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06 Jan 2011

Scramble for the Ball: The Second Season

by Tom Gower and Mike Kurtz

FO Staff Playoffs Draft

Everyone's favorite Football Outsiders Staff Playoffs Fantasy League has returned! The scoring rules are the same as every year:

  • Six points for rushing or receiving touchdowns, four points for passing touchdowns
  • One point for every 10 yards rushing or receiving, 20 yards passing
  • Negative two points for lost fumbles or interceptions
  • Two points for two-point conversion of any kind
  • Kickers: Three points for field goals of 1-39 yards, four points for 40-49 yards, six points for 50-plus yards, and one point for every extra point
  • Defense: Two points for interceptions or fumble recoveries, six points for touchdowns, four points for safeties, one point for sacks, and then negative one point for every seven points allowed (and a bonus five points for a shutout)

Teams are comprised of one QB, two RBs, three WRs, one TE, one K and one DEF. There are no substitutions, so if a player is injured or his team is eliminated, then he ceases to produce points for his team. The teams, in drafting order are as follows:

  • Your Scramble Writer Mike Kurtz
  • Your Scramble Writer Tom Gower
  • Your Assistant Editor Dave Gardner
  • Staff Writer and Actual Jets Fan Sean McCormick
  • Staffer Emeritus and Fellow Attorney Tim Gerheim
  • Former Actual Football Player Ben Muth

This is a serpentine draft, as is the fashion of the day, with a two-pick round eight.

Round 1
1.Mike: Ray Rice, RB, Baltimore Ravens
2. Tom: Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots
3. Dave: Michael Turner, RB, Atlanta Falcons
4. Sean: Jamaal Charles, RB, Kansas City Chiefs
5. Tim: Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Pittsburgh Steelers
6. Ben: Drew Brees, QB, New Orleans Saints

Round 2
7. Ben: BenJarvus Green-Ellis, RB, New England Patriots
8. Tim: Peyton Manning, QB, Indianapolis Colts
9. Sean: Aaron Rodgers, QB, Green Bay Packers
10. Dave: Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Pittsburgh Steelers
11. Tom: Matt Forte, RB, Chicago Bears
12. Mike: Marques Colston, WR, New Orleans Saints

Round 3
13. Mike: LeSean McCoy, RB, Philadelphia Eagles
14. Tom: Roddy White, WR, Atlanta Falcons
15. Dave: Greg Jennings, WR, Green Bay Packers
16. Sean: Reggie Wayne, WR, Indianapolis Colts
17. Tim: Mike Wallace, WR, Pittsburgh Steelers
18. Ben: Dwayne Bowe, WR, Kansas City Chiefs

Round 4
19. Ben: Pierre Garcon, WR, Indianapolis Colts
20. Tim: DeSean Jackson, WR, Philadelphia Eagles
21. Sean: Shonn Greene, RB, New York Jets
22. Dave: Wes Welker, WR, New England Patriots
23. Tom: Pierre Thomas, RB, New Orleans Saints
24. Mike: Anquan Boldin, WR, Baltimore Ravens

Round 5
25. Mike: Johnny Knox, WR, Chicago Bears
26. Tom: Deion Branch, WR, New England Patriots
27. Dave: Joseph Addai, RB, Indianapolis Colts
28. Sean: Santonio Holmes, WR, New York Jets
29. Tim: Reggie Bush, RB, New Orleans Saints
30. Ben: LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, New York Jets

Round 6
31. Ben: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Philadelphia Eagles
32. Tim: Brent Celek, TE, Philadelphia Eagles
33. Sean: Braylon Edwards, WR, New York Jets
34. Dave: Hines Ward, WR, Pittsburgh Steelers
35. Tom: Rob Gronkowski, TE, New England Patriots
36. Mike: Heath Miller, TE, Pittsburgh Steelers

Round 7
37. Mike: Matt Bryant, K, Atlanta Falcons
38. Tom: Brandon Tate, WR, New England Patriots
39. Dave: Jacob Tamme, TE, Indianapolis Colts
40. Sean: Baltimore Ravens Defense
41. Tim: Pittsburgh Steelers Defense
42. Ben: Tony Gonzalez, TE, Atlanta Falcons

