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Week 17 Open Game Discussion

There's a lot on the line in the season's final Sunday. In the NFC, the Rams, Bears, and Seahawks are all fighting for positioning, while the Vikings and Eagles are just hoping to qualify for the postseason. The AFC field is crazy -- four teams have clinched playoff berths, but nobody has clinched any specific seed or bye, and four teams are still battling for the final two spots. It all ends on Sunday night when Andrew Luck and the Colts play the Titans in a winner-gets-in, loser-goes-home playoff qualifier. Use this thread to discuss them all.

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53 comments, Last at 02 Jan 2019, 11:49am

1 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Mountain Time ---- formerly Ninjalectual // Dec 29, 2018 - 7:31am

With every game being played on Sunday, the networks have some interesting booths, who all unsurprisingly got assigned the ass games. I'd love to hear Beth Mowins and Steve Beuerlein except they're stuck with Miami-Buffalo. I'd never heard of Mowins before but she cannot possibly be as bad as the usual guys we all complain about.

I'm a big fan of Pat McAfee's commentary on twitter and I would probably watch Detroit vs Green Bay just because of him, but of course Fox has YET ANOTHER Dallas game televised nationally. I wish they had Aikman doing that game (instead of Min-Chi), so I could dodge two birds with one stone. Two cars with one frog? Whatever.

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2 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by turbohappy // Dec 30, 2018 - 1:29am

Too bad McAfee isn't doing the Colts game. That would be awesome. Such a big fan. His jersey is the only one in my closet at the moment ;-)

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3 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by ammek // Dec 30, 2018 - 1:12pm

Is there a subliminal Colts push going on at FO? Four of the pictures on the homepage are of Colts – this thread, scramble, film room and the last Dvoa ratings – and now both of the comments on here are on the subject of Indianapolis and/or its ex-punter.

Colts schmolts.

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11 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Yu Narukami // Dec 30, 2018 - 3:56pm

I noticed the same thing, and the same thing with the Saints last week (at least 4 cover images). Splits happen!

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4 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by joe football // Dec 30, 2018 - 2:01pm

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5 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Anger...rising // Dec 30, 2018 - 2:32pm

Can anybody who was watching Jacksonville-Houston explain what happened with that punt "muff" that got five seconds of confusing coverage on RedZone? I can imagine no way Jacksonville could legitimately end up being awarded the ball, yet...

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6 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by RedZone // Dec 30, 2018 - 2:48pm

According to the ESPN play-by-play, Houston ended up with the ball. http://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401030759

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7 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Anger...rising // Dec 30, 2018 - 3:05pm

The first supposed muff by the Texans, not the subsequent straightforward muff by the Jags.

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9 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by RedZone // Dec 30, 2018 - 3:32pm

Sorry, didn't know about that one. All I could find is this: https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/1079440507212832769

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8 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Cythammer // Dec 30, 2018 - 3:22pm

With Houston expanding their lead to 14 and the Patriots already up big on the Jets, there's no longer much going on in terms of playoff implications in this early slate of games.

EDIT: And even the other games are almost all blowouts in addition to being irrelevant.

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10 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by PTORaven // Dec 30, 2018 - 3:41pm

four of the six images on the front page right now are of the colts. i assume you're going for a Wheaties box or Madden style jinx.

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12 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by mathesond // Dec 30, 2018 - 4:47pm

Bills fans are getting a nice season-ending present.

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15 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Mountain Time ---- formerly Ninjalectual // Dec 30, 2018 - 6:01pm

McDermott quit?

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20 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by dank067 // Dec 30, 2018 - 7:12pm

Despite a big game through the air today, looks like Josh Allen should narrowly finish the season with more yards per carry than yards per pass attempt, immortalizing him among the ranks of Bobby Douglass, Randall Cunningham and Michael Vick.

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23 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Cythammer // Dec 30, 2018 - 7:21pm

Also lead his team in rushing for the season, which puts him in basically the same company of guys.

