcutt, Devery Henderson, Chris Henry, and Devery Henderson.

by DavidH (not verified) :: Sat, 09/23/2006 - 1:59pm

86 - Carr's slightly ahead of Pep in my book.

98 - I'd go Clark over Cooley until Washington shows a desire to throw to him. I have no idea what to do with your RB situation.

85 - I know Johnson and Wayne are start-every-week players, but I'm leaning towards Bryant over Wayne because of the matchup. Wayne's games vs JAX the last 2 years (catches/yards/TD):

Meanwhile the Eagles have allowed some nice numbers to top receivers:
Toomer 12/137/2
Burress 6/114/1
A Johnson 6/101/0
Moulds 6/68/1

Of course, maybe SF's lack of a 2nd good wideout will let Philly double Bryant and reduce his effectiveness. Who knows?

by scottnot (not verified) :: Sat, 09/23/2006 - 3:30pm

I do believe I am the last one on the Kevin Jones bandwagon and the address is 21-61 Millen lane. 100+ this week guaranteed, w/no fumbles. Those that have him, play him, those that can pick him up cheap , do so. This is like buying Frank Thomas in late May. Sorry to change sports but that was the best analogy I could come up with. They do have two or three off. linemen out this week so I am going out on a limb.
If nothing else I am defending K.J. from the person who wrote he was a softie who ran out of bounds every chance he got, wrong!

by cjfarls (not verified) :: Sat, 09/23/2006 - 6:21pm

Re: 101

If you read Aaron's rundown from last week, he points out that the 'skins are throwing to Cooley, they just aren't connecting.... I'm still holding out hope this week (if he can't get it done vs HOU, he won't).

As I mentioned in my earlier post... its only been 2 games. Be patient. The way I often win my leagues is picking up the studs others in my league grow impatient with (C. Chambers, J.Plummer last year), etc.

Remember, Plummer was as bad last year after 2 games as this he is year, and he ended up with 27 TDs.

by Towwb (not verified) :: Sat, 09/23/2006 - 7:24pm

I've got to start two of Alexander, Gore, and Cadillac. Any thoughts?

by Cristian (not verified) :: Sat, 09/23/2006 - 9:10pm

#103 I was about to post the same thing, if you go check it out at FFtoday.com, you'll see that they have targeted him the most of any reciever/TE. I watched thier first game and didn't exactly see that many targets,,,Brunnel has not been that good yet.

I've got him and am going to ride him a little longer. I'd be really scared if they stop throwing to him though.

by joedgery (not verified) :: Sat, 09/23/2006 - 10:11pm

Should I start Cotchery, Muhammad or Rod Smith as my third receiver this week? My first two are Chad Johnson and Darrell Jackson.

And I have both Heath Miller and Chris Cooley at TE. Is this the week to bench Cooley?

by Neo (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 11:02am

L.J. Smith @ SF or Jeremy Shockey @ SEA

by cjfarls (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 1:00pm

Okay, last minute fanstasy question... Mike Bell vs NE, or Rudi Johnson... normally I would never sit Rudi, but in this league we also get points for return yards and Bell has been returning kicks... and I just have a bad feeling that Pitt is going to stack it up vs. Cincy with CJ out.

by cjfarls (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 1:02pm

I suppose CJ's dinged, not out...

by cjfarls (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 1:06pm

Re: 107 I'd go shockey, but its really a coin-flip.

Re: 106 If R.Smith was totally healthy, I'd say him, but since he's dinged up, I'd go M.M.

by cjfarls (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 1:16pm

Re: 107... just saw Shockey still has the bum ankle... go with Smith.

by Richard (not verified) :: Thu, 09/28/2006 - 2:44am

Would you guys trade Marques Colston for Shaun Alexander?

In case it helps your suggestion-making, here's some relevant info:

My other wide receivers are Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Reggie Brown, Antonio Bryant and Terrell Owens. My other tight end is Kellen Winslow. My other runningbacks are Ronnie Brown, Rudi Johnson, Kevin Jones nad Maurice Jones-Drew. It's only an 8 team league and the guy I'd be trading with is not a threat.

by Kulko (not verified) :: Thu, 09/28/2006 - 3:34am

Just when I need some advice the column gets lost. :-) Yahoo has some rather strange projections this week, so who would you start:

Hasselbeck vs chi or Losman vs Min

DEF (with differential scoring):
San Diego vs BAL or Eagles vs GB

by Josh (not verified) :: Thu, 09/28/2006 - 12:58pm

Where's this week's column?
Who should I start at one RB/WR and one WR spot: Lamont Jordan, DeShaun Forster, Maurice Morris, Ron Dayne, Jerricho Cotchery or Maques Colston?
I'm planning to go with Jordan and Cotchery this week, anyone strongly disagree?