Round 8
43. Ben: New Orleans Saints Defense
44. Ben: Garrett Hartley, K, New Orleans Saints
45. Tim: David Akers, K, Philadelphia Eagles
46. Tim: Blair White, WR, Indianapolis Colts
47. Sean: Dustin Keller, TE, New York Jets
48. Sean: Mason Crobsy, K, Green Bay Packers
49. Dave: Adam Vinatieri, K, Indianapolis Colts
50. Dave: Atlanta Falcons Defense
51. Tom: Shayne Graham, K, New England Patriots
52. Tom: New England Patriots Defense
53. Mike: Chicago Bears Defense
54. Mike: Matt Ryan, QB, Atlanta Falcons

As a recap, here are the rosters:

FO Playoff Fantasy Rosters
Pos. Mike Tom Dave Sean Tim Ben
QB Matt Ryan Tom Brady Ben Roethlisberger Aaron Rodgers Peyton Manning Drew Brees
RB Ray Rice Matt Forte Michael Turner Jamaal Charles Rashard Mendenhall BenJarvus Green-Ellis
RB LeSean McCoy Pierre Thomas Joseph Addai Shonn Greene Reggie Bush Ladainian Tomlinson
WR Marques Colston Roddy White Greg Jennings Reggie Wayne Mike Wallace Dwayne Bowe
WR Anquan Boldin Deion Branch Wes Welker Santonio Holmes DeSean Jackson Pierre Garcon
WR Johnny Knox Brandon Tate Hines Ward Braylon Edwards Blair White Jeremy Maclin
TE Heath Miller Rob Gronkowski Jacob Tamme Dustin Keller Brent Celek Tony Gonzalez
K Matt Bryant Shayne Graham Adam Vinatieri Mason Crosby David Akers Garrett Hartley
D Bears Patriots Falcons Ravens Steelers Saints

The Methods Behind the Madnesses

Ben Muth

Going into the draft, I really wanted one of the big three quarterbacks and a running back I thought would play in multiple games. I ended up with Brees and the law firm (should that be capitalized?), which accomplished both goals in my first two picks. From there I wanted receivers who could score touchdowns. I figure in such a small sample size, touchdowns will be king. Also, by picking Dwayne Bowe, I've had him in every one of my five fantasy drafts these past two years. I don't like my LT pick because I think he's only playing one game, and he hasn't looked good lately, but running back was thin. Obviously, my last two picks mean I think the Saints are going deep. And finally, I picked Gonzalez because I need a scapegoat if I don't win. A Kal guy always makes a good scapegoat.

Mike: I'm really iffy on his RBs.

Tom: Well, he did draft sixth. We can talk about this more when we get to my team, but I'm skeptical of all RBs this year. That said, I think really little of Tomlinson as RB2. He's had a down second half of the year, and the Jets are way too likely to lose in the first round.

Mike: Yeah. I think Bowe is another risky pick.

Tom: Strongly agreed.

Mike: Bowe is a great player and a fantasy stud, but KC's chances of making it past the wild-card round are probably pretty slim.

Tom: I'm not sold he's great, but that's not particularly here nor there. The Chiefs, I think, are even more likely than the Jets to lose in the first round. His quarterback is also Matt Cassel. Matt Cassel has had a fine year, but you'll see Matt Cassel's name elsewhere in this column in a place you don't want to see it.

Mike: Foreshadowing!

Tim Gerheim

I found this draft incredibly difficult. In the past when I've participated in these leagues, I've made the mistake of being seduced by the teams playing on wild card weekend and the possibility of their playing four games. I wanted to avoid that this year, which is why I took Mendenhall in the first round and went heavy on Steelers. I don't think Pittsburgh will be one-and-done. Unfortunately, I can't say that so confidently about the Falcons or the Bears, and I was always a step behind the Patriots bandwagon, so I wound up with a smorgasbord of good fantasy players on teams that I think have a chance to keep winning. Peyton Manning led me down the primrose path, though: If they beat the Jets, the Colts will play the Steelers, and I lose either way. I'd have been better off with Matt Ryan, or waiting until the end to take a QB and taking someone like Forte or even Roddy White there. (Basically I'd like Tom's draft. Maybe the official scorer will get our names mixed up like it's an Audibles column.)