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by El Muneco // Dec 31, 2018 - 12:15am

Plus Russell Wilson 2017, the outlier.

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13 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Cythammer // Dec 30, 2018 - 5:19pm

So the Bucs' two-headed QB monster of Ryan Fitzpatrick and Jameis Winston finish with a combined 5358 passing yards on the season. That's only a little off the record total Peyton had of 5477 in 2013. Fitzpatrick was more prolific than Winston, so if he had remained the starter all year he would probably have broken the record. It's quite strange a team managed to have one of the most prolific passing offenses ever by starting a career journeyman and a guy who is widely considered a disappointment.

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14 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Aaron Brooks Good Twin // Dec 30, 2018 - 5:27pm

And on a 5-11 team

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16 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Mr Shush // Dec 30, 2018 - 6:08pm

A 5-11 team with only a slightly above average offense, in efficiency terms.

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42 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Tom Tulpa // Dec 30, 2018 - 11:37pm

Which is why Dirk Koetter and Mike Smith are now available to wash your car--except they'll leave losing streaks on it.

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17 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Mountain Time ---- formerly Ninjalectual // Dec 30, 2018 - 6:14pm

Catching up on the morning's highlights. Kiko Alonso is a thug that needs to be kicked out of the NFL permanently.

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18 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Cythammer // Dec 30, 2018 - 6:21pm

My preseason Super Bowl pick of Vikings over Steelers is looking a tad shaky at the moment.

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22 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Dan_L // Dec 30, 2018 - 7:19pm

This is the least likely, yet still not impossible option. So you have that going for you.

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34 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Mr Shush // Dec 30, 2018 - 8:45pm

I think it (was) probably more likely than some combinations involving worse teams with better chances of qualifying by less chance of winning once they got there.

I'm looking at you, Titans.

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19 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Cythammer // Dec 30, 2018 - 6:46pm

Lamar Jackson fumbles stretching for his third rushing TD of the game. However, it's initially ruled a TD, which means the Browns return of the fumble for their own TD is halted by the refs' whistle. Then next play the Browns should be able to make the blown call irrelevant, but a wide, wide open Landry somehow lets the ball bounce right off his face mask. Wild sequence.

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21 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Cythammer // Dec 30, 2018 - 7:18pm

Nick Foles ties the NFL record for consecutive completions at 25, but his next pass is errant.

Also the Eagles have an absurd time of possession advantage of 35:40-7:47.

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24 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by BJR // Dec 30, 2018 - 7:31pm

Atrocious from Mike Zimmer, overturns his own team's 4th down conversion by throwing a pointless challenge flag.

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25 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Steve in WI // Dec 30, 2018 - 7:35pm

I don’t know what Matt Nagy is doing. This game is now meaningless and Trubisky and all other starters are still in the game. Quite frankly their easiest playoff matchup next week is the Vikings, and I just don’t get it. They’ve already had three players get injured today - why risk it?

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26 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by BJR // Dec 30, 2018 - 7:39pm

It's inexplicable. Trubisky scrambling for his life on back-to-back plays just now. Get him out of there!

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27 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Aaron Brooks Good Twin // Dec 30, 2018 - 7:41pm

Says the Vikings fan.

=)

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37 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Chip // Dec 30, 2018 - 9:41pm

I’d rather play the banged up Eagles. At least that’s what the straight up DVOA tables tell me (league avg vs 10th for the Vikes). Plus Foles got knocked out of the Skins game.

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39 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by BJR // Dec 30, 2018 - 10:02pm

Yes, I doubt it factored into the Bears decision making today, but if Foles is banged-up then the Eagles don't stand a chance next week. In fact I predict it will get ugly, quickly.

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28 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Mountain Time ---- formerly Ninjalectual // Dec 30, 2018 - 8:12pm

I don't get why everyone thinks this game is meaningless for the Bears. They get to pick their opponent next week! And they apparently prefer playing the Eagles.

