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28 Dec 2006

The Week in Quotes: December 28, 2006

compiled by Alex Carnevale


"I thought about going for two. But that doesn't matter now, does it?"

-- Marvin Lewis, Bengals head coach, on the botched PAT attempt that gave the Broncos the one point win on Sunday afternoon.

"That only happens on PlayStation games. I'm sitting there amazed."

-- Broncos lineman Kenard Lang

(Ed. note: Does Lang even play Madden? Has anyone ever blocked a Madden extra point, ever?)

"The snow came along at the right time, I guess."

-- Broncos receiver Rod Smith


"When the ball is a little slick like that, there is always an opportunity for that to happen, especially when the pressure is on."

-- Broncos coach Mike Shanahan

"We've done it a thousand times. We didn't execute. It had nothing to do with a wet ball or conditions. We work on this every day in practice. I reached for it. The bottom line is we need to work together as a unit."

-- Kyle Larson, Bengals holder (Houston Chronicle)


"Bad character to a teammate is different from what bad character is to the outside world. All teammates think is, 'Can you help us win or not?'"

-- Bengals wideout T.J. Houshmanzadeh

"It has not made one bit of difference to them. To the guys in there, the coverage is almost comical. The most important thing to me when you say the word 'character' is the locker room. The problem is, there's no way for the outside world to evaluate the kind of character that's important to players."

-- Marvin Lewis (ESPN the Magazine)

"This is where things get interesting. In football, you need a mix. You can't win with 53 choirboys. This can be a grimy, nasty sport, and you need people who are a little grimy and nasty."

-- Panthers DE Mike Rucker


"Statistically, where we rank in the top 10, there's that feeling. I'm not going to argue with you. There's that fear that we're not typically synced out. That's something that you constantly work on."

-- Falcons coach Jim Mora Jr., on his team's offensive performance. According to DVOA, the Falcons are the 18th ranked offense in football.

"This team has to keep fighting and has to keep pushing, but we've got to figure out what's going on, and I'm tired of going through it on a week-to-week basis. You know, guys questioning themselves and what we need to do. It needs to get done, and how we're supposed to, you know, coaches have to be coaches and players have to be players. That's the way it is."

-- Falcons QB Michael Vick, on the 7-8 Falcons. (Philadelphia Inquirer)

"We've got first-round guys, we've got guys that have been in the Pro Bowl offensively and defensively, guys who've been in the scheme for two to three years. You know, the talent level is there, and I just think it's a question that needs to be answered. I don't know what it is, but we're too good to be losing these games."

-- Vick, on the state of his offense.


"You just can't come out there and just try to wing it. I'm not saying we did that, but either we've got to come out and throw the football or come out and try to establish the run."

-- Vick (Indianapolis Star)

"When talking with Mike through the year, I know he's very happy with the offense. He's rushed for over 1,000 yards and thrown a career-high touchdown passes. We were ranked in the top 10 going into that game in total offense, so we've been doing some good things offensively."

-- Mora Jr.

"I've been fine. It's not just me, it's most coaches in this season. I'm not worried about that. What I'm most proud of is the fact that our body of work over three years is impressive."

-- Mora Jr., on criticism that has come his way.


"I didn't expect them to cheer us. It's Christmas and everyone wants to be merry. They are obviously upset with us and they have a right to be."

-- Giants center Shaun O'Hara, on fan reaction to his team's loss to the Saints on Sunday.

"I feel badly for all Giants fans to come here on Christmas Eve and then for us to lose the game the way we lost it. It's embarrassing."

-- Giants head coach Tom Coughlin

"Today was awful. We never had anything quite like this. We've had some tough games and games where we didn't finish well, but today, we didn't do anything."

-- Giants QB Eli Manning (Sioux City Journal)


"I don't have the slightest idea what's going on. Sure, I have voiced my opinion. I'm frustrated with how this season went. I don't think that's too bad of a thing to say. I don't know how [Childress] took that or anything else that has happened this season. I don't know if his feelings were hurt or he felt slighted or what have you."