Mike: Tim must've read the final 2010 DVOA column!

Tom: I was a little surprised Wallace was one of the first wideouts somebody took.

Mike: I probably should've gone with him, honestly. I have regrets about my first WR choice, but we'll get to that. I'm worried about Bush. I like New Orleans's chances, but Bush just seems like dead weight.

Tom: Well, with Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas going on Injured Reserve this week, the Saints have to give the ball to somebody on handoffs.

Mike: I suppose that is true

Tom: I do like Tim's team.

Mike: Bush has never demonstrated that he could put up big numbers outside of his battery, though. That said, I also like Tim's team.

Tom: The one question I have is: Which teams does he want to win? I guess the Steelers and the Colts are his best bets.

Mike: Clearly. The Eagles, also, with Jackson, Celek, and Akers.

Tom: Yes. The Eagles and Packers both scared me too much to draft any of them. If I went there, I'd go all-in on one team and hope for the best, like Sean did last year. And hope you pick the winner, unlike Sean.

Mike: If only it were that simple.

Tom: Well, going all-in on Saints and Colts was my winning strategy last year.

Sean McCormick

Go, sixth-seeds! This feels like a weird playoff year in that there just aren't that many skill position players who I really felt comfortable with. The only position where I felt like there would be depth was at quarterback, where I would have been happy with any from the group of Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, or Manning once Brady was off the board. I took Charles because he was clearly the best running back on the board, and while I don't like the matchups all that much, he was the player with the most home run potential. Greene has been establishing himself as the head of the Jets rotation as of late, and he ripped up Indy last year. I know it looks like my Jets fandom got me later on, but in each case, I thought Holmes, Edwards and Keller represented the players who had the best shot of having standout performances, particularly against a slate of iffy Indianapolis/New England defenses. My team will go belly up if the Colts win, but as I said, I felt like the potential out of the Jets skill position players was simply higher than for the equivalent guys from Chicago or Baltimore or Altanta or what have you.

Mike: I guess it would be too inconsistent to complain about Greene after also complaining about Tomlinson.

Tom: I don't think so. They'll split carries, which decreases both guys' value.

Mike: True. I think the rest of his team is pretty solid, although for reasons stated above, I'm skeptical of Charles. Then again, the chance for a homerun is better than most, and one huge losing game might just get enough value.

Tom: Well, half his team is guaranteed to be gone after a game. Charles OR Ravens defense. Wayne OR the Jets quartet of Holmes/Edwards/Keller.

Mike: Yeah.

Tom: I feel like his Jets fandom got him in his later picks.

Mike: It happens to the best of us.

Dave Gardner

I have a huge grudge from last year, when I finished in a very distant second to Tom. Actually, not really -- I only vaguely remembered playing. But I went with a similar strategy as I did last time. Essentially, I looked for players who I believed I could get two productive games out of, so I focused on teams like the Colts, Falcons, and Steelers.

Mike: Dave's team is going to lose a lot of points due to the bye, I think. Over half his team won't see action the opening week.

Tom: Like your team last year, I think Dave has a very good, well-balanced team that virtually guarantees he will finish third or fourth.

Mike: Hooray.

Tom: I mean, I'd like his team in a real fantasy league, where we go head to head every week, but not in this format.

Mike: The problem really is that, on one hand you have to guess which teams are going to win, which leans heavily toward the teams with byes (who are ostensibly better). On the other hand, a team that gets to the championship game in two games instead of one will have players with larger cumulative totals. There's no sure-fire way to do it.

Tom Gower

Mike: Brady was a great pickup.

Tom: Aside from the Patriots, I had no confidence in any team other than the Saints to win a game. So, after you took Ray Rice with the first pick, I didn't love any of the other running backs. One of the keys last year was to get one of the high-scoring quarterbacks. If you didn't have one of them, you didn't have a chance. I'm not a Patriots fan, but Brady was by far my favorite QB in the draft.

Mike: He's coming off an historic season.

Tom: Last year's draft went all RB in the first round and all QB in the second, and I didn't want the fifth pick at QB.

