Week 17 Quick Reads
by Aaron Schatz
Traditionally, for the last week of the year, Quick Reads is a rundown of the best and worst players of the season by DYAR, rather than analysis of Week 17. Vince Verhei is writing that article for tomorrow. For those of you who want to see Week 17, however, here are the tables with the best and worst DYAR totals for the final week of the season. You will all have to provide the commentary yourselves, as we're all busy with 100,000 other end-of-season tasks.
Tables with full-season stats for players are now online. Tables for team stats, along with full-season DVOA ratings and commentary, will be up later this afternoon.
Quarterbacks | |||||||||
Rk |
Player |
Team |
CP/AT |
Yds |
TD |
INT |
Total DYAR |
Pass DYAR |
Rush DYAR |
1. |
Aaron Rodgers | GB | 17/22 |
226 |
2 |
0 |
198 |
183 |
15 |
2. |
Geno Smith | NYJ | 20/25 |
358 |
3 |
0 |
192 |
209 |
-16 |
3. |
Joe Flacco | BAL | 22/36 |
312 |
2 |
0 |
154 |
152 |
3 |
4. |
Colin Kaepernick | SF | 15/26 |
204 |
2 |
0 |
107 |
79 |
28 |
5. |
Ben Roethlisberger | PIT | 24/38 |
317 |
2 |
1 |
99 |
136 |
-38 |
6. |
Eli Manning | NYG | 28/53 |
429 |
1 |
1 |
73 |
73 |
0 |
7. |
Mark Sanchez | PHI | 23/36 |
292 |
2 |
1 |
68 |
65 |
3 |
8. |
Matt Hasselbeck | IND | 13/19 |
155 |
1 |
0 |
53 |
63 |
-9 |
9. |
Kyle Orton | BUF | 16/23 |
176 |
1 |
0 |
51 |
51 |
0 |
10. |
Cam Newton | CAR | 10/16 |
114 |
1 |
0 |
50 |
23 |
26 |
11. |
Matthew Stafford | DET | 21/41 |
217 |
3 |
0 |
40 |
26 |
15 |
12. |
Tony Romo | DAL | 22/34 |
299 |
2 |
1 |
36 |
36 |
0 |
Rk |
Player |
Team |
CP/AT |
Yds |
TD |
INT |
Total DYAR |
Pass DYAR |
Rush DYAR |
13. |
Andrew Luck | IND | 10/16 |
160 |
2 |
0 |
34 |
33 |
1 |
14. |
Ryan Lindley | ARI | 23/39 |
316 |
2 |
3 |
25 |
25 |
0 |
15. |
Tom Brady | NE | 8/16 |
80 |
0 |
0 |
16 |
12 |
4 |
16. |
Peyton Manning | DEN | 21/37 |
273 |
0 |
0 |
11 |
31 |
-20 |
17. |
Case Keenum | HOU | 25/35 |
250 |
2 |
1 |
-7 |
-10 |
3 |
18. |
Russell Wilson | SEA | 17/25 |
239 |
0 |
1 |
-11 |
-16 |
5 |
19. |
Chase Daniel | KC | 16/27 |
157 |
0 |
0 |
-13 |
-22 |
9 |
20. |
Jay Cutler | CHI | 23/36 |
172 |
1 |
0 |
-25 |
-45 |
20 |
21. |
Teddy Bridgewater | MIN | 17/25 |
209 |
1 |
1 |
-28 |
-36 |
9 |
22. |
Jimmy Garoppolo | NE | 10/17 |
90 |
0 |
0 |
-28 |
-28 |
-1 |
Rk |
Player |
Team |
CP/AT |
Yds |
TD |
INT |
Total DYAR |
Pass DYAR |
Rush DYAR |
23. |
Andy Dalton | CIN | 27/38 |
244 |
2 |
2 |
-37 |
-33 |
-4 |
24. |
Josh McCown | TB | 14/22 |
115 |
1 |
1 |
-50 |
-48 |
-2 |
25. |
Ryan Tannehill | MIA | 23/39 |
259 |
1 |
0 |
-52 |
-52 |
0 |
26. |
Philip Rivers | SD | 21/34 |
291 |
0 |
2 |
-68 |
-64 |
-4 |
27. |
Drew Brees | NO | 24/38 |
281 |
1 |
3 |
-69 |
-69 |
0 |
28. |
Connor Shaw | CLE | 14/28 |
177 |
0 |
1 |
-71 |
-68 |
-3 |
29. |