-- former Vikings wide receiver Marcus Robinson, on his relationship with the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, Brad Childress.

"We really didn't have a relationship whatsoever where we just talked back and forth. That's not typical. Normally, head coaches make decisions and do certain things. But at least they talk to you. I mean, look at today. I'm a 10-year veteran being released a week before the season is over. I wasn't told a reason. I just got a phone call..."

-- Robinson, on his former coach Childress.

"He's building a foundation of his type of offense, and that's fine. But all offenses cater around their players. You can run your offense, but you want to cater to the talents of the players you have."

-- Robinson

"That's what's frustrating about the communication. As a veteran, you can see certain things on the field. You're not a coach and you don't call plays, but I can come to the sideline and voice my opinion on what I see out there and hope you respond to it. With [former offensive coordinator Scott] Linehan, you'd come to the sideline and say certain things, and they would take advantage of that. I guarantee you, if you look at Peyton Manning, if you look at those guys Linehan has with the Rams, those players are giving a lot of input."

-- Robinson (San Jose Mercury News)


"You know what? I'm not sure why I took it. I think I took it because it fit perfectly with my schedule and my lifestyle... There was no reason not to."

-- NFL network play-by-play man Bryant Gumbel, on the four year contract he signed with the NFL Network.

"The only person, the only person at the NFL who had a problem with it was the outgoing commissioner. Absolutely nobody but nobody at the NFL had a problem."

-- Gumbel, on his comment about "Gene Upshaw's leash."

"If you start second-guessing yourself, you only weaken the final product. You nitpick yourself, then you go into the next one worried about it. And you miss the big picture."

-- Gumbel, on not watching his games after he does them.


"I'll cringe and I'll go, 'How could you be so stupid?' The only thing I really hope is that when I watch them I'll be able to say, 'Our last game, Giants-Redskins, the guy sounded a lot different than he did doing our first game.'"

-- Gumbel

"If you watch any NFL broadcast you can nitpick on minor mistakes. We hired Bryant because we thought he could bring a fresh approach to broadcasting NFL games."

-- Matt Loomis, producer for the NFL Network.

"I fully expect to do the four years, and I'm hoping that each year will be more enjoyable than the one before."

-- Gumbel (The Press-Enterprise)


"Unofficially, we're the best in the West. Even though we don't get a chance to go to the playoffs, we know we have the best divisional record, and that's big."

-- Cardinals running back Edgerrin James, clearly full of holiday spirit, on the team's NFC West division-best 4-2 record. (Kansas City Star)

"Under the circumstances, it means a lot. At first I didn't look at it as a big deal, but then you realize what's happened around here and how rare it is, and being that it's my first year here, it's a big accomplishment."

-- Cardinals RB Edgerrin James, on reaching 1,000 yards this season.

"I don't know if I'd call it my sweetest [1,000-yard season], but this was definitely the most interesting. The first six weeks, we had five different offensive lines. How could I tell the right tackle what I want him to do on a certain play when the next week he's at guard? It was crazy, but we learned from it. Once we decided this is our unit we're going to play with, we started to roll."

-- Edge (The Dispatch)


"This always happens. When I was in New York, I remember, and we had some seasons that weren't very good about the 10th game they were already asking what's going to happen at the end of the year... Winning a division and a championship is my thinking, is Carl's thinking I know. That's what we'll try."

-- Chiefs head coach Herman Edwards

"Now, you put yourself out there when you do that and a lot of guys don't want to do that in today's world. All the cameras are watching you now. Back when I played there were only maybe two and it wasn't even color. But it's a little different now. Players don't want to be embarrassed. It takes a heck of a guy to do that."

-- Edwards, on leadership in the locker room. (KCChiefs.com)

"All I care about is getting to 9-7. Truthfully, do I think we're going to get in? No. A lot has to happen for us to get in at 9-7. If we do, it's a miracle."