Mike: The other great QB in the league is on a struggling team that's kind of in disarray. Brady is clearly a great play. By that token, I really didn't want to start off with a QB, even Brady, especially since Brady has a bye.

Tom: I was hoping for Green-Ellis at RB, but Ben took him. I was also hoping for Welker, but Dave grabbed him one pick before me. Also, curse you, Sean Payton, curse you.

Mike: I'd be happy not to be tempted by Green-Ellis. The likely matchup for New England in the divisional round is Baltimore. That is not promising for the running game.

Tom: Oh, I'm reasonably happy with Forte. I am NOT happy with Pierre Thomas going on IR, but such is life.

Mike: Indeed.

Tom: If I weren't pseudo-commissioner, I'd ask for a roster exemption at the end of the draft for players placed on IR before the first round of games. But, really, it's no different than those fantasy drafts in early August and taking a player like Sidney Rice only to get unlucky.

Mike: As regular readers of this column (all five of them) know, our main platform is that fantasy is a fickle and capricious beast.

Mike Kurtz

Mike: At quarterback, I debated Michael Vick versus vs. Ryan.

Tom: Not Sanchize!

Mike: ... No. I ended up choosing Ryan because I'm too worried that Vick will fade, even though the Falcons' most likely second-round opponent will be Green Bay.

Tom: Either way I'd like to congratulate you for waiting until pick 54 to take your quarterback.

Mike: I figured I might as well.

Tom: Oh, absolutely. The second round last year was all quarterbacks. The guy who drafted first and 12th last year cost himself a better wideout or second running back by taking the last quarterback.

Mike: Of course, I may have blown it.

Tom: How so?

Mike: There's a good chance that Colston won't be ready for the wild-card game.

Tom: We're all so confident in the Seahawks' chances you Best of the Rest commenters can have your pick of whatever Seattleites you want.

Mike: That's kind of sad, really.

Tom: Sort of like the Seahawks themselves! ba-dum-cha

Mike: Yes. That.

Tom: Like they say about the lottery, "You can't win if you don't play." And, unfortunately, the Seahawks may have been better off playing Mega Millions.

Mike: Yeah.

Tom: Not that anybody should ever play Mega Millions as a logical move.

Mike: I actually was talking with my wife about this year's playoff fantasy challenge, and our thought was that the commenters have it stacked against them since there are clearly excellent teams and clearly bad (by playoff standards) teams, so they're left building a team of Seahawks, for instance.

Tom: Our most successful Best of the Rest teams last year were made mostly of Jets players, as I recall.

Mike: True.

Tom: This year, the Seahawks are the only similar alternative.

Mike: I don't remember being nearly so down on Seattle as I was on the Jets last year, however. I could be wrong.

Tom: Even the worse teams we don't think will win, like the Chiefs or the Jets, have had their standout fantasy choices taken.

Mike: Yeah.

Tom: Your best bet may be for a player we didn't think of, for whatever reason. Nobody, either Staff or Best of the Rest, picked Shonn Greene last year. Who will be this year's Greene? Julius Jones?

Mike: We'll have to wait and see!

Tom: And so we shall.

Remember to assemble your own "best of what's left" teams in the comments! We'll keep track of them! Or find someone responsible to do so. We promise!

He Needs a Third Set of Hands to Hold His Dignity

Mike: Look how creepy the second guy's eyes are. He's all wide-eyed and barely blinks. He takes the inherent creepiness of the situation and takes it all the way to 11. And he kind of leers.

Tom: Have you ever noticed that on IMDb, This Is Spinal Tap's rating is out of 11?

Mike: I have not, but that is awesome. Although it is somewhat muted by the fact that it only has an 8/11.

Tom: Yeah, well, it's iconic but not that good.

Mike: Hey, now, Spinal Tap was brilliant.

Tom: Moving along, though, the eyes weren't really what struck me. The basic thing: The "main guy" has both the chicken sandwiches in both his hands. If I had helping hands, they'd be helping me by holding at least one of the chicken sandwiches.

Mike: I dunno, I can't imagine a guy standing behind you would be able to effectively deliver sandwich-based nutrition to your mouth, at least not without making a huge mess. Dancing seems a bit more plausible.