Matt Ryan | ATL | 29/47 |
260 |
0 |
2 |
-79 |
-78 |
-1 |
30. |
Blake Bortles | JAC | 14/33 |
117 |
0 |
0 |
-90 |
-112 |
23 |
31. |
Shaun Hill | STL | 26/37 |
243 |
0 |
2 |
-93 |
-93 |
0 |
32. |
Derek Carr | OAK | 18/36 |
158 |
1 |
1 |
-96 |
-92 |
-4 |
33. |
Robert Griffin | WAS | 27/41 |
336 |
1 |
2 |
-101 |
-104 |
3 |
34. |
Charlie Whitehurst | TEN | 12/27 |
72 |
1 |
0 |
-118 |
-127 |
8 |
Five most valuable running backs (Total) | |||||||||||
Rk |
Player |
Team |
Runs |
Rush Yds |
Rush TD |
Rec |
Rec Yds |
Rec TD |
Total DYAR |
Rush DYAR |
Rec DYAR |
1. |
DeMarco Murray | DAL | 20 |
100 |
1 |
3/3 |
21 |
0 |
54 |
33 |
21 |
2. |
Lamar Miller | MIA | 19 |
178 |
1 |
0/2 |
0 |
0 |
43 |
49 |
-6 |
3. |
Frank Gore | SF | 25 |
144 |
0 |
2/3 |
5 |
0 |
37 |
41 |
-4 |
4. |
C.J. Anderson | DEN | 13 |
87 |
3 |
2/3 |
20 |
0 |
34 |
52 |
-19 |
5. |
Le'veon Bell | PIT | 8 |
20 |
0 |
6/6 |
80 |
0 |
25 |
-11 |
36 |
Five most valuable running backs (Rushing) | |||||||||||
Rk |
Player |
Team |
Runs |
Rush Yds |
Rush TD |
Rec |
Rec Yds |
Rec TD |
Total DYAR |
Rush DYAR |
Rec DYAR |
1. |
C.J. Anderson | DEN | 13 |
87 |
3 |
2/3 |
20 |
0 |
34 |
52 |
-19 |
2. |
Lamar Miller | MIA | 19 |
178 |
1 |
0/2 |
0 |
0 |
43 |
49 |
-6 |
3. |
Frank Gore | SF | 25 |
144 |
0 |
2/3 |
5 |
0 |
37 |
41 |
-4 |
4. |
DeMarco Murray | DAL | 20 |
100 |
1 |
3/3 |
21 |
0 |
54 |
33 |
21 |
5. |
Shonn Greene | TEN | 11 |
94 |
0 |
0/0 |
0 |
0 |
23 |
23 |
0 |
Least valuable running back (Total) | |||||||||||
Rk |
Player |
Team |
Runs |
Rush Yds |
Rush TD |
Rec |
Rec Yds |
Rec TD |
Total DYAR |
Rush DYAR |
Rec DYAR |
1. |
Matt Forte | CHI | 17 |
51 |
0 |
8/12 |
23 |
0 |
-61 |
-15 |
-46 |
Least valuable running back (Rushing) | |||||||||||
Rk |
Player |
Team |
Runs |
Rush Yds |
Rush TD |
Rec |
Rec Yds |
Rec TD |
Total DYAR |
Rush DYAR |
Rec DYAR |
1. |
Chris Ivory | NYJ | 13 |
29 |
0 |
1/1 |
8 |
1 |
-12 |
-30 |
18 |
Five most valuable wide receivers and tight ends | |||||||||
Rk |
Player |
Team |
Rec |
Att |
Yds |
Avg |
TD |
Total DYAR |
|
1. |
Eric Decker | NYJ | 10 |
11 |
221 |
22.1 |
1 |
86 |
|
2. |
Michael Floyd | ARI | 8 |
12 |
153 |
19.1 |
2 |
76 |
|
3. |
Randall Cobb | GB | 4 |
5 |
80 |
20.0 |
2 |
57 |
|
4. |
Brian Hartline | MIA | 5 |
6 |
94 |
18.8 |
0 |
38 |
|
5. |
Antonio Brown | PIT | 7 |
13 |
128 |
18.3 |
1 |
37 |
Least valuable wide receiver or tight end | |||||||||
Rk |
Player |
Team |
Rec |
Att |
Yds |
Avg |
TD |
Total DYAR |
|
1. |
Marqise Lee | JAC | 2 |
8 |
8 |
4.0 |
0 |
-39 |
Comments
33 comments, Last at 31 Dec 2014, 3:38pm
#3 by Travis // Dec 29, 2014 - 2:00pm
Almost as good as LaDainian Tomlinson's final two games in 2003 to get to 100 catches - 6 catches (8 targets) for 8 yards, followed by 8 catches (15 targets!) for 17 yards.
