2018 Divisional Discussion Thread
Here's the open thread for discussing all of this weekend's divisional-round action. On Saturday, we've got Atlanta at Philadelphia followed by Tennessee at New England. On Sunday, we start with Jacksonville at Pittsburgh, then New Orleans at Minnesota.
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Pitt D didn't look ready to play on that opening drive, what the heck was going on?
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The inconsistency in forward progress is so annoying. Fournette ran into a scrum and initially got pushed back a yard, but nobody blew a whistle, so Jacksonville's entire offensive line came and pushed the pile five yards.
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I hate that. As much as anything it seems incredibly dangerous inviting guys from both sides to pile into a prone ball carrier.
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Jacksonville looks like the clearly superior team so far. The wildcard is Bortles. That guy is a ticking time bomb for his own team. The problem for Pittsburgh is, the longer the Jags have a multi-possession lead, the more they can just keep handing off to Fournette and minimize the Blake-tanic's impact on the game.
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I'm not sure Bortles is quite as bad as you're saying. He was 15th in DYAR and 16th in DVOA this year, which is at least mediocre.
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He's no Blaine Gabbert.
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It's not his baseline performance in 2017 I worry about. It's his wild swings...specifically his sometimes insane turnovers. He lost the Jets game single-handedly. And remember the Jaguars would have missed the playoffs if it weren't for the fact that the Chargers somehow couldn't close out the game after Bortles threw them TWO terrible interceptions after the two minute warning.
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that isn't really how a decision tree works (if things were different, they wouldn't be the same) and barnwell would probably point out the jags were about even with the 13-3 pats in pythagorean performance
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I'm not trying to argue that the Jaguars aren't a good team. They clearly are a very good team that belongs in the AFCCG. I was just pointing out that they have a clear weakness at quarterback relative to the rest of their team, and it came very close to sinking them.
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A dream start for the Jags. But the way this latest drive is going for the Steelers, they aren't going to have nearly as bad a day on offense as in Week 5.
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Why in the world are you running a toss play? You have INCHES to go.
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I'm sure our Mike Tomlin fan would have some thoughts about that play call.
Saw stat on Twitter: the Steelers were 1 for 6 converting 4th down this season when they ran.
Given they have Bell and Roethlisberger as rushing options, that's astonishing.
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I haven't seen him in a couple months. I hope he's okay!
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He's made himself scare since Aaron gave him a subtle verbal smack-down over his unprovoked bellicosity towards other posters.
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Terrible play call by the Steelers on that 4th down. Big Ben probably could have just leaned over the center to pick up the 1st down.
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I can’t believe Jacksonville is our last hope to preventing another New England SB appearance.
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On the bright side, Jacksonville is a high-variance team, and Doug Marrone seems okay with taking risks.
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I had just posted to Twitter a "There's lot of time left" comment before that fumble recovery/TD.
Steelers have a great offense and could certainly catch up. But they are not playing well at all. And as the minutes tick by, it will be harder and harder, as they have to pass against a great passing D with great corners and a great pass rush.
The Jags present a different kind of problem than than Steelers would. Given the Pats' record vs. Pittsburgh in recent years, the Jaguars might be a more credible obstacle. They have the kind of defense that could stop the Pats cold.
But then there is the Bortles issue...
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I can't believe the AFC has one team who would be favored over any of the NFC playoff teams.
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You don’t think the Pats would be favoured over any of the 3 remaining NFC teams?
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Pats would be favored over maybe all but Minnesota or New Orleans. Maybe Philly with Wentz.
I think Atlanta would have been favored over everyone else in the AFC field.
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...and yet they couldn't beat the Eagles w/o Wentz.
No, the Falcons wouldn't have been favored over either the Pats or the Steelers.
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OK this game is officially over.
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I thought the first time the Jags blew out Pittsburgh it was a bit flukey because of all the interceptions. I guess not.