Tom: Yes, but this guy isn't even eating his chicken sandwiches. He's just holding them in his hands. And the other thing is, I don't know what your fast food experience is like, but mine has been that it tends to taste much better warm. Unless Burger King has really changed their decor, the guy is not in a BK and has probably not just stepped out of one. His chicken sandwich is getting cool and less desirable. Why do you buy extras, just to carry them around?

Mike: Because it's buy one get one free! What, you think he would forego something he didn't need despite the OBVIOUS SALE?

Tom: So you buy two, and you eat two. You don't buy them for posterity.

Mike: He could be assuming that she does not know they are on sale, and is therefore using the sandwiches as a way to show off his largesse.

Tom: It's fast food. It's not like it's hugely expensive.

Mike: Yes but ... TWO. He has money to throw around on extraneous sandwiches!

Tom: If I wanted to show off, I'd use tins of caviar or something like that.

Mike: Phfft, that would make him snooty.

Tom: No, snooty would be Grey Poupon.

Mike: Well, then creepy guy would be his driver, and the logistics would be way off.

Tom: And this commercial embraces the weirdness. That's what gets me. "Oh, it can get a lot weirder."

Mike: True, not like it's Japanese. I will say, I'm surprised to see a buy one get one free for an actual sandwich. It seems like they'd have no margin at all.

Tom: I don't know fast food economics. Beyond soda, I don't know where they make their money. But I'm pretty sure it's not from targeting creepiness.

Mike: I dunno, have you been to a McDonald's lately?


KEEP CHOPPING WOOD: The St. Louis Rams have a deeply limited receiving corps, one not particularly suited to exploited a team's deep coverage weaknesses. Their only particularly fast receiver is Danario Alexander, and, well, as we saw on Sunday night, he's not very good at actually catching the football.

MIKE MARTZ AWARD: Seahawks coach Pete Carroll to official: "I don't want to call timeout." Official: "Timeout, Seahawks." Pete Carroll: "I said I didn't want to call timeout!" Scramble writers: "Then why did you even say 'timeout'? Just keep your mouth shut, and you won't have this problem in the first place."

COLBERT AWARD: How much, exactly, do fans like NFL football? NBC decided to test that by showing a 6-9 team against a 7-8 team in prime time. Not just any 6-9 and 7-8 team, but teams that couldn't even finish over .500 in the dreadful NFC West. But, hey, we're NFL fans, and we watch games, especially if they're played for stakes, and the Peacock Network realized it. At least they didn't give us more Favre.

Loser League Update

Kicker: If I were Dan Carpenter, and you were the Dolphins, would you bring me back anyway? Joining Mr. Carpenter at -1 was Loser League-ineligible but repeat loser Clint Stitser.

Kicker, Weeks 10-17: Dan Carpenter may have had one of the worst Loser League scores ever with -6 in Week 15 and also had low honors this week, but he made enough kicks in other weeks. Graham Gano's consistent mediocrity beats him out for low man honors.

Wide Receiver: Anquan Boldin, Danny Amendola, and Golden Tate have all been valuable for their teams at various times this season. Those times did not include Week 17, in which they combined for 0 points, with a high of 0.

Wide Receiver, Weeks 10-17: Laurent Robinson was once a promising wide receiver prospect. That was before he put up a hugely impressive 29 points over the final eight weeks of the 2010 season. His high total was eight, and four times he put up two points or fewer. Just as impressively, Steve Smith, Esquire put up only 35 points, including a 15-point penalty for Week 15, though I would say that probably has a great deal to do with somebody else appearing on this list.

Running Back: Attention Todd Haley: Thomas Jones had 1 point this week. Nobody else was as ineffective IN THE ENTIRE NFL. Ahmad Bradshaw had 2 points.

Running Back, Weeks 10-17: Have you wondered where the Jets' two-headed rushing attack went? Well, they're at the top of the second half Loser League standings. Yes, even though Joe McKnight got the carries in Week 17 and both took the penalty, Shonn Greene and LaDainian Tomlinson were low men up.

Quarterback: Oh, Brian Brohm, your -3 points would have been a great Loser League score if only you were eligible. Instead, Matt Cassel's and Chad Henne's 1 point each were the low scores.