-- Chiefs DE Jared Allen


"I've never been involved in a season like this. The way we're playing and the record we have, it's unbelievable. There's frustration, but we know those guys want to win as much as we do. They're working hard. They're having meetings. They're not going out there to fumble the ball.''

-- Raiders safety Stuart Schweigert, on his resentment towards the Raiders offense.

''It's like cleaning up your room all day long, and somebody just comes in and messes it up. How would you feel?''

-- Raiders linebacker Kirk Morrison, on his team's turnovers. (The New York Times)


"I'm going to do it for as long as I can. You can't always be a cheerleader, so you might as well do it while you still have it in you."

-- Dolphins cheerleader Megan Danforth

"There's pressure. We all take it in stride. We're not pushed to do anything we don't want to do. We choose to look good and eat healthy and do cardio, so it just makes the practices that much easier."

-- Danforth (Maine Morning Sentinel)

"My acting coach said it would be hard for me to act because I didn't have negative life experiences to draw from."

-- Tiki Barber (ESPN the Magazine)

"He is a hot commodity right now, and there is interest from other networks. We're trying to entice him to stay with us. He has a great future in television."

-- Fox senior VP of programming Bill Shine


"To me, the celebration is drawing attention at the end of the play. People have seen the play and did the, 'Ooh! Ah! Wow!' Then, when you get into the end zone, there is no need to do any more 'Ooh! Ah! Wow!' to me because you are drawing attention to yourself."

-- Chargers running back LaDanian Tomlinson, on end zone celebrations.

"A lot of times, it seems like guys [think] it's all about me. 'Hey, look at me!' I don't know, man. Maybe I am just different. Maybe that is the way I think."

-- LT

"I think my Pop Warner coaches, even my high school coaches, were like, 'Son, we don't do that.' They felt like it was making fun of your opponent after you scored by dancing, and it was never right. I think at a young age my coaches really made it clear to me what it was all about."

-- LT (Orlando Sentinel)


"That really messes up the [New Year's Eve] plans. My brothers were coming to the game with me and we were going to a family party afterward. This is going to mess up the whole night."

-- Chicago Tribune reader, Chris, on the NFL's moving the Bears-Packers New Year's Eve game to the flex slot on NBC. (Chicago Tribune)

"The worst offenders are the defensive line. And Gibril Wilson is the ringleader of the group. They're taking out the girls, bringing them to parties and making them skip work. [They have] been practically living at the club and picking the girls off a lot more than they've been picking off passes. They're here all the time and I'm sick of them. I hope they read this and get pisseed off and stop coming."

-- unnamed source at the Headquarters Gentleman's Club, on the antics of Giants players. (New York Post)

"As time wore on I just saw what a genuine, real person he was and how he believed in me. He became a friend ... I just looked at him as a great person who was willing to stand by my side. In return, I never wanted to let him down."

-- Eagles QB Jeff Garcia, on Bill Walsh. (San Jose Mercury News)

"They had three cameras on the field. One to film your upper body, one to film your lower body and one to film the result of the pass. I felt like I was on a reality TV show. After we were done, we spent two hours watching the film of each pass. I was always just, 'Drop back and throw it.' But after that, I thought, 'Wow, this is big time.'"

-- QB Brett Elliott, on Chargers rookie camp. (The Oregonian)

"We're starting to form together as a team and find ways to win ballgames. We are creating our destination. We are just going to go out there and keep playing hard and let it work itself out."

-- Titans receiver Brandon Jones. The Titans have not lost since Week 10.

"That's that German in her. She's tough. She sits in the same seat all the time. They take care of her pretty good over there, too. She went there five times with the Jets, so she's OK. They know who she is."

-- Herm Edwards, on his 81-year-old mother, Martha, who attended Raiders games against the Jets when Herm was coach.