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29 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Cythammer // Dec 30, 2018 - 8:21pm

ESPN said earlier in the day the Steelers' chances of making the playoffs were down to 2%. With a lead of their own and Cleveland's deficit down to 2, there just might be a chance that 2% comes through.

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33 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Cythammer // Dec 30, 2018 - 8:41pm

When Cleveland had first down just outside of FG range, Pittsburgh's chances were probably all the way above 50%. Didn't work out, though.

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30 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Cythammer // Dec 30, 2018 - 8:26pm

Here we go. Steelers win and the Browns have the ball down by 2. This would be an amazing escape for Pittsburgh if it all works out.

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49 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Jerry // Dec 31, 2018 - 6:15am

Probably the only time you'll hear loud "Let's Go Browns!" chants at Heinz Field. It was an interesting experience.

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31 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Boots Day // Dec 30, 2018 - 8:27pm

... and Dirk Koetter gets fired before the late games are even over.

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32 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by vrao81 // Dec 30, 2018 - 8:41pm

Ravens win with late int, steelers out of playoffs.

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36 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by CM // Dec 30, 2018 - 9:37pm

So many are saying the Steelers are out of the playoffs, I'm almost hoping for a tie, just to get a chuckle. Maybe just overtime?

Heck, even Jim Carrey was more optimistic than Pittsburgh fans, and his odds were probably longer. ;-)

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35 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Cythammer // Dec 30, 2018 - 9:22pm

Is Marcus Mariota supposed to be healthy enough to play by next week if the Titans win this one?

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38 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by vrao81 // Dec 30, 2018 - 9:51pm

Bowles fired.

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40 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by BJR // Dec 30, 2018 - 10:07pm

Much chatter recently about the Ravens being the team "nobody wants to play", but that title should probably belong to the Colts.

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50 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Lost Ti-Cats Fan // Dec 31, 2018 - 4:03pm

+1

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52 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Mr Shush // Jan 02, 2019 - 7:42am

The Texans would love to play the Ravens. I'd swap the Colts for them any day.

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53 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by PTORaven // Jan 02, 2019 - 11:49am

the Ravens are the team no offense wants to play

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41 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by LionInAZ // Dec 30, 2018 - 11:37pm

I couldn't figure out Collinsworth's praise of Blaine Gabbert unless he's never seen him play. It was truly amazing, though, to see that Gabbert has survived 9 HC and 8 OC changes. Has there ever been a QB so destructive to coaching careers?

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51 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Lost Ti-Cats Fan // Dec 31, 2018 - 4:08pm

The only stretch of football I got to sit down and watch yesterday was Q4 of the Indy-Tenn game, and I have to say … how is it possible that Blaine Gabbert is considered one of the top 64 QBs available to NFL teams? or top 96 QBs, or whatever.

I know, I shouldn't extrapolate from one quarter of football, but if you'd taped off the name on the back of his jersey and told me Tennessee had been forced to play an ex Division III QB who'd only had a couple of weeks of practice squad time, I'd have believed you.

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43 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by Cythammer // Dec 30, 2018 - 11:40pm

Indy has been totally dominating this game and suddenly it's a one score margin. I still think they are heavy favorites, but it's getting much closer than it should be, and if the Titans can get some more breaks go their way, who knows.

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44 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by LionInAZ // Dec 30, 2018 - 11:47pm

Did they just call an offside on TEN after the 3rd quarter game clock had expired?

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45 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by LionInAZ // Dec 30, 2018 - 11:55pm

The most sad thing to me is that Eric Ebron has more TDs in one year as a Colt than in four years with the Lions.

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46 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by LionInAZ // Dec 30, 2018 - 11:57pm

And there goes the Blaine Gabbertian move -- the inexplicable throw to nowhere but a defender.

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48 Re: Week 17 Open Game Discussion

by vrao81 // Dec 31, 2018 - 12:31am

Plus he stared down the receiver on the 2nd int.

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