Quarterback, Weeks 10-17: I can't tell you quite how many times I've seen this video, but I can guarantee you it was more time than the Carolina Panthers did before the 2010 draft. There were 13 quarterbacks with between 99 and 113 points. Then there was Chad Henne, with 88 points. And then there was man who launched 1,000 videos with "Yakety Sax," Jimmy Clausen.

Loser League Champ

Congratulations to Rich Gazon and his Flying Eagles, who made like the Air Force mascot and flew away from the end zone to walk away the second-half Loser League Champion! And even bigger congratulations to Bradley Momberger of Marlborough, MA, who captured the full-season trophy for highest score in both halves of the contest. Gazon will get a copy of KUBIAK 2011, while Momberger will get a copy of both KUBIAK 2011 and FOA 2011, and meanwhile this sentence will simply pretend there is no labor problem whatsoever.

Posted by: Mike Kurtz on 06 Jan 2011

46 comments, Last at 09 Jan 2011, 12:09am by Sid


by Kevin from Philly :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 3:46pm

Loser League "Updage"?

by Kevin from Philly :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 3:12pm


by GBPKS1 (not verified) :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 3:48pm

Best of the Rest Team

QB: M. Vick
RB: Danny Woodhead
RB: Julius Jones
WR: Derrick Mason
WR: James Jones
WR: Lance Moore
TE: Aaron Hernandez
D: Packers
K: Robbie Gould

by roguerouge :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 3:51pm

My team of leftovers:

QB: Flacco
RB: McGahee
RB: Jackson (GB)
WR: Mason
WR: Moore
WR: Meacham
TE: Heap
K: Cundiff
D: Green Bay

by Adam B. :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 4:02pm

Q: Vick
R: Woodhead, Lynch
W: Jenkins, Sanders, Avant
T: Olsen
K: Gould
DST: Eagles

by Jovins :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 4:17pm

So Pierre Thomas is on IR for the year. That probably wasn't a good pick.

by superbears :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 4:17pm

This year I will beat everyone not just the comments

QB: Vick
RB: Snelling
RB: Woodhead
WR: Moore
WR: Garcon
WR: Driver
TE: Olsen
K: Suisham
D: Colts

by batbatt :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 4:21pm

My team:

QB: Flacco
RB: Woodhead
RB: Brandon Jackson
WR: James Jones
WR: Jordy Nelson
WR: Donald Driver
TE: Quarless
K: Cundiff

I tried, but I just couldn't get myself to put any seattle players on my team...

by djanyreason :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 4:56pm

QB M Vick - PHI
RB W McGahee - BAL
RB D Woodhead - NE
WR D Mason - BAL
WR L Moore - NO
WR R Meachem - NO
TE J Graham - NO
K B Cundiff - BAL
D Eagles

by Stats are for losers (not verified) :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 4:57pm

QB: Vick
RB: Woodhead
RB: McGahee
WR: Avant
WR: Mason
WR: Meachem
TE: Heap
K: Cundiff
DEF: Colts

by abernethyj :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 5:18pm

QB: Vick, PHI
RB: Woodhead, NE
RB: Kuhn, GB
WR: Moore, NO
WR: Meachem, NO
WR: Mason, BAL
TE: Hernandez, NE
K: Suisham, PIT
DEF: Eagles

by Brendan Scolari :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 5:24pm

QB: Vick
RB: Woodhead
RB: Thomas Jones
WR: Jason Avant
WR: Robert Meachem
WR: Pierre Garcon
TE: Jimmy Graham
K: Akers
DEF: Eagles

by MilkmanDanimal :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 5:25pm

54 players taken, zero Seahawks.

I wonder why?

by Stats are for losers (not verified) :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 5:27pm

Because even if it were Playoff Loser League, they'd be taking the penalty after the first round.

by kbukie :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 6:12pm

Are the Seahawks that much more likely to lose than the Chiefs, though? If anything, Seattle will have more of a home field advantage than KC, and the difference between them and their opponent is nearly the same.

by BigCheese :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 1:47am

I'm sorry but no. While New Orleans and Baltimore can probably be said to be at about the same level, Kansas City is clearly vastly superior to Seattle. So the difference between them and their opponents is not even remotely the same.