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Posted by: Alex Carnevale on 28 Dec 2006

41 comments, Last at 03 Jan 2007, 1:14am by Ben


by Ray (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 3:09pm

Alex picked the tame Vick quotes this week. A good read as always.

by Jason H (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 3:13pm

So being "nasty" and law-abiding are mutually exclusive?

by the K (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 3:20pm

Does Lang even play Madden? Has anyone ever blocked a Madden extra point, ever?

Actually, in Madden 2006, you could block a point sometimes if you had a fast (for his position) DT. You'd slide him over just a bit, line up between the shoulders of the blockers to the right of the snapper. Sometimes you could blow right between and past both of them and block the point. It didn't work everytime though.

by the K (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 3:22pm

I should amend my last post that I haven't been able to reproduce this even once in Madden 2007.

by David (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 3:22pm

You know, it wouldn't really affect my job performance as a librarian if I stole cars on the side. I'm still willing to bet I'd have gotten fired if I did.

Also, I think the Madden thing isn't blocking an EP (since the kick wasn't blocked to begin with), but randomly missing a gimme kick by a mile, maybe because you forgot to adjust the arrow when you hit the button.

by Zac (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 3:24pm

It's Michael Scott or it's David Brent, depending on whether you're talking about the British or the US version of The Office.

by Zac (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 3:31pm

And I was going to point out that it's doubtful that Jim Mora was talking about DVOA when talking about rankings, but they don't appear to be in the Top 10 according to yardage or points scored, so it's a moot point.

by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 3:32pm

When reading this, i was reminded of 2 famous cricket quotes:

1. All-time great Ian Botham said of playing conditions in Pakistan, "This is a place to send your mother-in-law". Maybe he was refering to spot in Herm Edward's team as RB

2. Geoffrey Boycott, leading test batsman of yesteryears is famous for refering to him mother in quotes and this is what he had to say: "My Mom would run a 100 yds on 15 carries in her backyard against the colts defense" (PS: Sir Geoffrey Boycott is 66! His mother is rumored to be 90+!)

by Grim Jim (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 4:19pm

Madden 2007 throws in the blocked kick from time to time without me doing anything. Too often probably.

by Jamie T. (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 4:30pm

Brandon Jones needs a dictionary.

by Nathan (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 4:40pm

I blocked an extra point in Madden last night with the 49ers.

Smith up the middle, shocked the hell out of me.

by Led (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 4:50pm

What's with the Plato and porn blurb? I don't get it.

by zlionsfan (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 5:17pm

You can sure as hell miss a gimme kick in Madden 2007 if you have it for the Wii. If the Wii doesn't like how you flicked the Wiimote, 0% power, missed kick.

Maybe you can't win with 53 "choirboys", but you can't win with 53 criminals either, unless you can get the judge to stagger their sentences or delay them until the offseason. There's probably a balance that can be struck somewhere ... hey T.J., those guys aren't really helping you win if they're in court, are they?

If Bumbel stays with the NFL Network for four years, I may ask DirecTV to black out those games for me. I don't know, it seems to me that reviewing your work might be helpful if you wanted to improve it. What's that? Yeah, I guess it doesn't seem like he does want to.

Impressive? I don't know, Jim, I mean, even as a Lions fan, 26-27 wins in three seasons isn't impressive (hey, I can remember back that far). Yeah, it would be nice for the next owner and GM of the Lions to accomplish that, but for a real NFL franchise, "impressive" probably means something a little better than that.

I could probably listen to Megan a little more closely if I were looking at her while she was talking.

If the Giants aren't tipping the dancers well, what's happening on the field is karma.

by Rich Conley (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 6:22pm

"If Bumbel stays with the NFL Network for four years, I may ask DirecTV to black out those games for me. I don’t know, it seems to me that reviewing your work might be helpful if you wanted to improve it. What’s that? Yeah, I guess it doesn’t seem like he does want to."