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If the Steelers get a TD before the half here, it's still far from over. Fournette getting injured could still prove to be very important.
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How's that for high-variance?
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I liked going for it on fourth down there, since it would be a long kick and down 21, a FG doesn't help you much. But letting that much time drain off the clock before calling a timeout was terrible. Of course it doesn't matter when you just go right for a TD anyway.
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Definitely not over. Even if Pitt don't score on the drive to open the 2nd half there is still plenty of time left but the offense would be helped by the Steelers stepping up and getting some 3 and outs. If Fournette doesn't come back into the game and they have to lean on Yeldon then that would be interesting although even if he does come back how good will he be now he's hurt? A turnover by the Steelers D would also flip this game. Can Bortles go the entire 2nd half without a killer mistake?
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Wow, that was a FIFA-level dive by Bell against Ramsey on the personal foul.
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Questionable personal foul there.
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Juju Smith-Schuster pushes Jalen Ramsey into out-of-bounds Le'Veon Bell. Officials flag Ramsey for unnecessary roughness.
This is the kind of call that underscores the need for _all_ plays to be reviewable.
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This is all a conspiracy, and somehow the Patriots' fault.
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If they reviewed it, it would have been ruled an incomplete pass.
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pittsburgh listen up! you run at speed, and away from power. sheesh!
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This was already apparent in the first half, but the Jags aren't really stopping the Steelers except via turnovers. Otherwise Pittsburgh is going up and down the field pretty easily. Jacksonville's offense is going to have to keep scoring to secure this game.
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The play-by-play guy was moved to tears by the beauty of that touchdown. He would change his tune real fast though if he knew how the refs were favoring New England in this game
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What a sneaky dirty move by JSS.
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He deserved to have his bike stolen!
But seriously, you think he was trying for that outcome? I thought he might have been surprised, like he was pushing him just to push
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All three of the Steelers touchdowns thus far have been thread-the-needle throws from distance (outside or just inside the red zone). It seems like they're trying to test their luck since the first interception (and 1 or 2 near misses) and it's playing out for them.
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This game is wrecking the curve for ALEX.
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It's hard to make ALEX's correlation worse.
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Yeah I spoke a little too soon. Jax still in the lead though. I can feel a Bortles turnover coming soon though.
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I was thinking the same thing but didn't see that bomb coming. This is a great back and forth game.
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Wow! What are the chances the Jax player on the defensive right stepped forward aggressively before the 4th down snap specifically to get Ben to give away the play? When he audibled it seemed obvious he was calling off a run
While this is probably an optimal strategy against Pittsburgh, let's hope they're smart enough not to try it in New England next week.
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Steelers have dominated this second half. But suddenly it's 7-7 in second half scoring and the Steelers haven't even made any progress in cutting into that 14-point lead.
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Brown is so f'ing amazing.
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Wow, does it get any better than Roethlisberger to Brown?
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Wow. Great touchdown play. Can't believe Haley finally hit on a fourth down playcall!
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That was the second fourth down TD for the Steelers though, that's also how they got their TD right before the half.
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Looked like the Jax db had a hold of Brown the whole down the field and Brown still made the catch
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The lack of a pass rush by Pittsburgh today is killing them
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Yea, when he's pressured is when Bortles starts to do silly things.
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The Steelers can’t stop the Jaguars.
Things you don’t expect to say.
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At least in the first and fourth quarters. In between, after the Jags' offense did nothing, which is why the Steelers tying the game seemed inevitable for a while there.
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Good play call. Pittsburgh D totally fooled
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Couple of gigantic third down conversions. Bortles hasn't been exactly good, but I think he's played the role of game manager... Which seems weird to say about a QB for an offense that now, as I type, has scored 35 points.
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Raise your hand if you thought Roethlisberger vs. Bortles would be the highest-scoring, most exciting game of the weekend.
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i have to go to the store, i'm out of toilet paper, does anyone have a terrible towel i could borrow?