Also, even if, for argument sake it was, Chaarles, Bowe and Cassel were among the top scorers at their positions in FF this year, so the risk of them playing only one game is offset by the possibility they have a monster game, even in a loss.

Meanwhile Seattle's far and away most valuable FF player was Mike Williams, a middle of the pack WR. So the risk is there, but the reward isn't.

- Alvaro

by Stats are for losers (not verified) :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 10:24am

Also, Arrowhead is a notoriously noisy place to play, so Seattle's home-field advantage advantage is negligible.

by turbohappy (not verified) :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 5:48pm

QB: Joe Flacco
RB: Dominic Rhodes
RB: Marshawn Lynch
WR: Jordy Nelson
WR: Derrick Mason
WR: Mike Williams
TE: Todd Heap
K: Billy Cundiff
DEF: Indy

by turbohappy (not verified) :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 5:48pm

BTW, Garcon was selected (saw him in several lists).

by kbukie :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 6:03pm

QB: Cutler, CHI
RB: Woodhead, NE
RB: Lynch, SEA
WR: Driver, GB
WR: Mason, BAL
WR: Hester, CHI
TE: Hernandez, NE
D: Packers
K: Cundiff, BAL

EDIT: Changed Heap to Hernandez to avoid putting too many eggs into one basket. :P

by Anonymous1 (not verified) :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 6:40pm

Tomlinson over Woodhead?

{scratches head}

by kbukie :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 6:52pm

Well, if he'd taken Woodhead, then he would have had both NE RBs.

by Anonymous1 (not verified) :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 8:11pm

Good point. I missed that. I'd still find someone other than The Danian, though.

by Yuri (not verified) :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 7:01pm

QB: Vick PHI
RB: Jones KC
RB: Woodhead NE
WR: Avant PHI
WR: Mike Williams SEA
WR: Mason BAL
TE: Olsen CHI
K: Cundiff BAL
D: Colts

by DRohan :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 7:01pm

QB: Flacco BAL
RB: Woodhead NE, Kuhn GB
WR: Nelson GB, Sanders PIT, Moore NO
TE: Graham NO
K: Suisham PIT
D: Packers

by andrew :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 8:52pm

Okay, call me crazy:

QB: Matt Cassell (KC)
RB: Snelling (Atl)
WR: Mike Williams (Sea)
WR: James Jones (GB)
WR: Devin Hester (Chi)
TE: Olson (Chi)
D: Colts
K: Gould (Chi)

by BigCheese :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 2:05am

You're crazy!

Also, you forgot a RB....

(Oh, and it's OlsEn)

- Alvaro

by Matthew Bultitude (not verified) :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 7:45pm

QB: Michael Vick
RB: Brandon Jackson
RB: Danny Woodhead
WR: Derrick Mason
WR: James Jones
WR: Lance Moore
TE: Aaron Hernandez
K: Billy Cundiff
D: Indianapolis Colts

by JIPanick :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 9:21pm

QB Jay Cutler
RB Thomas Jones
RB Marshawn Lynch
WR Donald Driver
WR Mike Willams
WR Michael Jenkins
TE Tony Moeaki
K Ryan Succop
D Kansas City Chiefs

by Mr Shush :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 9:41pm

QB: Joe Flacco
RB: Danny Woodhead
RB: John Kuhn
WR: James Jones
WR: Donald Driver
WR: Derek Mason
TE: Aaron Hernandez
K: Billy Cundiff
DEF: Packers

by the K :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 10:25pm

QB Mike Vick
RB Danny Woodhead
RB Dominic Rhodes
WR Mike Williams (SEA)
WR Donald Driver
WR Devin Hester
TE Greg Olsen
K Shaun Suisham
DT Eagles

I actually feel pretty good about this.

by zlionsfan :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 10:38pm

mmm, leftovers

QB: Jay Cutler, Chi
RB: Jason Snelling, Atl
RB: Danny Woodhead, NE
WR: James Jones, GB
WR: Robert Meachem, NO
WR: Lance Moore, NO
TE: Aaron Hernandez, NE
K: Robbie Gould, Chi
Def: NY Jets

what do I know about playoffs anyway?

by mjb :: Thu, 01/06/2011 - 11:21pm

What Remains of the Draft?