Yeah, sounds a lot like Michael Vick not watching himself on tape.

by David (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 7:22pm

Led: Gumbel is about as suited to moonlighting as a play-by-play announcer as Plato would be to writing dirty books.

by Paul (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 7:41pm

Madden 2004, 1 blocked XP, many blocked FG. It took a created fast, 99 Overall LB, 7 ft tall to do it though. I also managed 1 normal blocked FG. Never recreated in Madden 2006 though.

by Dwifth (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 8:32pm

re: Lang

In a Madden Super Bowl once, I scored a touchdown as time expired. I then missed the extra point which would have sent the game to overtime. I have been playing Madden since the first one on Genesis. I surely have missed fewer than 1% of my extra point attempts.

by Rocco (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 8:37pm

I've never played Madden extensively, but I was able to block XPs on NCAA 07 every now and then. The other team has a bad habit of running the blocked XPs in for 2 on me. I don't recall ever blocking a kick in the earlier versions.

by NF (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 9:20pm

In Madden, the long-snappers are the worst players because there is no long-snapping skill. There are no bad long snaps in Madden.

by joeymeyer (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 10:32pm

Once in a while on NCAA 07 for the XBox 360, a random bad snap will zip past the holder. Kinda like the one that ruined Cinci's season.

by Led (not verified) :: Thu, 12/28/2006 - 11:24pm

Re: 15, that's what I suspected Alex meant. Which is ironic, because if you've read, for example, the Symposium, you would know that Plato was a dirty bird by today's standards. Alex would've been better off using a stoic like Cicero or a scholastic like Aquinas than a horny greek philosopher who was the namesake for "the world's most famous sex club." See link.

by Bill Barnwell :: Fri, 12/29/2006 - 2:03am

OK - how many cricket fans ARE there on Outsiders? If I'd have known, I would've made an Ashes thread, honest.

by PatsFan (not verified) :: Fri, 12/29/2006 - 2:18am

The QOTW missed Jack Del Rio demonstrating what a POS^H^H^H class act he is:

Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio took the matter one step further, suggesting on the website that Brady got what he deserved for not sliding in the first half, when defenders backed off because they thought he would slide.

"They should have speared him then," Del Rio said. "You go face-first and you're a runner."

by Gordon (not verified) :: Fri, 12/29/2006 - 4:14am

When NCAA 07 first came out, it took us a week to figure out that you had to use half power on your XPs to avoid them getting blocked so damn much. Madden, not so much. I have yet to see a blocked extra point (or even a field goal) on Madden 07, although someone did block two punts on me in a game recently.

I totally agree on the crazy "shanking XP for no reason" thing. Goes nicely with the mysterious and unexplained kickoff out of bounds when the arrow is straight ahead and you're playing in a dome.

by Ilanin (not verified) :: Fri, 12/29/2006 - 8:53am

22 - please don't. I think the majority of the cricket fans on this board (me included, and I may well be about to take Tanier to task for suggesting there existed a three-syllable sportsman better than Don Bradman in the Rundown thread) are English, and don't particularly wish to discuss how much we suck.

by Kaveman (not verified) :: Fri, 12/29/2006 - 11:01am

Cricket fan here. Indian origin though; I have no problem discussing how much England sucks. :-)

by Kyle W (not verified) :: Fri, 12/29/2006 - 11:51am

Yet another cricket fan, and I am Scottish so I'm really happy to be talking about England sucking.

I have managed to block 1 punt in the whole time I have been playing Madden and no FG or Extra points. How is tthis done without cheating?

by Mr Shush (not verified) :: Fri, 12/29/2006 - 11:53am

#22, #25 - I dunno, Ilanin. Even fewer of my friends follow cricket than football, and I'd quite appreciate a space in which to rant about the idiocy of managerial decisions, shot selection and so on where I could expect a reply more edifying than, "Oh, yes, it's not going very well, is it?" Bill, I have to say it's staggered me, too. I was aware of 4 regular English posters on the site (myself, Ilanin and two guys called James), plus the occasional Aussie. As even most English people don't seriously follow cricket, I would never have expected it. I suppose I should have thought about the existence of Americans with subcontinental roots, though - the game's huge out there.

by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Fri, 12/29/2006 - 4:46pm

that was a sweet shock! people in FO world do know of a game called cricket!