That last game was particularly special; the last two plays of the Chargers' final non-kneeldown series were passes to Tomlinson for -4 and then, on 3rd and 23 maybe 10 yards out of game-clinching field-goal range, 6.
#12 by TomC // Dec 29, 2014 - 5:29pm
It was especially painful to hear Dick Stockton and Brady Quinn praising Forte to the skies as he continually failed to avoid tacklers on short passes and made the wrong cut on running plays. I like Forte a lot, and he has certainly had a productive year, but he was terrible yesterday, and (surprise) the Fox z-team didn't seem to notice.
#15 by dbostedo // Dec 29, 2014 - 6:15pm
I always wonder if they really didn't notice, or just can't say.
I like to imagine their commercial break talk is stuff like :
BQ : Many Forte's catches have been pretty worthless today.
DS : Yeah, but he's had so many, and we should pump the record.
====Back from break====
DS : And we're back in Minneapolis where Matt Forte is having a big game, as he's done all year.
#16 by Steve in WI // Dec 29, 2014 - 6:20pm
I really don't know what's wrong with Forte...whether his age is catching up with him, whether he's making poor decisions at the line, whether he's been a victim of the Bears' inability to pass the ball downfield, or what. And certainly, I think he's arguably the hardest-working, most professional guy on that offense right now. But regardless of the traditional stats he's piled up, he sure hasn't looked impressive this season.
#30 by TomC // Dec 30, 2014 - 3:13pm
Oh the OL undoubtedly has regressed, but on Sunday I saw several plays in which the hole was there and Forte didn't see it or mistakenly thought he could do more with a cutback. (Disclaimer: I am no Ben Muth, so it's possible I was seeing phantom holes.)
#32 by ZDNeal // Dec 31, 2014 - 3:08pm
If a running back is consistently thrown to in bad situations (where the best option would be to drop the pass) what's the best way for him to maximize DYAR in those situations, drop or catch and hope to make it back to the LoS?
#33 by Vincent Verhei // Dec 31, 2014 - 3:38pm
A dropped pass would still be an incomplete target, which would hurt his DYAR. So the only reason (for DYAR) that intentionally dropping a pass would ever be a good idea is if the RB was well behind the line of scrimmage and surrounded by defenders, and guaranteed to lose yards on a catch.
#31 by Vincent Verhei // Dec 30, 2014 - 5:21pm
Finally had time to answer this:
So where was Eddie Lacy for rushers?
Not among the top 20 running backs. He had 8 DYAR rushing, 7 receiving, 15 total. 100 yards isn't a very good day when it takes you 26 carries to get there, even against a great run defense like Detroit. Lacy only had two 10-yard runs, and just one other first down, but he was hit for no gain or a loss five times, once on fourth-and-1, and he also had a fumble. The fumble was worth -11 DYAR; the failed fourth-and-1, -8. It’s hard to have a good day when 18 of your 26 runs gain 3 yards or less.
He also caught 3 of 4 passes for 26 total yards and two first downs.
#9 by Led // Dec 29, 2014 - 4:06pm
What, if anything, does Geno Smith's week 17 performance mean? A breakthrough, or just fools gold? I'm going with the latter.
The following guys have had perfect 158.3 passer rating (min 20 attempts) in addition to the usual suspects (Manning, Warner, Brady, Roethlisberger, Brees): Alex Smith (2013), Nick Foles (2013), Donovan McNabb (2007), Kerry Collins (2002), Doug Flutie (2000), Jeff Blake (1995), Davie Krieg (1995), Craig Erickson (1994). The inclusion of Erickson on that list proves that pure flukes do happen, but everybody else had at least a decent NFL career (if barely, in the case of Blake) with Foles still TBD. I think Geno is somewhere in the Erickson to Blake range, and he'll have a career post-2014 as a backup/spot starter if he is lucky. I suppose there's still a small chance he could turn into a decent starter, but I wouldn't bet on it.