QB: Mike Vick, Phi.
RBs: Danny Woodhead, N.E. & Javarris James, Ind.
WRs: Derrick Mason, Bal. & Michael Jenkins, Atl. & James Jones, G.B.
TE: Greg Olsen, Chi.
K: Billy Cundiff, Bal.
D: Colts, Ind.

by idembsky :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 12:17am

Hey, someone has to do it. Go Seattle!

QB: Hasselbeck
RB: Lynch
RB: Woodhead
WR: Mike Williams
WR: E. Sanders
WR: J. Edelman
TE: G. Olsen
K: O. Mare
DT: Seahawks

by RickD :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 1:58am

QB: M Vick, PHI
RB: D Woodhead, NE
RB: J James, IND
WR: L Moore, NO
WR: D. Driver, GB
WR: D. Mason, BAL
TE: A. Hernandez, NE
K: S. Suisham, PIT
D: Packers

by BigCheese :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 2:02am

This is an easy one. I truly believe my Bears will play at least two games, so let's go with the "pick a team and hope they make it to the SB" strategy:

QB: Cutler, CHI
RB: Woodhead, NE
RB: McGahee, BAL
WR: Bennet, CHI
WR: Hester, CHI
WR: Moore, NO
TE: Olsen, CHI
K: Gould, CHI
D: Green Bay

- Alvaro

by Sean McCormick :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 9:05am

It really is a funny year, as all the playoff teams seem to lack the sort of offensive depth that you usually see at the skill positions. I think the two deepest offensive rosters are Philly and the Jets, and both teams could easily be out in the first round. Aside from that, the playoff teams have generally got one or two studs, but mostly they spread the ball around. Definitely a challenging year to do this.

by DaveP :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 10:48am

QB: Vick (PHI)
RB: Woodhead (NE)
RB: Jackson (GB)
WR: Moore (NO)
WR: Mason (BAL)
WR: Meacham (NO)
TE: Graham (NO)
K: Suisham (PIT)

by jones007ben :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 1:56pm

QB: Vick
RB: Woodhead, McGahee
WR: Randle El, Mason, Henderson (NO)
TE: Heap
K: Suisham
Def: Eagles

by Sid :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 1:59pm

QB: Vick (PHI)
RB: Woodhead (NE)
RB: McGahee (BAL)
WR: Mike Williams (SEA)
WR: Mason (BAL)
WR: Avant (PHI)
TE: Aaron Hernandez (NE)
K: Cundiff (BAL)

by Sid :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 1:59pm

QB: Vick (PHI)
RB: Woodhead (NE)
RB: McGahee (BAL)
WR: Mike Williams (SEA)
WR: Mason (BAL)
WR: Avant (PHI)
TE: Aaron Hernandez (NE)
K: Cundiff (BAL)

by Nevic (not verified) :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 2:07pm

Gonna go all-in with the Packers (where possible). That 4-game potential has lured me in!

QB - Jay Cutler CHI
RB - John Kuhn GB
RB - Woodhead NE
WR - Donald Driver GB
WR - James Jones GB
WR - Jordy Nelson GB
TE - Quarless GB
K - Cundiff BAL
D - GB

by LnGrrrR :: Fri, 01/07/2011 - 3:38pm

Tom has it locked up if the Pats make it to the Super Bowl.

by Highland (not verified) :: Sat, 01/08/2011 - 2:03pm

QB Flacco (BAL)
RB Woodhead (NE)
RB H. Evans (NO)
WR Jones (GB)
WR Mason (BAL)
WR Moore (NO)
TE Hernandez (NE)
D Packers (GB)
K Cundiff (BAL)

by twilson :: Sat, 01/08/2011 - 5:26pm

QB: Vick PHI
RB: Woodhead NE
RB: Ju. Jones NO
WR: Mason BAL
WR: Meachem NO
WR: Moore NO
TE: Hernandez NE
K: Cundiff BAL

by Sid :: Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:09am

That LdT pick is looking pretty darn good...