Bill, i agree - let's us do a piece on England's suckitude in current ashes or India's fightback in SA.

by Ilanin (not verified) :: Fri, 12/29/2006 - 6:36pm

Given the subject of this site, a discussion on sabermetricising cricket would be interesting. I've often thought about the problem, but the game doesn't lend itself to advanced metrics very easily due to a lack of data, and I'm not sure to what extent an FO-style (ie, ball-by-ball) approach could be considered valid.

by joeymeyer (not verified) :: Fri, 12/29/2006 - 7:02pm

Sorry, I'm only a fan of Brockian Ultra-Cricket, a curious game which involves suddenly hitting people for no readily apparent reason and then running away.

by broncos41champs (not verified) :: Fri, 12/29/2006 - 8:27pm

If the QB wasn't sliding feet first, then Del Rio is right.

the skirts on these QBs is already annoying enough as it is

by tom (not verified) :: Fri, 12/29/2006 - 9:06pm

I see no problem with Del Rio's quote.

Football is a rough game, and it's all about the big hits. If a QB isn't going to slide then he should be hit as hard as anyone else.

by saneiac (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 1:19am

Re: 17 "I have been playing Madden since the first one on Genesis. I surely have missed fewer than 1% of my extra point attempts."

You must not have used Philadelphia back then. The Philly kicker on the very first Madden was good for one or two extra point misses per game, no matter where your direction or power meters were. These often weren't close misses, either. These were 10 feet to the right and not high enough to clear the crossbar anyway misses. Field goals were pretty much the same. Philly had an OK run game and a top notch pass game, but the kicker was so frustratingly random that they became the least played team in my group.

by Bright Blue Shorts (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 5:03pm

re: 22 Ashes Thread.

Don't. Just don't.


by Sid (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 9:16pm

(Ed. note: Does Lang even play Madden? Has anyone ever blocked a Madden extra point, ever?)

Yeah, it's pretty much impossible. I don't know what he's talking about.

The comment about Giants players is hilarious.

by Sid (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 9:23pm

RE: 24

I play Madden 2007 online, and while I've never missed/blocked a XP or seen an opponent miss one, I once faced an opponent who was killer against punts. First two punt attempts, he tackled the punter before he could even get the ball off.

by PatsFan (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 9:51pm

Re: 32 and 33

The problem is that Del Rio didn't say "and they should have tackled him the first time" or even "and they should have hit him hard the first time". He said "and they should have speared him." Del Rio is demonstrating he's a classless piece of crap by advocating illegal, cheapshot tactics. I'd think a Broncos fan of all people would be annoyed by that, given your OLs reputation.

by Josh (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:35am

ive blocked a PAT 3 times in madden 07 on the 360. all with the steelers, all by farrior. i find that it is really a timing thing. all i did was switch to farrior quickly then hit Y and he would block it, and then the guy i was playing against would throw his controller down in anger, and i would laugh.

by Josh (not verified) :: Mon, 01/01/2007 - 12:37am

Actually, Madden extra points are possible to block in 2007 at least... I hadn't seen it done very often, but one of my friends manages to get one every few games. It's a matter of timing a run through the line with a tall defensive lineman... He did it to me, and I was pretty surprised.

by Ben (not verified) :: Wed, 01/03/2007 - 1:14am

I used to have a technique in I think Madden 2002 where you could use a somewhat fast DE (mid 70s or so), slide him over so he bumped one DT into the next, and then line him up behind the two who were bunched together. They'd push out the line in front, giving the DE a free run at the ball. I think I blocked about 80-90% of XPs and FGs that way. Sadly, it hasn't worked in any version since.