#11 by RickD // Dec 29, 2014 - 5:06pm
Geno's college career was like that. He'd have games where he threw for several TDs and looked brilliant. And a few weeks later he'd have several INTs and looked awful. I would take any Week 17 performance with a huge grain of salt. It was a meaningless game for both teams, and I think the Dolphins were demoralized by how badly their season turned out after a promising start.
#13 by TomC // Dec 29, 2014 - 5:34pm
I would take any Week 17 performance with a huge grain of salt.
Yes, especially if it's an obvious outlier compared to the rest of a guy's season or career. I remember a game in 1998 when an undrafted rookie RB (James Allen) for a terrible Bears team gained >150 yards on 20-ish carries against an equally terrible Ravens team that was trying to get their coach (Ted Marchibroda) fired. Dave Wannstedt loved what he saw, and Allen started for the Bears for a couple of years (averaging about 3.5 yards a carry).
#10 by Biebs // Dec 29, 2014 - 4:47pm
Geno will have a chance to win the 2015 Jets starting job. My feeling is that Mariotta/Winston will go in the top 3, or they will drop a bunch. I just don't see the Jets taking either. Guys like Locker, Ponder, Gabbert, and Hoyer will be out there (along with Vick), and I could see the Jets (among other teams) taking a shot on those guys. But, as bad as Geno has been, I don't see any of them coming in as the automatic #1 starter over Geno Smith.
Ryan Fitzpatrick had a game with 250+ passing DYAR. So, one great game by Geno doesn't exactly sell me on much.
#22 by JoeyHarringtonsPiano // Dec 30, 2014 - 9:42am
Well not really, because:
1)The Packers have a pretty good pass defense, so there is some opponent adjustment that helps him.
2)He had a couple very successful scrambles (accounts for 14 of his 40 DYAR).
3)He had no turnovers
4)He led 3 TD drives and three 3 TD passes (yes, one was in garbage time, but for predictive purposes that counts the same)
5)Remember that DYAR is an accumulation stat, not a rate stat like DVOA. So all you need for positive DYAR is a lot of plays without any major screwups. Stafford had like 45 dropbacks, so only getting +40 DYAR when you had no turnovers and only gave up 2 sacks is not very impressive. The fact he was 11th suggests it was a terrible week for quarterbacks, not that the system is broken.
#19 by OldFox // Dec 29, 2014 - 10:24pm
Interesting that Connor Shaw's performance at Baltimore earned him the #28 slot in DYAR for Week 17, putting him ahead of Ryan, Bortles, Hill, Carr, RG3 and Whitehurst. I'm a Browns fan and I was curious to see Shaw in action. I came away mostly disappointed; my assessment was that he was a smart, gritty kid, but that he just didn't have a good enough arm to ever make it in the NFL. The Cleveland media people surprised me by praising his performance, but I kind of wrote that off, figuring that they were mainly praising Shaw as a way of tweaking Manziel, whom they despise. However, DYAR is also a bit kinder to Shaw than I expected, so now I'm starting to think that I judged him too harshly. I'd be curious to hear what others on this site have to say after his performance. I still don't think he's got enough of an arm to be given serious consideration as a starting quarterback, but then again, I'm no expert.
#20 by Hurt Bones // Dec 30, 2014 - 8:25am
Spunk!. The kid has spunk. Making a note to myself work spunk into conversation more often. Honestly 28th isn’t that great regardless of who he’s above. Plus this is the first time anyone has seen him. What kind of film did the Ravens get see of Connor. The next time if there is a next time, the next opponent will review this performance and he probably won’t even do this well, but the kid does have spunk.
#21 by JimZipCode // Dec 30, 2014 - 9:41am
Ravens fan here: I thought Shaw made decent decisions under pressure, but had an absolute noodle arm. I completely agree with your assessment that he doesn't have enough arm to make it as a starter. Probably smart & gritty, but can't really threaten defenses.
Can arm strength be improved?
#24 by ChrisS // Dec 30, 2014 - 10:10am
Rodgers was pretty darn effecient/effective with his Dyar almost the same as his yards. Geno's dyar is a litle bettered than 50% and Flacco is a little worse than 50%. I am sure the adjustment helps Rodgers a lot but still a heck of a game.
#25 by Thomas_beardown // Dec 30, 2014 - 11:56am
Unless he gets hurt or his effectiveness drops like a rock, Matt Forte is almost assuredly going to pass Walter Payton for most receptions in Chicago Bears history. Probably next year.
And people say they haven't joined the 21st century passing trend.