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Ben showing the moves.
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Pitt's D has been gashed today and not come up with any turnovers. I truly didn't see this coming.
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Steelers should really have tried to avoid using timeouts on offense.
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How is that not PI on 26??
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Definitely should have been. Love this mad bombing by Big Ben. Not only fun to watch, but paying off (should have paid off there).
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Roethlisberger was so eager to lateral the ball on that drive.
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Steelers only down by 7 now. Best playoff game so far?
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I think so. I'm at work, and having trouble getting work done because I can't tear myself away from this game on my phone.
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“We’re going to play [the Patriots] again,” Steeler's safety Mike Mitchell told Sports Illustrated. “We can play them in hell, we can play them in Haiti, we can play them in New England. … We’re gonna win.”
But can he play them from his living room?
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/01/10/steelers-mike-mitchell-guarantees-playoff-win-over-patriots/
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Yeah, how do you overlook a team that thrashed you so badly? But all you heard coming out of Pittsburgh was Patriots talk.
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Listening to, but not watching the game: how's the Jags pass rush doing at this point? Rushing 3 or 4 and playing coverage? Rushing 5 and not getting home? It doesn't sound effective.
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Appear to mostly be playing coverage. I've rarely noticed any blitzing. Pittsburgh's offensive line has had a good game.
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"Questionable decision" doesn't begin to describe that onside kick.
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For a minute there I was worried they'd do the smart thing by kicking deep!
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Onside kick was way overaggressive there. If they were down be 3 or 4, I would be okay with it. However, a Jacksonville FG puts the game away in this case.
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Most onside kicks don't result in the receiving team already being in FG range, so you don't anticipate that. You have to get a three and out either way, so might as well try for the onside. I think it's the right call. The big problem was only kicking it five yards.
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Even if it went 10 yards, the Jaguars would only need 7-8 yards to get into makeable range.
I wonder if anyone has studied the probability of recovering an onside kick vs getting a 3 and out on defense. I'd be shocked if the latter weren't more likely.
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I think it's rare for onside kicks be recovered at exactly ten yards. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like most recovered onside kicks are not in a position where a few yards will set you for a FG. Not to mention it's in Heinz Field, where FGs are difficult.
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In a very chunky PFR search, you convert about 25% of onside kicks and force a 3-and-out (or better) about 40% of the time.
I'm not confident in that onside search, though.
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My gestault is that sounds about right. The onside kick number seems a bit high, however. In any case, I think if you have the timeouts and at least a competent defense, you kick it away.
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The decision making by the Steelers coaching staff has been really strange.
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Every non-Patriots coaching staff has looked questionable at best in the playoffs thus far (I guess Marrone hasn't made a huge blunder yet).
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What was Pederson's mistake?
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Kicking the field goal to make it 15-10 instead of going for the game-sealing touchdown would have come back to bite Pederson in the ass if the Falcons had better goal-to-go playcalling/execution.
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But if they hadn't converted, Atlanta kicks the chipshot FG to win.
That seems like a wash to me.
I'd have gone for it, but I get the thinking.
Belichick has kicked to go up by one score on 3/4 opportunities.
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But they would have had to start from inside their own 5 yard line, which is a much different proposition than receiving a kickoff. I can see kicking when you're up by 4. But anything less, and you're still allowing a touchdown to beat you.
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If the Eagles don't score there, the Falcons need just 60 yards to have a legit shot at a FG to win the game. By kicking the FG, the Falcons have to drive ~75 yards for a TD. As we found out, scoring a TD is a lot more difficult than kicking a FG. There's no way you can go for it in that situation and risk a FG beating you. Especially when you consider that the longest TD drive Atlanta had on the night was about 20 yards after a muffed punt. They hadn't been moving the ball at all. Give the defense a little more margin for error and let them seal the deal.
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I agree. People always underestimate how much harder it is to score a last-second TD than it is to kick a last-second FG.
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It's especially funny given that Atlanta ended up in roughly the same spot 4th and Goal from the 2, and didn't make it. It was probably 50/50 if the Eagle score or turn the ball over on downs if they go for it. And it seems like it has become fairly common for teams to move into FG territory in ~30 seconds at the end of a game. Hell, the Eagles did it themselves at the end of the 1st half.
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Jax defense cannot be concerning the Pats that much
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The Patriots don't have Antonio Brown. Gronk, however, will pose some problems.
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Because judging a unit based on one game when you have an entire season at your disposal always makes sense.
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I wrote that based on the notion that before this game the Pats were likely not concerned and nothing in this game would catch their attention and lead to them consider otherwise.
but hey, thanks for the sarcasm. Always welcome
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If you think any Bill Belichick coached team is going to be "not concerned" about any opponent, I don't know what planet you're from. The Patriots could be playing a peewee team and Belichick would still require his team to focus like they were a squad of all pros.
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Ok. Pretty clear you want to be hyper literal and fight on every post. Have at it.
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It's not his fault you were so unclear
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It was a seemingly benign comment the elicited immediate nasty tone. Is that the MO now here?
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Key word "seemingly." You saw it one way, he read it another. If you don't want people interpreting your comments through the filter of their own perspective, it's on you to communicate more. I don't see what the big deal about it is anyway
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I don't think mild sarcasm qualifies as nasty tone. Especially to a comment that was pretty silly (any team would be rightly concerned when facing one of the best defenses in the league, one supbar game doesn't change that).
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Well, why should it? They'll be playing the Steelers, because they had nothing to be concerned about the Jaguars' offense after last weekend, right? I only wish that New England would fall victim to that type of overconfidence.
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Darth Brady and Emperor Belichick lurk in their fully armed and operational homefield advantage, daring Jar-Jar Bortles and Qui-Gon Fournette to make a trench run.
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"That defense is a hunk o' junk!"
"She might not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. She'll do -27.5% DVOA against the pass"
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+1
Maybe Mark Brunell and Jimmy Smith can use their Force illusions to help out the Jaguar's offense.
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Great clock management, there.
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Yea, that clock management was an Andy Reid fever dream. Took the Steelers' win probability from single digits to zero.
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Once they got to the five so quickly, the only real obstacle should've been the onside kick. Quick throws to the end zone leave plenty of time on the other side for a completion or two to set up a field goal, but instead it's hold and hold and hold the ball leading to a 10-second runoff, then an inexplicable screen and failure to get out of bounds and, presto, like 45 seconds have disappeared in the space of two plays. Unreal.
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Hey Steelers,
Maybe overlooking the Jags and looking forward to next weeks rematch against the Pats was not a good idea eh??
Way to prepare your team Mike Tomlin!
Oh and loosing to Blake Brothel! Wow
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I think Jacksonville has a better chance of beating NE than Pittsburgh ever did. Honestly I can't really see either of them pulling it off, but Jax is more of a wild card. They match up strength/strength and weakness/weakness; if Jax's weakness plays like they did today, we'll have a close game on our hands. If Jalen Ramsey has a Richard Sherman-esque coming out party, we'll have a Jax vs. [Minn/NO] Bowl!
Jacksonville's deficiencies are more difficult to exploit. You can force B.Roeth into making mistakes, but you can't force Bortles into doing anything. You also don't *need* to, he'll make mistakes all on his own. But maybe not!
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I know recovering the onside kick and returning it for a TD has to be like a 0.001% probability, but maybe try it because it’s your only shot? The squib kick makes no sense...the Jaguars player was so far away from anyone that even if he fumbled it he’d have had all the time in the world to recover.
Talk about terrible coaching by Tomlin in the last few minutes.
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It's actually a flat zero percent. Like a muffed punt, a recovered onside kick cannot be advanced by the kicking team.
Pittsburgh's only real hope was Jacksonville receiving the kick, having full possession, then fumbling.
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True. That's actually what I suggested they do at the time, but for some reason I neglected to write that here. Oops.
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More interesting than another Steeler's matchup for Pats. More of a test for Hoodie to play an unfamiliar opponent that has scored 45 and 10 points in the playoffs.
McCourty was on the injury report for yesterday's game and he got hurt again yesterday. I thought he looked hobbled. Would be a big blow to Pats secondary if he was out.
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My opinion is the winner of this game is the team best suited to beat the Patriots. I’m so sick of the Pats that this Packers fan would cheer for the Vikings if it came down to it!
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I know, i know...
I’ve been around too many Pats fans for too long to be able to ever cheer for them.
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I'm just soooo glad that the Jags have saved us from having to hear James Harrison's name mentioned a million times (even if he didn't play a snap) next week.
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Harrison has been getting a decent number of snaps. He really has filled a huge need in the Pats' defense. So you won't hear his name a million times, but you will hear it.
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Oh, I just meant the narrative of Harrison playing against his former team of 17 years after their ugly breakup would super annoying. Against any team other than the Steelers he'll just be another guy in terms of storylines.
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Did you know Jerome Bettis is from Detroit?
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Storylines?
Did you know the Vikings could be the first team to play a Super Bowl in their own stadium?
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And now we get to watch Troy Aikman and Jack Buck suck out all the excitement in the game I've been looking forward to all week.
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I wish it were Jack Buck.
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Oops. It's his evil son Joe.
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CBS guys are really ripping Tomlin for the onside kick. But really, I question how they let the Jaguars score 45 points!!
Blake Bortles is now Dan Fouts??
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I give Fouts credit for being all over the Pittsburgh playcalling on those 4th downs earlier.
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Yes, Fouts was good today.
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He's been good all year. Romo's making everyone step their games up
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this was the jags third 40+ point game (also against baltimore, so, against dvoa's top 2 afc defenses apart from their own). pats scored 40 once this year
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Are you arguing something?
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I think Steelers with Antonio Brown would have beaten the Pats, even in Foxboro but I'm glad that matchup isn't happening so we have a chance to have a different team representing the AFC in the Superbowl. It's hard to take what we saw today and apply that to the next matchup because NE and Pitt are so different.
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The Vikings in the super bowl at home has got to be our best shot against the Pats, I'd think. Sorry Brees
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I don't disagree. Since the Wentz injury, the Vikings have been the best coached and most complete team in the NFC.
The Pats beat the Saints back in September. Both teams are better now, but I would still give the Pats the advantage there.
The Vikings are more physical and match up well with New England. And they'd be playing at home. Though given how the NFL distributes Super Bowl tickets, that would be far less of a home field advantage than they have today.
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I'm curious how SB week would go for that game if MIN is in it.
Spectacularly unfriendly to out-of-towners I'd expect. Lots of fire alarm pulls.
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You mean the refs would be pulling the fire alarms to keep the Vikings from resting? Those black and white bastards. Nothing is too low for them
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You're not nearly far enough down the rabbit hole.
The fire alarms will pull themselves.
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I didn't know they even had rabbits that far north, but I wouldn't put it past the refs to use whatever rodents they can to further their evil plans
;)
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Really?
Watership Down is set in Hampshire, which is north of Minnesota.
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Hahahaha!
Oh my god I hated that book
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I know from experience there are rabbits in Alaska.
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Even though the Jags are good, I cannot see B.B. losing to the Brothel. However, the Vikings and Saints have me worried. Not so much the eagles without Wentz.
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Vikings get 4 times as much yardage on PI in one drive than the Saints have gotten all season.
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The one at the 5 looked like a soccer dive to me.
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Vikings looking strong early up 10. I think they will have quite the conundrum on their hands as to which QBthey will sign for next year.
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